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Title: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 04, 2013, 08:36:34 AM
Get an inverter or the proper DC gear.  Then drive your plugin hybrid to a free charging station, hopefully a close one.  Either drive real slow on the way home or have a friend give you a tow, or use your AAA.  Once the juice is in the garage hook you car's battery pack into your rig and you're good to go.

Yes there is the upfront cost of the hybrid or electric car.

Also if you're rural, you could load a flatbed with a bunch of deepcycle marine or heavy equipment batteries install a few small windmills and gen packs then you'll be charging on your way into town to get groceries.

Both ideas are fool proof.  Plus you could charge your battery loaded flatbed at a charging station.  Call it an experimental vehicle.

If you disagree; do you have a better idear?


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Lethn on March 04, 2013, 10:25:15 AM
The electricity isn't free because you're still getting it from the plug you numpty, it's like these environmentalists who claim that sort of thing is wonderful despite it coming from YEP coal! Which shows you just how much they really give a fuck about their precious planet.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Aseras on March 04, 2013, 02:20:54 PM
wouldn't it be easier to run an extension cord to your neighbor's house?


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: niko on March 04, 2013, 02:27:43 PM
wouldn't it be easier to run an extension cord to your neighbor's house?
This. Also, I suggest OP try http://otherpower.com/?q=Conservation/otherpower_experiments_bicycle.html


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: MrTeal on March 04, 2013, 02:30:19 PM
That all sounds very complicated. Why not just keep it plugged in where it is now, but mug a guy or two for the cash to pay your bill?


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Lethn on March 04, 2013, 05:05:47 PM
People just need to stop thinking mining is some kind of get rich quick scheme that they can make lots of profit from >_>


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: bowen151 on March 04, 2013, 05:23:10 PM
The electricity isn't free because you're still getting it from the plug you numpty

hahaha + 1, thanks Lethn, I was due a good laugh :) people are sheep these days.

OP why don't you just go the illegal route like the other retards do and bypass your electricity meter



Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: kibblesnbits on March 04, 2013, 06:44:20 PM
Yes there is the upfront cost of the hybrid or electric car.

Also if you're rural, you could load a flatbed with a bunch of deepcycle marine or heavy equipment batteries install a few small windmills and gen packs then you'll be charging on your way into town to get groceries.

Both ides are fool proof.  Plus you could charge your battery loaded flatbed at a charging station.  Call it an experimental vehicle.

Of you disagree you have a better idear?

So you get free electricity by spending $20k on an electric car, or probably 3x that amount spent on a flatbed of batteries? (that will need replacing in less than three years).  This is one of most bone-headed ideas I've heard in a long time.  Wait, i take that back.  Buying a 20k car just to have a battery on wheels that, in your scheme, would require a tow every day once it got a full "free" charge.  

Oy vey.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: crazyates on March 05, 2013, 03:07:21 AM
So you get free electricity by spending $20k on an electric car,
And ruining that car in a VERY short amount of time.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 07:27:00 AM
I left out you could go to all the public schools and donate stationary bikes with gen packs. You could call it pedal for profit, its a win/win, the little chubbies profit from losing weight and you'd profit from the electricity.

http://www.pedalpowergenerator.com/images/mns-diy-belt/diy-pedal-power-generator-kit_small.jpg


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 07:28:54 AM
The electricity isn't free because you're still getting it from the plug you numpty, it's like these environmentalists who claim that sort of thing is wonderful despite it coming from YEP coal! Which shows you just how much they really give a fuck about their precious planet.

You're thinking of it in the wrong way.  Open your mind, let go of logic and the facts of the physical world and you will see the greatness.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 07:30:02 AM
wouldn't it be easier to run an extension cord to your neighbor's house?

Yeah, but only if your neighbor's name is Rube Goldberg.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 07:32:58 AM
People just need to stop thinking mining is some kind of get rich quick scheme that they can make lots of profit from >_>

You cant?

Well if you implement my ideas as a business you sure could depreciate the equipment and maybe even get a $500million loan from barry's boondoggle energy projects.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 07:34:26 AM
That all sounds very complicated. Why not just keep it plugged in where it is now, but mug a guy or two for the cash to pay your bill?

Now, you have  good plan.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 07:36:31 AM
wouldn't it be easier to run an extension cord to your neighbor's house?
This. Also, I suggest OP try http://otherpower.com/?q=Conservation/otherpower_experiments_bicycle.html


I'm too lazy.  I'll force fat kids to pedal.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 07:39:43 AM
The electricity isn't free because you're still getting it from the plug you numpty

hahaha + 1, thanks Lethn, I was due a good laugh :) people are sheep these days.

OP why don't you just go the illegal route like the other retards do and bypass your electricity meter



Thanks!

Sarcasm has a lot of hang-time in some arenas. (My OP is intended as sarcasm(


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 07:43:12 AM
Yes there is the upfront cost of the hybrid or electric car.

Also if you're rural, you could load a flatbed with a bunch of deepcycle marine or heavy equipment batteries install a few small windmills and gen packs then you'll be charging on your way into town to get groceries.

Both ides are fool proof.  Plus you could charge your battery loaded flatbed at a charging station.  Call it an experimental vehicle.

Of you disagree you have a better idear?

So you get free electricity by spending $20k on an electric car, or probably 3x that amount spent on a flatbed of batteries? (that will need replacing in less than three years).  This is one of most bone-headed ideas I've heard in a long time.  Wait, i take that back.  Buying a 20k car just to have a battery on wheels that, in your scheme, would require a tow every day once it got a full "free" charge.  

Oy vey.

Some people have no vision.  If you think of this from a government spending point of view its Nobel Prize worthy.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: DrG on March 05, 2013, 08:00:09 AM
9 posts in a nonsensical thread.  You've met the obligatory requirement of 5 posts to escape newbieland... Lending section is that way -->


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 05, 2013, 08:14:05 AM
9 posts in a nonsensical thread.  You've met the obligatory requirement of 5 posts to escape newbieland... Lending section is that way -->

Remind me to put ur name on Santa's grumpy list.

And my ideas are legit.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: AmpEater on March 05, 2013, 01:02:40 PM
You guys are silly http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/saspartout/saspartout0907/saspartout090700006/5137873-solar-panels-on-the-roof-of-a-house.jpg

Wind turbines installed on a truck don't make energy, they convert the fuel used to power the truck into electricity.  You're better off running a generator.  Or just installing the wind turbines on a hill.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Merralea on March 05, 2013, 01:14:58 PM
You guys are silly [[solar panels]]
This. If you're going to blow $20K, at least do it on something that you won't have to fuck with every day.
Would take years to pay for itself, though.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: AmpEater on March 05, 2013, 01:18:07 PM
This. If you're going to blow $20K, at least do it on something that you won't have to fuck with every day.
Would take years to pay for itself, though.

How much electricity do you have to buy from the power co before they give you the rest for free?


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Merralea on March 05, 2013, 02:00:20 PM
This. If you're going to blow $20K, at least do it on something that you won't have to fuck with every day.
Would take years to pay for itself, though.

How much electricity do you have to buy from the power co before they give you the rest for free?
...sorry, not sure what you mean by this.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: 01BTC10 on March 05, 2013, 02:13:49 PM
http://images.angelpub.com/2010/46/6639/electricity-theft.jpg


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Aseras on March 05, 2013, 02:14:18 PM
This. If you're going to blow $20K, at least do it on something that you won't have to fuck with every day.
Would take years to pay for itself, though.

How much electricity do you have to buy from the power co before they give you the rest for free?

If you have solar or a wind turbine some other ability to generate "clean power" the energy companies in the US are required to buy your power at the highest rate available. They have to pick you over any other provider too. They have to install a meter and the equipment to regulate it for free. The meter runs backwards when you are generating and forwards when you aren't. If you have a surplus they credit you or cut you a check.

/ I have several neighbors with solar power who have <$20 electric bills year round.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: bowen151 on March 05, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
This. If you're going to blow $20K, at least do it on something that you won't have to fuck with every day.
Would take years to pay for itself, though.

How much electricity do you have to buy from the power co before they give you the rest for free?

Id guess around 51% of the company.

haha I have figured this bitch out. Check out my new miner running off free electric.

Feast your eyebags on this:

http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/274/823/462/462823274_195.jpg


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: KWH on March 05, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
Hmmmm....seems legit.


http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h428/keithh409/hD026C310_zps82512603.jpg


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: veteranBtc on March 05, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
wouldn't it be easier to run an extension cord to your neighbor's house?
That is what i call "the best solution"  :D ;D


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: glitch003 on March 13, 2013, 12:21:32 AM
Batteries in a flatbed?  Come on, just turn the car into one big mining rig and hang out at the charging station all day!


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: niko on March 13, 2013, 06:20:06 AM
OP, here is an idea you could take a careful step further (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20056715/man-caught-on-utility-pole-dangling-while-caught-on-fire). It is absolutely lined up with your way of thinking.

Quote
SOUTHFIELD, Mich. (myFOXDetroit.com) -

It was a gruesome scene at St. Martin's and Sunderland on Detroit's west side - a man on fire was caught dangling from a utility pole.

Neighbors spotted the man climbing up the pole around midnight. They shouted to him, asking him what he was doing. They say he didn't answer and shortly after that is when he caught on fire. 

The 52-year-old man was allegedly trying to steal electricity for a squatter staying at a nearby home. He was killed in the process and we're told part of the utility pole did have to be removed to retrieve the body.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Merralea on March 13, 2013, 09:45:01 AM
OP, here is an idea you could take a careful step further (http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20056715/man-caught-on-utility-pole-dangling-while-caught-on-fire). It is absolutely lined up with your way of thinking.

Quote
SOUTHFIELD, Mich. (myFOXDetroit.com) -

It was a gruesome scene at St. Martin's and Sunderland on Detroit's west side - a man on fire was caught dangling from a utility pole.

Neighbors spotted the man climbing up the pole around midnight. They shouted to him, asking him what he was doing. They say he didn't answer and shortly after that is when he caught on fire. 

The 52-year-old man was allegedly trying to steal electricity for a squatter staying at a nearby home. He was killed in the process and we're told part of the utility pole did have to be removed to retrieve the body.

I love it when problems solve themselves.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Gator-hex on March 13, 2013, 08:52:39 PM
In the UK we used to have free solar schemes,

You rented your roof to someone who installs solar panels on it, and they let you use as much as you want, while selling any left over to the grid.

Sadly the new government austerity measures have reduced the profitability of solar investment schemes like this... they were working too well!

Now they've turned it into a bank loan scheme to save the fractional reserve debt note system.  >:( (just like student loans)



Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Cranky4u on March 14, 2013, 04:26:39 AM
220W panel + 300W turbine into 24VDC dual car battery bank and back out via a 200W UPS for consumption by a 90W laptop and several FPGAs (soon to be ASICs).

Break even on the panel & turbine in 3 months. UPS from ebay for $2 (2nd hand). FPGA / ASICs <6 mths to break even.

All up, after <9 mths it owes you nothing and just gives cash  :)


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: niko on March 14, 2013, 05:05:19 AM
220W panel + 300W turbine into 24VDC dual car battery bank and back out via a 200W UPS for consumption by a 90W laptop and several FPGAs (soon to be ASICs).

Break even on the panel & turbine in 3 months. UPS from ebay for $2 (2nd hand). FPGA / ASICs <6 mths to break even.

All up, after <9 mths it owes you nothing and just gives cash you headaches  :)
FTFY


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: byronbb on March 14, 2013, 05:08:12 AM
The electricity isn't free because you're still getting it from the plug you numpty, it's like these environmentalists who claim that sort of thing is wonderful despite it coming from YEP coal! Which shows you just how much they really give a fuck about their precious planet.

Makes more sense for one giant engine, to power all the cars, than each car power itself.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Fuzzy on March 20, 2013, 06:56:22 PM
1. Start a Gym
2. Hook all machines up to generators
3. Offer lowest gym membership in town, and stay open 24/7
4. Profit!


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Tamerz on March 20, 2013, 09:04:33 PM
The electricity isn't free because you're still getting it from the plug you numpty, it's like these environmentalists who claim that sort of thing is wonderful despite it coming from YEP coal! Which shows you just how much they really give a fuck about their precious planet.

You do realize that the power plant is significantly more efficient than a bunch of car engines right? Yes, you are still using fossil fuel, but you are using significantly less.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Evan on March 21, 2013, 12:58:42 PM
I've never been a big fan of hybrid or electric vehicles. Sure, they use less gasoline, but there are many many hidden environmental costs.

For example, how many chemicals are needed to create those giant batteries that they use? How much more do they cost to make, compared to a subcompact economy car? How long do they last? What is the total carbon footprint? In other words, how much gasoline does it take to make a hybrid car?

If you look at all the inputs and outputs, hybrid cars are basically a con. There is no way that they can ever compete with a Ford Focus or a Chevy Aveo. Heck, a V6 Mercedes Benz Diesel probably has better total life cycle fuel efficiency.

And apparently, the Toyota Prius could even be worse for the environment than the dreaded Hummer.

That's a pretty bold statement... , but putting forward some interesting data:

    A Prius has a life span of 100,000 miles.
    A Hummer has a life span of 300,000 miles.
    Over its lifetime, a Prius costs $3.25 per mile driven.
    In contrast, the Hummer costs $1.95 per mile driven, and
    The Toyota Scion xB costs $0.48 per mile driven.
    The original fuel economy estimates for Hybrids were inflated 30% by the EPA.
    One of the Prius's battery factories causes so much environmental damage that NASA uses the lifeless land nearby to simulate moon landings.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 22, 2013, 01:59:14 AM
I've never been a big fan of hybrid or electric vehicles. Sure, they use less gasoline, but there are many many hidden environmental costs.

For example, how many chemicals are needed to create those giant batteries that they use? How much more do they cost to make, compared to a subcompact economy car? How long do they last? What is the total carbon footprint? In other words, how much gasoline does it take to make a hybrid car?

If you look at all the inputs and outputs, hybrid cars are basically a con. There is no way that they can ever compete with a Ford Focus or a Chevy Aveo. Heck, a V6 Mercedes Benz Diesel probably has better total life cycle fuel efficiency.

And apparently, the Toyota Prius could even be worse for the environment than the dreaded Hummer.

That's a pretty bold statement... , but putting forward some interesting data:

    A Prius has a life span of 100,000 miles.
    A Hummer has a life span of 300,000 miles.
    Over its lifetime, a Prius costs $3.25 per mile driven.
    In contrast, the Hummer costs $1.95 per mile driven, and
    The Toyota Scion xB costs $0.48 per mile driven.
    The original fuel economy estimates for Hybrids were inflated 30% by the EPA.
    One of the Prius's battery factories causes so much environmental damage that NASA uses the lifeless land nearby to simulate moon landings.


Great points.  The EPA is a sham.  They don't even use blended gasoline for fuel estimates, they use a special ultra refined pure gasoline blend for tests.

Still with the plugin hybrid you can get someone else, the taxpayer, to pay for charging your vehicle, thus your mining rig.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Richy_T on March 23, 2013, 06:38:51 PM

Sadly the new government austerity measures have reduced the profitability of solar investment schemes like this... they were working too well!


If they were working well, they wouldn't need funds extorted from the taxpayer to keep going.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: bonker on March 23, 2013, 10:14:53 PM
 I tow my rigs along behind electrified trains and dangle the plug on to the live rail. It works a treat!


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: cdog on March 23, 2013, 11:51:29 PM
Both ideas are fool proof.  

http://troll.me/images/yoda-senses/the-fail-is-strong-with-this-one-thumb.jpg


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 24, 2013, 03:25:02 AM
I tow my rigs along behind electrified trains and dangle the plug on to the live rail. It works a treat!

Now that is the kind of out of the box thinking that this thread is looking for.

Excellent IDEA!


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: Grover on March 24, 2013, 03:27:27 AM

You're going on Santa's meme abuse list.  :P

AND

How are my ideas in the OP not foolproof?


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: antimattercrusader on March 24, 2013, 04:27:17 AM
I can build solar panels for around $400 per kw out of broken cells, but it looks like crap and the cost to make it Texas hail proof will increase the price lol.

Hyropower is the perfect solution if you live near a creek/stream/whatever. Lot of potential there, especially in terms of mining rigs. I do not know why Brazil's hyropower is 0.52 per kw/h, unless they're trying to extract power for a city from a small stream and demand exceeds supply. Hydropower, done right, is very economical.


Title: Re: Easy Way to get Free Electricity for mining
Post by: 01BTC10 on March 24, 2013, 04:26:06 PM
0.08$/kWh hydro-power in Quebec/Canada  :D