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Ill let you guys figure it out :)

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Ballin'

got them hashing yet?  ;D

Whoa!

Chip specs? 

What is this hashing chip guys? Care to provide a link?

Oh, nice. 14nm chips from BW.

I found this announcement for the previous chip BW-LK1401
https://www.bw.com/news/show-65-proclamation

Maybe work together with sidehack and kilo17 (Community miner project) if they are interested!?

I am definitely interested.

HOLY CRAP! that's exciting stuff! the community miner thread has been pretty silent so I was wondering where progress is. Glad to see you're making strides Sidehack.

GET THIS MAN SOME BLOODY CHIPS!!!

Daddy wants some new USB/Mini miners.

Sidehack hasn't made much progress at all, those are jstefanop's chips. I've been pretty busy holding down the fort since Novak left and never talked to BW about chips. I kinda handed off seeking chips to Kilo, since he'd had more luck and had more friends and bigger guns.

nice

Small world,I was just on Ebay last night seeing how much Ashes of the Singularity codes were going for & a name popped out on the search list "jstefanop"   :D 8)

Congrats!!! But those are the BTC/Alt coin chips Sidehack don't want nothing to do with aren't they??  :D

I thought they had some BTC chips and other chip not one chip that does it all like grind seed aka S something .

They did announce about 8 weeks ago these would be available to the public in June.

Thanks for posting that is a heck of  upgrade if they hit that mark on power consumption.  Will be interesting to watch if they made a bunch of these.

jstefanop are you able to let us know anything about price?  Or if it's hitting spec?  Or are you under NDA where you cant say much?

Cool... Seems you have the right contacts.  Let the fun begin! 

BW had previousy said


Have you made that level of commitment to get samples?


Rich

Specs on the miners you're building from those chips?

 9-)

Pulling the Bitfury trick on us I see,jstefanop  ::)

Well played   8)

Just gotta ask for preorder monies now & you got the corp mindset down pat  :D

sorry was away for the weekend...and yes I am under NDA so I can't say much other than what is publicly available. Chips are indeed BW's latest 1402 14nm. About 50 GH a chip @ .1 w/gh.

So don't tell us anything that is covered by the NDA, just tell us what your plans are for the chips?


Rich

And are you willing to /able to help Community miner project (sidehack, kilo17) ?

You have my attention...

100-200 watts ;).

So a stick with 1 chip  would use 5 watts more or less.

and do 40 to 55 gh a stick nice.

I guess a stick is the easiest way eh, no need for cooling considerations.

I would really like a "new Rbox" with these chips.

I will 100% buy some sticks if they are made with this chip though. 

Thanks a lot jstefanop.

Your small miners are the only option for home miners.

Scrypt MLs are great. I pay electricity at 0.15 and I don't loose money with them.
Even I earn something...

And now an small bitcoin miner that can survive next halving. Incredible.   :o
I will buy a few of them for sure  ;)

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR SMALL MINERS.

Nice! I'm interested too. How hard was it to get samples?

Thanks for giving us hope that there are *some* chips available for the small guys ;-p

-a[g

BitWain   ;D

My plans involve discussing the deal with BW so thats the issue there. And the "deal" is a bit at odds with my plan for producing small affordable miners for you guys which is the problem currently.

I was going to stay away from stick miners since the high end of the stick miner range (for both compaq and my moonlander) was around 10W which cause a bit of headaches for USB powered devices/hubs...since most hubs can't provide that much clean power. The good thing about this chip is the high end is 5w, which would make it a prefect stick miner.

My "ideal" plan would be around a 4-5 chip "pod" miner ~200GH @ 20 watts (ridiculously small, think a 2x2x2 inch box) that could connect up to 10 of them on a single pcie power connector, and would have a separate controller box.

So essentially you would buy the pcie cable connector (or make one), the controller box, then add as many pods as you would like (up to 20 chained). So you would have miner "building blocks" and its up to the user how much they want to spend and how large to make the miner. Then lets say a new chips comes out, all you would have to do is swap out the board on the mini-pods for upgrades (same controller/powersetup and you would reuse the pod box/fan).

We should definitely have a conversation. I'd like to know what I can do to help.

Nice plan. Ideally, controller box would be just pi, since almost everyone got at least one.

I'm in to help financially or otherwise

Exactly!

jstefanop: if the problem with the "deal" is a too-large-a-minimum-buy, then perhaps several of us can get together... thoughts?

-a[g
 

If you can convince the powers that this is a great idea and get some built, I'm definitely interested. I can contribute a couple of BTC if that will help get this off the ground.

- zed

I could spare a bitcoin or 2  if you need it to buy chips.

a small 5 chip miner works for me. does not need to be a stick.

Even a 10-20 chip setup would be great. I'm all for chipping in. "no pun intended"

I'm keen to help any way I can. Getting something like this into all schools down under is my goal.

2 more bitcoins here!

i can toss a coin or two at this.

I am willing to contribute to a funding here as well

If this would be quiet/silent miner then I might be interested also.

I'd throw some BTC in as well if a solid and workable plan is put forward

I won't mind joining to club, but it should be a relatively cool and quiet design. Such small boxes are ideally for home miners who can't host a noisy and hot machine in their sitting- / bedroom.

I like this idea. I would definitely be interested.

A board that would fit on the old Gridseed "80 blade" heatsink/fans setups would be nice - even a small one that needed 3-5 boards to fill the entire heatsink assembly would be nice.

 Tons of those things around, and they were severely UNDERutilised on the old blade miners - probably good for 200 watts dissipation even pulled apart and used individually with any-old 92mm fan (the ones that came on them were pretty good flow for as quiet as they were).

Definitely interested in a 100ish watt miner.

Mr. jstefanop, can you just throw some light on how much these chips are costing you and what is the MOQ, please? It would really help us all.

MOQ = minimum order quantity

I would love too...but thats the part I'm under NDA about. Im in some talk with a few people to see how I can get this off the ground...but with the s9 announcement there is not much room for offering a more "competitive" miner with these chips, especially from a third party.

Can't help you on price but I was told by BW that for sales of chips to individuals and third party integrators there was a minimum order of 1 petahash.


Rich

That's only 20K chips, actually not too bad. Probably under $200K, hopefully closer to $100K.

I find it a bit amusing that a MOQ would be something other than a part count (i.e. the Quantity part of MOQ). Stating it in terms of dollars, or hashrate, or some other item which is actually DERIVED from a quantity value just seems goofy (and confusing). Maybe this is by design?

For this example, I am guessing that sidehack assumed a 50GH/chip hashrate?

Assumed?

FYI

Well if MOQ is really for 1Ph then its really cool, not like bitfury's $1m for 11ph woth of chips.

 Is that chip efficiency, or final miner efficiency?
 If it's chip it's .... nice but not impressive, bit worse than the S9 and about mid-range IIRC on the Bitfury chip.
 If it's miner.... that's VERY nice.

OK, I missed the mention of about 50GH per chip. If the part comes in at 55 GH, will they ship you fewer parts? What if you ordered enough other parts to build 10,000 stick miners, and they ship you 9200 chips? When you buy resistors to put on the your boards, do you order OHMS? How about LED's, do you order lumens? Maybe they should have just specified the weight of all those parts (MOQ 250 lbs).  :)

I'll bet that when a contract for actually sending parts is signed, there is a part count specified.

I just thinks it's silly to specify a quantity (i.e. a count) in terms of some other derived equivalent. It was probably done to try and hide, for a while, the $$/chip. In the end though, you figure that out in terms of how you price the hardware you sell.

Enough of my rant..........

NDA probably says he can't get too specific with the hash rate, but one would imagine that BW has stated that at some specified voltage and some specified clock rate the chip can produce 50 GH/s. Now, if you want to play games with voltage levels and clock rates you might be able to achieve a higher/lower hash rate and change efficiency in terms of J/GH.

It could be like sidehack's Compac miner. You want to run at 150MHz clock, then the "stock" voltage is OK, and you get 7 GH/s - 8 GH/s. You want to run like a demon at 450MHz? Crank the core voltage up to 0.800v, slap on some monster coolers and you can hash get 20+ GH/s. All from the same BM1384 chip.

Cheers,

- zed

Anyone hear about this? http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-asic-acquired-avalon/

Wonder if anything will change?

More than likely Avalon will not be selling any more miners,just self mining ala KnC  ::)

That's a shame to and will probable  end up like KNC filing bankrupt because they got to dam greedy and want it all ...


well any way i hope bitmain and BW both remain how they are and hope Jat can get a good supply of chips for some time to come .

Soooooo,no updates ???

Surprise suprise

Is glad to see things like this on the forum, small home players making new things hand-made, not another chinese company doing the same power-hungry box with fans again and again. Will keep an eye on here.

Well,keep an eye on it if ya want to,but no one is going to get a decent amount of chips to make enough for sales to the public ever happen  ::)

Nice initiative, do you guys have plans for heatsinks to passively cool these underclocked?

Any updates?

he still under NDA I'm sure why we haven't heard anything or BW thinks it's not worth to them to do what he wants to do and he may not want to give us the bad news .!!!! I'm not counting  on it anymore from any of the chip makers i going nothing but GPU miners  there cheaper much easier to set up or scrpt miners and I'm  making a few bucks  or all most as much i was when the S5 came out but will keep hoping they sell home miners again one day that are new and not old stuff when the new stuff comes out.

Long story short, they sold out their current wafer run before I could ink a deal. I gave the chips to another prominent hardware dev on here  ;D Hopefully something can materialize from this chip for their next batch. Meanwhile I will hopefully have something fun on the scrypt side of things with the new A4.

Great news, nice one! :)