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Title: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: prettybuds on May 24, 2016, 04:40:57 PM why is r0ach so envious? for all those who still dont have it on ignore for the very low post quality:
I would really like to know what makes it so extremely jealous it claims that it's rich and doesn't care about money, women and technology but what is it that it cares about? Please enlighten the rest of us if you can see through its intentions. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 24, 2016, 04:48:09 PM why is r0ach so envious? for all those who still dont have it on ignore for the very low post quality: I would really like to know what makes him so envious. he claims that he's rich and doesn't care about money, women and technology but what is it that it cares about? Please enlighten the rest of us if you can see through its intentions. I heard he is from Latvia, so probably he cares about fishing. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 24, 2016, 04:48:25 PM Maybe he likes men.
And sure, if you have loads of money you don't have to obsess about getting more (though many rich folks do). Who knows about anyone on this forum. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: prettybuds on May 24, 2016, 04:49:01 PM I heard he is from Latvia, so probably he cares about fishing. oh! can't blame it, I like fishing too. Latvia is a beautiful country. has really nice national parks Maybe he likes men. And sure, if you have loads of money you don't have to obsess about getting more (though many rich folks do). Who knows about anyone on this forum. Interesting point of view! Thanks for posting the insight Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Laniakea on May 24, 2016, 04:54:21 PM why is r0ach so envious? for all those who still dont have it on ignore for the very low post quality: I would really like to know what makes it so extremely jealous it claims that it's rich and doesn't care about money, women and technology but what is it that it cares about? Please enlighten the rest of us if you can see through its intentions. pretty clear that "it's" just very frustrated, eh? Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: r0ach on May 24, 2016, 05:13:00 PM Nice sockpuppet accounts to hype IPO scams guys. Original poster registers in April 2016 and just mysteriously starts shilling IPO scamcoins straight out of the gate. That's obviously legit organic growth! No wrong doing to be seen here!
Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Laniakea on May 24, 2016, 05:15:20 PM Nice sockpuppet accounts to hype IPO scams guys. Original poster registers in April 2016 and just mysteriously starts shilling IPO scamcoins straight out of the gate. That's obviously legit organic growth! No wrong doing to be seen here! If he wants to hype innovation, can you stop him? You can't, you don't have any power :D Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 24, 2016, 05:19:48 PM Nice sockpuppet accounts to hype IPO scams guys. Original poster registers in April 2016 and just mysteriously starts shilling IPO scamcoins straight out of the gate. That's obviously legit organic growth! No wrong doing to be seen here! You should thank god that it's just a post. Judging by how easy you make enemies with your bullshit, odds that one day you'll find yourself in an unknown place drugged and wearing woman cloths are pretty high... Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Chef Ramsay on May 24, 2016, 05:40:44 PM Nice sockpuppet accounts to hype IPO scams guys. Original poster registers in April 2016 and just mysteriously starts shilling IPO scamcoins straight out of the gate. That's obviously legit organic growth! No wrong doing to be seen here! You should thank god that it's just a post. Judging by how easy you make enemies with your bullshit, odds that one day you'll find yourself in an unknown place drugged and wearing woman cloths are pretty high... Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 24, 2016, 05:42:30 PM Be that as it may, he does have a point here. Yep, just like a bird that helps to spread trees by shitting their seeds. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: bitcoin carpenter on May 24, 2016, 07:08:15 PM Im just amazed at how many of these projects get funded to the tune of millikns of dollars each. Sure it might pan out, but for how little tech is actually getting developed i dont believe they are worth it.
IPO,s are just the new form of BTC gamblig IMHO. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Kevinatin on May 24, 2016, 07:48:12 PM Nice sockpuppet accounts to hype IPO scams guys. Original poster registers in April 2016 and just mysteriously starts shilling IPO scamcoins straight out of the gate. That's obviously legit organic growth! No wrong doing to be seen here! Ethereum is IPO coin, but it is also PoW. I hope PoW can last 5 more years to dilute the IPO coins. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: GreenBits on May 24, 2016, 08:23:22 PM IPO,s are just the new form of BTC gamblig IMHO. Hot damn sir, this needs to be quoted. You get the cookie for the day. ;D Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: finitemaz on May 24, 2016, 08:35:46 PM why is r0ach so envious? for all those who still dont have it on ignore for the very low post quality: I would really like to know what makes it so extremely jealous it claims that it's rich and doesn't care about money, women and technology but what is it that it cares about? Please enlighten the rest of us if you can see through its intentions. Shilly pump, Shilly goose. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: stoat on May 25, 2016, 12:10:28 PM Nice sockpuppet accounts to hype IPO scams guys. Original poster registers in April 2016 and just mysteriously starts shilling IPO scamcoins straight out of the gate. That's obviously legit organic growth! No wrong doing to be seen here! You should thank god that it's just a post. Judging by how easy you make enemies with your bullshit, odds that one day you'll find yourself in an unknown place drugged and wearing woman cloths are pretty high... Who knows what might happen lol Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: johhnyUA on May 25, 2016, 12:21:35 PM Nice sockpuppet accounts to hype IPO scams guys. Original poster registers in April 2016 and just mysteriously starts shilling IPO scamcoins straight out of the gate. That's obviously legit organic growth! No wrong doing to be seen here! You should thank god that it's just a post. Judging by how easy you make enemies with your bullshit, odds that one day you'll find yourself in an unknown place drugged and wearing woman cloths are pretty high... Its just his opinion. Why you r so intolerant to this? Why do you think that he's a stupid? Only because he dont praise any new hypecoin like DAO or WAwes? Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 25, 2016, 12:26:33 PM Its just his opinion. Why you r so intolerant to this? Why do you think that he's a stupid? Only because he dont praise any new hypecoin like DAO or WAwes? He posts plain lie and was caught on that. PS: He is a trader and tries to protect his investments this way, I don't blame him. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Minecache on May 25, 2016, 03:29:03 PM Its just his opinion. Why you r so intolerant to this? Why do you think that he's a stupid? Only because he dont praise any new hypecoin like DAO or WAwes? He posts plain lie and was caught on that. PS: He is a trader and tries to protect his investments this way, I don't blame him. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: cryptohunter on May 25, 2016, 03:47:38 PM Nice sockpuppet accounts to hype IPO scams guys. Original poster registers in April 2016 and just mysteriously starts shilling IPO scamcoins straight out of the gate. That's obviously legit organic growth! No wrong doing to be seen here! Exactly...the amount of sock puppets turning up in time to support their latest fav ipo is very telling. I'm not 100% against IPO or ICO (although I think POW is much fairer and far harder to manipulate) but many are scams and there needs to really be some guidelines for running ico on here they should stick to. At the minimum all ICO should have 50% POW phase and a long long broad advertising phase. Any method of distribution is fine if it is transparent and fair. ICO is too easy on here to game and manipulate at this time. Fair launch POW needs to return. I would also suggest all ICO funds held by escrows and released only to the devs for promised milestones reached. Look at this "gemz" project. I started following it after someone told me about it . This kind of bullshit needs to be stopped and those running such scams need to be put in jail like any other fraudsters. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: mookid on May 26, 2016, 04:25:08 AM The problem is that people are jumping onto any IPO/ICO they can because they want to make a quick profit, money will be lost, people will get mad, ICOs are the new form of scam.
Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: GreenBits on May 26, 2016, 04:50:30 AM Notice how the ethereum enthusiast haven't been as vocal the last few days ;)
Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: electronicash on May 26, 2016, 04:57:55 AM Doesn't matter what r0ach wants and his ravings if you just ignore him. what makes you interested about r0ach being extremely jealous? just forget about him, its what he's saying that matters because thru it you'll learn a lot.
I don't like him being so negative but i always consider his input. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Come-from-Beyond on May 26, 2016, 09:47:26 AM Doesn't matter what r0ach wants and his ravings if you just ignore him. what makes you interested about r0ach being extremely jealous? just forget about him, its what he's saying that matters because thru it you'll learn a lot. Being on this forum for years I used to have a pocket troll for feeding and grooming. I put too much effort into taming r0ach to just forget about him. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: From Above on June 23, 2016, 01:13:40 PM my theory is his family and or relatives once lost money and have been a little poor since then
now they feel that russians and east europeans r root of all evils he really doesnt know better so we have no choice but 2 feel sorry for him. ~CfA~ Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: tmzn32 on June 23, 2016, 01:51:11 PM This forum is pathetic. Ethereum ruined it. I feel bad for anyone who ever bought that scam coin, you are getting owned by a scam coin. Lol
Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Lauda on June 23, 2016, 02:38:59 PM What kind of innovation are we talking about? Centralized blockchains with coin control? ::) Threads like these are truly pointless.
Notice how the ethereum enthusiast haven't been as vocal the last few days ;) They're working hard on removing the 'de' from decentralized. This gem that someone shared recently is definitely worth watching: ETH situation summarized in one short video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5fdMFKEC0). Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Spoetnik on June 23, 2016, 02:58:05 PM Like myself he gave you all technical reasons a MILLION times.
The deadly brutally real reality here is you obviously can not READ ENGLISH. BUT ! Let's entertain your point for a second.. What commentary exactly has he posted here that implied he was jealous ? I personally do not recall seeing a shred of proof to this accusation ever from roach. And if i did i would say so in a heart beat.. but i just don't see it. A huge massive chunk of you can not read.. it's as simple as that. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Minecache on June 23, 2016, 03:15:32 PM What kind of innovation are we talking about? Centralized blockchains with coin control? ::) Threads like these are truly pointless. Yes of course every other coin should be like Bitcoin crippled Chinese centralised (or BTCCCCZzz for short). Like BTCCCCZzz wouldn't have been forked after MyGozzz if they could have. Trouble was into at case the shitcoinage just vanished. No address no locked out period. Nothing. Notice how the ethereum enthusiast haven't been as vocal the last few days ;) They're working hard on removing the 'de' from decentralized. This gem that someone shared recently is definitely worth watching: ETH situation summarized in one short video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5fdMFKEC0). Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: iamnotback on June 24, 2016, 08:24:48 AM r0ach wants us to pay $550 to Chinese ASIC mining farms for every BTC we buy:
The problem is you don't see the obvious categorization here, private money vs public money. The Federal Reserve currently lends debt based money into existence and charges you interest to use it. This is obviously private money and detrimental to anyone that's suckered into using it when it's clearly neo-feudalism through usury. Funding the development of a block chain technology doesn't mean the block chain issues all the money supply by paying the developers. For example, Ethereum was funded with an ICO, but issuance of the money continued by proof-of-work. Even Charles claimed in his recent video, that he had favored the funding the Ethereum corporation with venture capital instead of an ICO (but he was overruled), so then none of the money supply would have been issued by the developers. But I will agree with you on one aspect, which is that if ICOs hand too much control to one group, then they can continue to influence the project and system which sort of makes them rulers akin to a Federal Reserve. We see this effect recently with Vitalik using his influence to propose forks. And we may be seeing this with WAVES or other ICOs having too much control over the float (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1524111.msg15340159#msg15340159). Gold? Anyone can find it if they try hard enough. There's no strings attached to it. It's not debt based. It's not issued by a central authority. It's not possible to be extorted by interest or devaluation by some unknown party just by picking it up. It's permissionless, public money. Gold is not permissionless. You need a license to mine it in most instances. You pay taxes when you mine it. Increasingly so it is becoming dangerous to carry it with you for the government will just seize it and say you are trafficking it for criminal intent. And besides, who the fuck has time to go mine gold. And it isn't currency, because virtually no one accepts it. The same dynamic exists in cryptocurrency. IPO scamcoins are essentially ... attempting to charge you to utilize their private money system. ... it's still a system of extortion. Pay me to use my money. Private money. It is capitalism, but it's also subjecting yourself to be someone's slave where they make the rules and you're there to benefit them at your own expense. That is not the case if the developers raised funding, but don't control the ongoing issuance via proof-of-work and if the source code is open source so anyone can fork if they aren't satisfied with the attributes of the protocol. In traditional Bitcion PoW, the block reward does not benefit the issuer, so there is no master and slave dynamic. It's public money, just like gold. The slave is everyone who doesn't own an ASIC farm, while they pay $50 per BTC, we pay $600 per BTC. Sorry your logic is REKTED by reality. Proof-of-work just trades one set of owners for another set of owners. Chinese mining oligarchy owns Bitcoin. We pay them $550 per Bitcoin. Enjoy your delusion. Everything else that deviates from this model where the issuer benefits is just a flat out extortion scheme. I'm sorry all of you people want to get paid, but it's not possible in this domain unless you willingly become an extortionist scammer. The reason this forum exists is for the facilitation of public money to defeat those private money scams. It is not different for Bitcoin. The Chinese are extorting us. Fact is that no alternative will be developed without funding. So please come of your "Holier than thou" Mundero "voluntears" high chair (that you've been promoting after buying it) and take off your bib and stop yammering like your were born 6 months ago. And he wants to front run us on other highly flawed altcoins and then sell us his bagholding with some "holier than thou" lies: The problem is you don't see the obvious categorization here, private money vs public money. The Federal Reserve currently lends debt based money into existence and charges you interest to use it. This is obviously private money and detrimental to anyone that's suckered into using it when it's clearly neo-feudalism through usury. Gold? Anyone can find it if they try hard enough. There's no strings attached to it. It's not debt based. It's not issued by a central authority. It's not possible to be extorted by interest or devaluation by some unknown party just by picking it up. It's permissionless, public money. The same dynamic exists in cryptocurrency. IPO scamcoins are essentially directly replicating the Federal Reserve banks, in that they're attempting to charge you to utilize their private money system. Even if you remove the interest or devaluation aspects, it's still a system of extortion. Pay me to use my money. Private money. It is capitalism, but it's also subjecting yourself to be someone's slave where they make the rules and you're there to benefit them at your own expense. In traditional Bitcion PoW, the block reward does not benefit the issuer, so there is no master and slave dynamic. It's public money, just like gold. Everything else that deviates from this model where the issuer benefits is just a flat out extortion scheme. I'm sorry all of you people want to get paid, but it's not possible in this domain unless you willingly become an extortionist scammer. The reason this forum exists is for the facilitation of public money to defeat those private money scams. Roach, good observations and strong points! Does it mean that only Bitcoin is a good basis for social projects, all other currencies are "private" ones? The holders of currencies will benefit and all other participants will loose sooner or later. I'm rather new to the topic, so sorry if my question is stupid one. r0ach is just trying to sell you Monero proof-of-work bagholding that he bought. His logic is incorrect. See my detailed rebuttal immediately above yours. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: SolomonRising on June 25, 2016, 08:28:46 PM R0ach is a little nazi but I think he's right about Ethereum/Ether. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: iamnotback on June 25, 2016, 08:47:39 PM R0ach is a little nazi but I think he's right about Ethereum/Ether. Huh ??? ETH is back up in the $14/15 range. What basis do you have for Ethereum being totally destroyed? I mean I don't agree with the probable fork, but seems the mETH supporters are unified and significant in number. They might lose some support, but not all. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: SolomonRising on June 25, 2016, 09:29:27 PM Huh ??? ETH is back up in the $14/15 range. What basis do you have for Ethereum being totally destroyed? I mean I don't agree with the probable fork, but seems the mETH supporters are unified and significant in number. They might lose some support, but not all. You have no way of knowing that until they make a final decision on the fork. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Come-from-Beyond on June 25, 2016, 09:31:20 PM You have no way of knowing that until they make a final decision on the fork. Are you sure that final decision won't be reverted too? Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: SolomonRising on June 25, 2016, 09:31:36 PM And the price of Ether has been manipulated by classic, r/BTC, etc since day one. So the price alone is not an accurate gauge. BTW, I was telling people to buy up ETH since its ~$.30 lows. Follow the big money cause they always have a plan...or a clever exit scam.
Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: J1mb0 on June 25, 2016, 09:32:25 PM why is r0ach so envious? for all those who still dont have it on ignore for the very low post quality: I would really like to know what makes him so envious. he claims that he's rich and doesn't care about money, women and technology but what is it that it cares about? Please enlighten the rest of us if you can see through its intentions. I heard he is from Latvia, so probably he cares about fishing. If this is true he sees absolutely beautiful women wherever he rests his gaze. It's almost too much to be in Riga. Unlike 90% of the people on this board who are probably 40yo virgins still living with Mum. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: SolomonRising on June 25, 2016, 09:35:40 PM Are you sure that final decision won't be reverted too? Excellent point. Ethereum is one big game; I'm really curious to see what they have planned next. Cause I do think it's all a plan, an insider job with a scope and goal. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: SolomonRising on June 25, 2016, 09:37:49 PM I heard he is from Latvia, so probably he cares about fishing. lol Latvia? This guys is my neighbor. Maybe I'll go fishing with him although I don't know how to fish. :) Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: SolomonRising on June 25, 2016, 09:40:22 PM If this is true he sees absolutely beautiful women wherever he rests his gaze. It's almost too much to be in Riga. Unlike 90% of the people on this board who are probably 40yo virgins still living with Mum. Europe is a painful place to be in the summer. So much hotness which 40 yr old virgin hackers have to not look at. It's pure torture, makes me wanna move to Antarctica. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: iamnotback on June 25, 2016, 09:46:19 PM And the price of Ether has been manipulated by classic, r/BTC, etc since day one. So the price alone is not an accurate gauge. BTW, I was telling people to buy up ETH since its ~$.30 lows. Follow the big money cause they always have a plan...or a clever exit scam. Are you sure that final decision won't be reverted too? Excellent point. Ethereum is one big game; I'm really curious to see what they have planned next. Cause I do think it's all a plan, an insider job with a scope and goal. I am planning to demonstrate a way to raise money without an ICO wherein the market sets the price and the distribution is fair and the scam of getting a loan to buy the ICO from yourself is not plausible. You can read more about that: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1526067.msg15362605#msg15362605 So my serious question to this forum is, with a fair distribution is it impossible for the price to go up? Monero was fairly distributed and the price went up and they have no serious means of attaining adoption (who cares about anonymity). Is launching a project the honest way, with a serious plan for massive adoption and challenging Bitcoin technologically, going to be rewarded by our community or can only insider pumps succeed? Serious question. Please feedback. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Come-from-Beyond on June 25, 2016, 09:51:12 PM Serious question. Please feedback. Define "fair distribution" first. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: iamnotback on June 25, 2016, 09:59:29 PM Serious question. Please feedback. Define "fair distribution" first. Market determined pricing. Free market competition to acquire the tokens. The insiders can't amass a large proportion of the tokens via deception, such as taking out a loan to buy their own ICO. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: Come-from-Beyond on June 25, 2016, 10:03:10 PM Market determined pricing. What kind of market? Perfect market (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_competition)? Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: iamnotback on June 25, 2016, 10:05:12 PM Market determined pricing. What kind of market? Perfect market (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_competition)? I already described the parameters of the market: 1. Competitive, i.e. the price not set by the insiders. 2. Insiders can't via deception amass large proportion of the tokens. I should add a third: 3. Does not require tying the mining to centralization indefinitely, e.g. Zcash's plan to have the miners pay 10% to its foundation indefinitely (does theirs decline to 1% tail, I've forgotten?). Ah maybe this is becoming a thread jack. Apologies. The opportunity popped up to ask a question. I was just hoping to get some feedback. Title: Re: R0ACH is ENVIOUS of ETHEREUM and other innovators Post by: SolomonRising on June 25, 2016, 10:38:24 PM I already described the parameters of the market: 1. Competitive, i.e. the price not set by the insiders. 2. Insiders can't via deception amass large proportion of the tokens. I should add a third: 3. Does not require tying the mining to centralization indefinitely, e.g. Zcash's plan to have the miners pay 10% to its foundation indefinitely (does theirs decline to 1% tail, I've forgotten?). Ah maybe this is becoming a thread jack. Apologies. The opportunity popped up to ask a question. I was just hoping to get some feedback. Look at you man, your other personality kicked in. You should start using your ANONY... moniker again, it was the best one. Props, love the truth you spew, just chillax and change your tampon more often like me, brohim. ;) |