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Economy => Trading Discussion => Topic started by: BitcoinLoan on May 09, 2016, 03:19:25 AM



Title: Loan for trading?
Post by: BitcoinLoan on May 09, 2016, 03:19:25 AM
I would like to know if there are people who borrow Bitcoin, or want to borrow Bitcoin for trade?


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Arrakeen on May 09, 2016, 03:52:55 AM
I've been looking for a place to start this - I'd like to generate some trust as escrow, and/or start buying/selling BTC in order to gain some trust around here!


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: BitLoans on May 09, 2016, 03:58:50 AM
I give loans if you have collateral.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Arrakeen on May 09, 2016, 04:02:46 AM
I give loans if you have collateral.

I'm new to the whole lending and loaning thing (only because I've never needed to do either).  What sort of stuff qualifies as collateral?  I know accounts can be used, but are they just valued first at that price estimator?  What have you held as collateral before, and for what amount(s) of BTC?

Thanks in advance for the help :)


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: yenxz on May 09, 2016, 07:04:56 AM
I would like to know if there are people who borrow Bitcoin, or want to borrow Bitcoin for trade?
of course so many people loan bitcoin,you can check it on lending section,and i think loan bitcoin for trading is good if you pro trader and can make profit in every trade,but if you still learn and newbie in trading,don try it,or you will have trouble to pay your loan.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Amph on May 09, 2016, 07:40:58 AM
I give loans if you have collateral.

and what are your interest on that loan? how much someone need to give you back as a % in addition to the loan itself?


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: crossabdd on May 09, 2016, 04:30:18 PM
I would like to know if there are people who borrow Bitcoin, or want to borrow Bitcoin for trade?

of course many who borrow bitcoin, you can look at the lending section. even poloniex trading sites, they provide loans for trade.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 09, 2016, 04:36:17 PM
For me loans for trading is dangerous, it will make emotion out of control and become lost on trading.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 09, 2016, 05:00:37 PM
I've been looking for a place to start this - I'd like to generate some trust as escrow, and/or start buying/selling BTC in order to gain some trust around here!
You're not trusted at present sono one on their right mind is going to use you as an escrow.  Maybe when you're a hero member with green trust from trades and so forth. 

Also, does no one here do any reading before asking about stuff like collateral?   It's all been discussed before and there are stickies in the lending section.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: European Central Bank on May 10, 2016, 01:24:30 AM
Trading itself is one hell of a gamble. Borrowing off someone else to do it? That takes things to a whole new level of insanity.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Doms on May 10, 2016, 04:59:16 AM
Trading itself is one hell of a gamble. Borrowing off someone else to do it? That takes things to a whole new level of insanity.

Agreed. In investments what they say is, invest only that which you can afford to lose. It's not wise to loan for something which you intend to use for gambling, moreso if you have no previous experience of gambling and using loaned money to fund it. That's gonna cause a lot of headaches down the road.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on May 10, 2016, 05:04:20 AM
I would like to know if there are people who borrow Bitcoin, or want to borrow Bitcoin for trade?
If you lost in trading how are you going to repay the money you borrowed for trading? That's a big risk for the lender but if there will be a collateral at least the lender will have something to liquidate when borrower can pay anymore. Anything that will happen in the future like salary in the next few days, payment for a service in the next few days are not considered as a guarantee and connot be used as a collateral.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: GregH37 on May 10, 2016, 02:36:35 PM
I don't like the Idea honestly. loan for trading may jam your work. for example if you get a loan of 0.2BTC for altcoin trading. and you buy etherium for that money.. there is also chance of losing but I just avoid that here. so if we sell these etherium for 0.22 btc. our profit will be 0.02btc. and we have to repay 0.022(with interest). so basically loan for trading will give you nothing.
just gain some money from some where to invest in trading.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: mrhelpful on May 10, 2016, 08:28:29 PM
Dont expect anyone to loan you this deal, unless the lender see a reputation you built overtime or something.

But a indiviual loan is hard as it is, if you dont have some collateral to work with.. you should just ask for a friend in real life or something.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Arrakeen on May 11, 2016, 03:46:20 AM
I've been looking for a place to start this - I'd like to generate some trust as escrow, and/or start buying/selling BTC in order to gain some trust around here!
You're not trusted at present sono one on their right mind is going to use you as an escrow.  Maybe when you're a hero member with green trust from trades and so forth. 


That's what I mean, just because I'm a hero member doesn't make me appear any more trustworthy & it's not like I'll get green trust if I never make any successful trades due to lack thereof.  This is like trying to land an entry-level job, where every job requires ten years of experience in the field.  How are you going to get experience when everyone's asking for it already :\


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Herbert2020 on May 11, 2016, 07:16:33 AM
I would like to know if there are people who borrow Bitcoin, or want to borrow Bitcoin for trade?

yeah, of course there are many people interested in giving loans and taking loans to do all sorts of things and one of them is trading. you can do that in the lending section of the forum (lend or borrow) as long as you can provide a valid collateral.
also there are some exchangers like bitfinex and poloniex that has the loan section.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: alyssa85 on May 11, 2016, 07:03:19 PM
I would like to know if there are people who borrow Bitcoin, or want to borrow Bitcoin for trade?

Why don't you lend on Poloniex? Many of the margin traders borrow to do their trades. On the other side are people lending. It is quite a safe platform, so it is probably easier to do it there than negotiating individually with people who want to borrow.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: BitcoinLoan on May 12, 2016, 03:31:49 PM
I see more statements that people borrow money to trade. Is there anyone who actually did it? And he succeeded to repay as planned?

What was the amount, time, collateral?


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: bitmarket.net on May 12, 2016, 05:07:12 PM
Perhaps you should consider one of the exchanges offering the margin trading ?
In effect, trading on margin is borrowing bitcoins or fiat (depending on whether you buy or sell) from other people.

The exchanges are handling the borrowing and collateral process.

There are a few exchanges with margin trading, including bitmarket.net  :)


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: BitcoinLoan on May 12, 2016, 05:21:16 PM
Perhaps you should consider one of the exchanges offering the margin trading ?
In effect, trading on margin is borrowing bitcoins or fiat (depending on whether you buy or sell) from other people.

The exchanges are handling the borrowing and collateral process.

There are a few exchanges with margin trading, including bitmarket.net  :)

What about lenders - is there option to invest on your exchange? If so, what are the rates?
To be honest, lending via exchange brings risk of third part.. ;)


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: bitmarket.net on May 12, 2016, 05:26:15 PM
Perhaps you should consider one of the exchanges offering the margin trading ?
In effect, trading on margin is borrowing bitcoins or fiat (depending on whether you buy or sell) from other people.

The exchanges are handling the borrowing and collateral process.

There are a few exchanges with margin trading, including bitmarket.net  :)

What about lenders - is there option to invest on your exchange? If so, what are the rates?
To be honest, lending via exchange brings risk of third part.. ;)

Yes, you can lend bitcoins to other traders through Bitmarket.net.
It is called swaps: https://www.bitmarket.net/swap.php?currency=BTC

The rate is determined by the market - the supply and demand for loans at any given time.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: BitcoinLoan on May 12, 2016, 05:30:13 PM
Perhaps you should consider one of the exchanges offering the margin trading ?
In effect, trading on margin is borrowing bitcoins or fiat (depending on whether you buy or sell) from other people.

The exchanges are handling the borrowing and collateral process.

There are a few exchanges with margin trading, including bitmarket.net  :)

What about lenders - is there option to invest on your exchange? If so, what are the rates?
To be honest, lending via exchange brings risk of third part.. ;)

Yes, you can lend bitcoins to other traders through Bitmarket.net.
It is called swaps: https://www.bitmarket.net/swap.php?currency=BTC

The rate is determined by the market - the supply and demand for loans at any given time.

Thanks for all info.

Suppy and demand market is very fair. Definitely i will look into more closely.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: MWesterweele on June 04, 2016, 01:01:21 AM
I think there are some there that is using loans to start up on trading and other stuff.Because maybe they have nothing to start with thats why they get loans to startup on trading.Well for me thats a good decision for them as long as the coin that they will be trading in will not drop and earn atleast 40% of their loan and pay the loan for the interest to be not too big.Thats a good decision for traders who want to start up but have nothing as long as they will pay


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: bitkilo on June 04, 2016, 01:14:42 AM
Dont expect anyone to loan you this deal, unless the lender see a reputation you built overtime or something.

But a indiviual loan is hard as it is, if you dont have some collateral to work with.. you should just ask for a friend in real life or something.
What deal are you talking about?
Did you even read any of the posts in this thread?

OP is not looking to take a loan, he actually wants to start loaning coins himself.

@OP, If you want to start lending then simply create another thread advertising your business,  check out some of the other lenders threads to get an idea of how it's done here.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Bitcoinbee on June 04, 2016, 06:25:01 AM
I see more statements that people borrow money to trade. Is there anyone who actually did it? And he succeeded to repay as planned?

What was the amount, time, collateral?


Loan for trading purposes would be better to start with using the local currency and buying bitcoin which is far more better or if you have something over the net that is of great value and can be used to probably to make loans it would be possible.  But most of such loans need proper formal documenting to support both claims in the near future if ever it would be needed.  Loan amount depends on the assessment of the collateral's value 


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: wintermeasures on June 04, 2016, 11:22:29 AM
I would like to know if there are people who borrow Bitcoin, or want to borrow Bitcoin for trade?

I think borrow to trading is very risky because we do not know the market movement will come. Because if we want the price is not reached even our loss then we will find it hard to return the money. And keep in mind, trade with money that could be lost're ready. thank you


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Superbitzz on June 04, 2016, 03:02:49 PM
i think its not good to take load for trading. i have never seen a person who is ready to give load for trading. and if there is such kind of person who will certainly claim a huge interest on it.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Bitcoinbee on June 04, 2016, 03:55:45 PM
i think its not good to take load for trading. i have never seen a person who is ready to give load for trading. and if there is such kind of person who will certainly claim a huge interest on it.


I am just a little confused the "d" key and the "n" key are not next to the other.  So I think that is really "load", Is there something that I had missed out?  so how it is gonna be not good?  


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: sempak on June 04, 2016, 04:41:44 PM
many . many people are in need of it. if you intend to look for then you will get a hefty fee. use escrow to ensure your transactions.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: BitcoinLoan on June 04, 2016, 09:39:01 PM

@OP, If you want to start lending then simply create another thread advertising your business,  check out some of the other lenders threads to get an idea of how it's done here.

Thanks for understanding and advice ;)

I'm still not ready to start with lending service (because of time and other project)

I open this thread to discuss about credit needs, to get some more informations about potential clients and so on.. and of course i'm watching lending sections very carefully ;)


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: TommyBitcoin on June 05, 2016, 04:12:07 AM
Have you checked out any of the bitcoin lending sites, like btcjam and loanbase?  You can be a lender or a borrower.

Lending can be tricky no matter where you do it, because there are so many scammers and people who don't know how to manage their money properly.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Superbitzz on June 05, 2016, 06:22:43 AM
many . many people are in need of it. if you intend to look for then you will get a hefty fee. use escrow to ensure your transactions.
what will escrow do in lending load. it is not an exchange. it is a one sided transection. i think escrow will not ready for such kind of exchange. its too risky.


Title: Re: Loan for trading?
Post by: Cyaren on June 05, 2016, 06:25:55 AM
I would like to know if there are people who borrow Bitcoin, or want to borrow Bitcoin for trade?

Personally I'd rather take out loans for personal uses like buying something or to fill in for some BTC needed in a purchase.

Keep in mind that if people want to take out a loan for trading, they can easily do so through margin trading, or through loans on poloniex and other major altcoin exchanges. Them asking you means they probably haven't got valid collateral. Always beware of that.