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Title: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 18, 2016, 03:19:46 AM
So in all seriousness, does anyone actually believe that "HONCHO" is a physically separate entity from TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?  Personally, I think it is blatantly obvious that they are in fact one and the same.  Their writing styles are identical.  Their speech and grammatical usage is identical.  I also find it fairly implausible that anyone would give him money when he's been all talk and no action for years and his mental state is questionable at best.  Maybe in a state of mental flux, a split personality formed to escape from his own lunacy.  It could also be that he has taken a hostage and is forcing them to post on Bitcointalk under duress.  What do you think?


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: Sark on May 18, 2016, 03:22:30 AM
I don't think we really actually needed a poll for this  ::)


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: Yammity on May 18, 2016, 03:26:22 AM
I think something has been strange/off for months with this poster.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: rdnkjdi on May 18, 2016, 03:40:42 AM
Don't you think it's possible he's trying to retain plausible deniability while using his reputation to sell his project?


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: acdc on May 18, 2016, 04:21:19 AM
HONCHO=jl777 ?


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: tokeweed on May 18, 2016, 04:31:00 AM
HONCHO=jl777 ?

Ah...  So, HONCHO=Anoymint=TPTB_need_war=jl777=ComeFromBeyond=BCNext=Satoshi?

HOLY SHIT!


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: GetVisaCoin on May 18, 2016, 04:35:33 AM
Don't you think it's possible he's trying to retain plausible deniability while using his reputation to sell his project?

+1
The guy is no fool


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: Attack.of.the.Clones on May 18, 2016, 09:10:49 AM
So in all seriousness, does anyone actually believe that "HONCHO" is a physically separate entity from TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?  Personally, I think it is blatantly obvious that they are in fact one and the same.  Their writing styles are identical.  Their speech and grammatical usage is identical.  I also find it fairly implausible that anyone would give him money when he's been all talk and no action for years and his mental state is questionable at best.  Maybe in a state of mental flux, a split personality formed to escape from his own lunacy.  It could also be that he has taken a hostage and is forcing them to post on Bitcointalk under duress.  What do you think?

HONCHO looks to be a shared account between jl777 and TPTB. The first posts were James (while TPTB was sleeping), then TBTP took over and his writing style and personality became visible. Nothing wrong with a shared dev account


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 18, 2016, 09:28:00 AM
So in all seriousness, does anyone actually believe that "HONCHO" is a physically separate entity from TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?  Personally, I think it is blatantly obvious that they are in fact one and the same.  Their writing styles are identical.  Their speech and grammatical usage is identical.  I also find it fairly implausible that anyone would give him money when he's been all talk and no action for years and his mental state is questionable at best.  Maybe in a state of mental flux, a split personality formed to escape from his own lunacy.  It could also be that he has taken a hostage and is forcing them to post on Bitcointalk under duress.  What do you think?

HONCHO looks to be a shared account between jl777 and TPTB. The first posts were James (while TPTB was sleeping), then TBTP took over and his writing style and personality became visible. Nothing wrong with a shared dev account

Oh, this will be good then.  In case you don't know, jl777 is a nutcase too.  "James" (not his real name) got involved in crypto after his failed bid at the mayoral seat of San Diego.  He also used to claim that he had President Obama on speed dial.  This is the genius who commits gross acts of malfeasance when he gets upset.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: tokeweed on May 18, 2016, 10:37:46 AM

Get your wallets ready, folks!   :)



Are we giving away our coins?  Yay!  I love Christmas!


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: Hong Kong on May 18, 2016, 10:42:19 AM

Get your wallets ready, folks!   :)

https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_126291.jpg

smaragda, is that Crystal Meth on your avatar? :o Don't take that shit please, there's better stuff out there.



Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: tokeweed on May 18, 2016, 10:44:25 AM

Get your wallets ready, folks!   :)

https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_126291.jpg

smaragda, is that Crystal Meth on your avatar? :o Don't take that shit please, there's better stuff out there.



True.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: 2dogs on May 18, 2016, 11:21:59 AM
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Ah...  So, HONCHO=Anoymint=TPTB_need_war=jl777=ComeFromBeyond=BCNext=Satoshi?

HOLY SHIT!

Moar popcorn - moar!


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: Levole11 on May 18, 2016, 11:28:38 AM
Lol, ppl believing its not him, must be blind.. pretty fucking obvious.. His buddy smooth tried to some damage control for him, but tptb even fucked that up :)


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: noobtrader on May 18, 2016, 11:34:45 AM
TPTB sure know how to hype thing up  LOLLL   :D   



the drama, the insult and the breakthrough   :o :o :o
TPTB, pls inform us all humble earthling as we  will invest in your coin.     ;D


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: altcoinUK on May 18, 2016, 11:52:50 AM
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You succeeded in hoodwinking AnonyMint and destroying his reputation by convincing him that he would be on the successful side by speaking out against ICOs, premines, etc.. So that the former reputation that AnonyMint had became unusable when it was time to use it.

When I read this, that HONCHO says smooth has destroyed AnonyMint's reputation by hoodwinking (WTF) I understood that unfortunately HONCHO is a TPTB_need_war sockpuppet. Only the emotional and often  impulsive and sometimes hysterical TPTB_need_war says such melancholy nonsense which in the same time aggressive as well. God bless him, as I said we like him for many reasons, and I genuinely wish he be OK.

I told TPTB_need_war please start working with real people in real world crypto projects. I said to him, you need to be in a project and interacting with developers to unleash your potential instead of arguing in this forum. He said, no no, I want to work with the smartest, i.e. a person who is smarter than he is. Fair enough, but since fucking Einstein is dead, searching for the smartest than TPTB_need_war is an uphill task. So instead of working with anybody, he is go around in this forum by telling that he is the smartest. A bit bizarre as hmachado and others pointed out, but again, I wish I could help him to sort out his problems.

One thing is sure, if I am wrong and HONCHO is not TPTB_need_war sockpuppet, which I doubt very much, but lets assume the unlikely that HONCHO is not TPTB_need_war, then the issue is bigger. This HONCHO nick act even weirder than TPTB_need_war does so don't expect anything more than a drama from the HONCHO-TPTB_need_war partnership.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: altcoinUK on May 18, 2016, 12:00:22 PM
So in all seriousness, does anyone actually believe that "HONCHO" is a physically separate entity from TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?  Personally, I think it is blatantly obvious that they are in fact one and the same.  Their writing styles are identical.  Their speech and grammatical usage is identical.  I also find it fairly implausible that anyone would give him money when he's been all talk and no action for years and his mental state is questionable at best.  Maybe in a state of mental flux, a split personality formed to escape from his own lunacy.  It could also be that he has taken a hostage and is forcing them to post on Bitcointalk under duress.  What do you think?

HONCHO looks to be a shared account between jl777 and TPTB. The first posts were James (while TPTB was sleeping), then TBTP took over and his writing style and personality became visible. Nothing wrong with a shared dev account

Well, that's what I said to HONCHO, are you jl777, he has never denied it actually. Though, thinking about it a bit more, I think jl777 James, the chief scammer of NXT/Supernet/WAVES wouldn't bother with this, he doesn't have to - he collects so much money from the idiots in Supernet and WAVES that he is all right, he doesn't need this drama. So I concluded HONCHO = TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: acdc on May 19, 2016, 01:51:40 AM
HONCHO=jl777 ?

Ah...  So, HONCHO=Anoymint=TPTB_need_war=jl777=ComeFromBeyond=BCNext=Satoshi?

HOLY SHIT!

haha, what might that dev team raise in an IPO?

jl777 was always respectful of TPTB, and paid him a bounty at least once, so yeah, I think HONCHO just might be j777. That would be an impressive combo of devs with known decentralisation motivations. Probably wouldn't raise funds like 'the DAO', but would blow away LISK & WAVES. I can't see jl777 & TPTB ever being tempted to flurt with the 'business' oriented centralisation trend we now see.

Only problem would be further diluting - NXTVentures - InstantDEX - BTCD - SuperNET - crypto777 (plus other assets). If HONCHO is jl777 and had an ICO for a new TPTB coin, what happens to all the previous investors? Would they get a share? Just speculating ...


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 19, 2016, 05:51:32 AM
HONCHO=jl777 ?

Ah...  So, HONCHO=Anoymint=TPTB_need_war=jl777=ComeFromBeyond=BCNext=Satoshi?

HOLY SHIT!

haha, what might that dev team raise in an IPO?

jl777 was always respectful of TPTB, and paid him a bounty at least once, so yeah, I think HONCHO just might be j777. That would be an impressive combo of devs with known decentralisation motivations. Probably wouldn't raise funds like 'the DAO', but would blow away LISK & WAVES. I can't see jl777 & TPTB ever being tempted to flurt with the 'business' oriented centralisation trend we now see.

Only problem would be further diluting - NXTVentures - InstantDEX - BTCD - SuperNET - crypto777 (plus other assets). If HONCHO is jl777 and had an ICO for a new TPTB coin, what happens to all the previous investors? Would they get a share? Just speculating ...

Nobody is going to get anything.  If you were stupid / naive enough to give these bozos money, you're out of luck.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: bitfish on May 19, 2016, 10:48:27 AM

Get your wallets ready, folks!   :)



Buy moar organic oregano for our friend(s). Then they won't split so often.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: illodin on May 19, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
Buy moar organic oregano for our friend(s). Then they won't split so often.

Conservatism is moar for pansies. Real men go "all in" with oregano oil, great harlot jesus, and nano particle collodial silver.

I should mention that Jason Hommel suggested Oregano oil to me in the past years ago, but I thought he meant topically only.

Googling returns some interesting results:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi43sy2fG5M

https://www.google.com/search?q=Jason+Hommel+on+oregano+oil

https://www.google.com/search?q=Jason+Hommel+arrested

http://www.bibleprophesy.org/summary.html

I once dropped 4 droplets of oregano oil under my tongue and it burned so much that I wanted to strangle my dogs.

Luckily no wives nor kids were around at the time.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: acdc on May 19, 2016, 02:03:50 PM

When I read this, that HONCHO says smooth has destroyed AnonyMint's reputation by hoodwinking

Place one cup schizophrenic and two cups asperger's slydrome into a Pyrex bowl and stir.

Observe jl777 sailing concrete boats for his angel investment influencing a schizophrenic to assume his alter ego.

God and Satan fornicated and Bitcoin talk was born. Åmen.

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<---he made me do it--->
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           v


Are you suggesting jl777 influenced a mentally ill TPTB to post as HONCHO, to save his angel investment in supporting TPTB previously? Can you be a little less cryptic, that's a very big accusation to make against jl777. Are you joking?


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: rdnkjdi on May 19, 2016, 02:14:08 PM
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Oh, this will be good then.  In case you don't know, jl777 is a nutcase too.  "James" (not his real name) got involved in crypto after his failed bid at the mayoral seat of San Diego.  He also used to claim that he had President Obama on speed dial.  This is the genius who commits gross acts of malfeasance when he gets upset.

Any sources on this?  Sounds like great buttcoin fodder


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 20, 2016, 06:09:57 AM
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Oh, this will be good then.  In case you don't know, jl777 is a nutcase too.  "James" (not his real name) got involved in crypto after his failed bid at the mayoral seat of San Diego.  He also used to claim that he had President Obama on speed dial.  This is the genius who commits gross acts of malfeasance when he gets upset.

Any sources on this?  Sounds like great buttcoin fodder


I've known who "James" was for years.  I have his picture and full name.  I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but the last straw for me was when he used others' NXT to drive down the price, because of a miscommunication with Jean-Luc (NXT dev).  The NXT he listed for sale wasn't his personal NXT.  It was other peoples' NXT under his management.  When he did this, he was actively working against their best interests due to his inability to control his emotions and act rationally.  This is gross malfeasance.  Anyone who gives him money is either unaware of his mental state or extremely naive.

When "James" started in crypto, he created a convoluted insurance scheme in which he lost $10k USD of other peoples' money.  He was the laughing stock of everyone, because he would make ridiculous statements like having President Obama on speed dial.  Everyone got their entertainment from asking him questions and seeing what crazy response he would provide.  He also used to have a website promoting his run for the mayor of San Diego.  I don't know if it is still up, but it was hilarious.  If I provide his picture and name, you might be able to find some information about his past escapades.  Really though... do you need sources?  You can't make this stuff up.

Who wants the DOX?


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: KLONE on May 20, 2016, 07:22:44 AM
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Oh, this will be good then.  In case you don't know, jl777 is a nutcase too.  "James" (not his real name) got involved in crypto after his failed bid at the mayoral seat of San Diego.  He also used to claim that he had President Obama on speed dial.  This is the genius who commits gross acts of malfeasance when he gets upset.

Any sources on this?  Sounds like great buttcoin fodder


I've known who "James" was for years.  I have his picture and full name.  I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but the last straw for me was when he used others' NXT to drive down the price, because of a miscommunication with Jean-Luc (NXT dev).  The NXT he listed for sale wasn't his personal NXT.  It was other peoples' NXT under his management.  When he did this, he was actively working against their best interests due to his inability to control his emotions and act rationally.  This is gross malfeasance.  Anyone who gives him money is either unaware of his mental state or extremely naive.

When "James" started in crypto, he created a convoluted insurance scheme in which he lost $10k USD of other peoples' money.  He was the laughing stock of everyone, because he would make ridiculous statements like having President Obama on speed dial.  Everyone got their entertainment from asking him questions and seeing what crazy response he would provide.  He also used to have a website promoting his run for the mayor of San Diego.  I don't know if it is still up, but it was hilarious.  If I provide his picture and name, you might be able to find some information about his past escapades.  Really though... do you need sources?  You can't make this stuff up.

Who wants the DOX?

You haven't provided any sources, just innuendo and opinions.

PM the details you have and I'll confirm your information publicly, otherwise I say not true.

edit: jl777 is not the peercover guy (J. M.), I am certain of that. I think that's what you're trying to suggest


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: eca.sh on May 20, 2016, 08:01:08 AM
You haven't provided any sources, just innuendo and opinions.

PM the details you have and I'll confirm your information publicly, otherwise I say not true.

edit: jl777 is not the peercover guy (J. M.), I am certain of that. I think that's what you're trying to suggest

Please require he publish the details in public, because none of us should just trust you.

After reading that allegation yesterday, I contacted jl777 and he has denied the allegation. James wrote that many people have accused him of being many different people and none of the accusations have been correct. I do not know who to believe, but I do believe in the due process of innocent until proven guilty.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: NUFCrichard on May 20, 2016, 08:03:15 AM
Sorry, are Honcho, TPTB_Need_War or Anonymint altcoins?
If not, then why are there so many threads about them in the altcoin discussion forum?

Seems like it belongs in off-topic to me.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: KLONE on May 20, 2016, 08:43:05 AM
You haven't provided any sources, just innuendo and opinions.

PM the details you have and I'll confirm your information publicly, otherwise I say not true.

edit: jl777 is not the peercover guy (J. M.), I am certain of that. I think that's what you're trying to suggest

Please require he publish the details in public, because none of us should just trust you.

After reading that allegation yesterday, I contacted jl777 and he has denied the allegation. James wrote that many people have accused him of being many different people and none of the accusations have been correct. I do not know who to believe, but I do believe in the due process of innocent until proven guilty.

I withdraw my suggestion that DE send his DOX information on jl777 to me. I'm certain he thinks jl777 is the founder of the Ripple based insurance startup 'PeerCover', which I know is false. The PeerCover guy was active in Ripple at the same time as 2kewl4skool (aka DecentralizeEconomics).

So many animosities and hatreds in crypto, it's very disheartening

I just don't like people publishing other people's details for revenge.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 20, 2016, 09:21:01 AM
Well, that's what I said to HONCHO, are you jl777, he has never denied it actually. Though, thinking about it a bit more, I think jl777 James, the chief scammer of NXT/Supernet/WAVES wouldn't bother with this, he doesn't have to - he collects so much money from the idiots in Supernet and WAVES that he is all right, he doesn't need this drama. So I concluded HONCHO = TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint.

David didn't tell me that he had allowed you to post somewhere except Iota Unmoderated thread, hm...


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 21, 2016, 03:31:12 AM
I'm certain he thinks jl777 is the founder of the Ripple based insurance startup 'PeerCover', which I know is false.

Yeah, sure he isn't.   ::)


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: KLONE on May 21, 2016, 04:56:27 AM
I'm certain he thinks jl777 is the founder of the Ripple based insurance startup 'PeerCover', which I know is false.

Yeah, sure he isn't.   ::)

I'll bet you 25 btc jl777 is not Jared Mimms. We can use a recognised and trusted escrow.

I would love to take your money, and I bet you'd love to take mine.

If you're sure jl777="Jared Mimms" and you can prove that, take the bet.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: KLONE on May 21, 2016, 05:47:12 AM
I'm certain he thinks jl777 is the founder of the Ripple based insurance startup 'PeerCover', which I know is false.

Yeah, sure he isn't.   ::)

I'll bet you 25 btc jl777 is not Jared Mimms. We can use a recognised and trusted escrow.

I would love to take your money, and I bet you'd love to take mine.

If you're sure jl777="Jared Mimms" and you can prove that, take the bet.

How do you know? Do you know who jl777 is?

Here are jl777's Ripple forum posts - https://forum.ripple.com/search.php?author_id=11690&sr=posts

If you can scan them quickly you'll see that in December 2013 jl777 was trying to start and promote a ripple gateway issuing alt coin IOU's. You'll see that jl777 started discussing NXT, and was trying to use Ripple as a competitor to DGEX, which at the time was the only NXT exchange available. The Ripple mods didn't like jl777 'promoting' NXT, so they asked him to stop, so he left Ripple and moved to NXT.

The connection with Jared Mimms is PeerCover had already setup an automated gateway, and jl777 convinced them to start issuing NXT based IOU's through the PeerCover gateway. See below

Quote from: jl777
I have sparked some interest in the NXT community to use ripple via peercover. I have been invited to start a peercover thread to support ripple newbies, but I don't have the time to be able to handle each ripple newbie question.

Would anybody like to help me with this? I got over a dozen new ripplers in a day and there seems to be a fair amount of interest due to the few NXT exchanges having one problem or another.

With a little help, we can get people to see ripple as a cool solution.

James

https://forum.ripple.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5254&p=33283#p33192


During this time I used the PeerCover gateway to buy NXT, and needed PeerCover support on a few occaissions. I had communication with both Jared Mimms and jl777 during this time. They are two separate people. I shouldn't say too much more otherwise I wont get a chance to take 2kewl4skool's money

@2kewl4skool, take the bet, or are you backing down?


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 21, 2016, 07:17:02 AM
I'm certain he thinks jl777 is the founder of the Ripple based insurance startup 'PeerCover', which I know is false.

Yeah, sure he isn't.   ::)

I'll bet you 25 btc jl777 is not Jared Mimms. We can use a recognised and trusted escrow.

I would love to take your money, and I bet you'd love to take mine.

If you're sure jl777="Jared Mimms" and you can prove that, take the bet.

We both know that I cannot prove that jl777 is Jared Mimms and you cannot prove that he isn't.  Your bet is therefore pointless.  It is my opinion that they are one and the same, but I don't know this with 100% certainty.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: KLONE on May 21, 2016, 07:31:07 AM
I'm certain he thinks jl777 is the founder of the Ripple based insurance startup 'PeerCover', which I know is false.

Yeah, sure he isn't.   ::)

I'll bet you 25 btc jl777 is not Jared Mimms. We can use a recognised and trusted escrow.

I would love to take your money, and I bet you'd love to take mine.

If you're sure jl777="Jared Mimms" and you can prove that, take the bet.

We both know that I cannot prove that jl777 is Jared Mimms and you cannot prove that he isn't.  Your bet is therefore pointless.  It is my opinion that they are one and the same, but I don't know this with 100% certainty.

No, I can prove it, that's why I offered you a 25 btc bet with escrow. I am 100% certain jl777 is NOT Jared Mimms, and I think I can prove that.

Anyway, it's a mark against your character that you threatened to DOX someone on the basis of, "It is my opinion that they are one and the same, but I don't know this with 100% certainty." What if someone looking for jl777 went and found Jared Mimms at his home?

Shame on you!


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 22, 2016, 04:41:15 AM
I'm certain he thinks jl777 is the founder of the Ripple based insurance startup 'PeerCover', which I know is false.

Yeah, sure he isn't.   ::)

I'll bet you 25 btc jl777 is not Jared Mimms. We can use a recognised and trusted escrow.

I would love to take your money, and I bet you'd love to take mine.

If you're sure jl777="Jared Mimms" and you can prove that, take the bet.

We both know that I cannot prove that jl777 is Jared Mimms and you cannot prove that he isn't.  Your bet is therefore pointless.  It is my opinion that they are one and the same, but I don't know this with 100% certainty.

No, I can prove it, that's why I offered you a 25 btc bet with escrow. I am 100% certain jl777 is NOT Jared Mimms, and I think I can prove that.

Contradictory statement.  You can't prove it.

Anyway, it's a mark against your character that you threatened to DOX someone on the basis of, "It is my opinion that they are one and the same, but I don't know this with 100% certainty." What if someone looking for jl777 went and found Jared Mimms at his home?

Shame on you!

Well, I didn't DOX him.  You did.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: KLONE on May 22, 2016, 04:53:36 AM


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"Contradictory statement.  You can't prove it."

So take the 25 btc bet if you think I can't prove it, you can even pick the escrow.



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Well, I didn't DOX him.  You did.

You posted enough information for user Wind_FURY to identify Jared Mimms and post one of his letters. How many crypto entrepreneurs in the insurance startup business do you think ran for Mayor of San Diego? You posted enough information for a 5 yr old to identify Jared's name and address.

No, you're the DOX fiend around here. Shame on you, and you're a coward too!!

Take the bet coward!!!


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 22, 2016, 05:14:59 AM


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"Contradictory statement.  You can't prove it."

So take the 25 btc bet if you think I can't prove it, you can even pick the escrow.



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Well, I didn't DOX him.  You did.

You posted enough information for user Wind_FURY to identify Jared Mimms and post one of his letters. How many crypto entrepreneurs in the insurance startup business do you think ran for Mayor of San Diego? You posted enough information for a 5 yr old to identify Jared's name and address.

No, you're the DOX fiend around here. Shame on you, and you're a coward too!!

Take the bet coward!!!

I'm not taking your ridiculous bet which is impossible for either of us to win with 100% certainty.  Regardless, even if I could prove it with 100% certainty (which I can't), I'm opposed to gambling on moral grounds.

I never named Jared by name.  You did.  Granted though, when you act that crazy, I guess you're pretty easily identifiable.  You can claim whatever you want about me, but you can't say that I started some insurance scheme which violated Google's ToS resulting in a $10k loss, or that I committed malfeasance with other peoples' funds, because I can't control my emotions.  Like I said earlier, I always try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.  I think both Jared and JL777 (whether you think they are the same person or not) started with good intentions, but neither of them have decent business skills.  You can't act recklessly with other peoples' money and expect not to be called out on it.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: kjadB on May 22, 2016, 05:15:52 AM


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"Contradictory statement.  You can't prove it."

So take the 25 btc bet if you think I can't prove it, you can even pick the escrow.



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Well, I didn't DOX him.  You did.

You posted enough information for user Wind_FURY to identify Jared Mimms and post one of his letters. How many crypto entrepreneurs in the insurance startup business do you think ran for Mayor of San Diego? You posted enough information for a 5 yr old to identify Jared's name and address.

No, you're the DOX fiend around here. Shame on you, and you're a coward too!!

Take the bet coward!!!

DecentralizeEconomics is a supreme asshole for falsely linking J.M with jl777, but nobody can prove anything like this on an internet forum.

Sorry, not possible


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: KLONE on May 22, 2016, 05:22:22 AM

I never named Jared by name.  You did. 


Everyone can see that's a pathetic response. You clearly stated you were prepared to DOX jl777 and provided ample information to find Jared Mimms on google in 5 minutes. That's a fact!

Whatever you may think of jl777, it's obvious some people (good & bad) might want to find him in person one day, and you did everything you could to lead them to Jared Mimms. That makes you a scum bag imo.




Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: TheWarden on May 22, 2016, 06:45:47 AM
https://forum.ripple.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=15843
https://forum.ripple.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=16078
https://forum.ripple.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=16079

I am Twarden on the Ripple forums and XRPchat.com.  I had learned that he had attempted to form a corporation which would operate an umbrella of financial and non for profit projects using the Ripple software until presumably mental illness got the better of him.  He returned a while ago in regards to the above links, which garnered some sympathy because he was making wild claims, death threats, but then potential legitimate claims of intellectual property theft. 

Knowing that datz could be in any way associated with jl777 means that both alias have now gained sociopath status.  If you are monitoring this thread, then fk you Jared.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: Spoetnik on May 22, 2016, 07:21:41 AM
See how this shit is a joke to the outside world (that matters) ?
You all swirl around for YEARS on end pushing 1 scheme after another with a long line of
FAILED SCHEMES ..with all your "other" names attached to them.
Then push some more.. 101% completely fucking oblivious to the consequences of your actions / behavior.
Tunnel Vision ..on money making schemes. $$$

Not every idea you get should be a push for crowd funded investing for some digital token
to get listed on an exchange so you can profit then cash out to FIAT to put money in your bank
to buy Shelby's for drifitng..

Nope, some ideas are left as ideas or on test-net etc

When do you stop bickering about a wager for who is who and realize the people watching
are laughing and clamping down their wallet even tighter ?

The terminology you guys just finished using for that guys scheme screams fucking scam.
And apparently the only thing you are all interested here on this topic is your own inner
circle crypto nerd know it all circle jerk.

Hey how about some common sense ?
How long has Spoetnik been bashing you guys for using shitloads of account names here to push schemes ?
Years ?
What was i told every step of the way ? I was paranoid  ::)

Let's just side step this whole we need Anonymity and let's defend the right to post
schemes with new account names.. then we can bicker & speculate over who is who.
Sounds SMART right ?  :D

You are all like sleazy little money grubbing greedy scheming cowards darting around in the shadows.
Know who i kept thinking off reading this last page ?
Leroy Fodor with his fuck buddy Terrik (Mr. Wilterdink)

Talking to you all is pretty much pointless.
You want your puppy chow, you just don't give a flying fuck where the bag comes from.
Tunnel Vision ..oblivious to the Context / circumstances of the situation.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: KLONE on May 23, 2016, 09:16:02 PM
https://forum.ripple.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=15843
https://forum.ripple.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=16078
https://forum.ripple.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=16079

I am Twarden on the Ripple forums and XRPchat.com.  I had learned that he had attempted to form a corporation which would operate an umbrella of financial and non for profit projects using the Ripple software until presumably mental illness got the better of him.  He returned a while ago in regards to the above links, which garnered some sympathy because he was making wild claims, death threats, but then potential legitimate claims of intellectual property theft. 

Knowing that datz could be in any way associated with jl777 means that both alias have now gained sociopath status.  If you are monitoring this thread, then fk you Jared.

jl777 is not Jared! The last time they had anything to do with each other was Dec 2013 afaik.

The OP has axe to grind ... ignore him



Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: DecentralizeEconomics on May 24, 2016, 03:18:37 AM
I had learned that he had attempted to form a corporation which would operate an umbrella of financial and non for profit projects

Yeah, that totally doesn't sound like the same convoluted setup as the "SuperNet".

jl777 is not Jared! The last time they had anything to do with each other was Dec 2013 afaik.

The OP has axe to grind ... ignore him

Was that when the JL777 personality took over the body of Jared and killed off "Datz"?


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: datz on May 30, 2016, 01:46:13 AM

Was that when the JL777 personality took over the body of Jared and killed off "Datz"?

This isn't actually far from the truth. Jack Peterson and Vitalik Buterin double teamed me (https://forum.ripple.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16175). I hit the street level and was forced through the American mental health care system. I barely survived. I am not JL777 but I do know him.


Title: Re: Does anyone really believe that "HONCHO" isn't TPTB_Need_War/Anonymint?
Post by: datz on May 30, 2016, 02:01:12 AM

You haven't provided any sources, just innuendo and opinions.

PM the details you have and I'll confirm your information publicly, otherwise I say not true.

edit: jl777 is not the peercover guy (J. M.), I am certain of that. I think that's what you're trying to suggest

I'm currently a political prisoner. I'm battling Ethereum goons who left me uncompensated. Right now Andreas Antonopoulos is trying to take credit (http://www.coindesk.com/damned-dao-andreas-antonopoulos-third-key/) for the new Peercover deck (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2woz6rw00vu9s49/Peercover.pdf?dl=0). They keep shoving me out onto street level either as a martyr or scapegoat.