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February 28, 2013, 06:43:10 PM
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AKMNRBLN  Huh

Might as well be UWXB then.
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February 28, 2013, 07:18:48 PM
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ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
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February 28, 2013, 10:17:33 PM
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ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \

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February 28, 2013, 10:29:10 PM
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ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \


wait, but there are many lowercase letters with diagonals...

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March 01, 2013, 01:58:17 AM
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ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


The above negates the below:

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Hence showing the lower case letters. The diagonal route was where I was heading next, but nixed the idea after reading the above. I will be sad if the diagonal route proves to supply the answer.
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March 01, 2013, 02:13:28 AM
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ASICMINER with a spelling error?

That would be sic [sic] if that's the answer.

I'm looking at something different.

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z

You aren't going to solve it that way, what you should be looking at is:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z


AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \


wait, but there are many lowercase letters with diagonals...

Molecular has a correct answer (might not be the one deepceleron wants) but it does fit with the hints. If it was lowercase the only clue would be "k".

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March 01, 2013, 02:23:00 AM
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AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \

That's right! You get the genius award! I considered VWXYZ to be the answer, but had noted VWXY would also be a correct answer based on the information available.
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March 01, 2013, 02:45:48 AM
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AKMNRVWXYZ

everything that has something diagonal in it... it had to be something with the shapes because capitalization changed things.

I'm not sure about Z, could be only \ are trigger shapes, but not /. Z is the only one that doesn't have a \

That's right! You get the genius award! I considered VWXYZ to be the answer, but had noted VWXY would also be a correct answer based on the information available.

I call foul and should be rewarded the prize. BTW, what was the prize?  Roll Eyes

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Would you care to explain the above for me, for I read it as if all the letters were put in lower case, the solution would be easier to solve, hence putting all the letters in lower case to visualize a solution.

Now, if you had said: The answer would be more difficult if I used lower case letters...

Then we all would have continue the quest staring at upper case letters.

I demand a do-over or, at the very least, a new puzzle, after you apology, of course.  Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Angry Sad Shocked Cool Huh Roll Eyes Embarrassed Lips sealed Undecided Kiss Cry
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March 01, 2013, 03:14:14 AM
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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!
Would you care to explain the above for me, for I read it as if all the letters were put in lower case, the solution would be easier to solve, hence putting all the letters in lower case to visualize a solution.
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if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

The clue would be: "k", but the answer would be the same.

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March 01, 2013, 03:41:22 AM
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That's right! You get the genius award! I considered VWXYZ to be the answer, but had noted VWXY would also be a correct answer based on the information available.

I call foul and should be rewarded the prize. BTW, what was the prize?  Roll Eyes


You get a critique of your signature, which says BTC = $c2. Assuming that $ is a place holder for an input value of X dollars, than the units of your answer would be:

bitcoins = X * 89875517873681764 dollars*meters2*seconds-2

I guess I didn't realize that dollars stored kinetic energy...
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March 01, 2013, 03:57:18 AM
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That's right! You get the genius award! I considered VWXYZ to be the answer, but had noted VWXY would also be a correct answer based on the information available.

I call foul and should be rewarded the prize. BTW, what was the prize?  Roll Eyes


You get a critique of your signature, which says BTC = $c2. Assuming that $ is a place holder for an input value of X dollars, than the units of your answer would be:

bitcoins = X * 89875517873681764 dollars*meters2*seconds-2

I guess I didn't realize that dollars stored kinetic energy...

That would be potential energy, and sure dollars store potential energy! Don't spend enough money on your house and it will fall down.

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Would you care to explain the above for me, for I read it as if all the letters were put in lower case, the solution would be easier to solve, hence putting all the letters in lower case to visualize a solution.

Now, if you had said: The answer would be more difficult if I used lower case letters...

Then we all would have continue the quest staring at upper case letters.

Imagine the problem uses a magic black box that only outputs letters of a certain criteria:

letters ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> only letters that match criteria

So to make the puzzle, we put two sequences of inputs into the box:
letters A-R:  ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> clue sequence
letters S-Z:  ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> rest of sequence

When the criteria is "typography of letter includes a diagonal line", the outputs are:
letters A-R:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> clue:{A,K,M,N,R}
letters S-Z:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> answer:{V,W,X,Y,Z}


If the puzzle was created with lower-case letters however:
letters a-r:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> clue:{k}
letters s-z:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> answer:{v,w,x,y,z}


Using lower-case letters, it would be impossible to make a puzzle with the criteria "contains diagonal" that had
 A. a good enough unique answer, i.e., if I asked you to "complete the sequence {z,y,x,w,v}", how would you know the answer is {k}? or
 B. a non-obvious answer ("complete the sequence {k,v,w,x,y}")
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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Would you care to explain the above for me, for I read it as if all the letters were put in lower case, the solution would be easier to solve, hence putting all the letters in lower case to visualize a solution.

Now, if you had said: The answer would be more difficult if I used lower case letters...

Then we all would have continue the quest staring at upper case letters.

Imagine the problem uses a magic black box that only outputs letters of a certain criteria:

letters ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> only letters that match criteria

So to make the puzzle, we put two sequences of inputs into the box:
letters A-R:  ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> clue sequence
letters S-Z:  ----->[MAGIC BOX]----> rest of sequence

When the criteria is "typography of letter includes a diagonal line", the outputs are:
letters A-R:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> clue:{A,K,M,N,R}
letters S-Z:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> answer:{V,W,X,Y,Z}


If the puzzle was created with lower-case letters however:
letters a-r:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> clue:{k}
letters s-z:  ----->[contains diagonal?]----> answer:{v,w,x,y,z}


Using lower-case letters, it would be impossible to make a puzzle with the criteria "contains diagonal" that had
 A. a good enough unique answer, i.e., if I asked you to "complete the sequence {z,y,x,w,v}", how would you know the answer is {k}? or
 B. a non-obvious answer ("complete the sequence {k,v,w,x,y}")

Look here dick-for-brains, for one us needs glasses...

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Big Hint #2 - The answer wouldn't be different if I used lower case letters instead of upper case, but the clue would only be one letter!

Note the key word there in yellow. What does it read? Different. Correct! What if I were to say that somebody misread that word as difficult? Would that then make his argument valid? Thought so! But the word is different and not difficult. So I ask you one more time: Which one of us needs glasses? BTW, you're not a dick-for-brains  Grin
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March 01, 2013, 04:53:31 AM
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New challenge - get answer before Victoria Coren:

http://youtu.be/9wJwamFr6fE?t=34m5s
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March 01, 2013, 04:56:26 AM
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New challenge - get answer before Victoria Coren:

http://youtu.be/9wJwamFr6fE?t=34m5s

I'm going to guess one, albeit in reverse order for it wasn't stipulated.

EDIT: Only off by a prime number multiplied by another prime number.
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