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Hello people. I am in a bit of a pickle here and hope that some of you here can give me some simple investment advice.

First, my parents gave me $90,000 to purchase some inventory for my dropshipping operation. But, instead, I spent the whole thing on bitcoin. Made maybe 20% profit, and thats when things started to get a little "freaky" if you will.

As soon as I had 240 BTC in my possession I felt invincible, for some reason I thought that I could just go and buy any altcoin I wanted and make all the money that I desired.

My parents have been thinking that my dropshipping business is booming because I have bought a hundred empty boxes, filled them with bricks and sellotaped them. Every morning I make a fake trip to the post office so that they think that I am still on track like I am supposed to be.

Anyway.. I worked my 240 btc up to 300 btc by what I think was a fluke. I invested in some currency that we all know, but then the price began to drop. AND I KEPT BUYING

I sat there in my chair every day looking at the price fall, and like a fool I continued to buy. Now all I have is 30 btc which is merely 10% of the money my parents gave me.

I cant even use this money to buy and flip the latest mercedes sedan to make maybe $2k with each flip. So now, I'm stuck. The garage has 50 boxes with bricks inside them, and everyday my dad goes in there I feel like my secret will be uncovered and that will be IT for me.

I am supposed to return this 90K before July, so I am coming here for help and advice.

I want to know how can I turn 30 BTC into 300 BTC by ONLY doing these things:

1) Investing in crypto currencies

2) Not having to trade

3) Not having to spend too much time monitoring my investment (I have to pretend that my dropshipping business is still booming, so can't be in the house all day)

4) Not being a victim of pump and dump

Just throw out your ideas here and I'll see what sticks.

Guys, I am in urgent need of help here. If I don't give my parents their money back, they'll never give me money again and I'll have to get a job or something to fund my businesses. Which is impossible for me since I get panic attacks etc.

If I had just done the right thing, I would have doubled the 90K and be smiling right now. But instead, I played bitcoin roulette and fucked everything up

I will appreciate all of your contributions

thank you

If there were ways of doing this without investing, trading, spending time or risk being a victim, i guess everybody would be doing it, right? You're not talking about making 2% profit in 1 year, you're talking about 1000% in 2 months...

In your case, i think you'll have to take a very easy decission:
Either:

1) confess to your parents what you've done
2) take a loan, pay your parents back, get an IRL job to pay back your loan.

Quite candid and Hilarius post

Just tell them you're a fuck up and you squandered their 90 grand, what's the worse that could happen? LOL

You need to stop trading IMMEDIATELY that is for sure. You obviously don't know what you're doing. But at least you've got those 30 coins, that's like 13 grand. That's enough to move to a new city, change your name and "start all over again" :D

Sorry dude I'm not a fan of sugarcoating things, so if this is a TRUE story then u gotta realize that u're
1. extremely stupid
2. can't handle money at all
3. have a bad relationship with ur parents cuz u're lying

Reconsider ur life. U needed this utter crash.

~CfA~

Yes 1000% is exactly what I need to make in 2 months, or else I am fucked.

I need $250,000 per year just to exist comfortably. That includes 1 year rent already paid, 1 year bills and all utilities already budgeted and paid for. Money for groceries for the full year and money for fuel and to make car payments. $20,000 disposable cash and $140,000 to put into purchasing inventory for my dropshipping business each year - so that I'll have another $250,000 the following year

I am only at my parents house now because I fucked up previously with purchasing $140K worth of bitcoin that I accidentally got sent to an address that was on the now defunct cryptorush exchange.

So this is not the first time

I can't tell my parents or get a loan, those routes have been exhausted

You say it's impossible, but that "impossibility" doesn't matter to me. I need to make 1000% on my money in two months. Or else im screwed


I didn't squander it actually, and that is very harsh.

I invested it and messed up a little and I initally made money, but got a little greedy now here I am



Maybe you're right I have only lost money trading all these god damned altcoins

I always start of making some ridiculously large amount like 50 btc but then losing an even larger amount like 100 btc so maybe you have a point there

I cannot run away, my family have helped me so I must repay them. Even if I have no profit for the year, I will give it all to them

I have just 30 BTC and I know there is a way for me to make 1000% because it seems many people here are doing just that

U're f'ed no matter what, cuz ur personality is flawed

Work on urself. This thread won't help the slightest bit

~CfA~

You're not going to be able to turnover 1000% in two months. If it was possible in a simple-to-convey algorithm then everyone would be doing it.

You might be able to perform 200% or 400% in 6-12 months, but it's dependent on (1) you having a viscerally good understanding of the markets, and (2) you allowing for a component of risk (i.e further losses).

If you absolutely must take the kamikaze option, then I would at least wait until after the bitcoin halving.

No more running away possible at this point. U have no choice but to face what u are.

~CfA~

1. Take responsability for your actions and admit your failure.
2. Get on 1broker.com
3. Place a 50x margin short on the sp500 or dow jones index with all 30 btc NOW! (or bet on BTC going up)
4. Exit at  16% lower than it is now, you will have 300 btc by then it is also the maximum amount you can place.

The global economy is in turmoil, there is a high chance this will happen.

You can tip me BTC:
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I'm pretty sure that anybody who would turn 30BTC into 300BTC in two months either:

• scammed, lied, blackmailed, extorted, hacked everybody and anybody, including their own mother and her pets
• already invested tons and tons of coins, and now make a nice profit from their previous huuuuuuge investments
• took insane risks with their coins

I haven't investigated, but i cannot imagine other situations where somebody could make 1000% profit on 30BTC in two months...
Somebody might have had 0.05BTC and made 0.5BTC in a couple of days playing dice, but i would defenately advise against doing this with your last funds.

Anyways: good luck!

I am an unconfident, slightly retarded speculator/investor/business man - so yes, my personality is flawed

sometimes we lose money, that is business. If I had continued profiting, I'd have more than 200% on my money, I made more than 20% so I am a fearless investor... stupid, but fearless. Maybe too fearless

And if I had a broken leg I'd NEED to get to a hospital.

I don't have a broken leg... but I do have a broken investment fund, which means I need too make 1000% before july. Maybe some altcoin developers can reveal some secrets here?


My skills are in investment and business only. No programming, I dont know html even. I also get panic attacks when I am around too many people. So not practical for me



I should fix my trading losses, by trading even more?


Is this the secret of all you developers? Is that where you people go to produce your shitcoins?

I have morals, I dont care If I'll make 1000 btc from them. Pump and dumping isn't my thing

Yes it's that easy... Sure... ROFL



If u need someone to tell u that this is not going to happen then u've come to the right place.

It's 100% not gonna happen. This is the best and most honest comment u will get out of this thread.

~CfA~

So basically you want to make a 10x profit doing nothing? Good luck.

Don't lose all your money in chase for some fortune. First you say you have work and you don't wish to monitor your investment, and now that you are fucked if you don't make money ( see comment above).

Its not a good plan, believe me. Ophion coin had nice coming in, campaign, official thread, fast support... And what happened? Guy run away with 17 bitcoins.
What op think what will happen with his 30 btc?
I can suggest couple coins where I invested some money, but I'm afraid to do that. For me it is fun, when I make something I'm happy, if I lose nothing. But with this amount of money its not fun at all.
I wish you luck, and my advice for you is "don't put all money on one coin!!!"

you seem to be loaded of cash anyway but you are unable to handle it, you should get someone to manage your finances and stop trading by yourself

This is easily the most idiotic recommendation I've read on Bitcointalk to this date. Congratulations dude!

I'm not sure where you live, but if you really think you need $110,000 in cash (plus $140K in inventory) to live, I'd start by re-thinking your lifestyle a little bit.

Frankly, I think that most people reading this post will not be predisposed to feeling very sorry for you.  Your initial questions show just a little bit of a disconnect from the reality that most people face, which is to cut back on some expenses in order to invest/speculate in crypto.  Most people don't even have parents that COULD POSSIBLY give them $90,000 in cash for any reason at all.

The post indicates that you might have some life lessons to learn.  Seems like you might have already learned them, but fortunately or unfortunately, your parents have been massive enablers for you.  I'd say either:

1) your parents are effin' ballers who have a shitpile of money and they will bail you out AGAIN just because they can
2)  you really have exhausted all paths and you are just about to really learn those life lessons that you seem to need to learn
3)  Quite possibly, your original post is some kind of parody and you are completely full of shit

But you are highly unlikely to turn 30 into 300.  Just won't happen for you.  Because you haven't faced much adversity, financially, you appear to have the ability to cling to a fantasy.

I hope this doesn't come off too harshly and I certainly hope for the best for you.  

Do you know any investment managers that specialise in bitcoin/altcoins? I am not bad with money, most of the money I have made in the past came from me being a reckless idiot. But most of the money I have lost has also happened due to me being a reckless idiot too


Interesting point, apart from your insults. I'm just a normal guy like everyone else here man... It really is alot for me to post all of this here

I have morals and I don't think it's cool to "dump" on people


I have faced LOADS of adversity man. This dropshipping operation is the latest in a LOOONG line of businesses. You really don't understand the magnitutde of the situation.

The only way I am able to exist as a human being, from a financial standpoint, is because I understand that investment comes before spending. So I have put myself in such an awkward position.

I have four younger cousins that operate a physical electronics outlet.. supplied by whom??? You guessed it! Me. But... I am about 90K short of being able to supply myself let alone my family members who have built there lives around this operation. They have their apartments, cars etc. They don't even know that I'm back at my parents place. All of them dropped out of college to get involved with this

If I don't turn this 30 BTC into 300 BTC before a months time, I might aswell drink cyanide man. It's that bad

U need to know that nifty boys like OP can't handle sugarcoating things.

They need the full force experience to get it. Sorry. It's over for him and it will take a while to grasp that.

~CfA~

Your post is typical trolling. I dont believe in one word of it. Post tx of any of your transactions from that wallet of 90K and we have starting point.
You clearly stupid and spoiled so no not surprising that no one helps.

Beside if you was in possesion of that cash you would do opposite and probably you would have 120k instead of 90k.

I think because you not handling well cash i suggest put all 30btc on hi or low and hope for the best outcome. If you loose nothing will happen as you have nothing , if you win taaddaa and you have 60btc and start to make more.

You're not investing anything, what you're doing is called gambling. If you gamble with money you can't afford to lose or you can't stop gambling then you have a problem.

Even if you were to magically turn that 30 BTC into 300, you'd fuck it up again eventually because you're completely lost touch with reality.
If you don't see that now then you might see it once you're life eventually hits rock bottom when all the lies uncover, people stop trusting you and you go broke.

Then you might realize your errors which will hopefully make you a better person or you'll keep being an irresponsible dumbass.

Buy IOTA with this 30 BTC, sell when they reach 300 BTC or wait until more, will be in exchanges soon.

I am not spoiled man. The only reason my parents give me money is because they believe I'm an investment whizz. They dont give me money to splash, only to invest.


You're right. I only have 30 btc left. Not exactly peasant territory, but I certainly can't say that I only have 30 btc to my name in public. My image would be destroyed, my investors will become disenchanted and my parents will lose all trust in me

my ability to make money will be tainted somewhat


What do you get out of being so mean?

It's never over, I have lost money in the past and bounced back and I am sure i can do it again. All I need is some helpfull pointers from you guys


Investment is gambling

Appreciate your opinion... harsh.. but not as harsh as what my family will say if I fail to return their money


Your saying that there is a difference between developing and trading an alt? How so?

How do developers make their money and is it more or less than the amounts that traders/investors make?

a 10x gain is really high... high yield high risk... I think you should limit your target, or maybe try a lower performance. For example buy a gambling site and you can try to get more of you invested, or try to create some website by your self!

I'm not mean, just sharing life experience. U're not the first of that kind I've seen.

First they try to bath themselves in delusion that they'll get out of their extreme failure before the real crash comes

U asked for help here so I give u help. I don't sugarcoat cuz that won't help anything

If u're telling the truth here (u most likely don't if u're even lying in ur parents face on a daily basis and are not a troll) and want to do something then accept the truth and change ur life. There is no real alternative. U can only run away for so long. This time u're at the end of the path.

I'm also not sorry for you at all. Sorry about that. How many more chances do you want? You've had enough.

~CfA~

very good thread to have the shady ppl exposed

U'll enjoy red trust on ur profile very shortly my nifty boy

~CfA~

That's one thing where I will draw the line at. Pumping an dumping is not my thing, I have said that a few times already. Karmically I'm sure there'd be consequences.

I am surprised that no one here has any solutions.

All I have seen is 1) stop trading, join the pumpers 2) trade even more to make back your losses 3) it's impossible

There must be some more solutions out there that you guys are holding out on

Maybe you dont want to say it publicly, you can pm me if this is the case. If your idea makes sense, I can gain access to loads more money and maybe we can hit the market hard and see what happens

I am in urgent need of assistance here, seriously. 30 BTC is not adequate enough for me, it is a mere 10% of what was lent to me and the time is coming now for me to deliver "returns" to my parents. 30 BTC is not enough, this is suicide money because it's better for me to jump off a bridge than to admit to these losses

Today I made another fake journey to the post office, and the most disgusting thing about this is eventually I am going to run out of petty cash to pay for fuel for my car to continue making these fake journeys

I drive around 12 hours a day all over the city so that my parents will think that business is booming

Dire straits here guys, I need some of you wealthy lurkers to make some posts here and point me in the right direction

NO i will no join the pumpers

I will only engage in ethical ventures

Since I personally think you are trolling big time in here, here is my last resource for your small left coins. I have a free tips thread in the gambling section of this forum with very much high accuracy rate, have started since february and I am still in profit and all of those who followed me.   ;)
You can try your luck with my tips for this left coins, its better than trading :)


On  a serious note, thats quite impossible to turn 30 into 300 BTC in just 2 months time.

Said every altcoin trader after his first year in crypto :D

Dude, if you are not trolling you need to get a grip.  Listen vuduchyld, From Above and bathrobehero. 
While there can be a fine line between investment, speculation and gambling, you are obviously just gambling with your money.  That would be ok if it was money you could miss, but you decided to gamble away other people's money.  Please stop telling yourself you are a savvy investor. In this thread you are almost asking to be scammed (" am desperate, give me tips to get unrealistic gains quickly" --> seriously dog?  Prepare for the nigerian princes to start sending you personal messages about their favorite little coin).  Stop throwing away the money of the people around you.  The most likely scenario is that you will keep trying to weasel your way out of this mess, but end up completely broke.  The chances of getting back that money are very slim, but since you are a degenerate gambler, you'll probably play those bad odds anyway.  Please don't.  Be a man and face reality before you hit the absolute rock bottom.

If only it was that easy we would all be sitting pretty with no need to work.  If you find a way share it with the rest of us so we can join you on a sunny beach somewhere.

Serious note, cut your losses and just learn from the mistake and be happy you are left with something.

Nobody can make 1000% in 2 months, not even the professional investors. Sell your losing alts, and get a job. Then perhaps you stand a chance of earning back the money you lost.

Its easy, create your own project with a nifty New age name,  turn it into an ICO with a ton of promises about the future, usea ll that you have left to buy into your own ICO (dont worry you get all that BTC back)  use the ICO money to pump your coin, while selling into the suckers that believe its gonna be the Next BTC.

No one in my family has been an employee before, this isn't something that I'd be able to explore. I dont think I will earn enough to cover even my 5 year xbox live subscription with "a job."

I have already sold out of all my positions, all I am holding onto is 30 BTC. I am writing this post while sitting in my car in the parking lot of walmart. My parents think I am out meeting with potential investors and new suppliers.


I don't know what impression you're getting of me but, believe me, it is the most reckless investors that make the most money. All that has happened here is I got a little too carried away and lost 90% of my holdings. This really isn't a big deal for me as I have done stuff like this in the past and each time I have bounced back... I am a member of 7 other investment based forums, I have pledged this question on all of them today and it seems this community is maybe the most negative

1000% returns are not impossible, I got more than this in 2013 with bitcoin/usd alone. What I am asking for today is for one of you wealthy lurkers that only have 4 posts that is reading this very post and laughing your ass off at my shambles of an investment career, to reveal your secrets and let me know how to generate a 10x return within the next month. That is all


Everyone keeps saying this, is it really that easy?


I have just seen their video https://vimeo.com/160515653 it seems to me that it isn't actually pump and dump that they do, more market making stuff which is just a wall street term for pump and dump lol

Will they service me even though I only have 30 btc?


 

Do this, and this alone. It has nothing to do with bitcoin. But it will make you quite wealthy in short order.

Find an airport near you that has a Rolex Boutique. Go to that Boutique, and then buy 10 Rolex Datejust watches. They will all be duty free + you will get a severe discount because you're buying in bulk.

Now, here is where the magic happens.

Let's say each watch averages out at the price of $4,000 - this would be only £2,717 in GBP.

BUT, there is a uk based website known as Gumtree where I used to sell this exact model at £4,500 (sometimes higher.) Because all of my watches were brand new, still in the box, certificate, receipt etc so there was no haggling. Each and every person paid me my £4,500 even though I only spent $4,000 per watch (£2,717)

This is a £2,000 profit per watch. £2,000 * 10 = £20,000 ($29,434 usd) - a near 100% return per sale

Do this a few times before the end of the year and you'll have made your $90,000 in no time

All you need is an agent in the UK to conduct the sales. You're already in the dropshipping game, so this should be a simple thing. Or you can perhaps take a trip to the UK yourself stay there for the rest of the year, and let the money pile in

30btc -> simplefx -> long gold on max leverage right now, close around 1290.
Profit about 150 coins.

150 btc -> simplefx -> short gold max leverage at 1295 close around 1220.
profit 660btc

Should be done by the end of summer.

This is what I do professionally, but I am looking for something that isn't physical and doesn't involve me "jumping on a plane" and moving to london for 6 months with only 20 cents in my pocket. No thanks (but, good idea)

Besides I only have 30 BTC this is $13,400 dollars. I'd only be able to purchase three units of those watches. Hardly a bulk order

I am looking for something lightweight. Something crypto currency based that will alow me to monitor my investment from afar and generate a 10x return over the next month. This is critical


This is gambling man

I don't have any control on the price of gold. What if it goes down, then what will you say to me? lol

No more gambling / trading for me. I need to do something where I have more control

Only long shots will ever return this kind of profit in this time frame. It will be gambling pure and simple. You will likely lose the rest. I have been in a similar position although only with my own funds not borrowed from anyone else so the pressure was not as bad as it is for your right now. If you are not a troll and telling the truth of your plight. I now employ much less risky trading processes and have almost got back to square one although it has been a long annoying slog.

Best chance locate 3 good/so to be good alts that are under the radar and hope they move on to the radar in that time frame. I have my eye on 2 like this but they are high risk and I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending them at this point to someone in your position. It's all pretty much a guessing game although some clues can be found with enough searching around. The problem here like anywhere is the manipulation so even if you locate a real gem it is probably going to be held down whilst other less deserving projects take moonshots over and over.

What if I just buy someone's premine for 30 BTC and then try and go from there?


I have sent them an email now. Just waiting to hear back from them, how long do they usually take to get back?

It's fine if he's a troll because that means everyone's having fun.


Man, I wish I was still playing poker with you at my table.



Just because people are greedy sheeps being fine with throwing money at random people and get burned over and over doesn't mean it's the same. Though you could be right that it's probably just as profitable.

I'm also going to advice him the same thing honesty is still the best policy if you are not going to do this,you might end up losing all bitcoin that is left to you number is also good provided that your parents will not know about your loans this is a big lesson for you and for us as well..

most of the time if you are in a hurry targetting a certain amount, what will happen to you is vise versa, instead of getting the amount you want you will get negative , because everything you do should be planned and not just you want to get things asap.

the best way I know is to play a trade, I guess if you're so great as possible within 3 months you can make that much money, but I do not recommend this if you're not great at playing trading

OP I just want to go ahead and congratulate you on being a one of the biggest fucking idiots ever. But thanks for the laugh.

Also, I can make 1000% guaranteed. Just send me the BTC and you have noting to worry about.

people always want instant way to doubling and trling their assets,and so you are,but if you dont do all that way,then the last way is gambling,with big risk,and of course you have chance to lost it all,horrible.its why i'm not suggest you to playing gambling with that amount.

OP is a lying Troll , prove it with tran id's if not. & can all these scamKoincartel shills just fuck right off , how many shills do you really need in a single thread??? oh yeah u think 30 BTCs cld be yours, fukin idiots, hes a troll!!!

Its easy, put all of your money tomorrow on Williams S., then on Djokovic N. and Thiem D.

Gamble is a life, if you dont risk you need to tallk with your parents!
Good luck

I've read the entire thread....

You're in a pickle for sure....The only way to get the type of return you need is by taking risk.  Doing anything illegal or immoral will only taint your character further, so don't go there.  The safest way I can imagine to get the type of returns you need, while taking the least risk in the most honest manner, is to sponsor a poker professional to be your horse.  There are some pretty decent tournaments that you could stake for small amounts that have the possibility of yielding large returns.  Although there are fewer candidates, there are also cash game players that may take your stake....Do some research on that prospect....utilize sites like Sharkscope to validate your players reputation and ROI....Many, many, contemporary professional players sponsor their games exclusively through the staking process....Look into it; it's a viable option.

Good Luck, Get Help, and Fess Up!

If you invest on bitcoin on 25 may when you make a topic about this, you can enjoy your profit now, because the price of bitcoin is really increase recently.

Whether you're great or not but there is no guarantee in trading one can make profits within a specified time period. Just think, whoever bought bitcoins at 1000+ then how long they might be waiting to reach that level again. So if you have a short time period then better don't ever enter into trading business.

That is really funny story where someone want to turn 30 BTC into 300 BTC but there is no such a way to do that, first of all op made laugh a lot while reading this stupidity and i am doubtful about his statement because it looking a childish funny tale.

Im also a gambler since I join btctalk even before im not registered yet here in forum im playing dice before until now. Eventhough im also an gambling addict I cant really do things like. I wont use money reserved for important things just to satisfy my gambling addiction. Sorry man but my suggestion is just withdraw that remaining btc and tell the truth because the only way to make that 300btc fast is gambling which you did and the result is bad. Dont gamble that just withdraw or you can wait for a price increase and make atleast a little profit.

Sell your BTC now and make profit wait for the price to drop to decide on :

1. Buy back the BTC that you have sold when the price drops
2. Tell your parents what you have been doing give back 30 BTC
3. Treat your parents to a cruise with the 30 BTC thus giving you more time to think how to get 90K back
5. Don't tell your parents and think your the Wolf of Wall Street / God of Gamblers and lose everything

The thing with gambling is greed. When you run good it seems like your invincible but when the tables turn you will lose a lot more than you have won.
 

I think that the OP is just trolling here... He never replied in any of the inquiries of proving that he has the 30BTC to start with.

Hi,

Why didn't you invest in your business if you were doing well?

I think it's going to be hard to get back to those 300 BTC in such short amount of time  :-\

The best idea is to talk with your parents about this issue and try to solve it before it's to late.

All the best,
Bizster.

How about gambling on sportsbook ? I know it's risky but 30 bitcoins are so damn big bankroll. I can play safe with 30 bitcoins though, and can earn 300 bitcoins but it's need time.

Tuh-ruh-oll.

A kid. Given 90k to dropship? Hey, I'm a minor, and I have the simple decency not to accept money totaling to note that $2k. There's just no guarantee that I'll be able to make a profit or even stay on par with my investment. I dropship and make 10 a sale, good enough for me.

2. HOWTHEHELLDOYOUBUY230BTCASAMINOR!?!!!??YOUNEEDTOPROVEYOURIDONMOSTSITES,ESPECIALLYFORATRANSACTIONSOFTHATVALUEANDAMOUNT :(

Don't mind me, I'm just jealous.

You are not the real isildur! or are you?????

if you are not in hurry then you can use a signature campaign. but if you are In hurry and want a quick earning then you have to take risk mean then you should invest your bitcoin in gambling that is the only way of quick earning of bitcoin. but there is a risk of loosing your own bitcoin as well.

There is only one way to turn that 30 btc to 300 btc, and that is gambling, but like the others said, it is not guaranteed. Go home happy or Go home fucked up, but if i will lookat your situation now, you are really already fucked up, thats why just be honest and tell your parents.

Now you can see for yourself how all this thing is unpredictable. In May 30, 2016 you said: "Sell your BTC now". Thew price was around $500 back then and it's $633 right now.

turn 30 btc to 300 btc are not easy especially it's about a huge money risked. if you risk all of it at once then it would make everything hard if you lost it in first bet. if you gamble it on sports means you need an odds equal to @10 with 30 btc must staked. but since op ask for a way to turn it within 2 months i guess he can try to buy some premium pick from trusted and reliable source on sports and place bet 10% of that 30btc , slowly you can turn it to 300 btc i hope so.

BTW it is hard to believe on this story but there is no way exist to make 10x amount instantly even luck can make this possible, if that is really true and someone want to give try than sports betting is one of best way to take risk there because some option can be helpful to make some profit for us.

Making 300 btc from 30 btc is attainable although it will take a very long time. Don't dream of waking up one day to bet with the 30btc and get to 300btc. I would suggest that using the 30btc as a bankroll, you can use low payouts and have a target of winning 1 btc per day. Stay focused, disciplined and strict to your strategy and goal and one day you will reach your target of 300btc.

My advice is turn it into gambling, i know it's very risky but having 30 bitcoins is really big bankroll and you can play very2 safe by using martingale strategy and just make a target like 1%-5% profit everyday.

this is too funny to me,i wonder what op did in 1 month,if you still dont know what to do,gamble those 30 btc into 300 ahahahah if you need it so urgently

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Open buy order for btcusd or btceur. You will ask what if btc goes down, with 30 bitcoins you will have 1:200 leverage and nothng will happend to you if btc goes little down just don't close order in loss, you will not lose anything if you don't close it. It is a investment on at least one month. But if bitcoin goes much down you will then lose all your money even if you have 300 btc. Now is good chance that bitcoin will go up because of halving. When you make some profit set stop loss over buy price so you will not lose any money if price goes down again. If you have any other plan, think abouth what if btc goes down and protect yourself with my advice with some of your bankroll. If you have any questions ask and I will help you, and if you deposit on simplefx, I will give you some money.

Why do you need boxes for drop shipping? Drop shipping means someone else does the boxes, you just do the sales.

just bet on betting site with 10.0 odds dude. its fast. just try yur luck. hahaha

A way that is quite right, but this only resulted in a slight advantage. because at the moment the price of BTC up takes quite a long time in order to price BTC went down to standard. So if indeed he has the ability and professional in doing gambling, then he can do gambling and I guarantee he can get BTC in want (if you have a skill and professional in gambling)

yeah I am interested in knowing that too. although this seems to be a trolling attempt especially since he posted investment advice request in gambling board.

besides from things he is saying in his first post he seems like someone who has no idea what to do with money and just runs around with money at hand and invest in different stuff which most of them end up in him losing a portion of his capital until one day it is all gone.
so in one month he must have 20BTC or less instead of being close to 300BTC

This is the fastest way and not too hard, just look for a single match with 10.0 odds or more.
For example if you bet on iceland to win at firsthalf few days ago against england you might now have already 400 btc from that 30 btc.
As my friend won the 13.0 odds for iceland to win stake $20 only and bring $260 to home in just 45 minutes game.

the fastest way is to bet 30 btc with x10 odds but you need an extreme luck and i don't know if there is a gambling site that accept beting 30 btc one time else you need to start making bet with 1 btc with odds x10 if you lose just add 0.5 btc and you will get you 300 btc for sure.
but all you need is luck if you need to do something like that.

if you like you money then you shouldn't even gamble with it.
and if you want to make profit on your money they you should't gamble with it.

there are so many better ways of investment that you can do if you want to make a profit.

You sound like a lazy spoiled child. You lied to your parents and blew, what, 81k on shitcoins falling from the sky? Maybe you should be run your drop business idea instead, although if that had failed I'm sure you would have lied to your parents anyways.

This is your rock bottom (my God, I hope) come clean. They'll disown you then you can pick yourself back up WORK HARD and actually EARN something for once in your life.

As you have lost so many bitcoins two times in trading and now you have left with only 30btc , as i am doing why dont you try to bet on sports book but if you dont have knowledge then first get a good professional tipster which you can find in this forum and first look his past records and then try to bet on them but split the bets equally so that you should not screw back like past in trading , in this way you can atleast cover your some loss how much i cannot say as it will depend on you.

in my experience it is not a good idea at all to gamble with such a large amount which is 30BTC in this case. because it would be a very huge risk and losing it will be that much harder too.
also if you have no knowledge of the game you are playing like betting on sports then you may not be so successful either even if you follow a tipster.

So you want 10x return on investment without any research or effort.
you don't want to spend time trading or thinking.

LOL Primedice.com goodluck

Yep, ponzi! Op might as well just gamble. probably more easy than this shit.

Omg why are you even lying about this. You go as far as to pretend. It's this sort of thinking that is gonna make you lose money. down to 30btc ?? what were you thinking ? Now you don't have a business.
This return is far too high

I think OP will lose even this 30 btc he had left, with this way of thinking. I don`t even know how you managed to lose 90 k on roulette, that was hell of a night, a? And trying to get back what you lost in gambling is always bad thing to do, trust me.

If I can suggest you, but believe me its not easy, play slots! With 30 btc you can chase some good slots on max bet. If you catch some good bonus, on some good slot you can make a lot of money. Nothing can give you such big prize like slots can, from all gambling games. But, but its gambling, and slots can be a real bitch. You can lose a big amount very fast and to not get anything, so you need to be careful, to try to choose right one.
Now is it better to choose one slot and push it to the maximum until the end, or its better to change slots from time to time its up to you. Choose your strategy, you can read find that things on internet.

I wish you good luck with making money! Its not gonna be easy for sure, so be careful to not mistake cause you are in a hurry.

Slot is not a good idea. And in addition, the slot can even have a lower expected value than dice and other table games. Most of the time, it is not easy to profit from slots.

stop bringing dead thread just to count posts, i know fortune forces you to post in gambling section but dont revive dead subjects op didnt log-in long time and there is no point in bringing it up..
regards.
-Katerniko1

If this story is even true, just tell your parents what is up.  There is no point in lying even more.  There is no way you are going to magically multiply your 30 btc into 300 btc by only investing in currencies.  If you continue "investing" you are likely to loose even more of the money your parents lent you.  For the future, and for anyone else reading this, borrowing money from family/friends is usually a bad idea.

He lost so many in just playing gambling in slots and dice game and now he wants to build back his bankroll back to normal with this 30btc , and this is the only way which he can do , it is true that without knowledge it is not right to play in sports betting but their are so many professionals who are charging for their predictions and their winning ratio is 80 to 90 %, if you join them first take free tips from them and if you are winning try to play on their bets , but bet on split basis not to jump as fully on one bet but to split it on 10 or 20% margin on each bet like this you can make profit and get saved from loss.

After reading the early comments about how to multiply 30 BTC into 300 BTC which seems really insane, I am pretty sure about this there is no magical strategy to make them 10x very quickly and after having bad experience that is sure op will lose this remaining amount very soon so better accept this lose and tell the truth to his parents and than get start with positive mind.

LOL, it is very very difficult, most of people can't achieve that, if it is possible, people won't tell you.

1. Be a scammer, but your whole family will be cursed and you will be sued by victims, like mintpal scam, mtgox scam, hashocean scam, cryptsy scam and so forth.
2. Trading, it is legal but difficult, if you are an experienced trader, it may happen, but still difficult.
3. Join ICO, lol, difficult one too, if you join ETH, FACTOM, LISK ICO, you can gain 10X or more but most ICO coins can't win so much money even lose money.

There is this person I know who managed to make his 5 btc capital into 500 btc because of games like NBA, MLB and Tennis. He often post bet slips at a sports betting site which shows his win (he managed to win 240+ btc in a day with 1.5 btc capital, 0.5 btc each bet and put into a 6-line parlay). Idk how he managed to do that but he always post winning slips, which is just pretty insane. You can do sports betting but you need to be very careful on your picks and must analyze everything first before making a bet. I don't think there is a way to easily multiply your btc into x10 except gambling.

That is amazing there is an sporting giant who can do this, I am into very big shock to hear this he managed to win 240+ btc in a day with just 1.5 btc, till now I did see this kind of huge winning made by any person but maybe he is very lucky person who is winning again and again and now he is millionaire by using his knowledge with sports betting.

What 240+ BTC with just 1.5 BTC capital, I can't believe this. How it is possible. I know that we can make a profit in sports betting. But this is too much. If people make a profit like this means all casinos will be closed in within few days. I never saw this winning anyone till day. Maybe he is the very lucky person in the gambling world.

30btc > 300 btc within months is purely, tough, unless you did something which miracle happens ( ICO's, betting - NOT SUGGESTED ) because, business which able to generate great ROIs takes months to years.

Your best bet, find a group of pioneer and experts who study and have a very great knowledge on cryptocurrency( Find those legit one ). Then ask them conduct research on certain coins which currently have ICO, if majority of the experts having true permission and suggest that coin is gonna be success, get into the ride. Then, pay each of them maybe 0.2-0.5% of the total profit you made during the ico, trust me, good coins, raises by multiplying but not % of it.

According to : https://coinmarketcap.com/gainers-losers/ , i've seen a coin, grown for 1000% which is exactly x10 under 24hour, but, you really need to get some experts to analyze for you.


Good luck!

NOTE
But i would really suggest that, tell your parents the truth, they raise you, grown you up, teach you, if you gonna lie to them, your life is totally fail sorry to say that, i lied to my parents before, even is a small case, i feel guilty af. Now this is a big case, i thinks that, your parents has the rights to know because you are their children. Do you even hope your kid lied to you telling you that he need money to invest but he done something? Think in their perspective, stand in their shoes.

I hope you will make a wise decision and donate me 1 btc thank you <3 ( Well, im just joking :) )
Just, truthfully hope that you will tell your parents the truth, even you manage to earn back your 300 BTC, they need to know what you are doing, or else why would we call them our parents, our family?

Sincerely,
Your new mates

Why just 300?

You can as well do start from 0.003, do the magic and get 0.03, again and get 0.3,.... again and get 30BTC, again and get 300BTC, again and get 3000BTC, again and get 30000BTC....


I will let you know how to do this once I figure out how to do this myself.

That is best answer with very good strategy how get started with gambling. I think so betting is depend on our luck to get start from 0.003 looks like risk free while why op put so big amount on risk to reach his goal for get back his lost money.

the best way to make it happen,use that amount of bitcoin for trading altcoin,its quick if you have big funds,steady at price chart in exchange like bittrex or poloniex,make sure you pick coins that have larger volume thn your funds,but i'm not sure you are a good trader.

If there is a possible way to turn 30 btc into 300 btc easily and fast as you request, everybody would doing it without any doubt. That's not easy dude, most likely impossible without spending a lot of time and effort.

Well, it's possible and I've seen it before my eyes. The dude usually bets on MLB with 6-team parlay and a 99x returns. He always wins the book's jackpot on the parlay (which is most of the time, 5btc) so I don't see why this isn't possible for him. I always follow his picks, and because of that, I managed to make my initial deposit 10x of what it was.

Sounds imposibble to me, with no risk, stress factors plus you dont want to be all day long watching your investment, even setting up a trade bot, would be risky managing your last remainings of btc... :-\
Best solution i guess is to find a whale grp pay the fee to join them, start making profit smallone

First of all story of the Op is so cinematic that I really have troube deciding wheter it is possible or not. But seeing how human idiocy has no limits I am gonna accept it as feasible scenario.
But this thread was created in May. Op said that he earn the money until July. Today is 8th July so it is over for the Op anyway. Too bad he haven't logged in since May, we will never hear how it all ended.

Can you please share this link with us where this guy posting his picks for MLB, no doubt this sounds so great when someone has that kind of knowledge and fucking luck with 99x returns, we are all waiting to hear something good news about this.

although there is the fastest way but it's really a high risk, such as making a parlay with odds @10 and bet 30btc. but it's really not recommended. if I had better do trading altcoin. though takes a long time, but I am sure and certain to reach 300btc

The op is long gone (Last Active:   May 25, 2016, 07:50:56 PM) so no need to keep bumping this up.

I think so many ways to make 30 to 300 BTC BTC, but everything really has a very big risk. I just want to say that if you want to make a lot of bitcoin then you should try to see the opportunities of the road that you take. I suggest to play trading, because it can minimize the risk, even if you fail, you may only loss with a small nominal. but I guess this is really risky

It's a kind of tradition to not share his picks outside the bookie because he posts it there with trust from us and usually at the last minute before a game of the parlay starts. So even if I share the link of his picks, you will not have the time to register your bet and copy his.

Hi everyone, want to share my story here, I was once a gambler that I can gamble big amount of money in one day, I have this thinking that maybe I can make a living off gambling and get rich. I won big before but I lost back on the other day too.

And once you lost, you will try to recover back your lost amount and from there, the snowball just keep rolling, and you find yourself in bad mood everyday as you will keep on depositing all your savings and always hoping to recover back your loss. I have seen too many people losing big amount of money in Bitcoin Gambling.

Think for your family, your parents, your loved ones, your wife or kids, they love you, do not let gambling ruin your life, many people are always thinking they will win big from gambling and get rich in one night.

It happens, but out of 10000 people, maybe just 1 person are that lucky to really win a huge amount of money for him to retire.

Human concept always look at the lucky guy and envy him and thinking they will be the next him, but out of 10000 people, 9999 people have lost big, so why do you want to hurt yourself and your loved ones.

I am not trying to change people mind here, I just hope I can help some people that are addicted to gambling.

Life is good and wonderful, do not get yourself stuck in front of the pc everyday rolling dice and even you win big today, you will still lose back in other day, money that come fast go away fast too.

Don't let gambling ruin your life, many of you are still young and have a good future ahead. That's all

Trading in altcoin prices is the same as gambling, you have lost so much money your parents gave to you, have you ever think how hard it is for your parents to save up so much money? they give you the money and hope you will do good in life, but now instead of being grateful to them, you lie to them.

Go and take a look at how much your parents has age over the years, their black hair turned white, their wrinkles on their face, what have you done to yourself.

My suggestion will be, you just stop all your altcoin trading or gambling now and cash out the 30 BTC, it is impossible for you to recover back what you have lost now, and be honest to your parents, just admit your mistake, they will understand and forgive you and you must promise to them you will never do any sort of investment or gambling again.

Just work and have a stable life, don't hurt your loved ones anymore, you have a bright future ahead.

If op is still around us than it is best time to get stop all efforts to turn this remaining 30BTC into 300BTC with trading altcoins or playing on gambling casinos, all ways of gambling are risky and there is no chance to get survive with remaining amount if ever you met the losing streak there, you must accept the lose and realize that gambling can't be profitable anymore.

What you asking for I am to turn water into wine. Its funny you say it can't be from trading or investments that need to be watched. You are lazy. You asking a method to make 10x your money without work ? Even mwith work how will you ten fold your money ? You have to be one sort of super business man. No one will tell you how to make that money of they knew how. Serious people would just laugh at you.

There is no moral in trading altcoins ... you need to know you buy nothing and you sell nothing ....

Remember wanting to double or multiply your money fast can make you lose everything so fast also. With that 30 Bitcoin you have i suggest you to bet low and win big. Don't Bet it all in one bet you might regret it later on. Goodluck

Everyone knows how to lose, I think that is your first achievement to level up how to handle you money and responsibility you are in so much luck OP because my parents just simply do not have a money so they didn't even ask me if I needed an investment scheme.

If you wanna know about them maybe you can see this link (https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/1cbd498RU1WTXJ0ajlQT2xoR2ZZTWJVUG94QT09)
On that link he only risk small amount, but ifyou see the odds it is unbelieve able odds

that's very incredible odds for parlay, he won from total 5.8k odds just with 0.001 btc, is he a guy who won 240 btc? do you have their thread about make this crazy parlay?