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Okay had a winner DanDan  at 2.6 right on the money.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1468645.msg14956952#msg14956952

back to normal prize of 0.10 btc

I think we're going to see double digits this adjustment, network hash power is on the up and up.  I wonder if it will push the halving into June, wouldn't that be crazy?

I am interested in the operating expenses for these massive mines, and at what point (with current BTC value) does the block solve reward no longer cover their costs?  Looks like, for at least the 12.5 coin period, the next gen hardware will continue to keep massive-scale mining profitable.  So sad for all the little guys...

yeah I was pretty sure I would run this contest until first diff in sept.  which would be about

.7 btc more in prizes not as sure I may run it until first jump in aug instead

here is a point brought up  due to the    2.60%  used by bitcoinwisdom

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1468645.msg14958219#msg14958219



philipma1957 - though it doesn't matter here, it will happen eventually.  You should be clear on how you're rounding this.  Suppose the change was 2.598% which bitcoin wisdom showed as 2.60% because it only shows 2dps - who wins, the chooser of 2.50% or 2.60%?

I think it should be based on unrounded percentage increase, so 2.50% would win.

Here it doesn't matter as the increase was 2.603% but let's get this clarified please.


I did go back and look to see if I could find the discussing on this in an old thread .

  I remember we said bitcoinwisdom was the final number   which gets rid of rounding issues.

So we will use bitcoinwisdom as the tie breaker.

Well in fact, 2.598 is between 2.5 (incl.) and 2.6 (excl.) so I guess the range of 2.5 (incl.) - 2.6 (excl.) should go from 2.5 to 2.5999999(per...)

Hey btw congrats DanDan!!  That was a difficult difficulty guess, with so much burst in global hashrate!

:)

Okay we will not round.

Winner will be done by devision of the two difficulties .

Not the rounded number .

Last thread was full of suspense i was getting close but it turned out and i lost . This one will be difficult too . Can we see new rules?  Why don't we pick numbers like 3.2% to 3.4%?

Well here we go again. Just shows how difficult this game is when you could have picked wrong even in the last few Hours... So very early Days with Variance playing a big part, but 8 Hours in we are at -15%. I think this time I might stop being scientific and just pluck a number out of the air.  ;D


Rich

this time, i want to participate this one :)

Okay  I want to remind you of the rules  30 posts are needed  you have 26....  The picks do not start  for about 3 days.

So you only need to make 4 more posts you will have the thirty and can enter.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   204,541,278,271 (+2.62%)
Adjust time:   After 1931 Blocks, About 13.0 daysWe will start when this is 1116 blocks
Hashrate(?):   1,564,121,066 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.7 minutes
3 blocks: 29.1 minutes
6 blocks: 58.3 minutes
Updated:   9:25 (27.0 seconds ago)




This makes me remember to list other rules:
 

1)you must have been on this site since April 1st 2016  you must have at least 30 posts.
2)I will check you out if you are new and decide if you can play.
3)you get one play per adjustment. which must be yours alone, in proper format and can not be changed.



4)Do not pick someone else's number If you do I will assign a number and that will not be changed
5) picks start at:

Bitcoin Difficulty:   194,254,820,283
Estimated Next Difficulty:   210,010,283,433 (+8.11%)
Adjust time:   After 1975 Blocks, About 13.5 days   1116 note the change
Hashrate(?):   1,425,436,593 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):  
1 block: 9.8 minutes
3 blocks: 29.6 minutes
6 blocks: 59.1 minutes
Updated:   9:40 (2.6 minutes ago)




6) picks end at

Bitcoin Difficulty:   194,254,820,283
Estimated Next Difficulty:   210,010,283,433 (+8.11%)
Adjust time:   After 1975 Blocks, About 13.5 days   716 note the change
Hashrate(?):   1,425,436,593 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):  
1 block: 9.8 minutes
3 blocks: 29.6 minutes
6 blocks: 59.1 minutes
Updated:  



7)  since this is a free contest I make all decisions if there are any issues or problems.


8 ) note the change  picks start later and end late in the hope of helping a person to pick a winner.

9) format is below and this is the last contest picks

-1.2 = philipma1957  >>>>  if I hit I will roll it back in
-0.5 = Erumara        
  0.0 = adaseb
+0.7 = adib
+0.8 = ingiltere
+0.9 = usenet
+1.0 = NeuroticFish
+1.4 = ahmedjamal1998
+1.5 = lolxxxx
+1.7 = ezeminer
+2.2 = Valkir
+2.3 = fr4nkthetank
+2.7 = blindminer
+3.0 = topiOleg
+3.1 = tlhIlwI
+3.2 = Psi
+3.3 = HagssFIN     you are welcome!
+3.4 = HerbPean
+3.5 = Veves1
+3.6 = Cuidler
+3.7! Thank you!    @ Roadstress  Pleaz try to do it right >    +3.7 = Roadstress
+3.9 = flikflak
+4.0 = pusttiu
+4.1 = Amph
+4.2 = VirosaGITS
+4.5 = redhack
+4.6 = talks_cheep
+4.7 = Ankara
+4.8  = indiemax
+4.9 = ATguy
+5.0 = alh
+5.1 = FruitsBasket
+5.2 = VRobb
+5.3 = Dexter770221
+5.4 = gnaoui
+5.5 = vapourminer
+5.6 = mavericklm     I changed your pick to   +5.6 as vapourminer had +5.5
+5.7 = wlefever
+5.8 = Notlist3d
+5.9 = Chris!
+6.5 = wpt1wpt1
+6.6 = edonkey
+6.7 = zebedee
+6.8 = AM4Bitcoin
+6.9% = Mikestang
+7.6 = RichBC


Difficulty History

Date                     Difficulty                  Change   Hash Rate
May 24 2016   199,312,067,531   2.60%   1,426,731,353 GH/s
May 11 2016   194,254,820,283   8.73%   1,390,530,167 GH/s


Apr 28 2016   178,659,257,773   -0.01%   1,278,892,782 GH/s
Apr 14 2016   178,678,307,672   7.09%   1,279,029,147 GH/s
Apr 01 2016   166,851,513,283   0.82%   1,194,369,655 GH/s
Mar 18 2016   165,496,835,118   4.46%   1,184,672,491 GH/s
Mar 04 2016   158,427,203,767   -3.10%   1,134,066,098 GH/s
Feb 19 2016   163,491,654,909   13.44%   1,170,318,852 GH/s
Feb 07 2016   144,116,447,847   20.06%   1,031,625,717 GH/s
Jan 26 2016   120,033,340,651   5.89%   859,232,121 GH/s
Jan 13 2016   113,354,299,801   9.12%   811,421,684 GH/s
Dec 31 2015   103,880,340,815   11.16%   743,604,444 GH/s
Dec 18 2015   93,448,670,796           18.14%   668,931,642 GH/s
Dec 06 2015   79,102,380,900           8.77%   566,236,898 GH/s
Nov 24 2015   72,722,780,643          10.44%   520,569,941 GH/s
Nov 11 2015   65,848,255,180   5.77%   471,360,171 GH/s
Oct 29 2015   62,253,982,450   2.25%   445,631,364 GH/s
Oct 15 2015   60,883,825,480   0.12%   435,823,399 GH/s
Oct 01 2015   60,813,224,039   2.49%   435,318,014 GH/s
Sep 17 2015   59,335,351,234   4.17%   424,738,988 GH/s
Sep 04 2015   56,957,648,455   4.98%   407,718,729 GH/s
Aug 22 2015   54,256,630,328   2.95%   388,384,088 GH/s
Aug 08 2015   52,699,842,409   0.81%   377,240,166 GH/s
Jul 25 2015   52,278,304,846   2.35%   374,222,683 GH/s
Jul 11 2015   51,076,366,303   3.39%   365,618,871 GH/s
Jun 28 2015   49,402,014,931   -0.58%   353,633,397 GH/s
Jun 14 2015   49,692,386,355   4.42%   355,711,957 GH/s
May 31 2015   47,589,591,154   -2.50%   340,659,563 GH/s
May 17 2015   48,807,487,245   2.44%   349,377,603 GH/s
May 03 2015   47,643,398,018   0.07%   341,044,727 GH/s
Apr 19 2015   47,610,564,513   -3.71%   340,809,696 GH/s
Apr 05 2015   49,446,390,688   5.84%   353,951,052 GH/s
Mar 22 2015   46,717,549,645   -1.50%   334,417,246 GH/s
Mar 08 2015   47,427,554,951   1.59%   339,499,662 GH/s
Feb 22 2015   46,684,376,317   5.01%   334,179,783 GH/s
Feb 09 2015   44,455,415,962   7.71%   318,224,263 GH/s
Jan 27 2015   41,272,873,895   -6.14%   295,442,739 GH/s
Jan 12 2015   43,971,662,056   8.20%   314,761,417 GH/s
Dec 30 2014   40,640,955,017   3.00%   290,919,288 GH/s
Dec 17 2014   39,457,671,307   -1.37%   282,449,013 GH/s
Dec 02 2014   40,007,470,271   -0.73%   286,384,627 GH/s
Nov 18 2014   40,300,030,328   1.76%   288,478,854 GH/s
Nov 05 2014   39,603,666,252   10.05%   283,494,086 GH/s
Oct 23 2014   35,985,640,265   2.81%   257,595,247 GH/s
Oct 09 2014   35,002,482,026   0.98%   250,557,526 GH/s
Sep 25 2014   34,661,425,924   16.20%   248,116,151 GH/s
Sep 13 2014   29,829,733,124   8.75%   213,529,547 GH/s
Aug 31 2014   27,428,630,902   15.03%   196,341,788 GH/s
Aug 19 2014   23,844,670,039   20.86%   170,686,797 GH/s
Aug 08 2014   19,729,645,941   5.30%   141,230,307 GH/s
© 2013-2014 BitcoinWisdom.com

10) Finally we will be able to fund contest until at least the first diff jump in sept.

 unless of course the ½ing destroys mining.

last rule  we use bitcoinwisdom to determine the jump%

Difficulty History

Date   Difficulty   Change   Hash Rate




May 24 2016   199,312,067,531   2.60%   1,426,731,353 GH/s  


 so   199,312,067,531 / 194,254,820,283  = 1.02603408883565 - 1 = .02603408883565  x 100 =  2.603408883565%    which was then rounded to 2.60%

Since  a number could be   something like 2.5999932%   bitcoinwisdom would round it up  to 2.60%.

I won't  so we can have a case  where the winner will not match the rounded number posted by bitcoinwisdom.  




May 11 2016   194,254,820,283   8.73%   1,390,530,167 GH/s
Apr 28 2016   178,659,257,773   -0.01%   1,278,892,782 GH/s
Apr 14 2016   178,678,307,672   7.09%   1,279,029,147 GH/s
Apr 01 2016   166,851,513,283   0.82%   1,194,369,655 GH/s
Mar 18 2016   165,496,835,118   4.46%   1,184,672,491 GH/s
Mar 04 2016   158,427,203,767   -3.10%   1,134,066,098 GH/s
Feb 19 2016   163,491,654,909   13.44%   1,170,318,852 GH/s
Feb 07 2016   144,116,447,847   20.06%   1,031,625,717 GH/s
Jan 26 2016   120,033,340,651   5.89%   859,232,121 GH/s
Jan 13 2016   113,354,299,801   9.12%   811,421,684 GH/s
Dec 31 2015   103,880,340,815   11.16%   743,604,444 GH/s
Dec 18 2015   93,448,670,796   18.14%   668,931,642 GH/s
Dec 06 2015   79,102,380,900   8.77%   566,236,898 GH/s
Nov 24 2015   72,722,780,643   10.44%   520,569,941 GH/s
Nov 11 2015   65,848,255,180   5.77%   471,360,171 GH/s
Oct 29 2015   62,253,982,450   2.25%   445,631,364 GH/s
Oct 15 2015   60,883,825,480   0.12%   435,823,399 GH/s
Oct 01 2015   60,813,224,039   2.49%   435,318,014 GH/s
Sep 17 2015   59,335,351,234   4.17%   424,738,988 GH/s
Sep 04 2015   56,957,648,455   4.98%   407,718,729 GH/s
Aug 22 2015   54,256,630,328   2.95%   388,384,088 GH/s
Aug 08 2015   52,699,842,409   0.81%   377,240,166 GH/s
Jul 25 2015   52,278,304,846   2.35%   374,222,683 GH/s
Jul 11 2015   51,076,366,303   3.39%   365,618,871 GH/s
Jun 28 2015   49,402,014,931   -0.58%   353,633,397 GH/s
Jun 14 2015   49,692,386,355   4.42%   355,711,9

I do not have 30 posts, but I am an active member of the Bitcoin community and would very much enjoy playing the game.
Is there a way I can get a pass so I don't have to spam 30 posts?

Evidence: I am creator of the Bitcoin engagement ring:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/21/a-bitcoin-engagement-ring/ (http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/21/a-bitcoin-engagement-ring/)
http://imgur.com/kX9i80Q (http://imgur.com/kX9i80Q)

I also am involved in more academic bitcoin projects:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx3C8uU5BbrGM3lrMjlWNUdMREU (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx3C8uU5BbrGM3lrMjlWNUdMREU)

Thanks,
SebbySebbyBinx

Were starting off decent on BTC value it's gone up to 450 on coinbase.   So hopefully we can go higher this period.  Last period we ended up in 440's most of the time it seemed.

Still early off but bitwisdom:
Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    208,629,846,397 (+4.67%)
Adjust time:    After 1878 Blocks, About 12.3 days
Hashrate(?):    1,536,586,477 GH/s

Hopefully we can stay under 5 percent is the number I like to be under.   Last time was pretty good at 2.6.

Rules are rules for a reason, if he made an exception for you (who, by the way, provided no evidence of who you are, just some links; hey, I own the whitehouse, evidence: https://www.whitehouse.gov/) then he would have to make an exception for everyone.  If you are active then you should have no problem qualifying by the next round.

Okay here is the deal this is a giveaway  totally free game.

When we had a large prize of 0.30 btc I had 3 newbies post three consecutive picks  with an hour left to pick  giving them a real edge if they were the same person.

I told them I would let their picks stand if they would pm real proof of whom they are.  They did not and the 2 month 30 good post rule was created.

So we just had a big prize 0.40 btc and we had 1 or 2 new people try to enter.  Just a few picks above one of the new people asked me a second time for this contest.  I am allowing him via time and if he makes a few more posts he has 26 I will allow him. To enter this contest.

You have been around a long time and you don't post much so I don't mind newer members like you joining but I need to vet you .  Let me look closer at your posts. before I decide.

Best regards phil

okay simple question  do you have any of your btc rings available?


if you do put one on your pinky finger     and photo it right under this:






Place hand with ring on pinky    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>









That would prove you are the ring maker which would work for me.

I would wave the 30 post rule in this case.


best regards Phil

Yeah I like it!  The matheux (mather?  mathor?  methematicioux?) in me likes that kind of precision.  :)

Mathematician

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematician


I think you were looking for this.

Speaking of math lets do a real world number.


https://blockchain.info/

413447 (Main Chain)   2016-05-26 02:00:12  we are here right now

 


413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump

so 166 blocks made


1 day         = 144 blocks
4 hours      =   24 blocks
40 minutes =    4  blocks

adds to   172  so 166/172-1 =  (-3.488372093023%)

while bitcoinwisdom using  part of last jump is very much higher


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyBitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531


Estimated Next Difficulty:   209,085,948,934 (+4.90%)  way high compared to real time.

Adjust time:   After 1849 Blocks, About 12.1 days  We start at 1116 blocks


Hashrate(?):   1,523,581,927 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.4 minutes
3 blocks: 28.2 minutes
6 blocks: 56.5 minutes
Updated:   22:5 (3.2 minutes ago)

One thing I think I have learned is asic builders simply play with difficulty numbers ramping  up  100 to 300 ph at a time

LOL thanks!  In french we slang it as matheux (instead of mathématicien) so I thought there was a urban word like that in english.  :)

Anyway, let's hope our friends at Bitmain, Bitfurry, KnC and whoever, give us a break with their new generation miners for at least a few weeks before firing everything up and giving us headaches with our not-much-lucrative-anymore-mining.

I don't want a jump over 3% guys, ok?   ;D

12 Digits after the decimal ;D

The calculator on the Mac mini rounds to 12 digits.

And I know that there is a tiny chance of a number like

2.5999999999999999 which  would round to 2.60. Since my claculator only goes to 12 digits .

If indeed that happens  I will pay both Picks since the odds would be more then 1 billion to one.

At kexkey some may earn the,nickname "numbers". Some have called me Phillie numbers  as I am quick with math.

Sometimes you can refer to a person as your "numbers" guy. A slang that means you rely on that person for math choices because he is,good with numbers.

So first full Day of the new Period and we did -4.17% with 138 Blocks. Slowish start this Morning and the Period to Date Run Rate sits at -5.9%. OK so far....


Rich

look at this screen shot:


https://i.imgur.com/eVf8pW2.png

There was recently a blackout in Seattle... that corresponds to the drop off of this spike.  Who has the 1 EH datacenter in Seattle that blew the grid? :P

The surge that is the power grid! :)

I like this news.
real time below



https://blockchain.info/blocks

413518 (Main Chain)    2016-05-26 15:28:27   we are here right now

413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump

we are at 237 made

1 day         144 blocks
18 hours    108 blocks
20 minutes    2 blocks

that is 254 for 0%

so 237/254 -1 = - 6.692913385827% real time number
see charts:


http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png

https://i.imgur.com/eVf8pW2.png

Yeah I was joking about all the rounding issue. I mean 12 digit should be plenty enough for what we are doing.
 

I figured you were.  i tried dry humor with my reply but it does not play well in type. ;D

I would be extremely happy with a negative, I'm not sure we will see one though.  April 28 was technically a negative but not by much -0.01%.   It's been since March 4th since last decent negative -3.10%.  I hope I am wrong.

Bitwisdom is higher then real:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    207,824,409,631 (+4.27%)
Adjust time:    After 1769 Blocks, About 11.8 days
Hashrate(?):    1,431,198,131 GH/s

Price has remained above 450 on coinbase is a good thing.  Were around 453 hopefully we can gain ground I really would love to see 460 again.

We might see a flat adjustment, but I doubt we'll see significant negative until after the halving, if even then.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2ef15bm.jpg

Looks like the burn-in test of the next gen hardware is over.  My guess is now we will see the last gen stuff coming offline and being resold to make room for the new gear, and then the difficulty will go up up up.  When will we see a 500G difficulty?  :-\

my guess is we won't see 500diff very soon


the ½ ing and the new gear will kill off everything that is older for a lot of miners.

once the ½ ing happens  a 14 th machine using   .1 watts  is

 -  at a diff of 479 at 10 cent power pulls in  461 after power
- at a diff of   583 at 8 cent power pulls in 645 after power
- at a diff of 744 at 6 cent power pulls in 879 after power
- at a diff of 1154 at 4 cent power pulls in 1171 after power
- at a diff of 1546 at 3 cent power  pulls in 1350 after power

I used 5% diff jumps  based on the above  diff will not rise at 5%  and I used today as the day you start it up.  so if btc is going to work we are going to see flat growth  not 5% jumps

https://blockchain.info/blocks

413518 (Main Chain)    2016-05-26 15:28:27   we are here right now

413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump

we are at 237 made

1 day         144 blocks
18 hours    108 blocks
20 minutes    2 blocks

that is 254 for 0%

so 237/254 -1 = - 6.692913385827% real time number

So this was early today. Where do we stand now?

https://blockchain.info/blocks


413581 (Main Chain)    2016-05-27 02:46:30  current block

413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump



300 even

2 days        = 288
5 hours      =   30
30 minutes =    3


321 = 0%

300/321-1  = (-6.542056074766%)

 real time number.  but we saw them add 1000 ph  so this is pretty much a worthless number.

On adding I keep thinking we will see next gen.  I honestly am surprised there has not been anyone to release it yet.  I keep thinking we will see it before having from someone but I could be wrong.

If we don't see next gen before having it's going to get even tighter on profits at least for me.  But value took a good jump .. nice to see coinbase around 467 and China is awake now.  So hopefully we see it go up even more.

Wow just up in the UK and look at the price... $472 Had to do a double take, does anyone know the reason?

Rich

Don't know reason why but I wont complain.  It seems that China is driving it I think looking at timing of it.  But I have not heard of any news or great things to be the reason China is pushing it up.

Yes let's hope we can hold this price and then build on it. So Yesterday was -6.235% with 135 Blocks and this Morning off to a slow start with the Period to Date Run Rate down to -7.8%. Let's hope the Price & Hash Rate trends can continue, but getting both I guess is just a bit greedy...


Rich

The high to beat is the $504 high from Nov 2015. After that we are approaching highs from 2014's.

Too bad I pretty much sold all my ASICs for GPUs.

update

413627 (Main Chain)   2016-05-27 11:44:27

413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04


346 blocks made


2 days     288
14 hours    84
40 min        4


376 = 0%

346/376-1 = (-7.978723404255%)  

This is great but we know they can add 1000ph anytime they want to.  They are pumping value to do sales. Along with Diff drop.

Buying an expensive s-9  at 450 a coin looks bad ,

 buying it at  650 a coin seems better.

We saw the big pump from 200 to 500 last fall

Maybe we pump from 450 to 650 this time.

My issue with this is it is clearly manipulation of Diff and price.

http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-declares-bankruptcy-cites-upcoming-bitcoin-subsidy-halving/

Look like around 50 Peta is going down at the halving

Well  I guess that is good. But these days 50 ph is a drop in the bucket.

Here is a real time update


https://blockchain.info/blocks

413664 (Main Chain)   2016-05-27 18:21:44 current block

413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump

so 383 made

2 days     = 288

21 hours  = 126

20 minutes     2

so we should be at 416

383/416 -1 = (7.932692307692%)


but  we saw a 1000ph spike   so real time does not mean much if they can 2x the network anytime they want to do so.

This is what I've been hoping for!  At some point it will not be possible to run the megamines for the reward they receive.  Here's to several hundred more PH dropping off the network!

yeah I guess but some mofo did that 1000ph spike.  which is insane.  So I have some deep concerns at the moment.

I dont believe the 50 Peta is going out of the network. Most likely their ASICs are going to be sold, so the 50 Peta leaving the network only for some time.

What might actually happen in future is the power not effecient ASICs ends in the hands of those with free electricity where megamines even with cheap electricity and most power effecient ASICs could not compete with - but maybe this never happens.

Pretty soon we will be turning off our GPUs rigs and turning on our Antminers.

Yearly highs just broke! 

What miners did they mine with anyways? KNC Neptunes? Or did they have some better technology?

413720 (Main Chain)   2016-05-28 02:47:47  current block


413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump


439 blocks

3 days           432 blocks
5 hours            30 blocks
30 minutes         3 blocks

462 =0%


439/462 -1 =   (-4.978354978355%)

real time  number   above

future prediction below
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   210,449,218,722  (+5.59%)
Adjust time:   After 1576 Blocks, About 10.4 days
Hashrate(?):   1,367,179,925 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.5 minutes
3 blocks: 28.4 minutes
6 blocks: 56.8 minutes
Updated:   22:55 (5.7 minutes ago)


but the problem we have for btc is that current rate is 1,367,000,000  and it can go to 2,200,000,000

over night  which means  the diff rate is truly easy for someone to shift up and down at will.

this can't possibly be a good thing for any one in the game.

[conspiracy]Would it be a 38% attack if they use it that way?  I would think that if it became obvious that diff was manipulated (not saying it hasn't already been...) then the price would tank once people saw what was happening; it would be a self-defeating attack.  Or are we seeing it happen that way now?[/conspiracy]

Wow look at the price... getting very close to $500. :) assume we will see some selling if we hit it? This is what Cryptocoinsnews had to say.

So Yesterday was -3.47% with 139 Blocks and again a slowish start to Today, 6 Hours in,  with the Period to Date Run Rate at -5.9%


Rich

Well if in a week it is still $500 then we might start going higher. Block halving is around the corner.

https://blockchain.info/blocks

413797 (Main Chain)  2016-05-28 16:09:52   current block


413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump


516 blocks

3 days           432   blocks
19 hours        114   blocks

546 =0%


516/546 -1 =   (-5.494505494505%)

real time  number   above

future prediction below
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   208,371,305,508 (+4.55%)
Adjust time:   After 1499 Blocks, About 10.0 days
Hashrate(?):   1,352,899,036 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.6 minutes
3 blocks: 28.9 minutes
6 blocks: 57.8 minutes
Updated:   12:25 (3.5 minutes ago)






but the problem we have for btc is that current hash  rate is 1,367,000,000  and it can go to 2,200,000,000
 hash rate  overnight  which means  the diff rate is truly easy for someone to shift up and down at will.

this can't possibly be a good thing for any one in the game.


price at coinbase is just under 500

The thing I can't understand is why would anyone want to shift down with gear?  It seems they would want to get as much BTC as possible and run the gear.  Maybe if someone was selling next gen and wanted people to see smaller hash rate.  But I just don't see reason currently.

I am happy with price though I was wanting 460 at least and we got almost 500, so a heck of a value increase.   If only Ether would have got the jump to in value.

I think most if not all of the 2200 ph peak on the 23rd is just luck. There is no reason for Bitmain to show people how much additional hash they have right before they start selling S9 - it would be dumb showing they have ready 1000 ph which could almost double difficulty after they sell all their S9s. And if the peak come from someone else, there is not reason to stop mining with it.

Do you understand the math behind a jump from 1200 ph to 2200 ph?   Do you actually think that much variance is possible?

I would think to do the jump like that  the odds are higher then 365,000,000 to one.   so every 1 million years the network  might do it on luck.

So you said most was luck  that would be the 1000ph jump was 550ph luck and 450ph not luck.

We have been clocking the network for years on these threads.   We have noticed a 150 to 225 ph flux in the hash rate time and time again   way too much for it to be luck.

the s-7 is 4.7 th the new miner may be 14th  about 3 x that 4.7th   so 3x 150 to 225 = 450 to 675ph  less then the 1000ph spike.  So maybe you are correct and it is only 450 ph not 1000ph.

It is too much in the hands of one company. 

I have understanding of statistic. By quickly looking I see around 300 ph flux as a normal (daily high-min) coresponding to 1 sigma, thus we are looking at about 3 sigma effect, or 0.27% (1 in about 370) if it come just by gausian variance.

If you see such 3 sigma effect which happened on 23rd much more often than about once a year, then yes, its likely not just gausian variance.

Really really surprised that the difficulty isnt going up despite BTC going up 33% in just 2 days.

Trading overseas was what sparked this I think.. China was at 3885 CNY which was like 590 USD, at one point it was a $70 difference in price here compared to there.

Looks like bitmaintech tried two things.

1) pumped price a bit with Chinese trading
2) lowered diff a bit by keeping the s-9s off line


Why?   I have a few ideas

But looking for your ideas.

Price pump and keeping difficulty low might mean S9 should be start selling in few days. It would make sence for bitmaintech to have hands in both events to sell as much S9s as possible, because the sentiment was with price stagnating, difficulty going up and halving comming, S9 cannot be profitable.

S7 batch 18 is in the sell at bitmain site, from 2nd June.

First they must sell all their S7´s, they could start selling S9´s only after S7 batch 18 is sold. Obviously good Bitcoin price might bring interest even to the S7´s, so I guess bitmain is already mining with S9´s only - and all their S7´s are offline instead.

I suppose they took all s-7s off line .

Made s-7 life's with some and kept others as s-7s

But to,keep diff down they have some s-9 on line not all.

They started selling the s-7 lites which was a good deal if you had psus of better quality as you could sell the one they shipped to you.

I figured you could buy 4 s-7 lites with shipping for 1291 - 291 for there gold psus if sold on eBay.

So 10.8 th for 1000 bucks.

If you purchased 2 s-7 s they came to 1020 dollars

So you were getting 10.8 vs 9.4 th for less $$

And I would think more over clock. Since it was 8 board vs 6 boards

bitmain is go to ethereum .....after the halvig btc in not very profitabil for all.
s9 is not for sale now maybe after bitmain make ROI sell used asic..

With a BTC price in excess of $500, some marginal mining is now back in the black for another month, barring a price collapse. I wonder if this will let Bitmain delay an S9 introduction to the public. Give them more time to complete the S7 --> S9 switch inside their farm(s).

Interesting times indeed.

https://blockchain.info/blocks

413966 (Main Chain)   2016-05-29 19:03:26  current block


413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump


685 blocks

4 days           576   blocks
21 hours        126   blocks
40 minutes        4

706 =0%


685/706 -1 =  (-2.974504249292%)

real time  number   above

future prediction below

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   205,971,544,504 (+3.34%)

Adjust time:   After 1330 Blocks, About 9.1 days <<<<<  picks start at 1116


Hashrate(?):   1,407,568,132 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.8 minutes
3 blocks: 29.4 minutes
6 blocks: 58.9 minutes
Updated:   15:5 (3.9 minutes ago)






but the problem we have for btc is that current hash  rate is 1,407,000,000  and it can go to 2,200,000,000
 hash rate  overnight  which means  the diff rate is truly easy for someone to shift up and down at will.

this can't possibly be a good thing for any one in the game.


price at coinbase is just over  540

Value is just amazing hitting 540 + on coinbase, and it was not that long ago we were sitting in 440's.  So heck of a uptick in  value.  So it was suprising to see for sure, also surprising is difficulty is staying pretty reasonable.

I keep thinking we will see some gear come online seeing this.  But so far nothing big it seems.

they need to sell the s-7s.

so price will stay over 500 and diff will keep low.

once s-7's are sold  the shit should hit the fan.

I am not sure what they will do about selling the s-9.

My thoughts are they will delay the sale of the s-9 as long as the can.

Just mine with it. 

the diff ,the price ,the ½ ing   all factor in.

Sadly we lost a little going to around 531 currently on coinbase.  So still a heck of a bump though.   One thing is Bitmain is not only company, so we might see others with next gen first.  There is a post with some new BW chips - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1487358.0

If those chips hit target.... we could be seeing some hardware added sooner I would guess.  But hard to speculate not much info on chips.

A bit late, but it may be related to the KNC:
https://news.bitcoin.com/knc-miner-bankruptcy-shutting-down/

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   201,360,449,418 (+1.03%)

Adjust time:   After 1252 Blocks, About 8.8 days  >>> we start at 1116


Hashrate(?):   1,383,040,269 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.2 minutes
3 blocks: 30.5 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   6:15 (5.0 minutes ago)

KNC is mining with 3% in the last 24 hours
https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=24hrs

In fact, this is their standard hashrate and given classic blocks have consistently about 5% over last few weeks and KNC is major contributor to classic blocks, I dont think KNC powered off their hashing even for one day since their bankruptcy annoncement.

Anyway, when KNC turns down mining, -3% can help home miners a bit (unless bitmain compensate by turning on +3% if bitmain really play games with keeping the difficulty constant)

Hashrate(?):   1,435,967,320 GH/s

Looks like someone just fired some power ! (or maybe just variance)

looks like the spike is starting


http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png


https://i.imgur.com/5mnxQkf.png

Bitwisdom has a negative now which is nice to see:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    199,071,301,007 (-0.12%)
Adjust time:    After 1173 Blocks, About 8.4 days
Hashrate(?):    1,423,370,617 GH/s

And value is around 533, so still holding most of the value of the jump up.   So looking pretty good as far as this difficulty period goes.

yes we are in - territory.  so if we spike like mad maybe we go to + 3 for the jump

We will open at block 1116 correct?


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   199,525,470,095 (+0.11%)


Adjust time:   After 1140 Blocks, About 8.2 days


Hashrate(?):   1,426,707,763 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   0:35 (4.3 minutes ago)

picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,098,362,517   (-0.61%)


Adjust time:   After 1111 Blocks, About 8.0 days    >>>>>>>  picks will end at 716 blocks


Hashrate(?):   1,395,801,247 GH/s


Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.1 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   6:55 (4.2 minutes ago)



-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

gottagetmy5.5gottagetmy5.5gotta..

+5.5 = vapourminer

*whew*

+4.3 = merelcoin

It looks like a longshot :) It looks like the S9 just came out, so i hope it'll rise

+3.5 = lolxxxx

hope i win  ;D


+0.2 = albertamining

picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,098,362,517   (-0.61%)


Adjust time:   After 1111 Blocks, About 8.0 days    >>>>>>>  picks will end at 716 blocks


Hashrate(?):   1,395,801,247 GH/s


Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.1 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   6:55 (4.2 minutes ago)



-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+3.5 = lolxxxx
+4.3 = merelcoin
+5.5 = vapourminer



I got me an s-9 on order.

+4.2 = gnaoui

Good luck!

Got no idea what's coming up, so here's a stab in  the dark:

+3.9 = VRobb

Thanks philip for the fun!

With the release of new equipment , this times difficulty is very hard to predict,

good luck all

+2.1 = petahashminer

-2.5  =  Lindin99

picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty



Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,869,689,710 (-0.22%)

Adjust time:   After 1086 Blocks, About 7.8 days  >>>>we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,391,748,933 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   10:5 (3.5 minutes ago)









-2.5  =  Lindin99
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+2.1 = petahashminer
+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb
+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+5.5 = vapourminer

-2.0 = HagssFIN

Thanks again, for doing this!

picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty



Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,869,689,710 (-0.22%)

Adjust time:   After 1086 Blocks, About 7.8 days  >>>>we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,391,748,933 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   10:5 (3.5 minutes ago)









-2.5  =  Lindin99
-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+2.1 = petahashminer
+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb
+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+5.5 = vapourminer

+0.6 = Erumara

picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty



Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,869,689,710 (-0.22%)

Adjust time:   After 1086 Blocks, About 7.8 days  >>>>we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,391,748,933 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   10:5 (3.5 minutes ago)









-2.5  =  Lindin99
-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.6 = Erumara
+2.1 = petahashminer
+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb
+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+5.5 = vapourminer

Bump for phil

Some fun with bitmaintech master btc addy


https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V


first orders

https://blockchain.info/tx/b8af612b665c50e22d7fac09b69d7a19a714673f0451ab0e2e84e3bd2fd401e4   9.906


https://blockchain.info/tx/800eba8a97d69b360723d36a534626db1e6bb3c7b82db7b39e780a5fb5e1cd54  4.007
https://blockchain.info/tx/6815fe3a880fff73725ac6fbeae17447931b79708c573f165a4a39d5ac6c5151      4.014
https://blockchain.info/tx/007ee4c061744ae9bf9f098fef3d155b23a5d9c70c420317698514a1cad64e68     7.901
https://blockchain.info/tx/00768ea6e10b00b36128cfc371a6c7015f6cc9a19046e4dea50fb55a92947748    3.996
https://blockchain.info/tx/df36110d761329593c6a3eea0a2d491c3e4d346fa8a7c37be3caa3cdab5ba986  18.373
https://blockchain.info/tx/f9b12a49c258461983a50116a0ebca41a0f268cded28c1f45ca6e64861055189   12.799
https://blockchain.info/tx/789d495b8638127dda5cc9223b40a87490a88edcf6cf92592c3793e97aa5fd95   19.808
https://blockchain.info/tx/c6789a6dcd0f8f272b4689c6177f4ee80dff1e58cae5deca0ce9e3b4ccd5a7fe       19.769
https://blockchain.info/tx/1234c695cc1a42f927ba7a2b3eae8f9ac08d487997a0d723390d0ea585f0b8e8     3.996
https://blockchain.info/tx/feb24794abb5272172615b7d1935b8cb446e473e8c38a40d46f9da9c186bfb95     4.012

+0.5  =  Veves1

0.0 = adaseb

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank


both btc and diff is going to the moon :)

Some fun with bitmaintech master btc addy


https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V


first orders

https://blockchain.info/tx/b8af612b665c50e22d7fac09b69d7a19a714673f0451ab0e2e84e3bd2fd401e4     9.906
https://blockchain.info/tx/800eba8a97d69b360723d36a534626db1e6bb3c7b82db7b39e780a5fb5e1cd54   4.007
https://blockchain.info/tx/6815fe3a880fff73725ac6fbeae17447931b79708c573f165a4a39d5ac6c5151        4.014
https://blockchain.info/tx/007ee4c061744ae9bf9f098fef3d155b23a5d9c70c420317698514a1cad64e68      7.901
https://blockchain.info/tx/00768ea6e10b00b36128cfc371a6c7015f6cc9a19046e4dea50fb55a92947748     3.996
https://blockchain.info/tx/df36110d761329593c6a3eea0a2d491c3e4d346fa8a7c37be3caa3cdab5ba986   18.373
https://blockchain.info/tx/f9b12a49c258461983a50116a0ebca41a0f268cded28c1f45ca6e64861055189    12.799
https://blockchain.info/tx/789d495b8638127dda5cc9223b40a87490a88edcf6cf92592c3793e97aa5fd95    19.808
https://blockchain.info/tx/c6789a6dcd0f8f272b4689c6177f4ee80dff1e58cae5deca0ce9e3b4ccd5a7fe        19.769
https://blockchain.info/tx/1234c695cc1a42f927ba7a2b3eae8f9ac08d487997a0d723390d0ea585f0b8e8      3.996
https://blockchain.info/tx/feb24794abb5272172615b7d1935b8cb446e473e8c38a40d46f9da9c186bfb95     4.012
https://blockchain.info/tx/974ec95695346a04174dc60565ebe52ccb28837399c43269d89b51a96921cdf9   19.741
https://blockchain.info/tx/a0a791ae1daacbaeafa3e01968583052810b693faf33191471f614c04540d017     3.995
https://blockchain.info/tx/4f171d5d371cd517b4d8760989a45d3a93f6ef061655a071c09087ed6bf4e772    19.8
https://blockchain.info/tx/d13bded6bb0647d6aab21f44ec9b624da8b1f24be17d46dcf9c2cdf57c3cb4fb      8.63
https://blockchain.info/tx/b411964fbb16d1fd09aa81ddd4093be2b52947f154486e32713f94380cd7d766   7.985





sales are not that brisk   about 165 btc  or 40 units   maybe more like 38 units and some pcs

picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty



Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,869,689,710 (-0.22%)

Adjust time:   After 1086 Blocks, About 7.8 days  >>>>we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,391,748,933 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   10:5 (3.5 minutes ago)









-2.5  =  Lindin99
-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

0.0 = adaseb

+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good

+0.5  =  Veves1
+0.6 = Erumara
+2.1 = petahashminer
+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb
+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank

Will be interesting to see what the S9 does, they did to a heck of a job it seems from specs listed.  S7 Power Efficiency: 0.25 J/GH + 10% (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp) to S9 3. Power Efficiency: 0.098 J/GH + 7%(at the wall, with APW3 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)

And it will be shipping out before having with June 12.  Definitely interesting times to come.

The S9 release date of June 12 could be a real blow ti BitFury and BW.

Looks like you get about 3 weeks of hashing on the S9 before the halving.

0.098 is a beautiful number, not sold on grabbing batch 1 units with that price though.

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1

It's an interesting gamble Bitmain is taking releasing these now.  There's no way to ROI before the halving, so you are gambling that they will be able to pay for themselves after the halving, which is uncertain.  I will not buy new from Bitmain, I refuse to support them directly, but once some 3rd party deals start happening I'm going to have to get a 16nm machine, the efficiency is just nuts.

So much network growth, for example check out HaoBTC, they were 9PH when I first deposited some coin with them:

Hopefully we'll stay ~flat this period, but big changes are coming for sure.

+0.7% = Mikestang

The kittens that my wife was fostering are gone, so I've asked one of our other cats for his guess. Here it is:

+3.1 = edonkey

I would love for them to do a small release say for 5 or 6 days then stop sales until after the 1/2 ing.

+1.0 = ATguy



3 weeks is not much, I preffer to wait and reconsider after halving whether I can ROI fast with the S9.

Just cause I am curious, why would you want a "limited Batch" with a two week sales suspension following?

More to the point though, why would Bitmain want that?

We likely will never know, there could be several possible options.  Likely could be they have limited amount of chips, so trying to spread amount out where 1 customer does not own them all.    You can go to more paranoid ones like they are might be using rest to fill internal mines, or filling a big order.   Or could be so no bulk discounts for first adopters.  I mean we could go on and on.  But we likely will not know real reason.

Mining is going to get interesting though, the S9 is looking like a heck of a machine looking at specs. Competition will have to try to catch up now I would guess.

picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty



Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,869,689,710 (-0.22%)

Adjust time:   After 1086 Blocks, About 7.8 days  >>>>we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,391,748,933 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   10:5 (3.5 minutes ago)









-2.5  =  Lindin99
-2.0 = HagsFinn
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good

+0.7 = Mikestang

+1.0 = ATguy

+2.1 = petahashminer

+3.1 = edonkey
+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb
+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin
+4.6 = wpt1wpt1
+5.5 = vapourminer

They may offer these on hashnest and not sell many via batches.

Well to quote:

" BITMAIN ANTMINER S9,the World's Most Power-Efficient Bitcoin Miner

Price and discount: Retail price is $2100 per unit excluding shipping cost.

There is a maximum limit of 5 units per user for the first batch. This means that a user cannot order more than 5pcs S9 miner.

The first batch of S9 miner is available only in limited quantity so there are no bulk-order discounts.  "
            https://i.imgur.com/j6kQi1j.png

+0.3 = ingiltere

S9's are coming, Bitcoin price is rising. Let's see how it goes now.

+0.1 = talks_cheep

picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty



Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,869,689,710 (-0.22%)

Adjust time:   After 1086 Blocks, About 7.8 days  >>>>we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,391,748,933 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   10:5 (3.5 minutes ago)









-2.5  =  Lindin99
-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.


0.0 = adaseb

+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good

+0.3 = ingiltere

+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang

+1.0 = ATguy

+2.1 = petahashminer

+3.1 = edonkey
+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb
+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin
+4.6 = wpt1wpt1
+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin
+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank

+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin

-2.2 = slastar

diff still going down and down, strange.. is it the signal of the incoming price drop? or they just plugged off the s5- and s7s?

+1.3 = blindminer

On pick
-1.9 = Notlist3d

Thanks



Bitwisdom looks pretty nice currently:
Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    196,333,086,884 (-1.49%)
Adjust time:    After 967 Blocks, About 7.0 days
Hashrate(?):    1,335,825,429 GH/s

- 0.4 = testerman

Ppicks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   196,861,365,999 (-1.23%)

Adjust time:   After 952 Blocks, About 6.9 days >>>>> we have 236 blocks til 716  picks end then
Hashrate(?):   1,368,076,867 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.3 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   12:5 (1.5 minutes ago)



-2.5 = Lindin99
-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.4 = testerman

0.0 = adaseb

+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere

+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang

+1.0 = ATguy

+1.3 = blindminer

+2.1 = petahashminer

+3.1 = edonkey

+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1
+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin
+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank





please proof read your picks  as I did a lot on my iPad yesterday and I most likely have some auto correct errors

Looks like Phil's wish was granted. Bitmain has currently "Greyed Out" the S9 Buy button. No more sales for the moment it would appear. S7's are still available for those that are interested.

Projected difficulty is still negative, but it's had to think it will last for for 7 more days.

This time I'll try 

+ 0.9 = Psi                           

thanks

Ppicks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   196,861,365,999 (-1.23%)

Adjust time:   After 952 Blocks, About 6.9 days >>>>> we have 236 blocks til 716  picks end then
Hashrate(?):   1,368,076,867 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.3 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   12:5 (1.5 minutes ago)



-2.5 = Lindin99
-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.4 = testerman

0.0 = adaseb

+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere

+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy

+1.3 = blindminer

+2.1 = petahashminer

+3.1 = edonkey

+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1
+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin
+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank





please proof read your picks  as I did a lot on my iPad yesterday and I most likely have some auto correct errors

Hashrate mostly under current difficulty, but there is always possibility of new hash to be added before the retarget occurs, thats why I predict around 0 or + increase

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png

+2.2 = Valkir

Look for batch 2 in a few days...

I see no reason why the S9 would be any different than any other Bitmain release. As soon as any new miner is released, the value clock on the hardware starts ticking down. They need to move as many units as they can as fast as they can. The upcoming halving and potential competition from BW (if they ever release anything to the public) could accelerate driving down the S9 price.

It's interesting how people theorize about the big player's strategies, including price/difficulty manipulation, intentional hardware delays, etc. But I think the situation is simpler than that. Hardware manufacturers need to mine early and ship quickly. Any other strategy is risky. You can't be sure that any manipulation attempt will work, and you can't know when a competitor might strike (although I acknowledge that Bitmain has no real competition now, except for maybe BW).

Of course some of this is wishful thinking on my part. I can't bring myself to pay the price Bitmain wants for the S9. But as it comes down, I'll be tempted, as well as others who are currently sitting on the fence.


We may get lucky this period, but when the S9s really start pumping out, it will be as bad or worse than the increases we saw just after the S7.

The power that Bitmain has over the mining market is so irritating. I really hope that some competition materializes...

https://blockchain.info/tx/b8af612b665c50e22d7fac09b69d7a19a714673f0451ab0e2e84e3bd2fd401e4   9.906


https://blockchain.info/tx/800eba8a97d69b360723d36a534626db1e6bb3c7b82db7b39e780a5fb5e1cd54  4.007
https://blockchain.info/tx/6815fe3a880fff73725ac6fbeae17447931b79708c573f165a4a39d5ac6c5151      4.014
https://blockchain.info/tx/007ee4c061744ae9bf9f098fef3d155b23a5d9c70c420317698514a1cad64e68     7.901
https://blockchain.info/tx/00768ea6e10b00b36128cfc371a6c7015f6cc9a19046e4dea50fb55a92947748    3.996
https://blockchain.info/tx/df36110d761329593c6a3eea0a2d491c3e4d346fa8a7c37be3caa3cdab5ba986  18.373
https://blockchain.info/tx/f9b12a49c258461983a50116a0ebca41a0f268cded28c1f45ca6e64861055189   12.799
https://blockchain.info/tx/789d495b8638127dda5cc9223b40a87490a88edcf6cf92592c3793e97aa5fd95   19.808
https://blockchain.info/tx/c6789a6dcd0f8f272b4689c6177f4ee80dff1e58cae5deca0ce9e3b4ccd5a7fe       19.769
https://blockchain.info/tx/1234c695cc1a42f927ba7a2b3eae8f9ac08d487997a0d723390d0ea585f0b8e8     3.996
https://blockchain.info/tx/feb24794abb5272172615b7d1935b8cb446e473e8c38a40d46f9da9c186bfb95     4.012

above was about 160 coins 37 to 40 pieces depends on how many psus purchased

https://blockchain.info/tx/974ec95695346a04174dc60565ebe52ccb28837399c43269d89b51a96921cdf9 19.741
https://blockchain.info/tx/a0a791ae1daacbaeafa3e01968583052810b693faf33191471f614c04540d017     3.995
https://blockchain.info/tx/4f171d5d371cd517b4d8760989a45d3a93f6ef061655a071c09087ed6bf4e772  19.8
https://blockchain.info/tx/d13bded6bb0647d6aab21f44ec9b624da8b1f24be17d46dcf9c2cdf57c3cb4fb      8.63
https://blockchain.info/tx/b411964fbb16d1fd09aa81ddd4093be2b52947f154486e32713f94380cd7d766  7.985
https://blockchain.info/tx/d7cd8aba35b4c0abb6906a75aec6fab391dc399d0d6eedf29b039e3772b70a62  20.616
https://blockchain.info/tx/abf15c65065ce587cc0f96f5efc06b050622d7a687507a75f68af759a20f0479       4.018
https://blockchain.info/tx/7464ee7043c8c0ac3421603b5835d2a78d5122333d1b444bce0ef61c2c80086c   7.917
https://blockchain.info/tx/ed07efe73561e9848e5110ae291d66ca533c9cf2759b6328e60677baccc94bb2     4.5
https://blockchain.info/tx/e59945d6a1bcfdd5b9ae83908fe6f9ac526471eb2fa19c9f1a1899beea998020      7.225
https://blockchain.info/tx/39cad480fe50e8c13cffaab0e4f780a2f59c50493283cabe78bd6b595f8f3417       7.877

I will work on this later today   but section 2 is 112 coins  about 26 to 28 units   or 63 to 68 units

+0.8 = zebedee

Thanks

Bitwisdom is heading up some:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    198,367,788,490 (-0.47%)
Adjust time:    After 892 Blocks, About 6.4 days
Hashrate(?):    1,373,429,219 GH/s

Value wise coinbase is around 534, so still holding in 530's which is nice to see.  I keep hoping we see another surge in price.  It sure is fun to watch when it does happen.

Picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   196,861,365,999 (-1.23%)

Adjust time:   After 952 Blocks, About 6.9 days >>>>> we have 236 blocks til 716  picks end then
Hashrate(?):   1,368,076,867 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.3 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   12:5 (1.5 minutes ago)



-2.5 = Lindin99
-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.4 = testerman

0.0 = adaseb

+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere

+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.8 = zebedee
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy

+1.3 = blindminer
+1.5 = biodom
+2.1 = petahashminer
+2.2 = Valkir
+3.1 = edonkey

+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1
+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin
+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank





please proof read your picks  as I did a lot on my iPad yesterday and I most likely have some auto correct errors

+1.5 = Biodom

Thanks

My pick should be [insert winning pick here], I can't believe you missed it!

note to self to edit post later so no one notices

;D

Very funny ;D

What a coincidence I chose [winning number here] as well!


or maybe I should pick

-0.7 = ezeminer

+1.9 = NeuroticFish

Thank you


BTW, this is the most interesting lottery I've ever played on, even considering the ones I payed for.
And it's 100% fair.
Big thank you for the idea and for the prizes you pay from your own pocket.

I have a feeling that the difficulty is low now not to scare off any sales of S9. Once they sell a few thousand units, they will turn on the hashpower and difficulty will jump +20%

+1.8 = pogress

I dont think batch 1 of S9 sold so many units, so such huge increase in difficulty should not be next difficulty period

-0.9 = Last of the V8s

thx for this

+1.1 = Lituation

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,201,516,250 (-1.06%)


Adjust time:   After 839 Blocks, About 6.1 days  >>>>>>> we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,347,814,665 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   5:45 (5.3 minutes ago)

+2.5 =pusttiu

+0.4 = wlefever

Complete stab in the dark, but why not eh?

Picks are open!

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   196,861,365,999 (-1.23%)

Adjust time:   After 952 Blocks, About 6.9 days >>>>> we have 236 blocks til 716  picks end then
Hashrate(?):   1,368,076,867 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.3 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   12:5 (1.5 minutes ago)



-2.5 = Lindin99
-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.
-0.9 = Last of the V8s
-0.7 = ezeminer
-0.4 = testerman

0.0 = adaseb

+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere
+0.4 = wlefever
+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.8 = zebedee
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy
+1.1 = Lituation
+1.3 = blindminer
+1.5 = biodom
+1.8 = pogress
+1.9 = NeuroticFish
+2.1 = petahashminer
+2.2 = Valkir

+2.5 =pusttiu
+3.1 = edonkey

+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1
+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin
+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank





please proof read your picks  as I did a lot on my iPad yesterday and I most likely have some auto correct errors


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,201,516,250 (-1.06%)


Adjust time:   After 839 Blocks, About 6.1 days  >>>>>>> we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,347,814,665 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   5:45 (5.3 minutes ago)

latest is below
      V
      V
      V

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,073,990,252 (-0.62%) still okay



Adjust time:   After 782 Blocks, About 5.6 days >>>>>>>  only 66 blocks until 716 get your pick in soon
Hashrate(?):   1,395,936,730 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   15:5 (1.8 minutes ago)

-1.3 = alfacro

+1.4 = Cuidler

Thank you for the fun with this difficulty prediction game.

-0.1 =tlhIlwI

Picks are open!




-2.5 = Lindin99
-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d
-1.3 = alfacro
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.
-0.9 = Last of the V8s
-0.7 = ezeminer
-0.4 = testerman
-0.1 =tlhIlwI
0.0 = adaseb

+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere
+0.4 = wlefever
+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.8 = zebedee
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy
+1.1 = Lituation

+1.3 = blindminer
+1.4 = Cuidler
+1.5 = biodom
+1.8 = pogress
+1.9 = NeuroticFish
+2.1 = petahashminer
+2.2 = Valkir

+2.5 =pusttiu
+3.1 = edonkey

+3.5 = lolxxxx
+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1
+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin
+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank





please proof read your picks  as I did a lot on my iPad yesterday and I most likely have some auto correct errors


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,201,516,250 (-1.06%)


Adjust time:   After 839 Blocks, About 6.1 days  >>>>>>> we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,347,814,665 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   5:45 (5.3 minutes ago)

latest is below
      V
      V
      V

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,073,990,252 (-0.62%) still okay



Adjust time:   After 782 Blocks, About 5.6 days >>>>>>>  only 66 blocks until 716 get your pick in soon
Hashrate(?):   1,395,936,730 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   15:5 (1.8 minutes ago)


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,067,834,758 (-0.62%)

Adjust time:   After 772 Blocks, About 5.5 days   >>>> 56 blocks until 716
Hashrate(?):   1,382,787,607 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   16:45 (4.1 minutes ago)

-0.2 = topiOleg

Picks are open!



-2.5 = Lindin99

-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.3 = alfacro
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.9 = Last of the V8s

-0.7 = ezeminer

-0.4 = testerman

-0.2 = topiOleg
-0.1 =tlhIlwI
0.0 = adaseb
+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere
+0.4 = wlefever
+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.8 = zebedee
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy
+1.1 = Lituation

+1.3 = blindminer
+1.4 = Cuidler
+1.5 = biodom

+1.8 = pogress
+1.9 = NeuroticFish

+2.1 = petahashminer
+2.2 = Valkir

+2.5 =pusttiu

+3.1 = edonkey

+3.5 = lolxxxx

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1

+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin

+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank





please proof read your picks  as I did a lot on my iPad yesterday and I most likely have some auto correct errors


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,201,516,250 (-1.06%)


Adjust time:   After 839 Blocks, About 6.1 days  >>>>>>> we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,347,814,665 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   5:45 (5.3 minutes ago)

latest is below
      V
      V
      V

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,073,990,252 (-0.62%) still okay



Adjust time:   After 782 Blocks, About 5.6 days >>>>>>>  only 66 blocks until 716 get your pick in soon
Hashrate(?):   1,395,936,730 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   15:5 (1.8 minutes ago)


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,067,834,758 (-0.62%)

Adjust time:   After 772 Blocks, About 5.5 days   >>>> 56 blocks until 716
Hashrate(?):   1,382,787,607 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   16:45 (4.1 minutes ago)


Lots of gaps and good numbers to pick!!

-0.6 = HerbPean

Thanks Phil :-)

-0.5 = Kexkey

I wouldn't be surprised to see a big spike during the last hours of this round!

Thanks Phil!

Picks are open!

-2.5 = Lindin99

-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.3 = alfacro
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.9 = Last of the V8s

-0.7 = ezeminer
-0.6 = HerbPean
-0.5 = Kexkey
-0.4 = testerman

-0.2 = topiOleg
-0.1 =tlhIlwI
0.0 = adaseb
+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere
+0.4 = wlefever
+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.8 = zebedee
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy
+1.1 = Lituation

+1.3 = blindminer
+1.4 = Cuidler
+1.5 = biodom

+1.8 = pogress
+1.9 = NeuroticFish

+2.1 = petahashminer
+2.2 = Valkir

+2.5 =pusttiu

+3.1 = edonkey

+3.5 = lolxxxx

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1

+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin

+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank

please proof read your picks  as I did a lot on my iPad yesterday and I most likely have some auto correct errors

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,201,516,250 (-1.06%)


Adjust time:   After 839 Blocks, About 6.1 days  >>>>>>> we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,347,814,665 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   5:45 (5.3 minutes ago)

_______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,073,990,252 (-0.62%) still okay



Adjust time:   After 782 Blocks, About 5.6 days >>>>>>>  only 66 blocks until 716 get your pick in soon
Hashrate(?):   1,395,936,730 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   15:5 (1.8 minutes ago)
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https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,067,834,758 (-0.62%)

Adjust time:   After 772 Blocks, About 5.5 days   >>>> 56 blocks until 716
Hashrate(?):   1,382,787,607 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   16:45 (4.1 minutes ago)

_______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ __


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,119,016,176   (-0.60%)

Adjust time:   After 758 Blocks, About 5.4 days >>>>>>>>  42 blocks to picks closing!
Hashrate(?):   1,362,843,555 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   19:50 (3.7 minutes ago)


Lots of gaps and good numbers to pick!!

I will be extremly happy if we end up with a negative out of it.  I keep wondering if we will see a next gen bump, seems like eventually it would.  But I also wonder how SP and KNC going out will effect hashrate (or of they already have keeping it low now).

Coinbase is almost to hit 340 its 339 and some change.   So value is going up slowly which is nice to see.

+1.2 = tss

So about an Hour to go, and as ever a difficult decision. I am going to gamble on no significant Hash being added and that we will be negative.

-3.0 = RichBC

I am not quite as optimistic as RichBC, but I too am hoping for no huge burst of hash rate in the next 5 days. Assuming no major pump, it's probably just down to variance. In any case, my guess:

-0.8 = alh

It's also quite possible we will end up rolling over again. There's lot's of empty spaces in negative territory. Here's what it looks like now:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    196,981,872,449 (-1.17%)
Adjust time:    After 723 Blocks, About 5.2 days
Hashrate(?):    1,369,609,923 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):    
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.1 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
   
Updated:    1:25 (5.4 minutes ago)

-0.3 = Mike8

Thank you.

lol read the rules pls,

first, your post count and reg date is not suitable for this contest,

second , picks are closed.

Last week my reg date was OK.
And the topic said the picks are open.
However, apologies if I am wrong.

no apology needed  :)

Adjust time:   After 772 Blocks, About 5.5 days   >>>> 56 blocks until 716

we are currently, at remaining 697. blocks. picks are closed at remaining 716. so picks are closed about 3 hours ago.




https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Adjust time:    After 697 Blocks, About 5.0 days

btw it is up to philippa.

Picks are closed.  Since I was sleeping 

 I will cut mike8 some slack, but it does look like he was late.

So if his pick wins I will pay it out and roll over the prize as if he did not pick.

Remember it is for  fun.

Final picks below:

-3.0 = RichBC
-2.5 = Lindin99

-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.3 = alfacro
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.9 = Last of the V8s
-0.8 = alh
-0.7 = ezeminer
-0.6 = HerbPean
-0.5 = Kexkey
-0.4 = testerman
-0.3 = Mike8   -----       last one to pick
-0.2 = topiOleg
-0.1 =tlhIlwI
0.0 = adaseb
+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere
+0.4 = wlefever
+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.8 = zebedee
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy
+1.1 = Lituation

+1.3 = blindminer
+1.4 = Cuidler
+1.5 = biodom

+1.8 = pogress
+1.9 = NeuroticFish

+2.1 = petahashminer
+2.2 = Valkir

+2.5 =pusttiu

+3.1 = edonkey

+3.5 = lolxxxx

+3.9 = VRobb

+4.2 = gnaoui
+4.3 = merelcoin

+4.6 = wpt1wpt1

+5.0 = AM4Bitcoin

+5.5 = vapourminer

+6.1 = fr4nkthetank

please proof read your picks  as I did a lot on my iPad yesterday and I most likely have some auto correct errors

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,201,516,250 (-1.06%)


Adjust time:   After 839 Blocks, About 6.1 days  >>>>>>> we stop picks at 716


Hashrate(?):   1,347,814,665 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   5:45 (5.3 minutes ago)

_______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,073,990,252 (-0.62%) still okay



Adjust time:   After 782 Blocks, About 5.6 days >>>>>>>  only 66 blocks until 716 get your pick in soon
Hashrate(?):   1,395,936,730 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   15:5 (1.8 minutes ago)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,067,834,758 (-0.62%)

Adjust time:   After 772 Blocks, About 5.5 days   >>>> 56 blocks until 716
Hashrate(?):   1,382,787,607 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   16:45 (4.1 minutes ago)

_______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ __


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,119,016,176   (-0.60%)

Adjust time:   After 758 Blocks, About 5.4 days >>>>>>>>  42 blocks to picks closing!
Hashrate(?):   1,362,843,555 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.9 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   19:50 (3.7 minutes ago)

_______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   198,207,478,721 (-0.55%)

Adjust time:   After 693 Blocks, About 4.9 days <<< Picks are closed


Hashrate(?):   1,366,309,219 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.3 minutes
3 blocks: 30.8 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   7:20 (6.0 minutes ago)




Final picks above

Still seeing negatives which is nice,  hopefully we can manage a negative even if small.  I'm a tad bit of jaded and expect positives at this point, but would love to be wrong.

The great thing BTC took another jump up were seeing 572 at coinbase.  So were talking about a gain of around 30 dollars per bitcoin... which is pretty nice little jump.   If we hit 600 I think we will all be very happy.

Yes very nice to see the continued rise in the price and for us in the UK we are now approaching £400 which would be very nice. Who knows what the exact reason is, but I guess some of it is Halving related? Also good to see the continued negative Difficulty, we are Period to Date at -3.81% although as we know if someone throws the switch this could still step up a few notches.

Rich

Really having is biggest thing I can think of.  There is the S9 that I could see people wanting to buy BTC if they did not have any to buy, but I don't think it is the cause of surge we are seeing.  I always thought having would cause effect on price before it happens, as investors know it's coming and it's not like a secret.

I would love to hear other reasons if someone has one besides having and S9 release.  I don't see other big things but it's possible I missed something.

hi philip,  please include me again.  same as before payout if i win to the address you know. thanks

Picks are closed.

And at close bitwisdom still negative which is nice to see.  It is a small negative though but if it is close to this in the end hard to argue:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    198,355,883,467 (-0.48%)
Adjust time:    After 577 Blocks, About 4.1 days
Hashrate(?):    1,366,326,527 GH/s

Coinbase is hitting 580 as I type this post.  So still very positive on price surging upwards. I am surprised it's holding so well honestly but I am happy it is.

So Yesterday another negative Day with -1.39% and 142 Blocks. Period to date Run Rate, 7 Hours in Today, is at -3.84%. So this is either the calm before the Storm or we are in for a nice negative Period? Price is holding nicely, everything in the garden is rosy.....  :)


Rich

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,481,784,206 (-0.92%)

Adjust time:   After 562 Blocks, About 4.1 days
Hashrate(?):   1,355,943,395 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   6:10 (2.3 minutes ago)


Well we have only 562 left  so +6 is max number   if we do 3 days of 187 blocks a day.


the info below may make the garden a bit less rosy

So Phil  it looks like the s-9 will be able to mine on some other pool ,but not on Kano.is

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg15079748#msg15079748

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1493601.msg15079863#msg15079863

I am more interested in a real time diff number reading.

Well I missed out ordering a third s-9 and it is closed, but maybe holding the 3.8 coins is better.

Real time coming up.


414762 (Main Chain)   2016-06-04 15:29:22   current block   33 minutes ago


413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump


1481 blocks made so far


10 days       =  1440

18 hours     =   108

40 minutes  =   4


1552 = 0%


so

1481/1552-1 =   -4.57%      I may have made an error on this number.



https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,509,770,433    (-0.90%)

Adjust time:   After 534 Blocks, About 3.8 days 


Hashrate(?):   1,370,980,852 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.1 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   


right now no one is low enough.



Final picks below:

-3.0 = RichBC
-2.5 = Lindin99

-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

Yes Today so far is a slow Day and we are going more negative, my spreadsheet also showing Period to Date at -4.57%. And I thought that my -3% was a bit ambitious... However as we know the hash Rate can turn on a Sixpence Dime.


Rich

Nice to keep hearing the negative numbers.  Sadly we lost a tad bit of value gained yesterday on coinbase.  It was hitting around 580 but dropped to around 567 right now.  So drop could have been much worse.  But I really would love to see a 600 something number before having.  Which I think is realistic and not to far off.

Still negative on bitwisdom to:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    197,020,559,256 (-1.15%)
Adjust time:    After 525 Blocks, About 3.8 days
Hashrate(?):    1,365,716,695 GH/s

I have sold off 3 and ½ avalon 6's

I was going to sell everything  from the array.

3 avalon6s are left.
2 s-7's
2 sp20's
 1 s-5

with the negative diff approaching prices over 560 and the s-9 having at least 2 pool restrictions  I stopped the sales of the rest of the gear.

I think I will mine that gear a bit.

So the negative trend continues with Yesterday being the slowest Day yet this Period at -17.36% and 119 Blocks. Things have however picked up this Morning pulling the Period to Date Run Rate which closed at -5% last night up to -4.25%. So about 3 Days left to run let's see what happens Today?


Rich

coinbase is up to 578 usd

maybe we pass 600

Yes I am liking this rise a lot, in particular if you look at the closing price for the last couple of Weeks and ignore the intra Day Highs then nearly all Days are up with only tiny pullbacks.

http://www.slotforum.com/forums/uploads/1464824338/gallery_2150_2322_17324.jpg (http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?autocom=gallery&req=si&img=99617)

On this Period Difficulty I think some hash may have been added this Morning, if it continues this is going to be a big Day and the Period to Date rate has now pushed up to -3.81%


Rich

122 blocks made today in 16 hours and 26 minutes.

the spike is back!

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png

a reference screen shot


https://i.imgur.com/0AaZClJ.png


I would have preferred they wait a bit longer as I really wanted a -2 for the jump not a plus 1.

At least coins are 579 at coinbase.

Looks like we could possibly end up on the positive side.....   >:(

Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    197,791,049,361 (-0.76%)
Adjust time:    After 291 Blocks, About 2.0 days
Hashrate(?):    1,434,153,477 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):    
1 block: 10.1 minutes
3 blocks: 30.3 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
   
Updated:    23:55 (5.8 minutes ago)

Even with a small positive I still consider that a win by far.   With S9's being announced not seeing a huge increase... does not seem to bad.  Also take into account Bitcoin value seems to be on a steady rate up.

On coinbase we have crossed 580 with 581 and some change.  So I keep thinking 600 is possible in next few difficulty changes... which is a pretty nice jump from the 400's.

So the Hash Rate stayed up Yesterday giving us +18.06% with 170 Blocks. It's still high so far this Morning and the Period to Date Run Rate now sits at -2.76%. If it stays at the current rate until the end of the Period I think we will land around Zero.

Price looking good with another positive Day Yesterday and we have this Morning just crossed £400, which is very nice.  :)


Rich

https://blockchain.info/blocks

415069 (Main Chain)    2016-06-06 12:59:28   current block

413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump


1788 blocks made

12 days      =  1728
15 hours     =     90
40 minutes  =      4

1822 = 0%

1788/1822-1 =   -1.866081229418%  real time number


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,811,881,578 (-0.75%)
Adjust time:   After 227 Blocks, About 1.6 days
Hashrate(?):   1,488,069,951 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.9 minutes
3 blocks: 29.9 minutes
6 blocks: 59.7 minutes
Updated:   



we have 227 blocks to go   and we are 34 blocks under 0%    so  a big finish could get us as high as +1.5%.


so if you have a pick from -3 to + 2  you could win as of now.

If my -1.2 comes in it is a rollover.
I think everyone below can still win.

-3.0 = RichBC
-2.5 = Lindin99

-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.3 = alfacro
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.9 = Last of the V8s
-0.8 = alh
-0.7 = ezeminer
-0.6 = HerbPean
-0.5 = Kexkey
-0.4 = testerman
-0.3 = Mike8   -----       last one to pick
-0.2 = topiOleg
-0.1 =tlhIlwI
0.0 = adaseb
+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere
+0.4 = wlefever
+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.8 = zebedee
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy
+1.1 = Lituation

+1.3 = blindminer
+1.4 = Cuidler
+1.5 = biodom

+1.8 = pogress
+1.9 = NeuroticFish


At this point the spike is

huge:

 http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png

Soooooo the big guns are out now.

Looks like they didn't throw all of it before the next diff.

http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/hashrate/7d?c=m&t=a

check that out.. So it looks to me at quick glance that bitfury has a ton more hash then first thought.. Looks like their farm went down by looking at their hash rate over last couple days.> So that leaves me to believe that bitfury has well over 500 peta. maybe more..  sure is funny that all the pools dropped when bitfury fell off the map.

Best Regards
d57heinz

it looks like, btc difficulty skyrocketing like the previous adjustment, i think they are pulling off some machines while they are turning on new equipments.

Gear is turning back on, looks like "they" are aiming for another ~level adjustment period.  I think we'll be about like this until the halving as the big guns swap out all the old gear for new.

I really want to see the hashing number after having.  I think there are some machines like A1's, and such that have been hanging around on very low priced electricity.  I think having we could lose some gear (which is good as far as those who have newer gear).  Guess we have to wait and see.

The BTC price right now is around 583 so a little increase from yesterday but not the surge I was hoping.

So we ripped a 170 block day


415139 (Main Chain)   2016-06-06 23:56:20

414970 (Main Chain)   2016-06-06 00:05:41

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531


Estimated Next Difficulty:   197,379,455,917 (-0.97%)


Adjust time:   After 139 Blocks, About 23.2 hours >>> more like 21 hours

Hashrate(?):   1,506,342,343 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 30.0 minutes
6 blocks: 60.0 minutes
Updated:   22:55 (35.0 seconds ago)



If we keep that pace of 170 blocks a day we will finish near +1
 

but look that spike is dropping again


http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png

a screenshot of the chart below  this shows the older spike

https://i.imgur.com/0AaZClJ.png

We also gained value today which is good coinbase is currently 590.  So gaining around 7 dollars or so in a day not bad.  Were inching closer and closer to the 600 number.  I am worried a little bit that there could be some sell walls keeping 600 down for a bit.  But time will tell.

Overall this is looking like it will be a good difficulty period.  On the 25th we were around 450 so that is around 40 dollars in added value in one period.  If we get that with a small negative or even small positive that is a great period in my book.

So we have had two big Days, both coincidently with +18.06% and 170 Blocks.... The rate this Morning has however pulled back a bit and it looks like we will coast to the finish line sometime either late Today or more likely early Tomorrow, probably in the -1% to -2% region?.

Another positive Day for the coin, making it 6 in a row, continuing the steady climb up.


Rich

If I win I will not roll it over.

If my -1.2 comes in it is a rollover.


I think everyone below can still win.

-3.0 = RichBC
-2.5 = Lindin99

-2.2 = slastar

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.3 = alfacro
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.9 = Last of the V8s
-0.8 = alh
-0.7 = ezeminer
-0.6 = HerbPean
-0.5 = Kexkey
-0.4 = testerman
-0.3 = Mike8   -----       last one to pick
-0.2 = topiOleg
-0.1 =tlhIlwI
0.0 = adaseb
+0.1 = talks_cheap
+0.2 = albertamining  note you have 33 post and your start date is good
+0.3 = ingiltere
+0.4 = wlefever
+0.5 = veves
+0.6 = Erumara
+0.7 = Mikestang
+0.8 = zebedee
+0.9 = Psi
+1.0 = ATguy
+1.1 = Lituation


@ Last of the V8s  very funny ;D ;D
We have a nice muscle car show in Howell, NJ every other sunday  I think I will take some photos.



https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   195,453,322,945 (-1.94%)
Adjust time:   After 83 Blocks, About 13.9 hours


Hashrate(?):   1,464,824,541 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.1 minutes
3 blocks: 30.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   10:50 (4.2 minutes ago)


Maybe during The Late Night show  on the east coast.  We look to be a negative number yeah!

as the spike is gone


http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-thumbnail.png

price dropped to 576 usd on coinbase.

Looks like the engine just started again and harder then the first time.

well at least we do not have enough time to go real high this jump.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:   196,123,649,812 (-1.60%)
Adjust time:   After 41 Blocks, About 6.8 hours
Hashrate(?):   1,516,614,856 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.0 minutes
3 blocks: 29.9 minutes
6 blocks: 59.9 minutes
Updated:


   https://blockchain.info/blocks


415255 (Main Chain)   2016-06-07 20:17:32   current block
413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump

so in order to reach positive we have to do 40 blocks in an hour
so the winner should be from the group below

-2.0 = HagssFIN
-1.9 = Notlist3d

-1.3 = alfacro
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.9 = Last of the V8s
-0.8 = alh
-0.7 = ezeminer
-0.6 = HerbPean
-0.5 = Kexkey
-0.4 = testerman
-0.3 = Mike8   -----       last one to pick
-0.2 = topiOleg
-0.1 =tlhIlwI
0.0 = adaseb

this is the closest I have ever been with my constant pick of   -1.2.

Looks like it is gaining a little bit still in just a few hours but still negative which is great:

Bitcoin Difficulty:    199,312,067,531
Estimated Next Difficulty:    196,245,122,976 (-1.54%)
Adjust time:    After 30 Blocks, About 4.9 hours
Hashrate(?):    1,526,947,373 GH/s

Price on coinbase coming in around 579 so pretty good there to.   I hope next period is as good as this one as are rise in value and no hug hashrate bump.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   196,611,298,316 (-1.36%)
Adjust time:   After 21 Blocks, About 3.4 hours


Hashrate(?):   1,543,168,079 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.8 minutes
3 blocks: 29.5 minutes
6 blocks: 59.0 minutes
Updated:   19:10 (4.8 minutes ago)


We are certain to be negative. yeah!

the ones below are closest to a win

   

-1.3 = alfacro
-1.2 = philipma1957  if I win I will roll it over.

-0.9 = Last of the V8s
-0.8 = alh
-0.7 = ezeminer
-0.6 = HerbPean


this is the closest I have ever been with my constant pick of   -1.2.

I have to wonder if this in intentional difficulty manipulation, or just coincidence.  It keeps happening, but seems to be even more pronounced lately.  If it is possible to control the network difficulty without a 51% style attack, then I don't think the future of Bitcoin is very bright.

I just don't see a 51 percent attack happening by anyone related to bitcoin.  It would be a huge scandal and lose who know's how much value on BTC price.  So if someone has 51 percent... they would be losing money long term to preform it.  It would hurt them long term so cant imagine big company doing it.

So if being manipulated I don't think it is for attack.   It would be other reasons which would all be speculation.

this is a case of bitmaintech prepping for the ½ ing.

they are in a funny spot as they have too much power and are not quite sure what to do with it.

I believe they can build 2000ph anytime they want to.  

not only can they build it they can do it at a lower cost then people think.

the problem is they are stuck behind the firewall of China and don't want big block size.

that limits transactions.  which means btc could be a dead end. with the ½ing  or the next one.

or (my hope)  btc acts like a high way for eth coin  .   and eth coin does tons of transactions and is converted to btc.



the transaction value of btc is becoming pretty worthless  as it is not that cheap  and you can't make 1,000,000 an hour.

almost done with blocks now.


https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty


Bitcoin Difficulty:   199,312,067,531

Estimated Next Difficulty:   196,068,533,889 (-1.63%)
Adjust time:   After 2 Blocks, About 19.6 minutes


Hashrate(?):   1,549,274,676 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.8 minutes
3 blocks: 29.4 minutes
6 blocks: 58.8 minutes
Updated:   22:35 (4.1 minutes ago)


and we just ripped 5 blocks in 2 minutes

I need to see the official number   but no one hit it.

415297 (Main Chain)   2016-06-08 02:44:25  last block
413282 (Main Chain)   2016-05-24 21:23:04  this was first one of this jump

so 14 days is normal time

14 days  = 2016
  5 hours =    30
 20 minute =    2    

2048

2016/2048 -1 =  -1.5625%

196,061,423.940/199,312,067,531-1 =  -1.630931649683%




rollover  link to new thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1503062.new#new

https://blockchain.info/tx/b8af612b665c50e22d7fac09b69d7a19a714673f0451ab0e2e84e3bd2fd401e4   9.906


https://blockchain.info/tx/800eba8a97d69b360723d36a534626db1e6bb3c7b82db7b39e780a5fb5e1cd54  4.007
https://blockchain.info/tx/6815fe3a880fff73725ac6fbeae17447931b79708c573f165a4a39d5ac6c5151      4.014
https://blockchain.info/tx/007ee4c061744ae9bf9f098fef3d155b23a5d9c70c420317698514a1cad64e68     7.901
https://blockchain.info/tx/00768ea6e10b00b36128cfc371a6c7015f6cc9a19046e4dea50fb55a92947748    3.996
https://blockchain.info/tx/df36110d761329593c6a3eea0a2d491c3e4d346fa8a7c37be3caa3cdab5ba986  18.373
https://blockchain.info/tx/f9b12a49c258461983a50116a0ebca41a0f268cded28c1f45ca6e64861055189   12.799
https://blockchain.info/tx/789d495b8638127dda5cc9223b40a87490a88edcf6cf92592c3793e97aa5fd95   19.808
https://blockchain.info/tx/c6789a6dcd0f8f272b4689c6177f4ee80dff1e58cae5deca0ce9e3b4ccd5a7fe       19.769
https://blockchain.info/tx/1234c695cc1a42f927ba7a2b3eae8f9ac08d487997a0d723390d0ea585f0b8e8     3.996
https://blockchain.info/tx/feb24794abb5272172615b7d1935b8cb446e473e8c38a40d46f9da9c186bfb95     4.012

above was about 160 coins 37 to 40 pieces depends on how many psus purchased

https://blockchain.info/tx/974ec95695346a04174dc60565ebe52ccb28837399c43269d89b51a96921cdf9 19.741
https://blockchain.info/tx/a0a791ae1daacbaeafa3e01968583052810b693faf33191471f614c04540d017     3.995
https://blockchain.info/tx/4f171d5d371cd517b4d8760989a45d3a93f6ef061655a071c09087ed6bf4e772  19.8
https://blockchain.info/tx/d13bded6bb0647d6aab21f44ec9b624da8b1f24be17d46dcf9c2cdf57c3cb4fb      8.63
https://blockchain.info/tx/b411964fbb16d1fd09aa81ddd4093be2b52947f154486e32713f94380cd7d766  7.985
https://blockchain.info/tx/d7cd8aba35b4c0abb6906a75aec6fab391dc399d0d6eedf29b039e3772b70a62  20.616
https://blockchain.info/tx/abf15c65065ce587cc0f96f5efc06b050622d7a687507a75f68af759a20f0479       4.018
https://blockchain.info/tx/7464ee7043c8c0ac3421603b5835d2a78d5122333d1b444bce0ef61c2c80086c   7.917
https://blockchain.info/tx/ed07efe73561e9848e5110ae291d66ca533c9cf2759b6328e60677baccc94bb2     4.5
https://blockchain.info/tx/e59945d6a1bcfdd5b9ae83908fe6f9ac526471eb2fa19c9f1a1899beea998020      7.225
https://blockchain.info/tx/39cad480fe50e8c13cffaab0e4f780a2f59c50493283cabe78bd6b595f8f3417       7.877

I will work on this later today   but section 2 is 112 coins  about 26 to 28 units   or 63 to 68 units