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May 05, 2016, 05:17:39 AM
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I have a computer store near me some know it but this will be included world wide shipping is included in the US. I can grab cards and get overclocking coverage just walk in and get an exchange for it.

Right now I have the R9 390 8gb Gigabyte card with a 3 year overclock protection warranty they offer 2 years as well let me know if your interested if you are obviously you would have to send it to me to take back in to get the exchange.

Let me know what model ect and I'd give you the price again just gauging interest escrow as always but buyer pays shipping.
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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.


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May 05, 2016, 06:53:21 AM
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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

Also some people in the US will know the store that I am talking about as they will have one near them.
So please don't post the store as most places don't have then and I am offering this as so called distributor.

Just do the same and be competitive. Also receipt will also be available as proof of it was paid for the only thing is the name will be hidden for the store as like I said not everyone has one and I don't want people musceling in.. Smiley
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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.


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May 05, 2016, 07:12:20 AM
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What would be your shipping estimate for international shoppers?

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What would be your shipping estimate for international shoppers?
Depends on location there is a small premium for me having to do the leg work if I have to return it then re-ship it (This is included in the Full Price) except the re-shipment fees.

Let me know what your looking for where your at then I can throw you a cost most places should be fine to ship from the US.

If it saves money can add on packaging that it's broken or some sort like that so your duties would be less I know some places are like that.
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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.
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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.
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May 05, 2016, 09:09:30 PM
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The store is going to let you get away with this?  Huh

After a bunch of returns they will start to give you the stink eye..

Go Big or Go Home.
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May 06, 2016, 01:16:26 PM
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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..
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May 06, 2016, 01:25:14 PM
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Also just to let you know this does not just go for one or 2 this could be for 100 if you wanted and all can just be walked in and swapped receipts and escrow as always..
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May 06, 2016, 02:22:56 PM
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What would your price be roughly for say shipping a GPU to Asia Pacific?

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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..

Maybe one of the companies has an issue with flashing the bios, but nope. Considering the GPU itself changes its clock a lot...

I *think* you are getting ripped off by gimmicks by that shop, OP.

I did not check the ToU of Gigabyte but i have not had a problem with them and i have lots of Gigabyte GPU. Meanwhile MSI and EVGA has no problem with it.

Here is EVGA FAQ;
"http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=55"


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May 06, 2016, 07:40:35 PM
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You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

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Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.
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You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

**snip**

Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.
Wow ok so when you let's say Radeon settings and you overclock it to whatever let's say 1200/1600.

You have it set right so when you turn it off and turn it back on the settings are still the same correct it does not reset it on you so sorry to burst your bubble it is setup to save your previous settings.

I hate when people write things and yet do not know what they are talking about.
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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..

Maybe one of the companies has an issue with flashing the bios, but nope. Considering the GPU itself changes its clock a lot...

I *think* you are getting ripped off by gimmicks by that shop, OP.

I did not check the ToU of Gigabyte but i have not had a problem with them and i have lots of Gigabyte GPU. Meanwhile MSI and EVGA has no problem with it.

Here is EVGA FAQ;
"http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=55"
This says no physical damage as if you overclock certain thinks can melt witch my warranty covers all of that there is no limitations you can flash a new bios and try maxing it completely out and it can be replaced. They take them and they plug it in reading previous settings then look for and melted obvious parts that are destroyed.

Why not ask evga if you flash a new bios and you can't flash it back if it's covered. Also ask them if there are any melted parts if that's covered. Evga is a really good company and usually fixes most things but send 20 of them back at once see what happens.

I'm just speaking on past experiences.

Also hrs evgas link and read down bottom for what they will not cover just like I stated.

http://www.evga.com/support/warranty/graphics-cards/
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What would your price be roughly for say shipping a GPU to Asia Pacific?
I would need a better Idea of country and such but looks like around 50$ could be less just the average I punched in.
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I'm sorry. What are you offering? Those come with 3 years warranty.
Correct they come with the 3 year manufacturing warranty the computer store I go to offers a in house 3 year warranty that covers overclocking so you can run them max and if anything happens to it you walk into the store with the receipt and get a replacement.

Manufacturers warranty does not cover this.

I hope this clarified.

I now understand what you mean. Uhh. I don't know what company you've dealt with but i have had 0 problem in RMA'ing dead gpus that were pushed past the limit OC'ing. I dont think there is a way to tell anyways, its not like there is a seal on the bios with hard locked settings. They even have OC profiles on the different bioses and OC software.

Anyways, this is my opinion, i don't think you will hit here with this.

Regardless of what I think. If you want to offer this as a service, you'll have to post in the service section.
This is wrong most places don't always give you a hard time but if you keep sending multiple back you can see it due to the settings of what you have done with it is in the memory just like a hard drive.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of computer storage mediums if you think that's true. DRAM is volatile (hence the "dynamic" in the name). Hard drives use spinning magnetic disks to semi-permanently hold data. Additionally, the medium typically used for device BIOS is typically of a Read-only type, or an EEProm variant which still has a relatively complicated write process and a maximum number of writes. So suffice to say there is practically no way for a device manufacturer to track your usage.

You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

Also dreamer yea they do there own in house you pay a decent price for it but they have the much better return to the original manufacturer since they are bulk buying from them.

I buy a new card when they come out and return it in 30 days if I don't like it and I get a full refund. It's a great store and the only large computer store that I've ever seen. (Computer Store) just if anyone try's to say best buy lol..

Maybe one of the companies has an issue with flashing the bios, but nope. Considering the GPU itself changes its clock a lot...

I *think* you are getting ripped off by gimmicks by that shop, OP.

I did not check the ToU of Gigabyte but i have not had a problem with them and i have lots of Gigabyte GPU. Meanwhile MSI and EVGA has no problem with it.

Here is EVGA FAQ;
"http://www.evga.com/support/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=55"
This says no physical damage as if you overclock certain thinks can melt witch my warranty covers all of that there is no limitations you can flash a new bios and try maxing it completely out and it can be replaced. They take them and they plug it in reading previous settings then look for and melted obvious parts that are destroyed.

Why not ask evga if you flash a new bios and you can't flash it back if it's covered. Also ask them if there are any melted parts if that's covered. Evga is a really good company and usually fixes most things but send 20 of them back at once see what happens.

I'm just speaking on past experiences.

Also hrs evgas link and read down bottom for what they will not cover just like I stated.

http://www.evga.com/support/warranty/graphics-cards/

VRM burning out is covered. Sometimes components fails while not overclocked you know? You seem to be pretty stubborn, did you miss the official EVGA stance about overclock that i linked you?

We're not talking about running the GPU at 1.75V and overclocking mem to 2250hz here. Overclock at stock voltage is A-OK. You would not be able to tell anyways.

I doubt they would check anyways but the only thing i could see is if they checked the modded bios and saw a crazy overvoltage or something.


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May 07, 2016, 12:47:02 AM
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You misunderstood me as it seems I did not say that they will know what you did everyday but if the last couple of changes on the card where from you overvolting/ overclocking then yes they can refuse it.

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Sorry to burst your bubble here, but unless you flash the BIOS to do your overclocking (which is a pretty obtuse way of doing it considering how many free overclocking/overvolting software tools are available), then they have no way to see what you've been doing. There are very few non-volatile memory chips on a graphics card, and they are all used for boot-up and initialization processes.

This is even more true when you consider what it is we're talking about happening. You're trying to say that in the micro-seconds prior to your card dying (in some way, be it gpu-die, memory-die, or power-supplying hardware related), the device just saves the previous settings and then kicks the bucket? I'm sorry, but paying for an "overclocking" warranty sounds to me like being taken for a ride. It might be quicker for you to walk in and swap the card out, but the speed of hardware replacement is all you're paying for.
Wow ok so when you let's say Radeon settings and you overclock it to whatever let's say 1200/1600.

You have it set right so when you turn it off and turn it back on the settings are still the same correct it does not reset it on you so sorry to burst your bubble it is setup to save your previous settings.

I hate when people write things and yet do not know what they are talking about.

The clocks are the same when you boot back up because the overclocking tool sets them to your defined setting after you log in. If you set clocks using software and then pull the card out and put it in a different computer, the clocks are back to the stock clocks described in the card's BIOS. I'm getting my masters in computer engineering, so I actually do know what I'm talking about. Spend more than 3 minutes researching this topic and maybe, just maybe, you'll have the "Aha!" moment and realize you have no clue what you're talking about.
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May 07, 2016, 04:44:36 AM
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The clocks are the same when you boot back up because the overclocking tool sets them to your defined setting after you log in. If you set clocks using software and then pull the card out and put it in a different computer, the clocks are back to the stock clocks described in the card's BIOS. I'm getting my masters in computer engineering, so I actually do know what I'm talking about. Spend more than 3 minutes researching this topic and maybe, just maybe, you'll have the "Aha!" moment and realize you have no clue what you're talking about.

Yeah this guy is right. Unless you modify the GPU settings in BIOS, after you overclock or whatever you do to the card, remove it and put it in a different PC, the cards uses the factory settings as the overclocks are set in the software on the previous PC and not saved into the GPU.

All my cards I'ever worked with or used are / were like this.

Cool about your store letting you swap with no questions asked. I know the store you're talking about (I think) .
Good luck with your endevour.

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