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Title: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: AGD on May 26, 2016, 05:55:46 AM
I find almost all threads/postings from people with ad campaigns in their signature have such an extremely low content, that I would like to see a button to ignore them all at once. Please ...


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: Lauda on May 26, 2016, 09:48:35 AM
Considering that the administration has not commented on the presented proposals (example here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1462756.msg14773187#msg14773187)) which intend to make spamming harder, I doubt that we are going to see something like an 'ignore all' button. It might be worth looking into DannyHamilton's list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0) which has about ~1900 users.


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: AGD on May 26, 2016, 01:12:34 PM
Thanks. That will help a lot already! (despite you being on that list, too)


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: twister on May 26, 2016, 02:32:33 PM
Thanks. That will help a lot already! (despite you being on that list, too)

Actually no, he isn't. Check the January update and the list of the people at the bottom who were removed from the list. But I am so you will probably not see this post if you have already applied it.


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: ndnh on May 26, 2016, 02:44:33 PM
Spam is an integral part of a forum. ;D

If you literally ignore everyone, you can only go through your own posts, right?


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: dserrano5 on May 26, 2016, 06:54:31 PM
I find almost all threads/postings from people with ad campaigns in their signature have such an extremely low content, that I would like to see a button to ignore them all at once. Please ...

Your request has already been answered so let me propose a different approach: take the Signature AdBlock script by grue (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1003570.0) and patch it (or request a patch) so it blocks not only the sig, but the post as a whole. Ok, it's not a perfect solution because you'll miss some substantial posts that happen to sport a sig, but maybe you hadn't considered this and it may be a reasonable option to you.


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: krunox123 on May 26, 2016, 07:03:42 PM
If you literally ignore everyone, you can only go through your own posts, right?
I'm pretty sure he is looking to find a way to ignore all the low-quality users.
That would be a nice feature, lol. That's if only it's possible. :P


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: ndnh on May 26, 2016, 07:37:59 PM
If you literally ignore everyone, you can only go through your own posts, right?
I'm pretty sure he is looking to find a way to ignore all the low-quality users.
That would be a nice feature, lol. That's if only it's possible. :P

It would end up pretty complicated.

Suppose theymos comes up with an algorithm that beats Google's that groups all the low-quality users and adds the feature, and a low-quality user clicks the button, will he ignore himself? Will it be like he is banned forever or will he be able to unignore himself? How will ignoring himself affect his Real Life...

What if all the low-quality users end up meaning all the users of the forum? Will the forum self-destruct?


Too many questions. I think we should change the topic.  ;D


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: bitcoin730 on May 26, 2016, 07:44:21 PM
Why people are trying to get profit bro


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: Evildrum on May 26, 2016, 07:58:49 PM
In turn can we get a button to ignore people that fill this way about signatures?
Would not want to waste their time or my own having to respond to each other in a public forum,when it would just be rubbing each other the wrong way. :D

Feel free to add me to your list. ;)


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: ndnh on May 26, 2016, 08:03:58 PM
In turn can we get a button to ignore people that fill this way about signatures?
Would not want to waste their time or my own having to respond to each other in a public forum,when it would just be rubbing each other the wrong way. :D

Feel free to add me to your list. ;)

Okay. Two forums - one with sigs and one without. but I still prefer this one. ;D


Sig haters can choose to block signatures through settings but the posts will still be there. May be it is possible to come up with a feature that removes the post along with the signature - but won't the conversations be disconnected from each other?


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: krunox123 on May 26, 2016, 08:09:32 PM
It would end up pretty complicated.
Is it?

Suppose theymos comes up with an algorithm that beats Google's that groups all the low-quality users and adds the feature, and a low-quality user clicks the button, will he ignore himself?
Ignoring himself sounds a bit silly, IMO. Low-quality users can still participate in any discussions, but neither of us can see their posts. It's like they are invisible around the forum, and discussing all the matters by themselves( or just ban them altogether). ;D

Will it be like he is banned forever or will he not be able to unignore himself?
FTFY. Either of them sounds good. :P

How will ignoring himself affect his Real Life...
Real life will start ignoring himself as well. :P

What if all the low-quality users end up meaning all the users of the forum?
Well, then there is no reason for this forum to exist anymore.

Will the forum self-destruct?
Perhaps.

Too many questions. I think we should change the topic.  ;D
I think you missed out the main question(s). How do we define high-quality or low-quality users?


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: Evildrum on May 26, 2016, 08:14:39 PM
Its really a half baked idea and creates more problems due to the people using ignore lists making echo posts which would get a signature wearer in trouble. It creates a double standard but I like these people doing this because it communicates how shortsighted they are in addressing issues. Signature bias plagues so many here and they think it gives them the right to spit on people that wear one.

The people that have called me out so far have been lacking in English or even worse posters than the people they accuse of spam. Yet it is encouraged to attack signatures where ever people see fit.

If people are determined to put this weird  bubble up that states how little they understand public intercourse so be it.
Reflects on them more than the signature,so have at it.


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: Jhanzo on May 26, 2016, 10:17:10 PM
How hard could it be for you to take a bit of time and ignore users one by one depending on their post(s)?
Ignoring all users with signature campaigns or using someone else's ignore list is not always the best choice as you might find some users ignored by the feature (another user) not very stupid after all.


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: ndnh on May 27, 2016, 06:08:03 AM
It would end up pretty complicated.
Is it?

Yep.


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Suppose theymos comes up with an algorithm that beats Google's that groups all the low-quality users and adds the feature, and a low-quality user clicks the button, will he ignore himself?
Ignoring himself sounds a bit silly, IMO. Low-quality users can still participate in any discussions, but neither of us can see their posts. It's like they are invisible around the forum, and discussing all the matters by themselves( or just ban them altogether). ;D

We will have weird looking threads with disconnected conversations.

Better to launch a nospam.bitcointalk.org on invite-only basis for good quality posters like me. ;D


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Will it be like he is banned forever or will he not be able to unignore himself?
FTFY. Either Both of them sounds good. :P

FTFY  8)


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How will ignoring himself affect his Real Life...
Real life will start ignoring himself as well. :P

Doesn't sound very encouraging...

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What if all the low-quality users end up meaning all the users of the forum?
Well, then there is no reason for this forum to exist anymore.

Will the forum self-destruct?
Perhaps.

For the survival of the forum, we should dump the concept. Spammers will be unemployed.


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Too many questions. I think we should change the topic.  ;D
I think you missed out the main question(s). How do we define high-quality or low-quality users?

By that master algorithm.


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: AGD on June 01, 2016, 08:47:36 PM
So much better now  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/EWsZ4HD.png


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: Evildrum on June 01, 2016, 09:52:21 PM
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I find almost all threads/postings from people with ad campaigns in their signature have such an extremely low content, that I would like to see a button to ignore them all at once. Please ...

Must be leading by example and showing us how to make quality posts.

So much better now  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/EWsZ4HD.png

Almost all? Least you are not full on biased,way to keep that door open in case you need to back pedal a little bit.
I find you to be very low content as well,so it is a mutual feeling right back you! ;)


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: AGD on June 06, 2016, 06:12:33 AM
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I find almost all threads/postings from people with ad campaigns in their signature have such an extremely low content, that I would like to see a button to ignore them all at once. Please ...

Must be leading by example and showing us how to make quality posts.

So much better now  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/EWsZ4HD.png

Almost all? Least you are not full on biased,way to keep that door open in case you need to back pedal a little bit.
I find you to be very low content as well,so it is a mutual feeling right back you! ;)


Sometimes I check back and show ignored postings. Almost all of them are writing senseless stuff, like "Bitcoin will remain an eternal secret and its creator is watching this forum" (add some extreme grammar errors for the real experience). It is obvious, that these comments are posted only for sig spamming and not to contribute something (at least funny) to the topics, like Lauda does.

So, thanks again Lauda and Danny. This forum is a better place with the ignore list :D


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: koshgel on June 06, 2016, 11:25:03 PM
Low quality has taken on a new meaning in this forum. As long as you drone on and create lazy sentence after lazy sentence, somehow having more characters in your post means it's not low quality.  It's fucking low quality if I have to read the same reply to a question 15 different ways that are a paragraph long. You can easily have a constructive post that is concise.

An "ignore all" function won't solve the original problem of "low quality" posts.


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: Dajackal on June 06, 2016, 11:27:48 PM
Considering that the administration has not commented on the presented proposals (example here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1462756.msg14773187#msg14773187)) which intend to make spamming harder, I doubt that we are going to see something like an 'ignore all' button. It might be worth looking into DannyHamilton's list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0) which has about ~1900 users.
OMG, his list is bonkers. How did he have the time to put it together?


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on June 06, 2016, 11:30:57 PM
Low quality has taken on a new meaning in this forum. As long as you drone on and create lazy sentence after lazy sentence, somehow having more characters in your post means it's not low quality.  It's fucking low quality if I have to read the same reply to a question 15 different ways that are a paragraph long. You can easily have a constructive post that is concise.

An "ignore all" function won't solve the original problem of "low quality" posts.
Well said, young man.  And as an example, check out that stupid fucking "cupcakes for bitcoin" thread.  I'm on my phone and am far too unmotivated to provide a link.  It's instructive to read through the comments and realize that no one realizes the thread and idea had long been abandoned by the OP.  It's a bunch of "but how the cpcakes will stay fresh" bullshit responses, over and over and over.  I begged the great horned one to strike that thread DEAD.  If you check it out, please please don't resurrect it.


Title: Re: Low quality posts from people with signature ads - "Ignore all" button needed
Post by: mki8 on June 13, 2016, 05:25:27 AM
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I find almost all threads/postings from people with ad campaigns in their signature have such an extremely low content, that I would like to see a button to ignore them all at once. Please ...

Must be leading by example and showing us how to make quality posts.

So much better now  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/EWsZ4HD.png

Almost all? Least you are not full on biased,way to keep that door open in case you need to back pedal a little bit.
I find you to be very low content as well,so it is a mutual feeling right back you! ;)


Sometimes I check back and show ignored postings. Almost all of them are writing senseless stuff, like "Bitcoin will remain an eternal secret and its creator is watching this forum" (add some extreme grammar errors for the real experience). It is obvious, that these comments are posted only for sig spamming and not to contribute something (at least funny) to the topics, like Lauda does.

So, thanks again Lauda and Danny. This forum is a better place with the ignore list :D

totally agree something needs to be done
but even with ignore list you still must search through pages and pages of ignored comments
to find anything useful or informative

comments which are actually worth reading, are needles in haystacks in bitcointalk