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What is my PrimeDice username? Robert84. I've messaged MICRO, Edward and Stunna. Stunna and Edward didn't bother replying to me which is fucking disrespectful considering I lost 13.00 BTC to their website. MICRO replied with the shitty generic staff member replies claiming he can't refund me because of his bullshit excuses and how it was "my fault". Well guess what... It wasn't my fault at all.

Let's start with what happened.
I deposited 13.00 BTC into my primedice account after depositing many times throughout the day (6 BTC) with no problems. I never had problems before so I was not suspecting anything to happen. I was wrong! I deposited 13.00 BTC. Here is the TXID:
https://btc.blockr.io/tx/info/b30f1617b63e745d35ac9feaa2ac628fb0c1c6a7bb902a634900710c705d17b9
https://www.blockchain.info/txid/b30f1617b63e745d35ac9feaa2ac628fb0c1c6a7bb902a634900710c705d17b9

Now what happened is a lot of waiting. I waited for one confirmation, and I instantly refreshed my balance multiple times. I commented in the chat asking why my deposit didn't come, and some useres said to wait for two confirmations. Okay, no problem I thought. I waited until 6 confirmations (constantly checking for a balance and checking the withdrawal logs, nothing there. I even said in the chat "there is nothing in the logs" multiple times which is REALLY strange). At 6 confirmations when I got nothing, I contacted the  support. This was my exact message.

"I deposited 13 BTC. Username: Robert84
It has 6 confirmations.

Not showing in balance! No script, no tips, no withdraw, no bets.

https://blockchain.info/tx/b30f1617b63e745d35ac9feaa2ac628fb0c1c6a7bb902a634900710c705d17b9

https://blockchain.info/address/18PxmuaNemPRoMRJ8JYZoJGz1QjoV5tMfL"

TXID + my deposit address ^

A few minutes after that, I get this reply from support.

"Hey,

That got credited and cashed out from your account. Check your transaction logs.

Regards,
Mladen"

Now this is where I was pissed off. After a few back and worth angry messages from me, I decided to post on bitcointalk which is where I get accused of being compromised on my side which is absolute bullshit. I will explain why at the end. Here is what MICRO said to me in one of his posts;

"Well, you had to look away to send me a ticket and you noticed it when i told you to check tx logs.
Your deposit was credited at:   2016-05-28 16:33:35 and first cashout was made at 16:35:34 - 28/05/16 for 12.95 btc , second one was at    16:38:00 - 28/05/16 , both from different IP. "

According to him, I had to look away and send him a ticket. If you check the chat logs, you will see that I was in the chat and did not send a support ticket message until much later than that. So why is it that I did not get to see the balance when I was constantly refreshing right after it confirmed for the first, second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth time? And there was nothing in the logs AT ALL related to that withdrawal. Again, chat logs can prove that I was sending angry messages to the chat regarding my withdrawal.

Here is the part that I don't get.
"Your deposit was credited at:   2016-05-28 16:33:35 and first cashout was made at 16:35:34 - 28/05/16 for 12.95 btc , second one was at    16:38:00 - 28/05/16 , both from different IP"

My deposit was credited at 16:33:35, and the first cashout was made at 16:38:00. So in that 4 minutes and 25 seconds, how the hell is it possible that I did not get a single cent in my bitcoin balance? I saw 0.00000[some small amount] in my balance for the whole time from then until now.
Again, how is it possible that in 4 minutes between the first balance credit and the first withdrawal that I did not get to see anything in my balance while I was constantly updating it?.

Here is the WITHDRAWAL TXID, ADDRESS and THE FUND TRANSACTIONS FROM RIGHT NOW.
https://blockchain.info/tx/26866a99ea1be7e070a034bbde13ab126b79085c505514d4979c0849ac645833 - 12.95 BTC withdrawal
That 12.95 BTC was sent to https://blockchain.info/address/1MSvTAsA4BThfLEDFvPinegnBn3DTnzLfE who split it up into two transactions.
0.9: https://blockchain.info/address/1Hm7pouzFRjh61brAf5pVm5tZKa2a4y4yQ
12.1 something: https://blockchain.info/address/1GVyZhBdnLzsMRAci7DeR8hmydosXvDjah

If you go through that you will see very ODD transactions.
The majority of the funds are currently sitting at https://blockchain.info/address/1LYx2Dty19P6ktw9sgJBA9BJnncAYWxrgf

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Now, here is the reason I find it hard to believe that the site accuses me of being compromised.

USERNAME/PASSWORD/DB_LEAK: The username and password I used on Primediec was 100% unique, and has never been used on any other website before so this is out of the question.

SCRIPTS/MALWARE/BOTS: I'm always using an iPhone/iPad, and no one can install malware on an iOS device (if they could they wouldn't waste time with 13 btc)

BRUTE FORCE: After a few accounts the account gets locked out.

The only possible option I can think of is a fault from Primedice.
1: Didn't update my balance which led to the money disappearing.
2: I know for a fact I was not "compromised".

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RE-SUMMARY
DEPOSIT TXID & ADDRESS:
https://blockchain.info/tx/b30f1617b63e745d35ac9feaa2ac628fb0c1c6a7bb902a634900710c705d17b9 (13 BTC)

"WITHDRAWAL" TXID & ADDRESS
https://blockchain.info/tx/26866a99ea1be7e070a034bbde13ab126b79085c505514d4979c0849ac645833

1JcU9b7Q4DYeVBxgbRZ2RY6sFCMXAcWwgy - > 1MSvTAsA4BThfLEDFvPinegnBn3DTnzLfE - > 1GVyZhBdnLzsMRAci7DeR8hmydosXvDjah - > MORE MOVING -> FINALLY RESTING AT 1LYx2Dty19P6ktw9sgJBA9BJnncAYWxrgf

14 BTC is one year worth of money to me so I will not let this go, becasue I am sure that it is a small amount to primedice that they can make back within less than a day or two.

Thanks for reading. Any questions, I'll be able to answer. This will be posted on multiple bitcoin websites within a few hours if no staff member replies.

I am very sorry you lost that much money, and sorry before i did not believe you that you lost this ammount
But let's face it you said yourself 13 bitcoins is 1 year of income for you right?
So why in the world you deposit a such ammount on primedice only because people said you should show them you really have this much money?
If i where you i would just tell them to fuck off if they not belive you it's up to them or not!
Now the problem is still you vs primedice, you say primedice scammed you, and primedice say that it's your fault.
It's you vs primedice.
If you have solid evidence that they scammed you, you should go to the police or your laywer to open a lawsuit against them.
But again it was stupid to move a such big ammount on primedice only to proof yourself, you could simply signed a message to show you have that much

Again sorry for this man it's a big pack of money

I'm seriously hoping it doesn't have to come to that. It will take a lot of money and effort to sue a company like Primedice over 13.00 BTC. Solid evidence would be the logs and a bit more I guess

Can you tell me what is the Software version on the iphone or ipad ?
And is it jailbroken?

And you dont think its possible that somebody just cracked your pw?

iOS 9.2 on both. Jailbreak is not possible. They were both factory reset a week ago.

@GonerGenesis
Nope. Super secure password, and Primedice has brute force prevention by locking you out after a few incorrect tries.

Your story is not consistent. Opening yet another Thread won't change that.

Please explain how it is not consistent? Other than one post saying I used an iPhone and one saying I used an iPad. I used both, and I can take a photo of both with Bticointalk in the backgorund if you want.

Ios is not safe from malware jailbroken or not does not matter!

Here some links for you

http://neurogadget.com/2015/10/15/why-iphones-are-not-safe-from-new-ios-malware/17630

https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/product_id-15556/Apple-Iphone-Os.html

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2016/01/18/4-reasons-not-to-install-ios-9-2-5-reasons-to-do-it/

The chance of me being infected on my iOS device one week after a factory reset is almost nil.
I have never installed a third party app, never gone on any untrustable websites (Only gone on bitcointalk, google, hf, "primedice")

I'm sorry, but your story has weak points. You do realize, that even if you're innocent and got robbed, PD can't just trust everyone saying their money was stolen, right? Stating this, you say there was no info in logs, but you can't prove it. It's just your word. On the other hand, Micro posted exact times of depo and withdrawal. You, with all respect, are some anonymous guy from internet, and PD is one of the most respectable and trustable bitcoin gambling sites ever. Your word against their, who do you think people will believe? I'm sorry, but you were scammed and your money is gone. Account security is owner's thing to do. Even if every word you say is true, PD is not insurance agency and will never ever refund that money. If they do it once, they'd be flowed with stories like that. Nothing you can do about it. Some guy you never saw before from forum asked you to depo money and you did it. WHY??? Take a lesson from it (hard lesson, I admit) and never do it again. Think twice before you trust anyone on the internet, that's it. And that is for the future, as this case is definitely over. Sorry.

Still you say that primedice hacked you, but you only say that your password and username was unique this is not a valid proof that you got scammed by them.

Try to download norton antivirus for ios it's free for 30 days and do a scan of your devices!

All if you are talking senselessly. This dude just got scammed of a whopping 13btc and all you guys start saying is a malware inbhis device. Did you read where he said the he didnt even see his balance? , atleast if he saw his balance before it disappeared I will go with the malware claim. In this case he didn't even see his balance.
You are all giving stnna reasons to do bigger scams. Next, someone will deposit 100btc , it will disappear andbu guys will come saying same thing that its a malware and players fault. Let's face real facts, this dude got scammed.

Thanks for being the one person who actually believes me man

I know you very sad. Pretty sure primedice wouldn't be so popular if it was a scam. And you're gambling. You should scan your computer.

Can you not read? I was NOT using a computer.

All these casino site owners are crooks. The only site I can trust with huge Btc is betking. That's not to say he can't scam . but possibility is low. PD is one the worst sites. Wonder why they so popular. If they don't or can't rig u, they steal us coins. And their support is worst support ever

Sorry, I read content quickly.

he still fail to provide SOLID PROOF that primedice hacked him
easy to make claims but where is the proof

People like you will give pd reason to pull out more scam stunts.
What proofs do you need. There have been several similar claims of pd doing samething. Why is it only there that this shit happens

I've been awake for two fucking days trying to fix this shit. I've been messaging all the staff, talking non stop on the chat, making so many threads, everything. What the fuck do you want.
You only gamble with cents that you earn with your shitty signature, that was 13 BTC that I lost. If you were in my position you'd be like me but probably 5 times worse. What more fucking PROOF do you want.


Tomorrow I'm getting the claim papers.

He sure got scammed, but not by PD.

Hey,

You can keep going on and on. Its a fact that you got your account compromised. And there is no way we would ever refund that.

Primedice deals with 100s of btc on balance of many players every single day , we paid out hufflepuff 2000+ btc just because we could not provide proof that he is exploiting.

We have players with 500+ profits .

One of them is MrVicenzo.

It would be very very stupid for us to steal 13 btc from anybody and ruin ours impeccable reputation for being fair and no1 dice site on the planet.


So please stop spreading bullshit about us when you are well aware that you got compromised.
In ours topic you pointed to a user and said you are pretty sure he has your balance.

But you said it's not, I was curious.

If you can afford to pay a cheater over 2,000 BTC, why the fuck can't you pay someone who legit lost their money unfairly 13 BTC? Even half of that would make me happy!

I start to lose my patience here!h
Where the F U C K is your PROOF that primedice scammed you!?
A couple of txid's is NOT a proof at all!
Post real evidence or just go away please

Alright you fucking third world scum bag, what PROOF IF ENOUGH FOR YOUR FUCKING EYES?
DO YOU NOT REALISE THE WHOLE REASON IM IN THIS FUCKING MESS IS BECAUSE OF CUNTS LIKE YOU BEGGING FOR PROOF ALL THE FUCKING TIME? IM SO SICK OF THIS SHIT. IF ALL THE BEGGARS WERENT BEGGING ME TO SHOW PROOF I WOUOLDNT HAVE LOST MY 13 FUCKING BITCOIN. NOW GO AHEAD AND FUCKING TELL ME, WHAT PROOF DO YOU WANT.

Ok so only because you post a couple of txid and other bullshit it's a solid proof you got scammed by primedice?
I can just say your own fault to transfer 13 bitcoins to a gambling website!
you messed up now you pay the price for this!

YOU DID NOT NEED TO TRANSFER 13 BITCOINS TO SHOW THEM YOU HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY A SIMPLE SIGNED MESSAGE FROM YOUR WALLET WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH

How the FUCK is it my fault? Isn't PRIMEDICE the #1 gambling website? So why the fuvj is it not safe to deposit. Don't act like you're perfect, if this was you in the same situation, you would probably suicide.

Obviously it would be impossible for OP to give proof. What would exactly qualify as proof? It would be impossible for PD to post proof too. They could show proof that the IPs were different, but that could mean either compromised, OP on VPN or in theory PD employee. So not really proof.

I don't know OP at all. But I did see him in another chat and I do estimate that he is telling the truth here. That being said, with the trust record of PD, I also think they tell the truth.

Overall, one of the most likely reasons still seems a phishing site to me. I told OP that before, but I just want to emphasize that being on iOS doesn't help against phishing. You could have google-ed for PD and clicked a google ad on top that links to a PD phishing site. Or you could have clicked some link in a chat that linked to a fake phishing PD site. Although I am sure you disagree with this theory, you could perhaps check the browser history for all sites you visited?



BTW, the policy of not refunding compromised accounts is an obvious one. You have to understand that this would open up opportunities for scammers to claim the same thing. I am absolutely not saying that you are doing that, just explaining why they cannot really give refunds for that.

Still.. trying to find the cause of the (potential) compromising, seems good to me. GL and sorry for loss, either way.

I understand what you're saying, but it wasn't Phising and I know that for a fact because when I deposit I go to my wallet, previous transactions and use the one deposit address. And the site had PRIMEDICE.com, I always check, saved credentials, etc.

I'm just saying that I'm not understanding how I was compromised when everything was secure on my end.

And if not that, why did the balance not show up in the time between it credited and it was withdrawn.

I not act like i am perfect but not that stupid to deposit 13 bitcoins
You could split it up
But you only did the deposit to proof you have the coins and this is stupid!

The Proof you would need is to show that the withdraw address is connected to primedice itself. So since that will be mostly impossible I'm feel very sorry for you but you're just fucked. If it was PD or someone else we'll never know. Since I trust PD so far I still think you got hacked somehow.

Even this is not a valid proof!
It will be very hard for op to proof this case!
He should run some antivirus on his ios devices to check if he maybe to infected or not!

Man if you don't have something to say , just shut the fuck up.. I have deposited more than 80btc in a gbling site and it went good. The fact that u can't afford 13btc shouldnt make you hate him indirectly and make it look like he is stupid to have deposited that. Most of you talking trash have never deposited up to 1 Btc before so u don't know the pain of loosing that much Btc. Get ur ass out of this topic if u have nothing reasonable to say

Yes and now?

Only because you deposit 80 bitcoins means what exactly ?

Op have fucked up and now he pay the price for this easy and simple!
Besides of this he ONLY did the deposit to show he have the bitcoins and this is just idiotic and dumb!
He could simply sign his wallet to proof that he have the coins!
Anyway why he needed to proof this? only to show how big his e-penis is?!
I have as well over 10 bitcoins and you think if you call me a lier i will just send them to xy as proof?!
LOL this topic is usless!

I lost 0,3 btc on primedice as well,the instant the money showed up,someone withdrew to a different bitcoin address.
My computer is safe as well as my password.
Also,I'd like to say that this is the first time I visited PD,so I could not have fallen victim to phishing attempts.
I decided not to pursue the matter further,because the amount that I lost was trivial.However if I had lost 13 bitcoins,I would be pretty pissed off.
Anyways what the guy I quoted is saying is pretty on spot,I realise they cannot do anything,because this is the internet.If someone genuinely gets his refund,then 50 more cases will popup,falsely claiming that they were hacked too.
Also there is not definitive evidence on either side.
There's a wise saying that says "where there's smoke,there's fire".Multiple cases of people getting hacked are not random and isolated incidents.
Something is up with primedice,and I would strongly suggest protecting your account.
I would like to wish good luck on the OP,however i'm not sure primedice can do anything other than making sure their website is 100% safe.
One final thought,is that the "scammer" probably isn't affiliated with primedice.A website such as theirs,makes tons of money every day,so it would be obvious that risking the site's reputation is totally not worth it on the long run.

At the end of the day who knows what goes on behind closed doors, Ive lost over 60 btc on primedice in the last year,
To be honest I have been skeptical about there system and in paticular there "max bet" system that just seems too pre programed to my feeling...

But this is a land where words are words and actions are actions.. the ball is in your court my friend. do as you wish.

It's still stupid to deposit 13 bitcoins only to show proof he have the money!!
Why he did not only sign his wallet if he was about to brag about it!?

Sorry to hear man you lost funds ::)

I find it really funny that people jumping in to conclusion that always user of let say PD or localbitcoins is at fault of any loss.

Funny part is that easy is to claim "hacked /malware computer of user" while user when accusing with simple facts and proofs is called names and always is take as the guilty one. What if very complicated software failed on PD side? User only must log in and deposit and play. All hard "work" is on PD side.
But let's face it, every system/script have flaws/errors.

not saying that i believe OP but let see what happened to other guy using localbitcoins.com which lost over 60BTC.

http://bristolbtc.blogspot.co.uk/

Again please dont take it wrong way, the guy who complained there is pro trader and he has history of being always straight.

https://localbitcoins.com/forums/#!/general-discussion:odd-lbc-wallet-thefts (https://localbitcoins.com/forums/#!/general-discussion:odd-lbc-wallet-thefts)

Yet again responses on lbc forum suggest he done something wrong.

My point is please do not jump on band wagon and shout as one person to OP that's his fault without getting all things right and square.

Sounds like whoever was pushing to "show proof" of many btc by depositing into the balance to show it, is a smart person who got the OP to deposit all his 13 btc, then just ripped him off, already knowing he had access to his account, hense the 2 diff ip addresses. Sounds pretty clear cut to me.

If someone asked me to make a big deposit to "prove" my holdings, I would know there was something sketchy going on, its pretty obviously a phish.

It is the same as if I knew I had the op's login credentials, I see him in the chat room, and I challenge him to make a deposit to show me he has more than just dust to his name, he gets his ego in a bunch and makes a nice 13btc deposit then while trying to show it off to everyone, I already am in his account emptying it out. When he finally realizes what happened, I am long gone.

That doesnt make any sense. You should learn about how provably fair works and if you are skeptical make sure to verify every single bet you make.

So why didn't my balance update? 4 minutes is plenty of time for me to withdraw, which is what I planned to do. I was constantly refreshing between that time and my balance didn't update a single time, so explain that.

Its not about how u feel.the site is a scam. If they see that they cant rig you, they come upp with other ways to steal your coins like they just did to this fellow.

"Your deposit was credited at:   2016-05-28 16:33:35 and first cashout was made at 16:35:34 - 28/05/16 for 12.95 btc , second one was at    16:38:00 - 28/05/16 , both from different IP"

2 minutes from deposit to 1st cashout, 4,5 minutes from deposit to 2nd cashout. If you indeed did refresh in intervals smaller than 2 minutes, there had to be a point where balance changed.
If it didn't, then it sure sounds bad, or someone is not telling the truth.

I trust primedice, but it would be nice to see a bit wider explanation as to what exactly happened.

Man, save this verification and provably fair shit and nonsense. You guys have used those words to scam thousands of btcs.
And pleasrme dont smartly try to deviate from the main topic. Main topic is uou scammed him of 13btc. Talk about that. Dont talk provably fair here. There can always be a new thread for that.

Sounds like a inverse scam to me to make PD lose reputation. I simply will not believe that a newbie posted that he got scammed by PD who have probably gave away almost thousands of BTC since it's inception. For all we know, op could have withdrawn the balance himself and try to fake a btc steal by PD to get back "13btc".

I am amused that op thinks there ain't malware of any sort for malware devices  ::)

OP seems so angry that his 13 btc got stolen by PD, when 13btc to primedice high rollers are like peanuts lost

There are always two sides of a story.

In other news, I am satoshi. Get it?  ::)

Yes ure right, but we can only speculate what happened. Given the fact that the guy doesn't seam as usual scammers and more likely that he's been robbed by someone,
it would be nice if the matter was approached a tad more serious on the PD side.

So, I have a question: does PrimeDice allow a single account to login from different IP's simultaneously?  I've been an online gambler for a long time and that just seems like a point of failure for security purposes.

And, was coinbase also involved in the second transaction?

Lastly, OP, is it possible that your Bct and PB accounts have similar credentials?  There was an awful lot of banter in your threads trying to get you to push your transaction back as proof.  Maybe, you could match a few IP's and narrow stuff down a little.

It honestly never updated in front of me. I complained a bunch of times in the chat asking why I didn't get my deposit whilst constantly refreshing.
It's not a fault on my side, it's a fault in primedice' deposit system.

To be frank i must say that stunna is a shit , he never replies to his customers for support , he thinks that giving away 0.01BTC to forum members is the best way to get incoming scam.
I suggest DT members to pressurize admin of PD to be modest and reply to people's comment and grievances.

I thought Stunna was a female?
And neither Stuna nor Edward have returned my emails.
Such a shame they would do something like this for a small amount of their money.

i see Micro replying here , it is good , but stunna is really a shit he/she baits the forum with free 0.01BTC and gets eventually a lot in return from people like you.

I wish if Micro can convenience to change his/her(stunna) nature and be polite and responsive towards customers.

I created my PD account and lost its password , i asked it to stunna and Edward and they never reply to it. it has been over 15-20 days.

now this is new . i thought primedice was very safe since it is one of the oldest and most reputed casino in bitcoin gambling industry i did see robert asking for his money in chat . is this confirmed? that he lost his 13 btc ? or any script caused him that ?

I never used a script my friend. Please read the thread :)

yes just now i went through it fully . sad man really sad . i feel sorry for you and thanks for sharing mate . i am out of gambling now . if primedice scams then i cant trust any other sites. hope they repay you :)

It was still very stupid from op to deposit 13 bitcoins only to proof he have so much!
A signed wallet would be much more safer and proof the same!
Now maybe the guy who pushed you to proof it have robed you who know

There was no "the guy". There was a bunch of people asking for proof and he was just one of the many beggars.

@janymano I'm not under 18 dumb ass, and I was never using a VPN to connect. I'm not that retarded,

Claim is bullshit. I just deposited 8 btc rolled up to 10 and cashed out.. its not a scam.. You most likley have malware or send coins to wrong address.

Stunna & primedice run a tight ship. Yes the mods can be rather blunt some days with customers i have had to deal with sloppy mod's a few times there.

But its not a scam and they would not steal your coins.

Oh, yep. I deposited 6 BTC many times, nothing happened other than me losing a few BTC and earning it back on other sites to come try again.

But as soon a s I deposit 13 BTC..

You are 1 btc in profit at primedice. Again you are not telling the truth.

Also idk how the guy above knows u are under 18 but if that is true and since you are from one of countries restricted from depositing you had to use vpn to deposit.

I would rly suggest you to switch your attention at finding out where you fucked up with your security and fix that than still going on how we scammed you when that is clearly not the case.

The guy has 1 post, he doesn't know shit about me. And I was not using a VPN, check you're IP ts. I have the same ip now that I did when I logged in every time.

Dude you just called 13btc a small amount?
Dude send me 0.3btc please lol

"a small amount of their money"

"their money"

dude that was all my money but like 1-2 days worth to the,

Seriously stunna is real smelly shit. That dude is only there to scam people of their hard earned cash. How with you be operating a site and not reply to messages.
I hope someone worst than Hufflepuff revisits that site and close it for good

No matter how much I don't like Primedice due to losing around 4 BTC I find it hard to believe that anyone working at PD would consider stealing your deposit. Maybe you used a dodgy WiFi hotspot ?

I'm not living in Nigeria, I have my own private wifi -.-

@RichGang
2 days no reply, bullshit.

You made the most sensless comment on this thread. So simply because a newbie called a hero member or legendary member a scammer you come talking shit? Ok if a legendary member gt scammed you will believe 100% right?
Dude u are definition of stupid.
People like you make scammers like stunna proud

The guy is just scamming to make 3 cents with his signature campaign.

I DONT GET WHY PEOPLE COME HERE TO BLAME THIS DUDE. HE GOT SCAMMED PLAN AND SIMPLE. I BET HE WAS WINNING SO SINCE STUNNA COULDNT RIG, HE JUST SCAMMED HIM. KNOWING THAT ONCE THE VICTIM POST IT, EVERY IDIOT WILL ASK OF STUPID PROOF

Those beggars are the only reasOn I even bothered to deposit. Low life's.

Those faucet beggers made me loose a tone of Btc once. Those idiots get angry when u win and happy when u loose.

You know what's funny?
Every time I see my threads in the gambling section, over 100 replies. I just think of it as $3 revenue for the spammers in there.

Man now you start be be rasist?

Only because it's nigeria you think people are poor or less valuable than any other human?

I am very very happy you lost this money it seems like you are a rasist

He is not racist. Nigeria got one of the worst internet. Dude, U have been licking stnnas asshole throughout this post

Nigeria is a country not a race, please state how I was being racist?
I could have said any country and it would be the same thing, doesn't mean anything but just a way to get a point across. Now get off my thread you signature spamming moron

Agreed to that . the only person who understands his/her situation is the one who has lost the money. you have provided good proofs and everything and still some people come and say you are doing to give PD bad reputation .

Yes 100% proof i will deposit now 1 bitcoin and whitdraw it and claim primedice scammed me.

My proof is 1 txid and i only use my super secure ipad and there can be 100% no malware ::)

If I was a scammer I would have given up within an hour but I'm not a fucking scammer like you. Now I'll say itothat me more time; get the fuck off my thread if you know what's good for you or you won't see what's coming.

You just post over and over because you think primedice will finally give up and pay you.

Look again even if you got scammed by them why the fucking hell you not only signed your wallet to proof you have it

no deposit 200 bitcoins using your super secure ipad and post your one txid proof and then lets see what happens . although know one thing scammers are brilliant people than normal . they dont scam all . 10 people invest 1 bitcoin , they get 10 bitcoins happy one person invests 13 btc . boom scammed now the site has the support of 10 people and all of them crush the one persons reasons and proof who has lost all his money .

Wtf. I am speechless. How much are u laid to lick stunnas ass

That's exactly what happens

Lol i not lick anyone
My question is more than valid why he not simply signed his wallet instead of moving so much cash around the internet

You ain't a gambler so you won't understand. Dude when u are gambling and tensed , you don't think of signatures. I have deposited 100btc IN A casino site and didn't sign shit

Lol the guy doesn't have any BTC other than spam post ones to gamble with.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg15033628#msg15033628 wow

No i am not a gambler ::) i play each day on different websites but i am not so stupid to deposit 13 coins at once i owe them belive it or not but he did not needed to do so

The most logical explanation follows the "hacker" to be the individual asking for proof of ownership of 13 coins.

Hello

I need help very quick!

Today 2 guys on primedice told me that i am some broke idiot and have no money so i got pissed and have done a 30 bitcoins deposit just to proof that i have so much money and to grow up my e-penis.

But the money never arrived in my balance primedice scammed me help :(

*this post should not be taken serious*

So I guess in return, this is why you invest in a good non pc or laptop.

Word of advice, malware and viruses are less likely to be on a mac then a pc. So invest with a right operating system.

PC is known to get hit with viruses yet you see little known to macs, because of its operating system itself. Not saying mac is any better, but its harder to encode a virus to target towards macs then pc.

Wait, so some idiot thinks he can pressure PD into giving him 13 BTC with some lame sob story? Give it up, not a person or company in the world would give your whiny ass any money.

Fuck off you cunt, don't talk shit if you don't know what's it's like being on the other side. Fucking jack ass's everywhere on this forum. Had it not been for the cunts begging to show proof I would have left this shit instantly

Ipad's are more secure than other brand tablets, but to say that they are super secure is not the right thing to do. A good hacker has to do a little effort to hack into your ipad, for example u download an app and give permission to the app to do read all ir information without u knowing that. Also a backdoor could be included in the app, but mostly apple reviews all apps before publishing them into the store, which other brands don't do and make it more vulnarable.

Ipad's do have quite high security. Apple scan all of their software products from ITunes so it is possibly hard to get into them to install an input logger. This is the only way that people could know the password.

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It would be interesting to know if the password was used on other accounts at the time?

I don't think this is funny anyway, if he lies or not

You are so wrong!

How you think the ios jailbreak for 3.x or was it 4.x? was done?
By INJECTING via browser by simply visiting it!
So it's "easy" to infect ios if there is any bug that is maybe not even public yet!

This is not the only bullshit apple has been done so far, in a lot app's there are unknow hiden things.

Remember the "tetris" game? it was in reality some  gba emulator ^^

You act like there are professionals targeting me. Have you not seen what I said? I factory reset a week ago, and I haven't installed any apps PLUS I'm using Sophos antivirus.

If you have 100 btc or a collection to the amount, that just means you either have money to blow or youre just ignoring mistakes that people already made.

You sit on 100 btc now before this halving and after the halving price sets in youre already made profit.

Stolee, would you therefore be able to post your entire browser history from ALL browsers on that IPad to further find the problem?
Primedice workers have stated multiple times that they are not at fault and are slightly more believable even though no evidence has been given. I saw a post of yours about you offering hacing services, so this could have simply been a revenge attack on you?

Revenge? Lmao.

what the shit ar u talking about, no matter he is or not yet 18 yrs, this kind of discovery can rescue more kind of people from losing funds, if primedice goes insolvent as confirmed.

Well he was breaking ToS in many ways. But ofc that does not mean we would take his coins.

As i will say one last time he got his account compromised.

how can you prove he is breaking your ToS? anyway, you guys might reserve rights to freeze or even launder the users funds out at any time if i remembered correctly, even you are not doing this here.

you need a straight or an alternate method to resolve his accusation after all, unless he is like double spending.

He logged in multiple times from IP that is from a country we don't allow deposits from. He made account with that IP.
Also if its true that he is under 18 that is one more thing. But we cant know that.

There is no other way to resolve this. There is no way for us to tell if you login using vpn and cashout or it was somebody else that got access to your account. Therefore all we can see is that his money is cashed out from different IP than he was using.

Nobody of Primedice staff , admins , developers cant access his account without changing his password. All passwords on primedice are hashed and nobody of us can see them.

Do you know how easy it is to crack a hash these days? Passwords like alzactroniuar_3 are being cracked in minutes with masks. I did not log in with a VPN, I am not under 18, and I did not cash out the money. Why wouldn't I habe given up by now?

lmao grammar. anyway, give him a refund if the original owner is confirmed, because you are in suspicion to some of us. ???

There is no way we would ever give a refund for this. If player gets his account compromised due to his error there is no way we can refund that.
Doesn't matter how big or small amount it is.

Btw stolee you did give up when you sent me that pm with a sob story and tried to accept even half refund. Why would you accept half refund if you are 100% sure it was not your fault?

Anyway, i can guarantee you that you wont get a refund. As i said before i would focus my attention on trying to find how i got compromised instead of posting bs like this here.

I originally had 6 BTC which I gambled up to 13. Anything near 6 BTC is good to me, because now I'm fucking broke left with nothing and it's not my fault it's PRIMEDICE'. Why do they allow a different IP to log on simultaneously? Why do they not country lock? Why do they not verify big withdrawals?

Micro or Stolee, could you post the IP addresses that were not Stolee's or pass them to a staff member on the forum to see if they can track down the user who stole the coins and/or the Bitcoin address the coins were sent to?
That is the only real way that this can be resolved.
It may also be useful for you primedice team to view how the account could have been compromised like you said above in order to get a greater insight as to how the Bitcoins were taken.

Hm, well that is a good idea. But i will have to ask Admins if i can disclose such information. I honestly don't see why not.
I will update on this as soon as i hear from them.

I don't have any skin in this game, and never had many problems with PD before they blocked USA, but I think you are now doing the right thing, so I tip my hat off to you sir.   I don't know who is correct here, but I'm glad to see you actually trying to help this fellow out. I have to admit, if it were me, I'd be pretty upset too, so you are actually helping your site's rep here, no matter what the outcome is, but transparency and helpfullness goes a long way to help keep building PD's solid rep so far. :)

Look forward to seeing how this plays out.. I think Stolee posted all the btc addresses and tx's in the OP, but I lost track where the coins finally went to... :P

Is this true? 2 IPs from different countries logged at the same time and you still allowed a withdrawal?

Best and easiest way to scam. Anyone know how much it cost to open a site like primedice. I wanna start up this scam. If you deposit in my site i rig you , if i cant rig u, i just steal your cash knowing that when u come talk shit on bitcointalk or other forums, idiots will ask u for proof which u wont be able to provide.  Send me offers

Jesus. Seriously? I'm going to leave you a neg right now you moron...  ::)

Oh well look who is up. Well first thing primedice is a large site and many highrollers play there. They have more than 10-15+ btc or more than it at a time. I don't see any reason of primedice stealing only the OP's  balance and draining all its reputation it earned over a last 3-4 years.

Hacking, phising has become common in this bitcoin world. So i think it is better to put up some measures to protect accounts with 2FA and hard passwords(like hash of your name or any keyword).Negligience from the OP side and putting all the blame to primedice is not cool at all.

I'm not retarded. I know all the hacking tricks in the book so don't try to tell me I was hacked or fell for one of those things. I bet you don't know a single thing about Phising yet you still act like you're a professional. Phising isn't as simple as me signing up on to a website lol. I'll obviously notice the difference. Besides, I used one deposit address from my first time so that's out of the question and my password WS hard.

Sorry to hear u got scammed bro

I agree on that. Hats off for MICRO for still being that patient after all those accusations from the OP, where it's obvious that it's not directly PD's fault.

Maybe theymos would agree on matching the IP address used for the withdrawal on PrimeDice vs IP addresses used on BCT at that time. I bet the thief wasn't that careful to switch IP addresses for posting here - if he has an account here.

This could become a decent cooperation between the forum and an established service here, and it can send a positive sign. People still have to protect themselves from scams here, but scammers have to be prepared to get caught.

Very good idea, imho.

Oky, I got all clear for this.

IP that stolen his bitcoins is:    45.219.114.86
Let me know if i should contact forum admins or you will stolee.

I also decided to get the IPs from all other cases when money got stolen and send them in a list to forum admins to try and find some matches.
I know its a slim chance since most of them are somewhat smart enough to use vpn but still wont hurt to try.

LOL... Good thinking . We would never be where we are if we ever would do such things.
Every casino earns enough most of the time with small house edge. Doesn't matter how much it costs to run primedice if we cover it from profits.

I don't know if you saw recent posts on ours main topic. MrVicenzo is +400 bitcoins. Every his deposit is huge.
And that is only 1 guy from many. You can take look at highroller tab and estimate how much money is in primedice balances at any given moment.

Primedice is No.1 and most trustworthy site on the planet for a reason.

Good idea!

I hope you can catch some scammers.

But you never replied to my question:

http://whoislookupdb.com/whois-45.219.114.86

Actually, if we include Stolee's, then 3 people with 3 different IPs from 3 different country logged on at the same time.
There may have just been two people (or one if you suspect it was Stolee - which is unlikely).
Thank you!

What do you mean 3 people ?

It would be only him and the attacker.

And reason why we allow that is that we dont want to limit ours customers. We want you to have freedom of protecting your privacy using vpn on pc, laptop, phone and you can have different ip on each of them.
Besides doesn't matter if its in the same time.

Restrictions like that are not needed if players protect theirs accounts.

If you have very strong password , 2fA and safe pc. And you don't fall for pshising attacks you will never have problems keeping your accounts safe.
Even strong password without 2fA is enough .

2FA does take a lot of time though.. Not to the value of 13BTC though!
There could be 3 people if the attacker worked in a group, as poeple don't tend to do phishing attempts on their won, it is better to get more people as it is more believable.
Also, using an extra person makes it look like his password is really weak as three people got it!
Also, can you by any chance also post the Addresses that these were sent to as users of this forum don't hae access to IPs but do have access to searching the addresses.
You may want to send the information to admins and some moderators and members of staff to see if they can find it to remove the pressure from the Admins to do all of the tasks.

This ^^^^, 100%... I think half these guys are just posting for sig campaigns here... People also get key logged too, so who knows when they stole his password or even how long it's been the same or existed but you guys I guess.  :P

Stolee posted transactions somewhere here. Check first posts.

You're probably right.

Do you ask for a 2FA code when withdrawing?

If you don't you should.

I doubt it - 2FA is usually all or nothing for most sites.... Many people don't have a smartphone, so they must use a password.

sorry to hear that 13btc lost...hope this will be put into action s well..cheers

i think many gambling site now will be turn to scam now because of price hike.. i feel sorry for you. this is the same scenario in cloudbet. :/

If this is true, have you considered that your account may have been compromised before you even made the deposit? The user who suggested that you deposit to PD to show your money may be the perpetrator here.

On a side note, next time you feel like flaunting your "wealth" just sign a message from your own address.

BlBlabla blablabla and 13btc gone