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Title: Brain Teaser [answer - page 2!]
Post by: deepceleron on February 28, 2013, 06:17:16 AM
Complete this sequence:

AKMNR ...


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: molecular on February 28, 2013, 06:45:45 AM
Complete this sequence:

AKMNR ...

FP

A  knowledgeable miner never reaps fiat profits.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 28, 2013, 07:23:40 AM
Complete this sequence:

AKMNR ...

Is it safe to assume it's a letter?

I'm guessing it's a renown list of sorts, with the letters representing the first letter of the word on the list.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: goxed on February 28, 2013, 09:46:50 AM
Anagram solver needed?


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: deepceleron on February 28, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
All the information needed to complete the sequence is contained within the letters, you don't need to Google anything, just use your noggin. There is more than one letter required to complete the sequence though. The 26 English alphabet letters are used, not a foreign language.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: CIYAM on February 28, 2013, 10:20:58 AM
...BDEI?


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: deepceleron on February 28, 2013, 10:27:42 AM
...BDEI?


how about BZZZZ! You can share your thinking about your wrong answer though. I'll give some time before I give another hint; this is a Mensa-style puzzle that came to me during the course of doing some work.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: CIYAM on February 28, 2013, 10:31:09 AM
how about BZZZZ! You can share your thinking about your wrong answer though. I'll give some time before I give another hint; this is a Mensa-style puzzle that came to me during the course of doing some work.

Yeah - guessed it wouldn't be that easy. :)

I looked at the idea of a repeating pattern so simply divided AKMNR into AKMN R and tried to repeat the AKMN pattern starting a R (wrapping around from Z back to A).


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: CIYAM on February 28, 2013, 10:35:00 AM
..SST?


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: deepceleron on February 28, 2013, 10:41:10 AM
..SST?


You're not getting any warmer...


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: CIYAM on February 28, 2013, 10:44:31 AM
You're not getting any warmer...

Damn - I could swear that your avatar just started laughing at me!


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: kentrolla on February 28, 2013, 10:49:26 AM
i give up. pm me the answer plz.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: CIYAM on February 28, 2013, 10:50:21 AM
...QOE?


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: totaleclipseofthebank on February 28, 2013, 11:09:54 AM
AKMNRUY


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: kentrolla on February 28, 2013, 12:02:23 PM
AKMNRO


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: deepceleron on February 28, 2013, 01:02:49 PM
Complete this sequence:

AKMNR ...

Sorry, no correct answers yet.  wah wah wah.

Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 28, 2013, 06:10:41 PM
Complete this sequence:

AKMNR ...

Sorry, no correct answers yet.  wah wah wah.

Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

I may not be able to solve it, but I'll happily contribute to crowdsourcing the solution.

Considering the latest clues, visualize from which one of the following is most logical.

akmnrb

akmnrc

akmnrd

akmnre

akmnrf

akmnrg

akmnrh

akmnri

akmnrj

akmnrl

akmnro

akmnrp

akmnrq

akmnrs

akmnrt

akmnru

akmnrv

akmnrw

akmnrx

akmnry

akmnrz

I excluded a, k, m, n, and r in the above list, but here they are in case the sequence has repeated letters, which I believe we can exclude nonetheless.

akmnra

akmnrk

akmnrm

akmnrn

akmnrr


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: Akka on February 28, 2013, 06:15:06 PM
ASICMINER with a spelling error?


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 28, 2013, 06:22:13 PM
ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: pinger on February 28, 2013, 06:27:49 PM
AKMNRBLN  ???


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on February 28, 2013, 06:43:10 PM
AKMNRBLN  ???

Might as well be UWXB then.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: deepceleron on February 28, 2013, 07:18:48 PM
ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: molecular on February 28, 2013, 10:17:33 PM
ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: totaleclipseofthebank on February 28, 2013, 10:29:10 PM
ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \


wait, but there are many lowercase letters with diagonals...


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 01, 2013, 01:58:17 AM
ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


The above negates the below:

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Hence showing the lower case letters. The diagonal route was where I was heading next, but nixed the idea after reading the above. I will be sad if the diagonal route proves to supply the answer.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: organofcorti on March 01, 2013, 02:13:28 AM
ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \


wait, but there are many lowercase letters with diagonals...

Molecular has a correct answer (might not be the one deepceleron wants) but it does fit with the hints. If it was lowercase the only clue would be "k".


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: deepceleron on March 01, 2013, 02:23:00 AM
AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \

That's right! You get the genius award! I considered VWXYZ to be the answer, but had noted VWXY would also be a correct answer based on the information available.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 01, 2013, 02:45:48 AM
AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \

That's right! You get the genius award! I considered VWXYZ to be the answer, but had noted VWXY would also be a correct answer based on the information available.

I call foul and should be rewarded the prize. BTW, what was the prize?  ::)

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Would you care to explain the above for me, for I read it as if all the letters were put in lower case, the solution would be easier to solve, hence putting all the letters in lower case to visualize a solution.

Now, if you had said: The answer would be more difficult if I used lower case letters...

Then we all would have continue the quest staring at upper case letters.

I demand a do-over or, at the very least, a new puzzle, after you apology, of course.  :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: organofcorti on March 01, 2013, 03:14:14 AM
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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!
Would you care to explain the above for me, for I read it as if all the letters were put in lower case, the solution would be easier to solve, hence putting all the letters in lower case to visualize a solution.
Quote
if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

The clue would be: "k", but the answer would be the same.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: deepceleron on March 01, 2013, 03:41:22 AM
That's right! You get the genius award! I considered VWXYZ to be the answer, but had noted VWXY would also be a correct answer based on the information available.

I call foul and should be rewarded the prize. BTW, what was the prize?  ::)


You get a critique of your signature, which says BTC = $c2. Assuming that $ is a place holder for an input value of X dollars, than the units of your answer would be:

bitcoins = X * 89875517873681764 dollars*meters2*seconds-2

I guess I didn't realize that dollars stored kinetic energy...


Title: Re: Brain Teaser
Post by: organofcorti on March 01, 2013, 03:57:18 AM
That's right! You get the genius award! I considered VWXYZ to be the answer, but had noted VWXY would also be a correct answer based on the information available.

I call foul and should be rewarded the prize. BTW, what was the prize?  ::)


You get a critique of your signature, which says BTC = $c2. Assuming that $ is a place holder for an input value of X dollars, than the units of your answer would be:

bitcoins = X * 89875517873681764 dollars*meters2*seconds-2

I guess I didn't realize that dollars stored kinetic energy...

That would be potential energy, and sure dollars store potential energy! Don't spend enough money on your house and it will fall down.


Title: Re: Brain Teaser [answer - page 2!]
Post by: deepceleron on March 01, 2013, 04:01:24 AM

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Would you care to explain the above for me, for I read it as if all the letters were put in lower case, the solution would be easier to solve, hence putting all the letters in lower case to visualize a solution.

Now, if you had said: The answer would be more difficult if I used lower case letters...

Then we all would have continue the quest staring at upper case letters.

Imagine the problem uses a magic black box that only outputs letters of a certain criteria:

letters ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> only letters that match criteria

So to make the puzzle, we put two sequences of inputs into the box:
letters A-R:  ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> clue sequence
letters S-Z:  ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> rest of sequence

When the criteria is "typography of letter includes a diagonal line", the outputs are:
letters A-R:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> clue:{A,K,M,N,R}
letters S-Z:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> answer:{V,W,X,Y,Z}


If the puzzle was created with lower-case letters however:
letters a-r:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> clue:{k}
letters s-z:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> answer:{v,w,x,y,z}


Using lower-case letters, it would be impossible to make a puzzle with the criteria "contains diagonal" that had
 A. a good enough unique answer, i.e., if I asked you to "complete the sequence {z,y,x,w,v}", how would you know the answer is {k}? or
 B. a non-obvious answer ("complete the sequence {k,v,w,x,y}")


Title: Re: Brain Teaser [answer - page 2!]
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 01, 2013, 04:29:25 AM

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Would you care to explain the above for me, for I read it as if all the letters were put in lower case, the solution would be easier to solve, hence putting all the letters in lower case to visualize a solution.

Now, if you had said: The answer would be more difficult if I used lower case letters...

Then we all would have continue the quest staring at upper case letters.

Imagine the problem uses a magic black box that only outputs letters of a certain criteria:

letters ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> only letters that match criteria

So to make the puzzle, we put two sequences of inputs into the box:
letters A-R:  ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> clue sequence
letters S-Z:  ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> rest of sequence

When the criteria is "typography of letter includes a diagonal line", the outputs are:
letters A-R:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> clue:{A,K,M,N,R}
letters S-Z:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> answer:{V,W,X,Y,Z}


If the puzzle was created with lower-case letters however:
letters a-r:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> clue:{k}
letters s-z:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> answer:{v,w,x,y,z}


Using lower-case letters, it would be impossible to make a puzzle with the criteria "contains diagonal" that had
 A. a good enough unique answer, i.e., if I asked you to "complete the sequence {z,y,x,w,v}", how would you know the answer is {k}? or
 B. a non-obvious answer ("complete the sequence {k,v,w,x,y}")

Look here dick-for-brains, for one us needs glasses...

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Note the key word there in yellow. What does it read? Different. Correct! What if I were to say that somebody misread that word as difficult? Would that then make his argument valid? Thought so! But the word is different and not difficult. So I ask you one more time: Which one of us needs glasses? BTW, you're not a dick-for-brains  ;D


Title: Re: Brain Teaser [answer - page 2!]
Post by: deepceleron on March 01, 2013, 04:53:31 AM
New challenge - get answer before Victoria Coren:

http://youtu.be/9wJwamFr6fE?t=34m5s


Title: Re: Brain Teaser [answer - page 2!]
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on March 01, 2013, 04:56:26 AM
New challenge - get answer before Victoria Coren:

http://youtu.be/9wJwamFr6fE?t=34m5s

I'm going to guess one, albeit in reverse order for it wasn't stipulated.

EDIT: Only off by a prime number multiplied by another prime number.