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If you love Liberty & hate the elite make sure you vote Brexit on 23!!! this is probably the most important political decision of our lifetime. We can take our country back one step at a time. Fuck the bankers & The New World Order , Vote Brexit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Vote exit the EU and stop taking on more Syrian refugees that will only terrorize the British people. "The EU is not working"

Are you Irish?  :)

If you genuinely believe there aren't any banksters giving financial support to the leave campaign, you're as gullible and easily manipulated as you sound.  Either way, some banker bastard somewhere is going to get what they want.  I'm now convinced the only thing the leave campaign is trying to "take back" is making xenophobia and bigotry more socially acceptable like it was many years ago.  The whole sorry shitshow is disgusting.  The EU clearly isn't the source of our problems, but people are too desperate to find a scapegoat to care what the truth is anymore.  Sadly I suspect, much like the 'Alternative Vote' referendum we had a few years back, the British public can't be trusted to make a smart decision and will once again do something stupid and happily cut their nose off to spite their face.

Agree with you, immigration is the main reason most people want to vote leave. While it is a problem in some areas, in the grand scheme of things it's rather irrelevant. IMO people like to blame immigration for their problems because it's a simple, easy to understand concept.

I've tried to explain to some of my friends why I think leaving the EU would be an economic disaster, and I'm just met with blank stares. I don't think the EU is perfect by any means, but the alternative seems like a really dumb decision.

Yeah vote for brexit so i can dump all my us dollars and get your cheap euro's. I am so close to buy my dream boat. Make it easier for me please.

Still, i know that Brits ain't that brave.  They will stay and do whatever their commander Merkel tells them to do. She owns the EU.

don't know anyone who wants to stay in

I'm hoping you're wrong, I will be voting to leave on Thursday regardless, however I can understand why you'd think that, the British seem to be completely losing the will to govern themselves. However the polls were completely proven wrong before when they tried to claim it would be a Labour victory with a hung parliament but it turned out to be an overwhelming Conservative victory.

The people I know who are voting to remain seem to be doing it out of fear of the unknown rather than any sort of rational belief.

So what? I was thinking that Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom.


Cameron will take in the Arabs whether the UK is a part of the EU or not. But still, the numbers will be a bit lower. Overall, if the Brexit happens for real, then the Muslim take over of the UK may be delayed.

What would be the possible effect of this from people who lived in Asian countries like me? Cause I think this is just for EU and Britain conflict? Forry for my lack of knowledge in it.

If Bremain wins, the Brexiters have the right to create their own country without take orders from EU.

Some individual bankers have definitely given money to Leave from their after-tax earnings. But the sums are absolutely dwarfed by the money that corporations like Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan have given to Remain.

You are deluded if you think big money doesn't want remain - you only have to see the way the markets soared when that MP got murdered to understand how badly they want a Remain vote.

What is funny is that those banking corporations have access to unlimited amount of money to influence politics... However as it is the easiest road to corrupt rather to compete the biggest bank are chineses... And it would be a value losing proposition to sell out in China... Betraying the cccp isn't taken lightly. There is great power in the cccp but with great power comes great responsibilities and the enforcers are still very patriotic. Meaning they value China not as a looting ground but as a home for their children and the children of their children.

It is not even funny.
A week ago most of our right wing section was so sure about the brexit. And now they trying to find the craziest excuses why the might lose.

I hope you guys just leave for good.

Some big money wants to remain, other big money wants to leave.  It's not a middle finger to the elites to vote leave, that's just what they want you to think: 


Full article here (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/20/brexit-fake-revolt-eu-working-class-culture-hijacked-help-elite?CMP=fb_gu).

Also, Boris Johnson was on record a couple of years ago saying he wanted Britain in the EU.  Clearly money talks if he's now all of a sudden campaigning to leave.

I'll be voting in, not even going to try and justify it to you guys (and girls).

Don't worry, I don't expect you to, I know it's a pretty hard to defend position to take anyway.

One world government is best. Maybe Trump can be the leader of the world.

Many in Ireland want independence, alas when he says 'my country' it could mean different things.

16 hours and 5 minutes before the first results.


What is going to happen if the UK (England + Wales + Scotland + Northern Ireland) votes for Bremain, and Brexit gains a majority in England? Will the English secede from the United Kingdom? That will be epic.  ;D


Nope. Putin is more qualified.


Don't bother. Never try to justify something which can't be justified.  ;D

Lol! Yeah vote out and leave the non working EU which gave 70 years of peace and the greatest achievements in the research fields we ever made and allowed us to compete with USA and China by staying a global superpower.
Because you know... Terrorists and immigration... Like the 200 annual deaths by terrorism are a reason good enough to give up the last century of peace and development...

Today is the day of vote. I don't live in England, but I'm interested in the results of this vote. Will it be in or out? That vote will show a lot and if it's gonna be out is gonna be first ster for crashing of the European Union.

There is so much confusion and mis-information about Brexit.
I'm English born with English parents, and for me, the transfer of political control to the EU, and subsequently to TTIP is treasonous, and also unthinkable. We've squandered so much on Germany's desire to control the industrial power of Europe, that it's time to bring it to a close. It started in 1919, and it's been growing slowly ever since. It isn't beneficial - you only have to look at the "new" Royal Mail to see that.

Now for some substantial facts rather than an emotional desire to surrort and protect the country of my birth.

The banking crisis has nothing to do with EU membership. Well perhaps a bit as Germany tries to give a few more months life to the insolvent Deutschebank. The bank will fail whether we are in the EU or not. The danger is our corrupt government who will probably load more debt onto the country for daring to vote to leave.

France will probably be the next country to look at leaving. Does Britain want to be know as the plonkers who wanted to stay in, whilst the intelligent French got out before the walls fell down.

Peace in Europe was brought about by NATO, and not by the EU. It is now endangered by US policy towards Russia, and not a possible Brexit.

Immigration is not the major issue, but it is important. There is no room left in England, and the infrastructure is straining to cope. Whether we stay in, or leave, there will have to be a control mechanism. I hope that it will be legal and political, and not performed by vigilante groups.

We need to get back to healthy food, and not have unhealthy products forced on us. We want meat that is hormone free, sugar cane, and not sugar beet for example.

We need to get rid of the opiates and other drugs that big pharma is forcing on us.

There are many other issues of course.

VOTE LEAVE FOR A HEALTHY AND PROSPEROUS BRITAIN. This will benefit the rest of the world as well. Does anyone remember when " my word is my bond" was the slogan of the City of London. - Lets bring back honesty in financial transactions.

Polls are 51% Remain , 49% Leave, Could easily go either way. Dont listen to the misinformation mainstream media , Vote what you know is correct. Leave this godforsaken mess called the EU!!!


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I just voted leave this morning, my voting is done.

It depends upon which poll you have seen. A total of four polls were published today. Two of them are saying that it is advantage Bremain, and the other two are saying that Brexit is leading. One thing I can agree upon. It is extremely close, unlike the recent Scottish independence referendum. The wining margin will be less than 3%.

It doesnt take a genius to work out who's behind the remain campaign. Look at where remain's major funding comes from , Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan , Goldman Sachs & Citigroup. It's what elitists want & they will make sure they get it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/11/official-pro-european-union-campaign-is-part-funded-by-goldman-s/

The real problem is that this is only the beginning. If remain wins, then we'll see the rise in violence, and a reduction in business activity. We'll probably see bail-ins to streal from the pensioners. If exit wins, then Cameron will throw his toys out of the pram, and try to screw the country before he goes.

The mentality of the EU: you are children and us, Europe, we have to lie to you guys and if necessary not let you guys vote else or you going to do shit.
Then, europe wants to force Britain to accept everything that Europe wants.

I can not believe fallacious discourse of European Union.

Well I gather France, Italy, and Holland want to leave, or at least vote on it. Greece voted out, and then their government told them they couldn't leave, and ripped off their assets to save Deutschebank - the walking dead.

If Britain votes remain, then it won't be the end of it. "out" means "OUT", but "remain" means out in a few years. The EU has no prospect of survival, its members are too disparate. Including Turkey, which is not even in Europe, will be madness. Russia is in Europe, and it would be better to include them, but with a growing economy, thsnks to American sanctions, they would never agree to be ripped off in the way Britain has.

Still haven't seen in what Eu is not beneficial to UK...
You can't say EU is putting a lot of regulation on you seriously. What is really regulated by EU in your country?

But as a scientific, I see in my daily life the incredible benefits of EU. I'm working with searchers from all Europe in European projects, the day countries vote "out", they also put an end to this common researches...

add George Soros to the long list of NWO backing elitist scum who is funding Remain!

https://www.rt.com/uk/347605-brexit-bookies-polls-soros/

The EU is there to Benefit the Globalists , the 1%ers as anon would call them. For the average person you can look forward to a failed economy , insane immigration & a general breakdown of society and morales as Kultural Marxism and political correctness indoctrinate the sheeple. Oh on the good side i can get my fags cheap by post and go live in Romania if i want(not sure how good that is 2 be honest?)

Yeah because UK suffers a lot from immigration ::)
Care to explain me how you'll handle your immigration more easily without the help of EU?
How it will help your economy to leave shengen?

And let's totally forget about the importance of EUropean researches and education of course, not like it's of any importance, Erasmus programm never helped anyone and absolutely no one benefits from education in foreign countries...

In Norway the yes to EU said that if we didn't get in it was the end of the world. We would loose jobs, our money would be worthless, etc...
Same as in Britain. We voted no to go in and... wow... None of it happened.
Good luck UK. Hope the leave campaign wins.

Crippled Europe  :P
The exit of Britain will destabilise European Union a lot imo and will reinforce the bipolar position of Germany and France

If Britain leaves, most likely France will be next and there are strong forces in Germany to leave since the German tax payers have to pay for the thing. Brexit might be the end to the crap

Read online that betting bookies are putting odds heavily in favor of UK staying. If I recall it was 75% stay in EU, 25% leave.

Will be interesting to see how this develops...

It looks as if remain are going to win, that's from the Sterling conversion stats.
What a disaster for Britain. Of course it will lead to a long period of uncertainty whilst the results are scrutinised, and the leave campaign gathers more strength based on the problems the EU will create.

Lets hope France goes for a FRexit, and then we can have another go at getting out. The EU is doomed, and needs to be killed before it morphs into TTIP.

Voted remain because screw you guys.   :P

Also it's being reported that turnout in Northern Ireland could be as high as 70%.  This follows Scotland's chief returning officer's comments that turnout in Scotland appears to be between 70% - 80%.  Both Northern Ireland and Scotland are considerably more in favour of Remain than the overall UK population, so that could be a deciding factor.

What are you on about!!!!? Have you been on a bus in South or East London , 9/10 you are the only British person on the bus and it sounds like yr in Karachi. You cant say the UK is not immensely affected by immigration , whether its  a 'problem' is down to how brainwashed you are with the Multikulti liberal ethos. Personally i dont want parts of London turning into no go ghettos ruled by Sharia law. And im sure research and education will be just fine without EU , infact the amount of money saved by needless petty bureaucracy im sure it will be improved.

Its only a matter of time my friend.

Funny, then why 99% of people getting outside education are for remaining?
And how leaving EU will help your immigration policy? Maybe start wondering about the cause of this immigration you damn idiot...

They will go back and do what the old timers did. Shot 'em at the border. LoL.

EU don't let them do it at the moment. Human rights, right to live, bla bla bla. So they will bypass useless rules like that and do it right, like USA.

The BrExit is like the DAO dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t

As Yanis Varoukais puts it they are like the Hotel California, you can check out any time you like but you  can never leave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vXWGN5Dqjg

Well it looks as if the result is pretty close. Given the number of immigrants we already have in the country, it might be a wake up call for the British. If the end result is the removal of our corrupt members of parliament, and a crack down on banking fraud, then it might serve a useful purpose.

Like USA. Because USA is a model concerning immigration. Can't you look at USA, see their incredible border with mexico, see that not even this fucking warzone is enough to control or limit immigration then FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T CONTROL IT???

WTF people! Why can't you just look at the world and see what's happening? If USA with the biggest army in the world and just ONE border with ONE country heavily fortified can't stop immigration, what tells you you can do it???

Seems like Bremain has won. According to the exit polls by YouGov, Bremain at 52% and Brexit at 48%. The assassination of Jo Cox was the turning point. Without that incident, the Brexit was going to win.

Watching BBC right now.... 3 out of 382 constituencies declared, and all went for Bremain. Upset Bremain victory in Newcaste on Tyne. The UKP has risen sharply against the USD.

Well leave are ahead at the moment.

re: US immigration - ask the indians what they think of it. :)

Too early to call. Brexit side seems to have performed better than expected. Earlier, Nigel Farage had conceded defeat, saying that the two million new voters who registered during the 48 hour extension swung the results in favor of Bremain. He withdrew his comments shortly afterwards, after early results suggested Brexit performing strongly.

What time are the final results expected to be released? I know the polls are starting to report in but its only at 5%...

According to independent.co.uk it should be 7am UK time, or 2am EST Friday (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-results-in-full-latest-live-what-time-announced-brexit-remain-leave-uk-britain-a7095991.html) .
This is getting interesting!

UK is going to leave. ;D.
Fucking sick of the parasites. ;D

BBC trying to scare me right now with OMG!"BloodBath" £ falling.
I'm watching my BTC gaining against the £.  LMFAO ;D

41.9% Reporting
Votes
Remain a member of the European Union
48.9%
5,819,095
Leave the European Union
51.1%
6,076,476

Hope it stays like that.  London will be the key.

Another few hours...

Scaremongering didn't worked out this time around.  ;D

Bankers änd corporations are going to be unhappy. Angela Merkel and her gigolo boyfriend Recep Tayyip Erdoğan are going to get offended by the results from England and Wales.

Almost half the votes counted so far. Not enough votes remaining in London to swing the results now to Bremain. I can almost confirm that Brexit has won.

My woman was too lazy to vote today.She says she "disnae gie a fuck,fuck'all changes"
She's just told me "shut ma fuckin' mouth,stop drinking and come to bed". Fuck off, bitch!I'm getting pissed.(written but not said,lol).
I was a wain when the vote to join the E.E.C. happened and I'm fucking missing work tomorrow to find out what happens tonight.
I voted LEAVE.
My vote decided it.Again. ;D
 ;D
Apathy rules motherfuckers.

 

Remain a member of the European Union
48.6%
6,581,905
Leave the European Union
51.4%
6,947,780



Lookin mighty good here. I'm still expecting something to happen, i just cant believe the powers that be will let this happen. Fingers crossed.

Brexit majority in Wales. Just votes from Gwynedd to be counted, and Brexit is leading by almost 100,000 votes. The votes from the major cities can still change the results. Less than half of the votes from London have been counted. And Bremain won big in cities such as Manchester, Bristol, Cardiff, and Liverpool. BTW... Bremain won Northern Ireland by a good margin, and looks like they are going to win in Scotland.

4am can't sleep, glued to news.

LOL, oh yes indeed.  :D :D :D

Scotland can be outvoted by London alone so Scotland's vote is pretty meaningless really.(one of the historic thing's that piss Scot's like me off mightily  ;D).
Hopefully the majority of England will vote leave.  ;D
Engurland...Engurland...Engurland...

Come on Iceland though ;D

Wow, you guys actually did it. Absolute madmen.

It's very rare that real progress gets made via the political system, especially not such strong progress. But thanks to good circumstances and the hard work of many people (I especially like Nigel Farage, who is pretty libertarian), it actually happened. Now you have to get your politicians to actually do it, though.

I expect some short-term market turmoil world-wide, but probably no long-lasting crashes, since this won't actually change anything for many months. Probably it's good for Bitcoin in in the short-term, since Bitcoin tends to react in inverse with the traditional markets.

Congrats, Britons!

the result appeared, Britain to leave the EU.  http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36615028
I was not supporting any side against the other and the difference between them is very low. but this is how referendum works. now I am waiting to the the impact of this result

Brexit wins almost 2% after 90% of votes counted! Congratulations!

0bama and harpy clinton and angelina jolie and soros are crying right now. UNTIL... The EU forces another referendum for the UK like the way they did for France. The brits will be punished. Hard.

The fight has just started. Stay strong!

Wow surprised that UK actually voted to leave. Seems like investors were expecting them to remain in the EU.

CONGRATULATIONS BRITAIN. This is a major victory against the Globalists & for Liberty. It shows that however slowly people are starting to properly wake up.

https://i.imgur.com/ZaHPZvQ.png

The technocratic ruling class of Bruxelles is mediocre, because their puppeteers in banking western sector have become incompetent and uncompetitive since they get bailed what ever they do. I hope that China will continue to apply the eternal law: bankers must die if they fail (figuratively aka out if nothing illegal and against a wall of illegal activities happened. All must know in Financial China that shit happen as long as you play by the rules of the law you are safe to go home... However don't play tricks, don't try to be a hero... Because then when you fail in your cheating and the scale is bigger, saving you would weaken the nation and its long term interest).

Uncompetitive banking lead to uncompetitive European technocrats which lead to Brexit. Or why cronyism need a global world order to hide their mediocrity on global scale. A message to you looters of treasuries living the highlife on the coffer on the public (through horrendous taxation and debt): digital efficiencies will get you...

Wow. I was hoping but didn't expect that result. Congratulations UK!

I didn't expect this outcome, since it will hurt Europeans' pockets and Britons' pockets even more. But it's a bold move and all I can add is Congrats, Britons!
Let's see what will be the next step from both sides....

i dont think anyone expected this. The bookies were giving odds of 3/1 for Leave, even when it was 51% Remain 49% Leave!!!!  Nigel Farage officially conceded defeat in a press conference then withdrew it a few mins later.
The Bankers certainly didnt exoect this :)

I strongly support Cameron! Greatest pm since Churchill!! And don't forget what the globalist did to him (pig)... He is the best for applying the Brexit!

I dont believe anyone made David shag that pig , he did that of his own accord. :)

It was blackmail by the globalist! This guy is a real English patriot and democrats. He made two referendums possible! He is a hero to The Union Jack!

Congrats Britain.

Why will it hurt our pockets? We don't have to pay the Euro leeches any more. We don't have restrictive rules stopping our manufacture. We can now start to invest in our own country and rebuild the economy. We don't have to put up with the hordes that Germany wants to bring into Europe to destabilise communities.

and so on.......

If you expanded on the so on you would reach the characters limit before half of your message  ;D

You are everything, I am against.
And Churchill the very first person to order blanket bombings on people.
You are on the wrong side.

I am wonder when Britain up that question at all - which event or events leaded to this point to stay in EU or to go out?
As I understood the last drop was the problem with  refugees. And I heard now after this decision to go out from the Union it will appear the question to Scotland to stay as part of Britain or to go in sovereignty.

David Cameron just pretty much stood down. Said he will be out within 3 months!!!

It wasn't really about migration, although many people featured that. Britain is too crowded, and there isn't any room for migrants. so it would have to be controlled whatever the result. It was about the economy, and Germany's desperate attempts to save their moribund banks.
We need to follow Iceland's example. What a courageous country they were, and look how they have benefitted from it.

Yeah he has described that within October the election will take place and before that he will officially resign.

Well then. Brexit it is! Good luck England, you'll need it. I see dark times for the world. Trump and Brexit make a bad team, if you ask me. Trump is a Xenophobe.

Sounds pretty darned good to me , Trump & Brexit!!!! :)

Just remember your words when WW3 start...

It amazes me how people tend to forget and repeat History...
But hey, if you were all dumb enough to vote for Brexit, you deserve nothing better. I'm just sorry for the young generations who were intelligent enough to vote remain but are going to get banged by the vote of the olds.

& now a motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn , hes prob losing his job 2. Brexit shock wave continues!! :)

your starting to sound like David Cameron saying that Brexit would start World War 3 and Abu Bakr al Baghdadi supports a leave vote!!!

Congratulations to my british friends!
That was definitely the right choice!
The EU in it's actual form is a construct that has to go down!And this is the beginning!Finally!!

The Americans will start wwIII via their proxy wars. We need to distance ourselves from them. Their stupid sanctions have strengthened Russia (the peacemakers ). Why isn't the US man enough to actually fight a war instead of shooting their own troops and bombing sheep.

The Britons have made their verdict, but what implications does the verdict have on the Britons economically socially and politically?I believe there is more than what it is right now. I think more countries are going to make their stand known in the next few hours or days.

Well sorry I know some shit about history...
Like every time before the hell cycle, people aged 60+ are imposing their shitty views on the rest of the population...

Aren't you at least a little ashamed of this situation? The average age of the "leaving" voter is above 50! That just means everyone wanting to leave will have to live maximum 25 years with this decision while everyone wanting to remain are going to live with this decision for 60 years!

70% of the under-25s voted to remain. I wonder why - well they don't want to work, and they are scrounging off benefits. Of course they don't want their idle lives disrupted. It's because of them that we have to bring in hard-working Polish and Irish people ( and many others from Africa and other countries). I hope that the new government will get them off their arses, and out of their drug induced stupors.

Well im not 60+ and most of my young friends voted leave. Id take these polls with a pinch of salt, they seem to get it wrong every time. It's probably the results the elitist wish would happen!!!

My thoughts on the outcome of the referendum:

This wasn't a victory where we stuck our middle finger up to the elites. As a nation, we did exactly what the billionaires' gutter-rag "newspapers" told us to. Much like the last time we had a referendum on the Alternative Vote.

The most prominent members of the leave campaign are all hard-right corporatists who will happily favour the interests of big business over the needs of the general public. Legitimising their campaign is likely a huge mistake.

I genuinely fear the effect this outcome will have on our nation's increasingly intolerant and isolationist worldview. I'm sure there are many people out there who will use this as an opportunity to reinforce their view that casual bigotry and xenophobia is somehow acceptable in this day and age.

In one sense we now have to concede that the EU has failed. It was designed to prevent any rise in ultra-nationalist fascism, but that's precisely the slippery slope we've opted to tumble down by leaving.

Fail nation is fail.

Also:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p750x750/13414410_258354547872755_1036900650_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTI3ODkxNjM3MTY5ODg0Mzk4Mg%3D%3D.2

^

It is so sad that it is becoming funny again.

The economic shock was just the beginning - the aftermath of the leave will show itself in the coming years and i dont think it will look bright for the UK. Scotland and North Ireland ready to leave and negotiation with the EU will be hard.

The EU is forced to show strength against UK to hold the other memberstates in line, which means that the UK will have to bleed for this decision.

I agree with you. But it's funny only for people old enough so they had the time to protect themselves... My heart goes to the thousands of students that just saw their dreamed shattered because a few millions of old dumb people decided to go back to 19th century...

remain cant accept the results, they got a petition with over 100k signatures to have another referendum as voter turnout was too low !!! lol Sore Losers. Suck it up Socialists!!

Has it occured to you that the "old people leave voters" may of being thinking about their children/grand-children/great-grand-children's future when they voted yesterday?

This is about the first time people have voted for decentralization in modern civilization.

I am surprised it was the older people that did it.

I am saddened that the younger generation supports the globalist socialism.

Britain wins today, but loses its future.

Fair point - thats certainly why I voted Leave. I'm with you.



You're losing me now.



I'm lost.


This is how I usually receive your posts Elwar - quite a lot of common sense - but then some tosh about socialism. I don't get it. Let it go mate.

Pack your bags and get out of Britain  ;D ;D
We don't like people who think Britain is little Britain your no good for our land..

CAN WE BUILD IT YES WE CAN  ;D ;D..I did tell you we are going  :D :D :D..
No1 reason to leave ISLAM..
MERKEL ..THANKS YOU STUPID FOOL..
RATHER EAT DOG SHIT THAN HAVE ISLAM RUN MY COUNTRY ;D ;D

RICH OR POOR ..WE CAN DECIDE WHO STAYS AND WHO GOES ;D..

NORWAY.Pays the EU..345 million a year give and take a few pounds
Switzerland .pays the eu 435 million a year give and take a few pounds..

They only pay that amount for being in the single market per year..
the uk pays 10 billion per year ..And for what to get taken over by ISLAM..NO THANK YOU..

WE ARE THE BUYERS WE HAVE THE POWER..
PLUS THEY SAID ALL THESE SCARE TACTICS TO NORWAY..
THERE WAGES 2 TIMES YOUR AVERAGE BRITISH WAGE..

ICELAND..350 THOUSAND PEOPLE..WELL BETTER LIFE STYLE THAN THE UK..
Plus take a look how good there football team are doing..WHY IS THIS?
BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY CAN DO IT..
YOU SAY WE ARE DOOMED..Have you ever watched the documentary THE SECRET...

I BET YOU HAVE..SO WHAT IS THE SECRET?...TO HAVE A POSITIVE ATTITUDE?..

NOW START TO THINK WE CAN DO IT..
Because if no positive attitude then pack your bags and go  ;D ;D

NOW CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE..WE ARE GREAT BRITAIN..NOT LITTLE ENGLAND ;D ;D

LONG LIVE THE QUEEN 8) 8)

this referendum just ripped the UK to  two parts . the votes percentage are very narrow. who ever think this is the end of UK problems he is wrong. it is just the beginning of many problems

@popcorn

That is not the whole truth.
Besides paying the amount they still have to agree to freedom of movement and working and additionally have to play by EU-law.
Both norway and switzerland already included several thousands (!!!) of EU law.

And the most important: they dont get to talk about changing laws, politics or economics.


Tl-dr.: if UK goes by the norway or switzerland model nothing will change besides the UK paying less but therefor dont have a voice in the EU anymore.

The EU was very strong, however the UK has now voted to leave.
There is little that can be done to stop this and it may lead to the destrution of the entire EU as a result.
We (the UK) were never forced to take in refugees from continents like Syria!

Looks like it's going to be a stormy few years, it's a shame really as things were just starting to become more stable after the previous recession. Europe does have problems with unelected bureaucrats and failing border controls. Maybe a shock like this will create changes - but the UK won't share so much in the rewards.

If you are from the UK then we should survive outside of the EU! Most goods will only gain 10-30% tarriffs which will not have too much effects (I don't think). Also, some things like fish markets and things that are made in the UK may be much cheaper. It is also in the favour of the EU to reduce tarriffs as the money will go to the European Government which will move money away from EU countries where the products were produced.

Norway's financial contribution
Last updated: 12.04.2016 // Norway’s financial contributions include funding to reduce disparities in Europe and contributions to the budget of EU programmes and agencies we participate in.

It is not possible to compare net payments between those of an EU Member State and those of a Non-Member state. However, Norway’s financial contributions related to our cooperation with the EU include the following:

The European Economic Area (EEA) Agreement includes a goal to reduce social and economic disparities in the European Economic Area. Thus, the EEA EFTA States Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway have contributed to European cohesion efforts through various financial mechanisms since the EEA Agreement entered into force in 1994.

For the period 2014 – 2021, Norway’s annual contribution to 15 beneficialry states through the current EEA and Norway Grants scheme will be 388 million euro, pending ratification of the agreement.

Norway participates in a number of EU programmes through provisions in the EEA Agreement or on the basis of bilateral agreements with the EU. The largest are the Horizon 2020 and, Erasmus+, Galileo and Copernicus. Norway (and our EEA partners Iceland and Liechtenstein) contributes to the budget of the programmes we participate in. For the period 2014 – 2020, Norway’s average annual commitment is 447 million euro.

Norway’s  cooperation with the EU in the field of justice and home affairs, including participation in the Schengen cooperation and agreements on cooperation in various areas, also entails some financial contributions. The annual contribution in 2015 was almost 6 million Euro.

the Schengen cooperation and agreements on cooperation in various areas..
So does this mean in all areas of Norway?

The rule is likely to hit people coming from outside the EU and European Economic Area (EEA) hardest, for example those from the US and Canada, Asia, Africa and South America. Residents of EU and EEA countries including Norway can more freely move among them, while all those coming from elsewhere face a far more complicated process.
Even after permanent residence is finally granted in Norway, holders of non-EU passports also must continue to renew their legal presence in the so-called Schengen area of the EU every two years, and carry a valid residence card. Nor does “permanent residence” live up to its name and guarantee “permanence:” If the hapless immigrant who retained his or her own citizenship ventures abroad again and is resident outside Norway’s borders for more than two years, his or her “permanent residence” is revoked and the immigration process starts all over again.
March 31, 2015..

Does the uk do this..Answer No..Anybody can come and get free house free school free medical care..ALL COST MONEY..

It's like this imagine going to SAUDI ARABIA and shouting out side there palace where going to take your home and give it to the CHRISTIANS OR THE JEWS..
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE SAUDI PEOPLE WOULD DO?...CHOP YOUR HEAD OFF..
Now good job the uk nice people..you come to my country and have the cheek to slate it to the ground..Well if you don't like pack your bags and go..

BECAUSE ISLAM WILL NEVER RULE MY LAND OR MY QUEEN ;D ;D
NEVER NEVER..
Now if MERKEL never invited all these backward thinkers I.E ISLAM..THEN WE STILL BE IN THE EU..

Now what must happen is we break the EU up then all come together and say we all support each other in war crime but we all decide who come in to our own lands NOT THE EU..

ALSO IMAGINE IF WE HAD A WAR..HOW MANY PAKISTANIS MIDDLE EAST PEOPLE WOULD HELP US FIGHT?..THEY WOULD ALL LEAVE BRITAIN IN THE SHIT AND FLEE..

YES THEY WOULD BECAUSE THEY ALREADY FLEE FROM THERE OWN COUNTRY..
WE BRITISH FLEE FROM NO ONE..WE GOT NOWHERE TO RUN..

Also the poor's only voice is every 4 to 5 years in the election..
In the eu no voice at all

Hey Popcorn I really did respect you till I seen that Queen stuff.
She and he family are nothing worse than bloodsucking leaches.

Goodnight, sleep on those thoughts.

9 out of 10 news article tell me it is about east europeans. Polnish people and such who are in the EU.
Uk doesnt have to take in people from outside the EU plase read the dublin treaty.

The main problem is immigration from the EU and that will not change with the norway/switzerland model.


It is really funny but i only know england with a big indian/bangladesh diaspora and it is for sure not caused by the EU. (Advice: look up British Commonwealth)


We will see in the upcoming months and years, but atleast you guys can expect a hospital being built every new week in the UK from now on ;)

I know what you mean..But think of this..She said give me 3 good reasons to stay so did the queen have the power to change the results?..
Now imagine Nike a brand.. The royal stamp of approval she is a brand..
The rich love the queen they want to be like her..We all want to live like kings and queens?

We pay 2 pound a year for her services..each person..
You invent make something with the royal stamp of approval on the box..
Your 2 pounds you paid makes you well more..

The queen is suppose to represent her people spread the BRAND around the world..

Does NIKE make more than 120 million a year as a brand?

does the royal stamp of approval make more than 120 million a year?..

120 million a year we pay the queen..How much money does London make by people visiting
Buckingham palace and the tower of London?

Now you come from china where do you visit ....ANSWER THE QUEENS PALACE..

If we had no royal family would we be better off?

Now remember why people all over the world come to visit BRITAIN..
Because of the royal family and it's history?..

Do we make more than 120 million in tourism when people visit the queen palace?

SO IS THE QUEEN A WASTE OF MONEY?

I look at the queen as a brand..

A warrant brings value to a brand, particularly in the export market. There's a huge amount of patriotism at the moment and the royal family is enjoying a massive surge in popularity. With the increase in their standing, so the brand value of warrants increases too. "It's more readily recognised abroad, though, in the Far East, USA, China and the Commonwealth where many people think it's the best thing since sliced bread and go wild over it."

I used to think why she getting paid all this money to wave at people :D :D
But as i got older i sat down and thought No way i would want to live like her NO THANKS..
Cannot fart without being in the paper

When a footballer gets paid 120 million for 3 year contract..What money do you make back?
NOTHING.

When you pay the queen 120 million a year what money do you make back?
Billions..Tourism and royal stamp of approval..

So the QUEEN IS AN ASSET FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE UK..SHE IS YOUR QUEEN YOU OWN HER ASS..

I LOVE THE QUEEN AND MY COUNTRY..And the queen loves her people and her country..
I know the Benefits the queen brings..she as served her country well..

Not just all waving you know :D :D

I come from Pakistan i go to Romania buy a EU passport for 20 quid then go to the uk..
Simples..
Also how long because of the EU courts does it take to deport someone? years and years..

Now we can sling you out straight away..soon this will happen..

And if the 2 big parties don't get into shape..Then UKIP WILL WIN THE NEXT ELECTION..

UKIP CANNOT WIN THE NEXT ELECTION!!!
I think a european passport is more expensive than £/$/euro 20! (as they are usually much more epxensive though I presume your point was that it is fairly easy to get into the UK)!
Once you are in the UK there is very little you can do, also you can be processed by regular cours (unless you appeal but then that costs you are left with are extremely high, mainly n legal fees)! You may also be held in prison for those years that your case is being processed!

I hope Ukip don't win..And your right i was saying how easy it is to enter..
i know you pay more for a passport. But you got my drift..

UKIP WILL WIN IF...LOADS OF IF'S WHY THEY WILL WIN..But hope it wont come to this..
Also how much to keep a prisoner 40k a year..

So when we lock up immigrants for 1 year .half a year.. tax payer loosing loads..

To all you immigrants i used to think you benefit the country But lets break it down..

Costs for schooling The average for all authorities across England is £4,550.54 per-pupil.a year

cost for medical care Now almost everyone gets sick at least once a year and see a doctor or could get really sick and cost the earth to make you better..
But just say 200 pounds a year..

Now if i am not a skilled worker how much tax do i pay to compensate for my 2 kids using the English education..
Also the tax credits i can claim can be up to 10k..
Now even if i am a doctor from africa does my taxes cover a family of 2 adults with 2 kids who are immigrants..using the systems Schooling and 10k tax credits and medical care..

How many doctors wages do we need to cover 1 family of 4 who's dad works on a farm picking spuds?
See the money to cover cost comes from big and small businesses who pay large amount of tax
to cover our schooling and medical bills..

So the only good immigrants are high paid immigrants or immigrants who own there own business and pay large amount of taxes..
and go all PRIVATE..

SO WHEN YOU IMMIGRANTS COME OVER AND SAY I PAY MY TAXES NO YOU FUCKING DON'T IF YOU PICK SPUDS OR WORK FOR SHIT PAY..YOUR A BURDEN ON OUR SYSTEM..

Why i get pissed at these IMMIGRANTS..Because if we went to war would they think it's there country or would they pack there bags and say it's not my country i am off?..

Like this for an idea..You grade workers by age..
16 to 21 years old your a B grade worker ..B graders get paid 7.50 hour..
22 to 65 years old your a A grade worker..A graders get paid 12 pounds an hour..

Then you have skilled workers they get paid over 20 pounds an hour or more depending on the job
you do..

Now the 16 to 21 year old can be kids who are in UNI and you could get them to pack and do all the easy jobs part time while they study instead of bringing an islam family to do these jobs..

Now once they pass 22 years old with no skills I.E never bothered to learn then your wage as got to be 12 pounds an hour..

Now what the government does is sit down and work out which jobs can be done by 16 to 21 year olds and which jobs can be done by unskilled 22 to 65 year olds..

farmers will use the 16 to 21 year olds so they can pay the 7.50 an hour easy to do set a coach to pick these young kids up out side the uni then take them to the farms to work and get paid..

Then when no one wants these jobs then bring immigrants in. AND NO ISLAM ;D ;D

If you think it's unfair to say no ISLAM..
Then go to SAUDI ARABIA And say your an ATHEIST and you want to work on there farms ;D

CHOP CHOP SQUARE FOR YOU..





 

The European Union membership had its own positives and negatives for the Brits. The positives were freedom of travel across the Union, access to cheap blue collar labor from the Eastern Europe.etc. But the negatives were much more severe. A large number of factories and mines shut down, and native blue collar workers saw their job opportunities plummet.

The EU wants us out as soon as possible..

lets find out what we import and what we export..

what ever we export start looking now who to sell too..NO EU COUNTRIES..

WHAT EVER WE IMPORT LETS MAKE THEM OURSELVES AND SELL TO OTHER COUNTRIES OUT SIDE OF THE EU..

If anyone in The EU decides to be funny we don't want your products we will buy else where..
How much money will you have then when you sell nothing to the UK..

How much money will you have to spend on 27 countries if we don't buy off you.. :D :D :D :D

Scotland Ireland if you stay with the EU you will be doomed as a nation ..
France will leave Holland will leave all in the next year..

I done my sums and the EU will be well worse off than the UK if they plan to do bad trade..

Go and check how much we import from Germany compared with what we export to Germany :o :o
we spend 2 times more on there goods than they spend on ours..

So it boils down to this..Is the EU something like if we don't pay your 10 billion pounds or if we want out YOU WILL MAKE OUR LIVES BAD..So really your GANGSTERS WHO WANT PROTECTION MONEY..
If anybody wants to give me half of there wages so i can tell you what to do then i be glad to do this for you no problem..

Also janette krankie   AKA  nicola sturgeon..Is an idiot ;D ;D power hungry idiot..
If Scotland goes then it will be your loss bad idea to leave the UK..

America China Brazil..3 countries with more than 500 million people..
AND YES IT'S GOT TO BE BRITISH MADE...

WE WILL BE GREAT BRITAIN MOVING TO THE NEXT CENTURY..
BRITAIN CIVILISED THE WORLD NOT THE EU..

I Know Britain will never fall not in the 21st century We are to smart to be shit..
So to all you doom and gloomers PICK YOUR HEADS UP AND SAY THIS WILL BE A BRIGHT FUTURE
FOR ALL THE UK..

SCOTLAND IRELAND WALES ENGLAND..We can build a better future for all our children..
Am looking forward to the future it's bright..

You are very smart. Send me bitcoin  :)

The Queen does an enormous amount to help the UK, and uses her money to do it. The money she gets from the country is not enough to cover all her costs.

The bloodsucking leeches are the young unemployed claiming social security benefits, and trading the free drugs they claim from the National health service. They voted for remain I believe.

I am in England, and I live in a country village damaged by these leeches.

As an outsider, what does the Queen do?

As an insider, she does nothing... but wave.

http://www.thisissierraleone.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Queen-Elizabeths-jubillee.jpg

You need to reflect on the massive amount of revenue she generates from tourism. Envy blinds so many people to the benefits of having a Royal Family.

Ah! And how those old fags could know the world better than their children? The good old "we're older, we've got the experience we know better than you" is totally outdated nowadays. Are you seriously saying that someone who was born without internet and lived most of his life without any kind of modern technologie in a world where you never went farther than 40 km from home, is better to decide about your future than yourself? ::)

Check out this Pro Remain song by daughter of ex MI6 Boss!!  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaOjvNU82s

I've got over 50 years of computer experience. I started on an IBM 421

I've driven from San Francisco to Tallahassee (amongst other jouneys)

How long have you been in computers, and how much have you travelled?

and I'm not a fag - either a cigarette end or a homosexual

Here's a picture of tourists at the Winter Palace, St. Petersburg :-

http://previews.123rf.com/images/keithlevit/keithlevit1206/keithlevit120600752/14223736-Tourists-in-front-of-the-Winter-Palace-State-Hermitage-Museum-Palace-Square-St-Petersburg-Russia-Stock-Photo.jpg

Say what you like about the older voter in the Brexit - but they didn't fall for the "vote remain or we'll have to slash your pension" bullshit. Maybe they aren't so dumb as all that. And a little braver than you are giving them credit for.

Do you really believe the ability to Google can replace experience? Many of the oldies experienced Britain's exit from the ERM in 1992, and it was pretty bad, the Germans wouldn't take the phone calls of the Prime Minister on the day Britain crashed out. My father said at the time, look at what a mess this is, mark my words, the euro will turn out badly because the Germans just won't cooperate with anyone. Twenty years later, and you had Greece - but the young people in Greece, having no memory of problems, were caught off guard, they were completely blindsided and are paying the price with 50% unemployment and their savings confiscated.

I voted to Leave as did all my family, and am glad of the wisdom of the oldies in giving us perspective about the ills of the EU.

Remains Anti democratic petition to have another go at winning has over 2 million names now!!!!

So remain are so butthurt they lost, they are attempting to move the goalposts in their favour and try again......

https://s31.postimg.org/5av747123/image.jpg

Very well, glad to know you're part of the very tiny minority of people above 60 that try to follow up with the way the world is going. It doesn't change the scientifical fact that the older you get, the less adapted to your environment you are. Someone old has always more trouble understanding the evolution of the world, even if you don't want to admit it.

To answer your question, I touched my first computer when I was 6 and went on every continent but Antarctic and South America.

I don't understand your post. We "oldies" voted for Brexit because we can see the way the world is going. We are aware that there is more to life than Facebook.

No. You oldie are just too arrogant to even consider that the youngs have good reasons to keep faith in EU and don't even want to listen to those arguments...
I don't care, I'm not English. I just find it ridiculous to see this ugly gerontocracy at work.

Again it is just sad to see your way of thinking. This is why the oldies shouldn't vote...
You're afraid of the directions? Then change the way and turn! Don't go backward ><

You're just refusing to see the world evolve that's all.

Who said "Youth is wasted on the young" ?

I didn't really understand that phrase until now. Its all well and good being a dreamer - but you have to be practical as well.

Hey, you have to be a practical dreamer  :D

Oldies are disapointed practicals without any dream. How could  they have the right to drive the country?

I have a piece of advice for you. Stop whining. You lost the referendum by a big margin, and now get over with it. And please don't paint all the younger voters as pro-EU. 40% of them voted for Brexit (a simple majority of the native non-immigrant youth). I have noticed that you are hurling abuses and insults at anyone who does not agree with your views, since the referendum results came out.  Apply some burnol, and everything will be allright. And more importantly, let the Brits do whatever they want with their country.

That's for sure I'm at least whining as much as they're braging ^^
But I don't see why I wouldn't be affected. Not like the Britains decision won't affect the rest of the world.

It's not 40% you know, 72% of youngs voted remain.

And as a good article said:
You've gambled with my generation future, I've got the right to be angry.

Voting remain was gambling with your future.
Voting leaving was gambling with your future.
Not bother voting at all was gambling with your future.

Listening to the young generation and accepting their overwhelming decision maybe? ::)

So for you, "young" means just those in the 18-24 age group? For me, it also includes those in the 25-30 age group. And the latter voted in favor of Brexit by a 4% margin (probably close to 10% in reality, as the exit polls undercounted the LEAVE vote by 4 to 6 points). A majority of those aged between 25 and 30 voted in favor of Brexit.

Lier.

If only people aged to 64 could have vote, remain would have won by a really big margin: 10-15%

https://mobile.twitter.com/POLITICOEurope/status/746255941331488768

But well, what would expect from someone who cant even read a yes/no poll correctly ::)

What pisses me off is that many of the people in this thread self-identify as Libertarian.  You supposedly hate big government and champion the rights of the individual above all else.  I know you're reading this thinking "yeah, that's totally me".  Except when it comes to the rights of individuals to choose where they come to live and work.  Then, all of a sudden, you're all clamouring as fast as you can for some big government to build a wall, dig a moat and pull up the drawbridge for you.  It's such a disgusting double standard.  You're not libertarians at all.  You're duplicitous, greedy hypocrites and nothing more.  The rights of the individual don't just extend you and your kind, bigots.  They apply to everyone.

That's a quote from Gary Johnson the Libertarian party's candidate for president

I have to disagree with you there!
The medical departments in the UK have many job vacancies that require filling. The Eastern European doctors were of a similar skill to Western European doctors and wages remained a similar pay (until around 2010 when the conservative government cut the funding for the NHS).
Facories and mines closing are good things in some cases as it prevents pollution, landscape damage to the environment and many other potential problems not occuring!

There were other disadvvantages though! I see no reason why freedom of movement will not continue under the current UK plans and as part of the "brexit" deal. If free movement does change, considering the amount the countries like Spain make from tourism, they will probably try to set up a similar relationship to the one that Britain has with countries like Egypt and Tunisia who are not in the EU but people from teh UK are allowed to travel there with regular British passports!

I'd guess it'd be more than £40K per year to keep a person in prison! However, the person still needs to pay legal fees!

UKIP should fold in three years time (they set out for us to brexit and they got it)! If they leave now, tey will retire successful! (they probably won't leave now though)!

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I found it funny how the MEP Nigel Farage tried to support the "brexit" even though his main income comes fromthe EU and the UKs participation in it!

It isnt just free travel. Please take a look at the the schengen treaty.

Also Visa free travel is really hard to negotiate and most (all?) Nations who have such a treaty with UK are in the Commonwealth, a former colony of the UK.

I thought we had opted out of Schengen together with Ireland.

You are right and im wrong. Sorry my bad there.
I always though that because Ireland and UK are part of the EU and EFTA/EEA and of the discussion about the refugee-crisis. (no boarder controls etc)

There's also places like Hong Kong in China where people can travel with just a UK passport and many other places.
The main points are that we get free travel, access to the "european single market".
The schengen treaty, I am told, is a treaty that means the people who are British Protected People, British Subjects, British Overseas Citizens... can travel to the countries in the schengen scheme for up to 90 days!
(british subjects and british protected people being people who are born stateless and apply for that specific title from the government in order to remain in the UK, they are unable to do things like have Dual Citizensips and other things that british citizens are allowed to do - though I don't think there are too many restrictions, but they are not classed as British Citizens)!



I think that was revoked at the last set of policies just before the referendum if I am not mistaken (when Mr David Cameron failed to negotiate a good deal, and the EU parliament thought it was the best we were going to get fro them)!
We opted out of other stuff as well such as the bailout principle (didn't really work for us in 2009)!

No your so wrong..I have well more rights in my country..Well i should have more rights but not the case..

Right let me tell you WHY..

My Gran dad died during ww2.. 2 my great uncles died japs in ww2..Afgan war 6 or 8 year ago cousin shot in the head dead..
Now when you invite poor immigrants in they under cut your wages..Now if you say they don't your full of shit..
I work as a bricklayer i worked on a site and we lay 1 sq meter of block for 10 pounds..A gang of poles come on the site and said they lay them for 7.50 pounds 1 sq meter..
So under cutting our rate..
Now when we get our wages we spend it on home and kids in our land..They send most of it back home spending it in there land lowering our economy because more money should be flowing around the area for shops and so on..
Now why i have more rights is because we the poor send our children to war not these rich bastards
It's the poor peoples sons and daughters who end up on the FRONT LINE..
Now when Immigrant comes over I.E A FUCKING MUSLIM ..They get a free house and all the benefits..Then have the cheek to want to turn our land into Islam..And also want to kill our soldiers
And rape our daughters and kill all those who don't believe in there religion..
Now you say your getting paranoid ?..
say you live in an area and it's got 50 British people living in the area and lets say 4 muslims move in that area well those 4 Muslims will have kids and those kids will end up with western values..
Now if you moved 30 Muslims in an area and 20 British are left in that area..What will happen is the 30 muslims change that area into A muslim area Mosque built laws brought up that have nothing to do with British law more SHARIA LAW..They change our country..Now imagine we have a war where will these muslims be telling us to fight it our selves and chanting for us to die?

Now Scotland have 5 million people and nearly as big as England Ireland don't Know how many people but i get to my point now..And London what a joke..

Right when Scotland look out of there windows and the same goes for Ireland they see hills and country side and when they go for a walk they just about see another person compared to England.
SO WHEN ENGLAND TALKS ABOUT IMMIGRATION SCOTLAND AND IRELAND WONT KNOW WHAT IMMIGRATION IS COMPARED TO HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN ENGLAND ALONE..
Now London these crafty bastards have put the rents up that much there only getting the best immigrants all the rest of England get all the riffraff because a poor muslim will end up in the midlands or the northwest and now there filling up wales all the poor towns..While london gets all the million pound Muslims we get the shit ones..

Now yes we have riffraff but there our riffraff.. But adding more riffraff to our lands is not good
And if from north africa there riffraff is 10 times worse than our riffraff..there used to killing..

Now to some poor guy who as no money is country is all he as left..Because it's the poor who care about there country they end up as soldiers they sign up to join the army..
Not some rich toff with loads of money why would he want to die or send his kids to die..

When you join your told the queen is your boss and you fight for your country..
So when London shit on the poor by giving immigrants a better life than our people enough was enough..
Now you see why scotland and ireland want out because they don't feel immigration like England..
Ireland have horse in there front gardens on a council estate we have 10 muslims in one house
and the garage has 2 more in it..

SO DON'T YOU DARE SAY SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AS ME IN MY OWN COUNTRY..OUR POOR PEOPLES CHILDREN DIE FOR OUR COUNTRY..
MOST IMMIGRANTS WOULD FLEE BACK.....TOTAL FACT..

Someone from Scotland and Ireland go live in BIRMINGHAM for 2 years and you will know what we mean ;D ;D

I have well more rights than an immigrant ..BUT WE FUCKING DON'T BECAUSE OF THOSE RICH SELFISH TWATS..They don't live in these AREAS ..I DO..
Lived on the out skirts of a city more farm land than anything..But now even the face of my area as changed and not for the good..waiting 2 week to see a doctor..
1970S Britian was fucking skint..But you could call a doctor and he come to your house..Now don't even Know me doctor..So with all these riches floating around WHERE THE FUCK IS IT..
YES IN LONDON ONLY..
And Scotland and ireland would know fuck all about immigrants shitting there areas up and stealing there jobs and under cutting them..Because not many people in the lands ;D ;D

Now i have worked on the channel island jersey ..And when i worked there you needed to be there for 24 years paying into there tax system before you can become a native or marry a jersey bean
to claim housing benefits or any benefits..Got the hospital for free that's it..
Now if i never worked and had no money i had to go home back to the mainland..
Now when British people go abroad to live or work ..We don't claim benefits and we buy homes in the sun..Nothing like what the EU is offering ..More like the shit of the crop..

And it cost us 10 billion to make us feel like this..WELL THANK FUCK I AM OUT ;D ;D

Now watch this video and also see why I am glad i am out if not seen YOU MUST WATCH..
YOU WILL BE GLAD WE ARE OUT..

Lexit the Movie (The left case for Brexit ) - YouTube
Video for lexit the movie▶ 1:01:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0kuJhkMLWs

The people who used every tricks in the book to make the bremain are still there... And apparently they don't like the idea referendum when it doesn't get in their ways...

Scotland please GO..No rather have us together.. But i would love you to go to see if you can make it in the EU :D :D :D :D :D
And also how will you block a brexit NO CHANCE..If this is the case then I want a vote to block the SNP..Only fair ;D ;D..You got out voted on the BREXIT..Just like we got out voted by the SNP running scotland...TUFF TITTY  ;D ;D..BUT PLEASE GO.. 2  . odd million people telling 17 million people what to do

FUCK OFF YOU CHEEKY BASTARDS..
The latest comprehensive snapshot concluded that Scotland was running a larger deficit as a percentage of economic output than the UK average.

Scotland raised £53.1bn in 2012/13 and spent £65.2bn, leaving the country £12.1bn short.

Now what happens if a new Energy system is used lets say 10 years from now how will Scotland survive..
According to the Treasury, public spending in Scotland is higher than anywhere else in the UK apart from Northern Ireland.

So Scotland who as the worst end of the stick..England..DON'T COUNT LONDON THERE FROM ANOTHER PLANET ;D ;D they are from the planet..I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT NO ONE ELSE AS LONG AS AM OK..

You seem to think it's the EU making your lives better BULLSHIT ;D
SO PLEASE WIN YOUR VOTE TO BECOME A FREE SCOTLAND FULL OF POOR PEOPLE..

you will all be back on the buck fast soon :D :D :D ras c nesbits :D :D

I don't understand... How could they let the situation to that bad? They are all looting on it and thinking to move it on an offshore in Delaware or what? Where did the Scottish people learned math? If you spend more than your revenues you have to take debts, debts have to be financed. Because I am sure they weren't cash positive in 2011/12... I understand that cronies in the state and those in symbiotic relation with them in the private sector enjoy transferring as much wealth from the state coffee and the public backing it... But no one is no nest enough to tell them that it will end bad for them? What is happening to the west... To impose Keynes plan of looting they have to dumb down the population...

Worst Exchange Rate:THE POUND 1.3836 on 29/02/2016
Now on this day did you hear on the news we are all going to die and all loose our life savings?

go and check the rate..THE NEWS IS FULL OF SHIT ;D ;D ;D
TRYING TO CONTROL IT'S SHEEPLE
And no to Scotland in a brexit block NO CHANCE ..Not democracy if it gets blocked..So then all our young adults in the armed forces are there for NOTHING..FIGHTING FOR WHAT ?..
Because my son daughter not fighting to line A PERSON OR A COMPANIES POCKET SO THEY CAN HAVE A NICE LIFE WHILE WE SUFFER...NO CHANCE >:( >:(

And no i am not poor no more.. not rich but do ok ..But believe me i have been poor..
Salt soup try having that because your cupboards empty..Now why not ask a family member for some food..Well you do but after asking 3 times you feel shit asking anymore times..
And also they get sick of you asking..
sat with a candle because no electric no money..Now don't get me wrong only happened couple of times but it was shit..so imagine someone who worse off than i was at the time at least i had a home..

They should of looked after the natives and not and all the rich..Remember always be more poor than rich..
So you need to make the poor not so poor?
A woman from london buying a 3 pound fish..Now because some tosser smoked the kipper while playing the piano she paid him 2 thousand pounds...stupid shit..
Now if someone doing this there got to be some people suffering because the money that gets put out is going into a small amount of hands and not the many..

Say government put 1 billion into a city and 5 people end up with half of it there will be problems with the rest of the people..I.E WHEN YOU COME TO VOTE..

the European Union is founded on the ideas of Count Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi.  He believed in the homogenisation of the european people so that they could be commodified by the globalists and would be much easier to control seeing themselves as citizens of the world or Europe with no national identity.  The EU gives out the Kalergi award every 2 years to Globalists who have excelled in promoting his sick ideology. Recent winners include Angela Merkel , Tony Blair and Peter Sutherland.

"  The man of the future will be of mixed race. The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-negroid race of the future, similar in appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples and the diversity of individuals. ”

To Scotland when you join the EU think about this?

Why in England when my child goes to university why is my children in 45 grand debt when in
Scotland your children get it free..

Now if you ask me this is so unfair..Now do you think the EU will allow this? NO CHANCE..
So Scotish children get to be smart for free but English children have to pay to be smart..
So right there tells me your already smarter than england because WE ENGLISH ARE GETTING RIPPED OFF..
Now lets see if you can get the same deal off the EU.. ;D

So Scotland this is what you need to say to the EU..High EU can we stay in the EU we only need you to cover our 12 billion pound hole every year..This is the Eu..What no profits..Scotland..No just 12 billion debt every year but we do a lovely HAGGIS..

SO GOOD LUCK

Ugh... so much nonsense in one post.  I don't even know where to begin.

The number of economic migrants who receive a "free house" is practically ZERO, except in the most extreme of cases.  You're thinking of refugees.  That's not the same thing.  But you conflate illegal immigrants/economic migrants/refugees/asylum seekers (http://theconversation.com/explainer-the-difference-between-asylum-seekers-refugees-and-economic-migrants-45615) as the same thing because you can't grasp the difference.  Here is what economic migrants do and don't qualify for (https://fullfact.org/economy/migration-and-welfare-benefits/).  And since 2013, changes have been made to restrict the number of things they do qualify for.  All the cretins who genuinely believe people step off a boat and join some magical queue where they dish out free houses, cars and mobile phones need to have their empty heads checked.

It's been proven time and time again that economic migrants contribute more financially than they take out.  As a nation, a large number of our emigrants (another word you probably don't understand) tend to be retirees.  They go to places like Spain, Portugal and others and use the health services there, when they've never paid into the system via taxation in that country.  Plus they're far more likely to rely on healthcare services due to their age.  Whereas we mostly import young, healthy workers from the continent.  We're getting a pretty sweet deal here, but most people are too stupid to realise it.  Or to see the double standard where English people are somehow entitled to live and work/retire wherever the hell they want in the world, but no one with a different nationality is allowed to come here?


<cough>HYPOCRITE!</cough>

You think the price of renting in London is some sort of cunning ploy to select the wealthiest economic migrants?  Pretty sure that's not the reason and your tinfoil hat (along with your arguments) might have a few holes in it.  Your remarks about Scotland and Ireland are also nonsensical and have little to do with the EU anyway.

The number of people pushing for Sharia law are a small but vocal minority.  It's not all Muslims like you would be happy to believe because "let's stereotype and tar everyone with the same brush".  The number of extremists killing or committing other heinous acts is even smaller, but again, why not assume it's all Muslims if it conveniently supports your abhorrent worldview?

All in all, you're a pretty horrific example of what humanity has to offer.  But the consolation is you'll fit in perfectly around this subforum with the likes of Wilikon, bryant.coleman, saddampbuh and others to keep you company.

Its official , There will NOT be a 2nd referendum Cameron has said. The petition now with over 3.4 million votes is being investigated for fraud 77,000 signatures already removed. So not only are Remain undemocratic they are also criminally fraudulent.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36634407

You are speaking COMPLETE liberal brainwashed BULLSHIT!!!! Poll after poll has showed that a large percentage of the muslim population support sharia law as well as islamic terrorism.


ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015: 1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half the total population.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/muslim-leader-isis-supporting-brits-disenfranchised-6018357

BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".
http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/

The Sun (2015: Following Nov. 2015 attacks in Paris, 1 in 4 young Muslims in Britain (and 1 in 5 overall) said they sympathize with those who fight for ISIS.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6758207/1-in-5-British-Muslims-have-sympathy-for-jihadis-in-poll.html

ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.

al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/al-jazeera-arabic-poll-49-9-support-osama-bin-laden.712/http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4730825.ece

Populus Survey: 18% of British Muslims would be proud or indifferent if a family member joined al-Qaeda.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

al-Jazeera Poll (2015): 81% of respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS).
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/05/25/shock-poll-81-of-al-jazeera-arabic-poll-respondents-support-isis/

Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

BBC (2007): 36% of younger Muslims in the UK believe a Muslim should be killed for converting to another religion (19% of those over 55 agree).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6309983.stm


As for housing lol you are obviously not from Britain or come from a very privileged background and havnt got a clue. You gotta have your head in the clouds if you believe all the 'refugees' in the UK are real refugee's lol. It's painfully obvious that over 90% of refugees are economic migrants and yes they do jump the queue and get  preference over homeless British people. This is all by design to homogenise and commodify the european population.

Sigh... As only some of your links actually make some specific mention of Sharia Law, let's focus on those ones:



So roughly a third of Muslims would prefer Sharia Law, but:

a) that doesn't mean they're actively campaigning for Sharia Law, it was just an expression of preference
b) in terms of the total overall UK population that would still qualify as a small minority even if every single last Muslim was calling for it (which they aren't)
c) some of your links even stated that some Muslims currently living here would consider moving to another country where they could live under Sharia Law

Stop trying to make out like it's some sort of catastrophe that some people have different views to yours.  

In response, I'll give a link of my own:

http://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/british-public-perceptions-wrong-important-issues/


I'm not the one who's brainwashed, but thank you for your concern.   ::)

Zebedee23, you're completely right, but people like who you're arguing with think that screaming racism and xenophobia negates anything you have to say.


Just stop DooMAD, the fact that they even prefer Sharia law should really fucking concern you, you really are brainwashed if you think that sort of thing is okay and frankly, if it was someone White or Christian who expressed these sort of views you would be calling for their lynching.

Oh and for fucks sake learn to use quoting properly instead of just lazily spamming to cover up that you don't have anything useful to say.

I don't understand why people like you are so concerned about others preference. ..

What's the matter with them preferring shariah? As long as they obey current law they have the right to support whatever they want no? Oo

Uh oh, here come the thought police, here to tell us what we can and can't think or believe.  If they don't act on it, I honestly couldn't give a toss.  If they do act on it, there aren't enough willing people to achieve such a change in legislation, so I still don't give a toss.  It's a complete non-issue.  Mountains made from the tiniest of molehills by hysterical loons who are looking for any excuse to spread fear to support their cause.



He said after making less valid points than I just did.   ::)

It is pretty sad. That guy is such an hypocrite. Always saying big things about free speak but only for people agreeing with him. everyone else is just a an sjw calling patriots like him a racist and xenophobe.

Meanwhile we just put forth statistical facts aka numbers.

I already gave up on many people here - they are just brainwashed and delusional loonys who see the sun 5 minutes a day.

Now Scotland is trying to veto Brexit!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36633371

Brexiters like:  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HVReDiyouWs

Thanks for pointing this out. It's a complete nonsense to get concerned by what people THINK. THey got the right to prefer Shariah. What they musn't do is act against the population in order to empower those ideas. But that's more like what we do...

Did m0gliE and DooMAD just seriously suggest that it's completely acceptable to support a form of religious law that actively wants a huge number of people dead for who they are, what they were born as and what they choose to believe in and try to make fun of me for saying it's not acceptable?

There really is no hope for people like you if that's what you genuinely think, free expression does not give you the right to harm others you fucking deranged lunatics and that's exactly what supporting Sharia Law means.

You're the dumb archaic old fag here. Supporting sharia law doesn't mean that at all. Supporting sharia law is just supporting a different law system and as long as you conform to the law system chosen by the majority I don't care about what you prefer. Supporting Sharia law is not so different from supporting death penalty you dumbass.

Moreover, if a more and more important part of your population is supporting as archaic and stupid as Sharia law, you might question your education system especially as you're telling most pro Sharia are young muslims.

 I've read this whole thread and was going to keep my mouth shut but for fuck sake m0glie ,you sure are confused.
Are you one of them SJW Trigglypuff's I've been hearing about? I'm waiting on you saying "take your hate speech off muh forum"
The UK voted to leave.
This is a democracy and the British people have voted.
That's how voting works.
You're not from the UK so you've got fuck all to say about it.
That's about it really.
I'm 1 of the old cunt's that voted to leave the E.U. and Sharia law had fuck all to do with it,.Economic decisions were the deciding fact for me.
The UK will never be ruled by any religious law.
We are a secular society.
Money talks and your SJW bullshit walk's.

If i went to New Zealand i would be buying a house plus have skills..
And New Zealand love British people so much  ;D ;D ;D..
But now i don't need to go anywhere I GOT MY COUNTRY BACK ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D..

Now immigrants.. You say they benefit the UK ..Yes The good ones with money or skilled workers..
Now for skilled immigrant workers..WHY have we not trained our children to fill most jobs before offering them abroad????????..
All this BULLSHIT saying the people don't want the shit jobs :D :D TOTAL LIE..
The kids i know would shovel shit for 50 pounds a day..BUT someone come from somewhere else and do it for 30 pounds..

Now i was born in the UK And my family go back hundreds of years living in the uk..
NOW I HAVE NEVER GOT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY OFF THE DOLE IN MY LIFE >:( >:(

My £14,000 in benefits helped build my house: Romanian ... - YouTube
Video for romanian builds house on benefits youtube▶ 0:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVKkw4RjsBA

Now for the MUSLIM PROBLEM ;D..YOU DON'T THINK LIKE WE DO..NOW PACK YOUR BAGS AND FUCK OFF ;D ;D ;D..Now if you give up YOUR SHITTY RELIGION AND BLOW UP ALL YOUR MOSQUES
YOU CAN STAY :D :D :D :D :D :D :D..

Now lets get one thing straight and it's a fact..WE VOTED OUT BECAUSE WE HATE ISLAM..
And we hate Anybody telling us what to do and how to feel LIKE THE EU...

NOTHING TO DO WITH COLOUR.. IT'S HOW YOU THINK..IT CLASHES WITH BRITISH VALUES..

YES DO YOU HERE THIS .....FUCKING BRITISH VALUES..NOT ISLAM VALUES ..
Take your sand religion back to your desert where it belongs  ;D ;D

Racist Muslim man abusing innocent British girl - tells her " GO TO ...
Video for muslims abuse british girls▶ 1:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYHbICsBpoA
 
Twelve men who repeatedly gang-raped and abused teenage girl
Video for muslims abuse british girls▶ 4:14
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Twelve-men-repeatedly-gang-...
8 Feb 2016
A Muslim councillor has admitted that some feel as though 'it takes two to tango' as 12 .... 'Not all British ..

Jurors Shown Footage Of Callous Murder Of Soldier Lee Rigby ...
Video for lee rigby murder▶ 3:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC8a-1qiedk

Stacy Dooley - Are Muslim Extremists Invading Britain - YouTube
Video for muslim extremists taking over britain▶ 4:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdHaOFnnSGg...



Shocking Video Islam taking over Britain - YouTube
Video for muslims taking over the uk▶ 5:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlNyNcxrAOE..

YOUR THE ONE TALKING SHIT..I SPEAK THE TRUTH.. I KNOW WHAT I KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW.. ;D

Now get out ISLAM AND GO BACK TO THE DESERT  ;D ;D...WHAT A SHITTY RELIGION..
Yes i have read some of the KORAN..IT SHOULD BE BANNED ..And should never be read to children.
MIND YOU...YOU LIKE FUCKING KIDS ANYWAY..PROOF IN THE VIDEO ABOVE >:(..

If i went to New Zealand i would be buying a house plus have skills..
And New Zealand love British people so much  ;D ;D ;D..
But now i don't need to go anywhere I GOT MY COUNTRY BACK ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D..

Now immigrants.. You say they benefit the UK ..Yes The good ones with money or skilled workers..
Now for skilled immigrant workers..WHY have we not trained our children to fill most jobs before offering them abroad????????..
All this BULLSHIT saying the people don't want the shit jobs :D :D TOTAL LIE..
The kids i know would shovel shit for 50 pounds a day..BUT someone come from somewhere else and do it for 30 pounds..

Now i was born in the UK And my family go back hundreds of years living in the uk..
NOW I HAVE NEVER GOT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY OFF THE DOLE IN MY LIFE >:( >:(

My £14,000 in benefits helped build my house: Romanian ... - YouTube
Video for romanian builds house on benefits youtube▶ 0:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVKkw4RjsBA

Now for the MUSLIM PROBLEM ;D..YOU DON'T THINK LIKE WE DO..NOW PACK YOUR BAGS AND FUCK OFF ;D ;D ;D..Now if you give up YOUR SHITTY RELIGION AND BLOW UP ALL YOUR MOSQUES
YOU CAN STAY :D :D :D :D :D :D :D..

Now lets get one thing straight and it's a fact..WE VOTED OUT BECAUSE WE HATE ISLAM..
And we hate Anybody telling us what to do and how to feel LIKE THE EU...

NOTHING TO DO WITH COLOUR.. IT'S HOW YOU THINK..IT CLASHES WITH BRITISH VALUES..

YES DO YOU HERE THIS .....FUCKING BRITISH VALUES..NOT ISLAM VALUES ..
Take your sand religion back to your desert where it belongs  ;D ;D

Racist Muslim man abusing innocent British girl - tells her " GO TO ...
Video for muslims abuse british girls▶ 1:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYHbICsBpoA
 
MUSLIM GANG RAPE EPIDEMIC IN UK - YouTube
Video for muslim gang rape uk▶ 14:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLzQ-ybumrY

Twelve men who repeatedly gang-raped and abused teenage girl
8 Feb 2016
A Muslim councillor has admitted that some feel as though 'it takes two to tango' as 12 .... 'Not all British ..

Jurors Shown Footage Of Callous Murder Of Soldier Lee Rigby ...
Video for lee rigby murder▶ 3:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC8a-1qiedk

Stacy Dooley - Are Muslim Extremists Invading Britain - YouTube
Video for muslim extremists taking over britain▶ 4:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdHaOFnnSGg...



Shocking Video Islam taking over Britain - YouTube
Video for muslims taking over the uk▶ 5:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlNyNcxrAOE..

YOUR THE ONE TALKING SHIT..I SPEAK THE TRUTH.. I KNOW WHAT I KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW.. ;D

Now get out ISLAM AND GO BACK TO THE DESERT  ;D ;D...WHAT A SHITTY RELIGION..
Yes i have read some of the KORAN..IT SHOULD BE BANNED ..And should never be read to children.
MIND YOU...YOU LIKE FUCKING KIDS ANYWAY..PROOF IN THE VIDEO ABOVE >:(..

She Think she knows but she knows what she been told on tv..
Now let me show you something what some people need to get into there heads..

POPULATION OF ENGLAND IN 2016: With more than 53 million people,
Englands land AREA  130,395 km²
 
Texas 1 state in the USA POPULATION 26.96 million (2014)
Texas land AREA   696,241 km²..

population of Scotland was 5,347,million
Scotlands land AREA  80,077 km²

Irelands population  4.595 million
 Irelands land AREA  84,421 km²

Now England have 6 times more people in the same amount of land mass as Scotland and Ireland
So when Scotland say England are raciest ..WE JUST CANNOT COPE NO MORE..

Now to IRELAND AND SCOTLAND..
It's nice you can go for a stroll in the meadow while sniffing the wild beautiful flowers while your wife is riding your horse down the glen..

WE ARE SUFFERING WITH THIS..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlNyNcxrAOE

AND THIS..Non muslims destined to go to hell, British Police Go To Hell Muslim ...
Video for stacey dooley muslim in leeds]▶ 4:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nlIfn8tNA

Now to the USA do you see the size of Texas to England 1 state..Now you might get a feel for what where dealing with..Wont take long This ISLAM TO TAKE OVER THE UK..We only got a small mass of land compared to your 50 states..

IRELAND AND SCOTLAND..Want out of the UK so if they go They can have ISLAM in there lands
because not that many people in your lands so you will be able to cope with all that land mass and not many people...

I HAVE LOADS OF IRISH MATES ..DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD SAY :D..FUCK THAT :D :D

Muslims living in IRELAND.. 49,204 Muslims..Now the land mass not that much different to ENGLAND.....60 Times more Muslims live in ENGLAND ALONE :o :o

Muslims living in scotland..77,000 muslims..Now land mass not that much different to England
40 times more Muslims live in ENGLAND ALONE :o :o :o

Muslims living in England...30 Jan 2016 - England is home to more than 3 million Muslims and growing and growing..

NOW SCOTLAND  AND IRELAND YOU FUCKING HAVE THEM FOR A CHANGE AND SEE HOW YOU ALL GET ON..
Now Ireland Catholics lets see how you all get on..
So before you call us raciest..YOU HAVE AGO..NOT MANY PEOPLE IN YOUR LANDS

And also in England the 3 million Muslims are the ones we know who are here
How many MUSLIMS unaccounted that live on KEBAB SHOP FLOORS..And live in a room with 5 people in 1 bedroom??

MUST BE 5 MILLION MUSLIMS MORE LIKE....

And to RICHARD BRANSON he likes BITCOIN..YOU FILL THAT ISLAND YOU OWN WITH MUSLIMS AND SEE HOW YOU FEEL..

Yes i know you sold up and got the fuck out..VOTING FOR REMAIN :D :D :D..YOU NEVER WAS HERE TO VOTE FOR REMAIN YOU LIVE ON A ISLAND..
So where are you remaining THICK SHIT..On your Island or in Birmingham  ;D ;D

pisses me off people like you ..come and live here before you judge.. ;D ;D ;D

 

Now john think of this you got the good ones ..
To expensive to live where you live for the poor riffraff to rent or buy a house
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J80AGEvRQOg..

Interesting videos popcorn... I didn't know that situation was like that in the uk. Where are the ninjas girls? In Bahrain or Yemen they were in the street... Maybe outside of the peninsula they still have much to learn...

Anyway thank you for posting! Cosmopolitans people supported by money printing to pay their security and luxury on the head and shoulders of the rest of the population... The 2 new elements are the fact that it's possible to watch how fractal corruption is, and as expected emerged on a cosmopolitan scale and those observations are possible for 4-6 years old with the Internet...

Now remarks I like about soldiers restoration is that the metropolitan oligarchs can often assassinate the fist among the Justs but his officers and generals... Once they saw they knew. One of the biggest moment in western military history is the moment the Roman legions learned about the assassination of the one who wanted to fight corruption... Good luck oligarchs... Bcz it's one thing for a group of senators wanting to preserve the renting schemes to sword a man who came to discuss and reform, another against professionals in arms knowing.

Popcorn1: to think that the real problem is population and or immigration is not only stupid, it's also the proof of your complete blindness towards the real problem of the West.

Wow, how did I miss this golden nugget earlier in the thread?

I get that you're watching from afar, but you might need a new telescope or something, as either yours is clearly broken, or you have a completely different definition of "libertarian" to the rest of the known universe.  The UK, much like the US, has no major libertarian (economic right) parties, only authoritarian ones.  It has a few libertarian-leaning politicians, but Farage sure as hell isn't one of them, despite how he tries to sound in his interviews.  He's a former member of the Conservatives and has only become more authoritarian since his departure.  His party, UKIP, are just a more hardline incarnation of the tories, funded by former tory donors.  They're practically knocking on the doors of borderline fascism.  Call me crazy, but I thought that was the opposite of championing the rights of the individual, like someone who is "pretty libertarian" would?

I suppose next you're going to tell me Trump is a libertarian too?

Actually I'd say Douglas Carswell, the only UKIP MP, is a libertarian. Farage of course is not, he's a populist. I wonder what will happen to farage now. He is no longer needed as a member of the european parliament, and Britain refused to elect him to the House of Commons last year. So he's at a loose end. After dinner speaking beckons, methinks.

Cameron is saying that he will keep the freedom of movement for European citizens, even after the Brexit. Then what is the use in UK seceding from the EU? The Romanians and Poles will continue to pour in to the UK, and they will suck the coffers dry.

Exiting the EU will not stop immigration, because we still need access to the single market.
My fear is many people voted exit under the illusion it will.

Not surprised in the slightest and was fairly certain throughout the debate that would be the case.  It was always a strong likelihood that we would have to accept freedom of movement, you just never heard anyone from the leave campaign admit it, heh.  Also, I'm quite pleased with this as economic migrants don't, in fact, "suck the coffers dry".  They contribute more than they take out and the UK economy is going to need all the help it can get.  If, as a bonus, it also disenfranchises those whose fixation is migration and they refrain from voting in future as a result, then I'm fine with that too.   ;D

UK is a very tolerant country in regards to immigration, and we should be rightly proud of that. A good number are very hard working with good work ethics.
But annual net migration of 336,000 in this tiny country is simply unsustainable. Roads gridlocked, schools oversubscribed, massive housing shortage, hospitals at breaking point.... etc, people are right to be concerned.

At some point something is going to give. I don't what it will be, but it won't be pretty.

We should refuse this. It's incredible that UK tries to take whatever it wants from EU and refuse the global regulations. We shouldn't allow something like this, it's really kneeling down to keep UK in something EU-like ><

They should have only two choice, accept the duties and advantages of EU or refuse them. That's all folks :/

We need to leave the single market, this is not how and what the people voted for, we have no trust in Brussels at all, if the government continues on this path, then the brexit would be for nothing, what is wrong with free and open trade?

Cameron is one fucked up dude, he has no intentions of following our reasons for getting out., and neither will the next PM.

YOU CANNOT GET BENEFITS FROM THE UK WITHOUT BEING A CITIZEN!!!
I think there should be two things that we try to get from the "brexit" vote:
Access to the "single market" - to continue trading as normal
Freedom of movement - to compromise with the EU to suggest tht we accept them in our country.

I believe that everything else should be no longer standing as these two things are the main things that us and the EU need and benefit from!

I think Borris Johnson is our best hope for negotiations out of the EU as I think that he will ge tht ebest for the country.
David Cameron called this vote to happen but cannot cope with the result (or the fact that he lost)!
I feel also that we need to remain in the single market as it is the only way that the UK can prosper.
However, as long as the big businessess don't commit treason by leaving the UK to DIE then we will survive out of the EU!

That about sums it up Buffer - Blighty ( the magazine is going back a bit :) ). Even the sobriquet for the country seems to have fallen into disuse.

Stuff the EU - Blighty rules. :)

How come when the markets went down brexit got the blame from remain voters, yet now it's on a year high we don't hear nothing from them?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-stocks-idUSKCN0ZG2GC?il=0

I doubt you would like to hear the reasons for it:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/boes-mark-carney-hints-at-summer-rate-cut-1467299787

Prepare your tax money gentlemans.

What the hell. I am very surprised with the results. I never thought Brits will do something crazy like that. Incredible. Incredible and smart.

EU is becoming a shithole with everyday. Brits will suffer some economic losses but in the end it will be better.

On behalf of the sheeple who do not agree with the democratic process if it does not fall in line with their requirements academia and legal experts who are in disagreement with the chattel are not having it.Their shills are on overtime in order to reverse this referendum by all manner of trickery and doublespeak.
"Dr. Catterall believes that the Tory party should call a referendum in the Autumn once a new leader is elected "so as to create a negotiating position."

But he adds: "I think that's still fraught with difficulties because you'd have to be very, very clear about what the question is and even clearer about what the answer is. And you'd have to be damn sure you're going to get the answer you want because the risk is you're going to get another cock up like this one."

Dr. Catterall says there is a danger that Britain could be trapped in "never-endums" — a series of referendums as the public reject deal after deal that London negotiates with Brussels.

    You'd have to be damn sure you're going to get the answer you want because the risk is you're going to get another cock up like this one"

In the meantime the sheeple who suffer from helsinki syndrome have taken to the streets.


http://static6.uk.businessinsider.com/image/577a1fa64321f136158b5b5e-1940/rtx2jd5j.jpg

LOL!  Stop trying to educate them. So many people still believe that you can get benefits from state without having the citizenship...