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so you went to cafepress, made a new store with merchandise with bitcoin logo, and now you're calling yourself a store? on top of that, you're posting with an obnoxious title.

Shoulda called it the "B with two lines through it" megastore.  Not to sound harsh, but... it's just stuff with a BTC on it.  Could you put "Bitcoin" or "Bought with Bitcoin" on them?

And everything's in $ only?  I guess you can't put "Bought with Bitcoin" on them...

Maybe it's just me but I doubt you'll find customers from this forum unless you start accepting bitcoins.

I think it depends what was your attitude and efforts in trying to encourage to accept BTC as a payment:


Don't forget that Bitcoin is not only a currency but (as I think it should be more promoted) a payment system and people are continuing to use it thus, regardless of the price of BTC.

This looks completely different now, thanks for the clarification and I understand your choices, hope it turns out well and you manage to offer your products for BTC, that's when I'll buy. :)

look at your own link, ALL of the images are based on publicly available bitcoin related pictures. all you did was upload the pictures from google image search to cafepress.

He's right. I call bullshit.

So if we patronize your store we are supporting a business with people strongly against bitcoin?

looks to me like you fired up mspaint, used the dropper/paint bucket, then uploaded them to cafepress. If you actually did something special that showed you had respect for the community instead of just trying to make a quick buck, you might get some positive reviews.

http://www.cafepress.com/bitcoinmegastore.789096140 (http://www.cafepress.com/bitcoinmegastore.789096140)

Seems a bit expensive.  Also, you should accept bitcoin.

Photoshop, 5 minutes

I'm not interested in any challenge. And if you truly created the images the way you say you did...why? They're still a simple image. At the end of the day, its still just the BTC logo in another color.

how many others see this "shop" closing down in the next week, if it even lasts that long. lol

That's when your business died ;D

Also, your irrelevant spam in various topics isn't appreciated.  This isn't helping.  I wish you luck with your business, because you will need it.  Nobody wants to buy from a hack, and nobody wants to know an abusive hack.  You're not selling in BTC, you're not selling anything remotely new.  You copied and pasted someone else's design (give me whatever links you please; you didn't design it, we all know it) onto a bunch of random shit and hoped to turn a buck.  Stop pretending, adopt a real trade, and go away.

You're supposed to be nice because this is what mutual respect should look like. Imho, you're free to come and go as you please, but keep your stickers with you.

http://www.cafepress.com/bitcoinmegastore.795574156

I lol'ed :v

300 hours on a cafe press store?

Really?

how do i pres butan?

There's your problem right there.

In case it's not obvious, you're so called effort is non-obvious.

Ouch. Just had to quote that for future customers man. You should have just stopped at the first troll that started picking at you...

300 hours. Really.

Get CafePress to accept Bitcoin and I am sure the support from the BItcoin community for your store will increase.

I'm not going to sit here and knock your idea, hard work & effort. I can tell you put some time into this, 300+hrs? maybe not, but definitely time & energy.

My 2 cents.. The customer is always right, unfortunately right now you ARE getting feedback from real BTC users and you should take it as FEEDBACK, dont take it personally like everyone is trying to bring YOU down. Your customers are not going to be regular people, its going to be BTC clients. Everyone here is a BTC client and chances are if most here dont like it, most BTC users everywhere wont.

My suggestion? You got something started here, keep tweaking it and playing around until you start getting positive feedback and most importantly consistent sales. If you talk to any business man, they will tell you their first idea did NOT work. It takes years and years to get something down pat.

Good Luck with it! I think the name is very cool.

How many more hundreds of hours did you sink into that since yesterday?

How many hundred hours did it take you to click that ignore button?

Have you tried giving ebay a try? Or is it against policy to sell cafe stuff on other websites? Like retail websites?

Hopefully that poochie has some royalty checks coming in....

http://i1.cpcache.com/product/789096125/back_8quot_bitcoin_dog_tshirt.jpg?color=White&height=350&width=350

http://i1.cpcache.com/product/665534537/dirty_fozzie_dog_tshirt.jpg?color=White&height=460&width=460


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v57MI73NCtE/TfFwMExLzrI/AAAAAAAACMo/W-6GjUWi7dI/s320/AmericanDog.jpg

can you pay with bitcoins?

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/sk_incredulous1.jpg


You must be new here.

LMFAO!! His freaking face.. I just spit out water laughing so hard

Bitcoin Megastore I just came here to say I like your avatar, how many hundreds of hours did it take you?

That probably wasn't the smartest business move. Infecting? What does that even mean? I originally clicked on your post, excited, hoping to find a shop where I could buy whatever I wanted with my BTC. Afterall, it is called a "Megastore". But all I found was another CafePress, bullshit type thing. What you call "infecting" is calling into question your place and your shop's place in the BTC community. I like to spend my BTC on original things that people create, not some stupid t-shirt a guy puts the BTC symbol on, taking advantage of the logo. I don't even need to say anything else, I'll leave the self-destruction to you-you've been great at it so far.

The weekly BTC color changes aren't mega?

Oh God Cafepress lol

They are close to mega, it is the slight skew of the BTC that really makes them mega.

Cafepress would be a lot better if it didn't take hundreds of hours to build a Cafepress shop.

LOL.

OP:
The prices are outrageous and the designs are bland. For the same $$ I could design & print a 1-off at one of hundreds of web-t shirt places, and something exactly to my liking.

So yeah, good luck with this horseshit.

Awesome! I can use bitcoins to buy your shirt using the same service I already could have used to buy whatever I wanted. Innovation at its finest.

Huh, a rare moment of lucidity. There is hope yet...

This guy is hilarious.

So I get a contact email from EarnFreeBitcoins.com the other day. Its this "Bitcoin Megastore" guy telling me that he will no longer be doing business with my service until I remove the "Like/Dislike" feature (you can click a thumbs up or a thumbs down on websites while viewing them). He spent less than 0.1 BTC, not really a big deal. Then he went on to say this (word for word)


He was all pissed off because 30+ visitors on the site downvoted him. Bored, I decided to take a good look at the "product" of his "hard work". I looked at it briefly during the review process, but didnt think much of it. Looking at it now, its just silly. So I replied back to him, basically I explained what the Like/Dislike feature is for, and that, with this being the internet and all, he shouldnt take people not liking his site personally, and instead try and figure out WHY they dont like it, and what he could do to change that and turn it into sales - or maybe hes just trying to target the wrong demographic. Looking through his cafepress store, its pretty obvious why people would downvote it.. So I decided to lay it out to him with points such as :

• The fact that its literally just one design (the basic bitcoin logo which of course he had nothing to do with) slapped on to dozens of premade products
• Prices arnt cheap at all considering what you're getting
• Its a store about bitcoin, being promoted to the bitcoin community, yet it doesnt accept bitcoin as payment at all...
• Pages with like 20 variations of literlaly the exact same product, in the exact same colours, with the exact same logo, with the only difference being the size and position of said logo
• In no way shape or form is setting up a cafepress actually hard work, especially when compared to building real e-commerce websites
• Its cafepress....

I then get a response telling me im "a troll just like the ones on bitcointalk" and that I have no clue about CafePress stores. Heres a few of my favorite quotes from that conversation:


He ends up telling me that I need a reality check, sooner the better. lol.

Then I found this thread. Looks like most people are thinking pretty much the same thing here :p

Why did I bother posting this? I dont know, its friday night and I could use some more entertainment. Looking forward to the nonsensical response.

Just goto the custom hardware section.  Plenty of Drama & Trolling for everyone!

You havnt provided any evidence whatsoever that you havnt done anything more than literally just take the bitcoin logo from google images and uploaded it to cafepress. Id be pretty interested in hearing what your actual workflow is that makes resizing or changing some colours on a single image and hitting a few checkboxes so difficult and require 300+ hours of work.

Let me just clarify something. Theres nothing wrong with trying to sell stuff over CafePress. Kudos for trying. The problem comes in with shit like this:

• when you claim to have put in "over 300 hours of professional work" and use "over 400 custom designed renders". Loading up a image thats part of the public domain into photoshop and tweaking the colours and size is absolutely not "Design". With that logic, I could go find a image of Mickey Mouse, invert the colours and turn him upside down, then go "look everybody, look what I designed!".  Furthermore, CafePress does 99% of EVERYTHING for you. All HTML/CSS/Javascript/Server side programming, hosting, payment processing, actually creating the product, shipping the product and all order handling (and probably all customer service) is taken care of by them. Thats the whole point of cafepress. The job of the cafepress user is just to choose templates, select what premade products you want and upload images to slap onto those products. In no way does that constitute "professional" work. If you have actually spent over 300 hours doing that, your doing it wrong.
• Saying things like "Fuck You " to people who dont want to take up your "challenge" , and calling people "jealous incompetent retards" who dont like your "store" is a surefire way to lose respect from just about anyone, especially the community that you are trying to market this shit to. You have to earn respect in order to get respect. And if your trying to do business, you need to maintain a level of professionalism (ie, dont cry and start insulting people when you get negative feedback). Doing otherwise will just keep digging a deeper and deeper hole.

Your trying to build a business based soley around selling products you didnt make, that have a public domain image that you also didnt make. No one cares if you made an alternate render of the bitcoin logo, and made it pixel perfect to the original source file. Its still Just a B with a line through it and a circle around it. Its not some holy symbol that everyone in the bitcoin community adores and sees as some sort of representation of themselves. Its a fucking capital B inside of a circle.


You do realize that you cant just change your public IP address at will right? Maybe with a dynamic IP, but do you honestly think that there is a group of people going out of their way just to downvote you on one website, because they are "jealous"?


Well, Im no expert with cafepress (why would you want to be?), though I have used it before.. but the rest is actually true. I develop websites 6-12 hours a day, every day. Iv been building websites for over 6 years. I work for two different profressional web development companies in my current town. Iv created dozens of websites for all sorts of businesses and organizations, plus my own websites. And have worked on dozens and dozens more. Iv built e-commerce sites, and have worked on some pretty large ones that bring in $100,000 + sales a month. I could give all kinds of examples, but im not going to post it here, especially in this topic.. if anyone thinks im just talking bullshit, feel free to PM me :)

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Can I pay with BTC?

It's because you alienated and insulted everyone that came into this thread. No one who has seen the rude things you have posted would be willing to do business with you.

Style: 8.  Execution: 3

I realize this has been said before - but this store is flat-out ridiculous.  I don`t remotely care what the copyright status is or anything else - I saw your sig and said `hot damn, I can buy Bitcoin apparel and pay with BTC.  You BET I`m down!`.

Then I went to the store, observed that it was a shoddy Cafepress store with above-average design efforts put in, and that I could not pay in BTC.

The day you accept BTC for BTC-themed apparel is the day I consider it.  Accepting fiat for Bitcoin apparel is absurd, irrespective of how you justify the fact that you are `supporting` the Bitcoin project by profiting in fiat from sales of such apparel.  

You`ve clearly put effort into the design and I commend you on that - but there is an exactly zero chance of me or anybody I know personally paying a single dime in fiat currency for Bitcoin clothing.   I realize that BitSpend exists - you get no credit for that, and I can use that to buy anything I want.  The fact that you are trying to profit (in fiat) on the back of a logo you didn`t create and a project you don`t really seem to have even a medium-term goal of supporting (by way of adding to the transactional Bitcoin economy by accepting it) is goofy.

You`re entirely free to do it, and I don`t even think you`re a bad guy for it.  I just think you should be a little more realistic about exactly what value you`ve added here.  Don`t hack at people for disliking your store; if you came up with some believable spin about how you *plan* to migrate to a BTC-accepting platform or whatever, I`d accept that as evidence that you a) get it and b) care.  But throwing out the idea of using BitSpend (i.e. effort on the consumer`s part to accomodate your business practices) is foolishness.

Love the products though - when you accept BTC directly, yourself, as part of your store, I would consider buying from you and I would recommend you.  Until that day though... I `BTC-themed` but fiat-priced apparel does not want, my friend.  Does not want.

I can't handle how MEGA this store is!

Full autism engaged.