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Title: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: pandalion98 on June 12, 2016, 10:21:55 AM
I see a lot of threads and discussions mentioning the term, especially in signature campaigns and such.
How would someone define a constructive post?


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: minifrij on June 12, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
It's subjective. A constructive post is (IMO) a post that adds to the conversation/answers a query whilst still having effort put into it.
It's difficult to define, however it is not difficult to distinguish. Low quality posts tend to repeat things that have already been said (either in the thread or in their post) to stretch out their post length/count, or say things that have no relevance to the thread /conversation (E.G saying something like 'I hope the price stays high' in a Speculation thread).

I started a similar thread to this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1217671.0) a while back, of you would like to read it.


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: ImHash on June 12, 2016, 10:49:20 AM
First you need to know the meaning of 'constructive'  then you would realize everything :D


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: Foxpup on June 12, 2016, 10:51:21 AM
A constructive post is one that constructs a point of discussion, such as a thoughtful question, a useful answer to such a question, an argument in a debate, or an interesting opinion. The length of the post is immaterial, as it's possible for a even a single word to be constructive, while an essay-length babble of useless or off-topic non-information is not constructive. Posts such as "I like this", "This is good", "+1", without actual information to justify those opinions, are especially non-constructive and are deleted on sight, and the posters will be banned if they persist in making such useless posts.


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: markj113 on June 12, 2016, 10:58:24 AM
Great thread bro :)


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: markj113 on June 12, 2016, 11:00:59 AM
The above is an example of a non constructive post  :)


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: ndnh on June 12, 2016, 01:14:50 PM
I see a lot of threads and discussions mentioning the term, especially in signature campaigns and such.
How would someone define a constructive post?

You cannot define a constructive post because quite often the border between a constructive post and an non-constructive post is messy.
Some are clearly constructive, some are clearly not - but there are a lot in-between.

This is what I had put in for the FAQ in Da Dice campaign:
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11. What do you mean by quality?
What we look for:
1. Genuineness. Posts are not made solely for the campaign.
2. Content. Posts are made with useful and meaningful information. Not made when there is no reason to.
3. Relevant. Does not repeat or rephrase something already said. Helpful to OP and/or others reading it. Conversations, etc., are quite fine. But that shouldn't be everything.
4. Understandability - We don't require very good English. But it should be reasonably understandable.
5. Contribution to the topic - Must meaningfully contribute to the discussion or topic or question.
What we don't:
1. Length. That said most of the posts should not be too short. Brief posts are fine, when only that is required to make the point.




Now an example of non-constructive post: :D
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Almost 900 :D

Since you're a hobbit, you'll hit it ~1500 because of height ;D

You mean age ;D

That ring keeps me young  8)

The thing is if I had made it to 2 lines on why it is almost 900, why it should have been more/less and other useless stuff, it wouldn't have got deleted.
Example: (unlikely to be deleted, though the content is almost the same)
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MY activity is almost 900.. still not Legendary... think I will be the first person on bitcointalk to become Legendary on 1030 ;D



That explains why my views are different from mods views and every mod is like to have a different opinion, and every person on Earth is like to have a different opinion.
So forget definitions..
Constructiveness is subjective.


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: Gleb Gamow on June 12, 2016, 08:53:03 PM
Great thread bro :)

The above is an example of a non constructive post  :)

Having penned a combined ~30K constructive posts on this forum myself, I'd say that the above in a quasi-example of a constructive post, my myriad threads alone affording theymos a handsome living due to the ad revenue dollars they've generated (and continue to do so), but I digress.

/s

PS: Another fine constructive post penned by yours truly.  ::)


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: arbitrage on June 12, 2016, 09:00:58 PM
Every post can be counted as constructive if not posted for money, or bitcoins..
(i'm not talkin bout obviously shity posts), and im sarcastic.


Why one line posts are bad?  They are not, but they are best way to characterised someone as spammer.


Im very disapointed with those head hunters who hinding their own asses behind accusations againts other mebers.


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: DarkStar_ on June 12, 2016, 09:08:51 PM
Why one line posts are bad?  They are not, but they are best way to characterised someone as spammer.
Usually one line posts aren't constructive because you usually can't contribute much with only a few words, and they take less effort then a post with actual thought in it. Not all one line posts are bad though - sometimes you can contribute a lot with only a few words, or answer a simple question.

Example: (Disclaimer: Personal bias might be present)
Damn, this is dangerous. Don't be fooled by their social engineering shits. Those damn bot and script kiddies are really false!

the dangerous thing is, the bot supposedly works and is reasonably good (From what I've heard). But that doesn't make it guarantee it's safe or virus free :(
Hey Ryan, does CSGOCrash.com have your permission to use your code for Bustabit? It's being used for commercial use. If they don't you should prolly file a DMCA or something.
They do. https://www.bustabit.com/license.txt
My post quoted above has a useful purpose, even though it was 2 words. Unfortunatly, most one liners look like this:
Paypal and Bitcoin are both good ways of payment, as they allow us to pay people on the internet, to make transactions, and get paid by peoples.
Basically, echoing what multiple people have already said before.


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: arbitrage on June 12, 2016, 09:24:03 PM
***
Usually one line posts aren't constructive because you usually can't contribute much with only a few words, and they take less effort then a post with actual thought in it. Not all one line posts are bad though - sometimes you can contribute a lot with only a few words, or answer a simple question.
No, minimalist approach is wise, you can do posts longer if you use more words and at the end you
have same sentence.. If you follow Greek philosophers you should know what i'm talking..
Also jokes are allowed..They can contribute to topic, and best jokes are short ones, for example, But in most cases they are removed.


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: Vhern on June 13, 2016, 01:07:08 AM
I've had a lot of idea about constructive post, or quality post. It helps me to the extent possible way, cause I ain't native speaker therefore thank you for this topic.  8)


P.S I love being a registered member of this forum.  ::)


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: otrkid70 on June 13, 2016, 01:46:25 AM
I see a lot of threads and discussions mentioning the term, especially in signature campaigns and such.
How would someone define a constructive post?

Constructive?  Don't you mean Interpreted?    It's all about interpretation....While one Mod comes along and reads it and Thinks...."I'ts constuctive" i'll move on another might come along and "Interprit" it as spam or as Non constructrive and boom you get it deleted or worse a Ban.

You may think it's constructive and adds to the value of the conversation but in who's mind?

Roll the dice and do your best to add value to the topic is what i say. 


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: Amph on June 13, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
there are recently the case of people calling every post with signature a blatant spam when it's not always true, there is only a great hating here and nothing else

everything that is not off topic or a blatant reiteration it's a costructive post in my view, everything else it's just bullshit because of hating like is aid above


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: Th3BlackBeard on June 13, 2016, 07:30:51 AM
I see a lot of threads and discussions mentioning the term, especially in signature campaigns and such.
How would someone define a constructive post?
Search the dictionary for the definition of constructive.
If your post makes sense and if your sentences is on topic, it doesn't necessarily has to be two sentences or longer. You just have to make sense and be helpful.


Title: Re: What exactly is a "constructive post"?
Post by: emblem2nd on June 13, 2016, 07:37:59 AM
I see a lot of threads and discussions mentioning the term, especially in signature campaigns and such.
How would someone define a constructive post?
Search the dictionary for the definition of constructive.
If your post makes sense and if your sentences is on topic, it doesn't necessarily has to be two sentences or longer. You just have to make sense and be helpful.

this would fall to the constructive but irrelevant posts. Same as mine.