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So we've created find the coin after reviews from this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1482547.msg14941612#msg14941612)


Live Demo Request by: JasonXG (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1498398.msg15221501#msg15221501)

Live Demo (http://21faucet.com) (Desktop browsers only)


Screenshots ~ WebApp Request by: RussianRaibow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1498398.msg15219067#msg15219067), mobnepal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1498398.msg15092615#msg15092615)

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How to PLAY

There is 5 rounds, in each one you have 30 seconds to click on a box to luckily find the Satoshi.
The person to find the most Satoshis Wins the game.

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Notes:
>This would only be a Web App, based on consensus.
>Please don't hang me for the UI, its just a 5 minute sketch.

Please give us your reviews.

Least you could do is give more information about the website or the App.Isn't it similar like Satoshi Mines but simply 4 boxes instead.How do you assure provable fairness by this ? You know the box user clicks can always be manipulated.The survival of such games on App Store is not long until google finds out you can earn money through it.

For advanced details (users)

The location of the Satoshi coin is stored in the server. Each box only has a tag (1,2,3,4), once it is clicked, it will send the tag off to the server to check if the coin is in that box.

On the server we use TYPE random_int ( TYPE min , TYPE max ) to select a box for each round. This function is a cryptographically secured random number generator which is unbiased. You can read more about it here (http://php.net/manual/en/function.random-int.php).

So for each round, the crypto random generator selects 5 numbers from 0 - 4. each of them present which box the satoshi is in. These values are stored on the server for each game.

Now going back to the start, when the server receives a selected box tag, it checks whether the Satoshi is in that box.

Is it provably fair? - Yes, more details here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1498398.msg15093542#msg15093542)

Purpose of the game

The point of the game is to have users playing against each other. There can only be 1 winner, or a draw (if none finds the Satoshi for the whole round). Our plan is to scale this up, where players would be able to join tournaments with several hundred players, playing against each other, until a winner is found (has luckily beaten every player) and takes the jackpot. We think this could be a great game, but that's for you to decide.


Satoshi Mines

I haven't had a time to look at Satoshi Mines, I'm sure its a really good game.
But we provide the option to actually bet against players, not computers. You can join massive tournaments and test your luck with hundreds of players. The best part, is that this game would be open-sourced as an App for both Android and websites.

After I read what happened recently in Google Store, where  huge number of apps were infected with malicious code (some of them even reaching top 10 popularity charts)
I am reluctant to try any kind of mobile app.

So my question is: are you planning on creating normal (non mobile) version of your game?

IMHO, people will prefer to not to play gambling game through mobile app. It only risks there coins in mobile wallet.

How you sure that its risky to play or gamble their bitcoin in mobile?
If you are wondering about viruses and malware you can use licensed kaspersky which can remove or and quarantine suspiscious files in your smartphone and to protect your phone in key loggers and any thiefs activity..

More users are on mobile so we want to make sure that there's a ready solution for it. But yes we'll have a Web version ready to go probably at the same time.

For the project,  if it does get attention I might open-source everything,  so people can make and offer  their own duplicate services. That would be amazing.

Looks like the same game as in windows 7 which is bomb mines..  but the different for this game you need to find the coin to be win..
Its interesting game...

It is a great game. I'm really happy this one brings back memories.

I think It's much more fun when you know you're playing against another person who has equal chances of beating you. Maybe other people will find this fun and interesting too.  ;)

So basically a minesweeper game. Is it provably fair?

This post should help you out ;) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1498398.msg15093542#msg15093542)

I love your concept. I will try to play this game. If im right we oppose o real player right?

Thanks.

Yeah! that's the whole concept there. You play another player. I'm getting a feeling that you might like it.

I like the concept of the new game and the implementation of P2P gaming in this game instead of just gambling against a traditional house.

However, my question is that will this project be a web based gambling game, or rather an Android based gambling game? Do we have to install the app to play?

Hi herman, the project will actually be both. Because some users might feel more comfortable using one method over the other, so the best option would be to have it available on the and phone.

You should give us a bit more info but I like that idea. I would rather lose to a player then the house anytime. Its a good idea it breaths fresh air and life into the gambling scene. Hopefully this becomes popular. Good luck.

Hi Jason thanks for the support.
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I didn't want to bombard anyone with too much info, but if you do want more, tell me the sort of information so i can answer all of them at once ;)

We feel the same way as well, it does suck to losing to house.

The game you made is interesting but for me its boring to play why don't you try to copy the concept in bitplay before they are running those games as bitcoin.. now they are updating it back in cash usd..
Jus like of their games before is flappy coin this is like a game of flappy bird but the difference is while you are flappy the bird the more you score you get the more you chance you will win in 4 contestant..
Or also you try the other concept of the game which is bitcoin hopper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuTAp-6M8mk
4 contestant will be match if who has high score in the contest he will get the all pot bet by the other enemy..

Concept is good but the only problem i am seeing is you need to have lots of players online so that whenver anyone comes to play he will get other competitor players. Game looks simple in screenshot and your explanation but i am not willing to download any app as my mobile have bitcoin wallet in it.  ;D

One problem is that your game is not provably fair. The owner could pretend both players lost and bank the money, so unless you build a provably fair implementation into it the owner will have to demonstrate their trustworthiness in order to attract players.

Also I would recommend you build it as a mobile friendly web app instead, as few people will be willing to install a game like this. An advantage of that is that people could still play from a computer or non-android phone. Also you are already building the server-side stuff in PHP, so why not the client too, it will avoid some complexity.

Hi Blitzboy  I love the reply, and i absolutely understand your point of view.

The reason why would be unable to provide a services such as they one above, would be, because it would be easy to build a robot that would play the game, or simply submit fake scores - which would be bad for other players in the game. This is why I've been focusing on turn based games, things like snakes and ladders, chess, checkers.

Hi mobnepal,

This is a common response and personal preference I've been hearing. I guess i'll follow up on that and only release a version for the web, which can be played on all platforms.

Thanks for your opinion, I really appreciate them.

Interesting concept, what the house edge? well i'll play your game once you have the web version ready. also you need to advance/improve the visuals.

Thanks lite for also taking an interest ;)

Since you're playing another player, it would always be 50/50 chance of either player winning.
For the game itself, since there's 4 cards, and 1 right answer, you have 25% chance of picking the right answer, throughout the 5 rounds.

Ahh for the visuals, its actually way easier to do this on the web. I'm just happy more people want this version, because it would be epic.

Hi greyhawk,

Thanks for the help, I think someone also asked about this above.

Before the game starts, we'll show some hash values, with a hashed salt, on a display, which would prove the position of the coin in each box, for each round. and then release the unhashed salt, to prove it equals to its hashed value ...

For this project, I'm aiming at developing an interesting, fun, pvp game, which is absolutely transparent. So any other way/suggestion to make this happen would be absolutely great!

If there's no house edge involved then how will you make money/manage the website/app. will you be paying for servers out of your own pocket?

Hi lite thanks for the question ;)

We charge a 10% fee to the winner (if there's one) from there, 5% should be deducted as donations, 1% every week would be used as a jackpot ... So on and so forth.

Hopefully I answered your question and didn't confuse you?

Lacks the UI to keep the users hooked for a good amount of time.The model is basic and working that is okay but you need to improve the game in terms of animations and user experience in order to provide that game experience.I know people will play here just for earning coins but getting them hooked with a dull UI is sort of a trouble.Next thing you need to watch out for is the google's terms and conditions.Several bitcoin games have been blocked before.

Thanks for the comment Joel, I really appreciate them ;)

I actually thought this was going to be a mobile App (Which would have made the UI complex to design), but more people are actually in favor of a HTML Web APP, so luckily we don't have to deal with Google.

For now, I don't wont to go on, on how the Web versions UI\UX will blow your mind (you probably wont believe me ;), after seeing the mobile UI) but believe me, it'll be unrecognizable!

I think you need to update the design/look in a bad way.  It is very plain.  I don't have any interest in playing it just because of that.  I know you shouldn't judge a book by its cover, but that's what people do.  I saw the pictures and scrolled right on by the explanation.

Hi Raibow, thanks for the comment

I have produced an update just for you (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1498398.msg15077327#msg15077327)

Please take a look and give us your response. Hopefully more users will make more suggestions, so we can tailor the UI/UX experience ;)

Hi mkr Thanks for the support.

You're absolutely right! I also believe there should be some sort of feature to let you see who's winning (if they're not distracting you by talking) ;) nice idea

How far from release are you OP ? I really wanna try your site. Please update us. I want to know what your plans are for further development.

How far from release are you OP ? I really wanna try your site. Please update us. I want to know what your plans are for further development.

Hi Jason Thanks for the support. I will release a special demo version! I'll wait to see if anyone else want a demo released. so you can try out the game and play any online players in a demo mode ;)

I've have released a live demo for this project online. I would really love for people to test it out, and give me their responses!

You can find the demo here (http://21faucet.com/)

Yes okay it's new I see but add images there it wont take long, when will you let us pvp ?

I'm still wondering if I'm going to release it or not. Just waiting to see a larger proportion of interest.

I checked it out. I think its a good idea. If you think about it it's kinda like 0 and X"s.
You should do it.

Thanks for the support Jason. hopefully more people might find it interesting ;)

No problem. I'll check in here again in a week or so, so keep us posted.