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I expect it to pass $8-$10 mark in the next 2-3 months.

https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/740954014225948672

Anything more to add to this prediction?

Because some tweet told you so?

Counterparty is still a highly respectable project, but probably long past a pump without 'tangible' new developments

Even more reason to distrust a price prediction.  ;)

Maybe he came across this CoinTelegraph article.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-to-gain-ethereums-functionality-through-counterparty-launch-by-autumn

I respect the Counterparty project and the folks behind it, but there has been no really uplifting news from that camp for months now, no?

Holy crap, I just checked, xcp already making a killing, over 0.004 and climbing.

No analysis, I just came here to party!  ;D ;D ;D

I'm tempted to dump all over this rally, but I don't really have that much xcp in the grand scheme of things, so I'm always hesitant to sell my position of projects that I like.

(There are so few projects that I like  :'(  )

Counterparty is a great project which seems to actually have values. I don't think the price will get that high because the big whales have kept away from it. Hopefully I am wrong.

1. This is my own tweet.
2. It was made earlier this month.
3. I do not own a single XCP.
4. Can't say for sure, but Counterparty was never hyped and it is a valid project. At least in my views.

You do not understand technology:

I do not understand why you are jumping on pretty much every thread with your 150 quotes? Do you need some help?

It is clear from my prior post that you need help understanding the technology of CounterParty is flawed.

I don't know why you don't appreciate the free education I give you.

Because I don't need it? Try to be positive from time to time, it won't hurt you.

That's ironic coming from a person who's promoting Failcoin. lol :)

I'm only joking. Counterparty looks good.

I am not promoting it, I am in fact one of it's leaders.

With regard to "tangible new developments" I think that was a valid view 6 months ago, but the project has been revitalized on several fronts. We have daily code commits on our github repos that outpaces most other crypto projects by a wide margin. In the last month, developments include:

* all the EVM work being done (almost live on testnet)... Faq at http://counterparty.io/docs/faq-smartcontracts/
* p2sh support added (https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/pull/818)
* payment channels work (https://github.com/F483/picopayments) that will soon be merged in
* revamped docker based build system. Works on Linux, Windows and Mac OS. (http://counterparty.io/docs/federated_node/)
* numerous counterwallet updates (https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterwallet/compare/1.7.0...master)
* revamped website (Chinese and Japanese translations in the works)
* Counterparty-lib test suite overhaul
* tons of bug fixes (eg https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib/commits/develop)

Feel free to join our slack and ask away/get involved, as well: http://slack.counterparty.io

"Valid project?
ok, i'll buy that. but... any facts?? new announcements? partnerships? nothing?

dont get me wrong, XCP seems a good project but you made a projection of the price so it must be based on something.

very little volume moves this one quite a bit both up and down. it will be interesting to keep an eye on it over the next few weeks as more news should affect the price, as previously mentioned.

Can't say I am any more interest in buying XCP now than I was before opening this thread. I don't like to post negative stuff but this is the most stupid thing I have seen at least this week.

Step one: write a tweet "X is going to Y".
Step two: post it here.


I think next time you should actually have something to say that lends credibility to a prediction of 400% increase in price. Then I would enjoy reading it and possibly invest if I agree. But I only own Bitcoin Factom and Ethereum now. And doing research on NEM.. so I'm very picky and prudent in my investing and only want to put money on things that accelerate crypto.

This section of the forum is called "Altcoin Discussion" and Counterparty could be called altcoin. My prediction is not an "investment" advice and I just shared a hunch. Would will be better to talk only about "coins (scams) of the day"?

it will become a huge success

Anyone know yet what % one must hold in order to vote?

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Actually I am gonna go away now.. not gonna get into this.

It's your choice to do it. I just shared a hunch. ;)

Correct me if I'm wrong, until Bitcoin Lightning, smart contracts will still be in Bitcoin's 10 minute block cycle?

I wouldn't be surprised, seeing as how they're tied in with so many other coins and projects. Next time I make a profit off some trades, I'll be investing into xpy...just hope I don't miss anything big beforehand :)

You are, of course, smarter with your 150 accounts and 210 quotes from old posts. I just shared my opinion and that's it. You can share yours in a better manner.

the first part is true (Bitcoin does not validate Counterparty transactions), but it doesn't follow that there is thus no record of consensus. counterparty keeps its own "ledger in a ledger" that it assembles from decoding Counterparty protocol data payloads from any Bitcoin transaction that contains them, using the reference client code at  https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterparty-lib ,

it has been working well for over 2.5 years now

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There is no longest chain rule Nash equilibrium if the miners aren't validating the CounterParty transactions.

You can dump that technobabble nonsense on the fools here, but you can't fool me.

Remember I warned about the failure of The DAO and the technical problems. Heck I told the founders of Ethereum back in 2014 this would happen.

Ethereum was working fine also, until the money honeypot was large enough and the breakage was significant enough, and then it was proven I was correct.

Nobody listens to an expert. So go ahead...

More discussion was here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1518508.msg15283868#msg15283868
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1518508.msg15284907#msg15284907
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1518508.msg15371923#msg15371923

Any news on XCP? It's up 30% at the moment, close to its 24 hour high.

Get a life.


Better check their thread, website or blog (if they have one). I am not (and I never did) hold any coins, nor following its development closely.

I've been watching Counterparty (XCP) ever since this post and have seen it rise the last 3 days. They are having a meeting to discuss the EVM integration tomorrow, all are invited via Slack (counterparty.slack.com). I would assume the rise in price is related but not completely sure.

or possibly: http://www.livebitcoinnews.com/counterparty-and-storj-unveil-payment-channel-technology/

Well, the price rose with $0.95/coin for the past 16-17 days (since I started this thread). This I can call steady growth, but I'm not 100% sure that it will reach the price I tried to preddict.

"Storj and Counterparty Partner to Add Support for Payment Channels"

Full story: http://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-blockchain-proof-of-concept-storj-and-counterparty-partner-to-add-support-for-payment-channels

Looks like these news gave another push to Counterparty and it's currently worth $4,31 (about $1,80 more since this thread was started).

I payed attention. :)  EVM + payment channels is exciting news for Bitcoin.

I'm paying attention since long time ago, but currently I just can't afford to invest. I'm following (though not closely) Counterparty since the beginning.

also, according to their slack (counterparty.slack.com) they are working on assets for Spells of Genesis. We've seen gaming alts soar as of late (GAME, BCY).

I'm surprised volume isnt higher. If they deliver. it allows Bitcoin transfers at Ethereum and Bitshares type speeds. All the 10 min block criticisms of Bitcoin go out the door. My understanding might be weak.

I failed @ that prediction and XCP had some ups and downs, but it is still up by ~40% since I started this thread. Maybe it will need another month or two... who knows...

you are going to be happy buddy, chart is looking great:

https://i.imgur.com/IuIRh3X.png

Looks like it is breaking it's most strong resistance (on which it already bounced since the break out, bullish sign).

Very good risk/reward ratio on that pullback, but bigger volume would be better to put more weight on that break out.

let's see how it pans out.

until now counterparty is still good project why you say killing
your coin fail coin is compare another coin is intgerate develop with xcp your coin still under

you can see scjx, brust, fldc ,ltb coin and more much coin develop integarate with counter party
is still cool enjoy and no problem

Any reason? What will it have so you are so confident about the price pump.

Yeah, right. :D I do not own any XCP and btw there is a downtrend as we speak.



Not sure what you mean.


Confident? No, but I do think it is highly underrated.

XCP was expensive in end of 2014. The price was over 0.01, if they can develop ethereum virtual machine on XCP, the price will rise again.

No, it was in fact over 0.021. ;)

Is the development of this project still active though? I do not have any idea about what is going on begind XCP and to the ordinary cryptosphere observer's eye like mine, the project looks like it is slowly being abandoned because of lack of any interest in it. So any price rise that would happen would make me think that this is another pump and dump event happening.

That is only my opinion and I would like to be corrected so that I can gain more insights in your discussions.

XCP is steadily moving toward the target 0.015 In a few days

Counterparty is today's top gainer and the price is already $6,15.

Here we are now, always unzoom your chart... I hope you went in in that pullback... I am now out, won't break the bigger scale triangle now probably... if it does, let's hope for another pullback  ::)

Nah, I don't do trades for quite a while now.

Why that ? got burn ? I trully advice you to read as many books as you can on trading (like alexander elder trading for a living, good start) or you would continously get rapped there.

No, I got "burned" by not buying or selling too early. I've almost never lost on trades with alts. Point is that I was working with investor which kinda screwed me with my salaries and I left them our entire crypto portfolio (except FailCoin, of course). ;) 

which you good luck with that, you'll come back stronger  ;D

What is good about XCP?
This coin does not gather much attention for people unlike ETH and XMR but it is creeping up slowly.
I don't really understand about all the decentralized exchange in their website but it looks similar to ETH.

XCP is a fairly stable coin, does not have wide price fluctuations. Though it has the potential of gaining more supporters if it delivers on its promises.

Actually it had and the price at some point went up to like $6. Some people are slowly pumping XCP. I still believe it is a nice buy (even at the current price).

I sold all my coin for that price. Now waiting re-enter.

I have to say that XCP really did last a while. Most of the coins here don't even last 1.5 years and they have been worn out from Pumps and Dumps, Fud and was left abandoned from Dev's.

XCP featured cool things from what I remember...things like the card game and regular company shares was awesome to see during these years.

And I have to say that I didn't made even a peek to their progress since like more than a year. But I'm kinda familiar with the tech and I just thought it should receive some deserved attention.

The ZCash will be released later next months, that could affect the price of most of the altcoin in the future.

Yes could affect the price of every single stock market, foreign currency, commodity in the world  :o :o :o :o

I am lucky to hold some counterparty just in case the price will go sky high. But being an holder of counterparty requires a lot of patience.
For some reason this train needs time to get fueled.

now crucial times, went down support after forming a head and shoulder pattern, but now is back at it. we'll see if it is still a support or became a resistance.

The price of the coin is not rising. Maybe the big rise for the counterparty has finished and it will be quite.

0,0069 holding, could be a good buy spot in term of risk/reward

what is zcash
and where link anncoumenet zcash coin
who is dev zcash
this platform zcash use counterparty

I think the price would go lower than 0.0069, I can see a down trend from now till the end of the year and this trend is common to most Altcoins

It highly depends on what will happen in the "war" between Bitcoin and Bitcoin Ultimate. I'm not sure if you guys are aware of, but currently BTCU is with 10%+ share in BTC network.

https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/787606202075246592

0.0025-0.0035 area.

Best place to accumulate some XCP

Took some to, but I am less confident as what I was on the trade below (almost x2 in no time).

What are you talking about? You sound like a bagholder trying to hype the coin. If Counterparty really had somewhere to go it would have gone already. The problem with the platform is it is spamming the bitcoin blockchain. There is no need for it because the blocks are full as it is.

Thanks for that extremely qualitative analysis hope your sign campaign enjoyed it.

And what are you talking about? I think that Counterparty hit ~$6 about 3 months after I posted this thread. It hasn't reached $8 - $10 as I was expecting, but everyone who decided to buy back then made over 100% profit. Now go reporting something else...

Counterparty a good project but from my observation there is alot of price manipulation, there are some set of people that are controlling the price movement and I think for now they have decided to move away their BTC and the price just keep dropping. I will wait for $1.2 - $1.5 range to get in

If it wasn't for FoldingCoin using their TOTAL JUNK EXCUSE FOR A BLOODY PAIN IN THE REAR JOKE OF A WALLET, Counterparty would be completely dead.

 Fees are a total ripoff to do ANYTHING with their joke wallet, when you do something you can't tell what the wallet is doing for a VERY long time at a time - sometimes hours - their exchange is nothing but junk nobody wants, the whole concept is just total junk.

 I will be supprised if Counterparty still exists by 2019, and will be TOTALLY SHOCKED if they manage to make it into 2020.

counteryparty can long time and still exist
because counterparty platform same nxt and ethereum, another people can develop coin use create token
you can see maidsafe and stojxcoin create coin use counterparty platform

if not abandoned development of the counterparty, the price up x5-x10 provided

Really every one should understand that company's growth will be confidential until releases some developments, i have been involving in counterparty more than a year now i have benefited many times by holding this coin because it gave me lot of profit many times. Even i am holding little counterparty coin and i still hold many reason i made lot of profit it. May in future we can make more returns on this coin for sure.

counterpary will killing because counterwallet always maintanance in last month
and sending fee in counterparty wallet system in counterwallet very high

Guys, you need to have a lot of patience in life to be successful. This is no different when it comes to investing.
Be it in Crypto or Stock Market, just stay invested for long term in solid and reputed projects and you will be rewarded.

Counter party has miles to go and it would be wise to hold it in your crypto portfolio. Most people do not realize this at this moment but in future surely  it willl have a major part to play.

very dificult if countery party xcp can major cypto coin, or maybe only major altcoin still is very dificult
still under ethereum, counterparty can't incraese user xcp and effect low volume transaction
much people use transaction xcp because high fee, you can try xcp wallet minimum balance 50k satoshi,
last week iam try send 5000 ltbcoin use counterwallet but fee over 100k satoshi

FAIL !!!

You are a looser Spartak!  ;D

so eazy to criticize guys that try to add value in here speculating with actual data just throwing the word "loser", i made my choice on who's the loser here.

The statement that Spartak made is only one example that most of the people in the community have no knowledge of trading, the markets and the future of the cryptosphere in general. Try to read all the specualtions thread here. Maybe more than 90% of them got their forecasts wrong. They also want to act like they are good at trading and want to have recognition in the forum.

Every one should also understand that every crypto trader will make good profit only when they have minimum market assumption because it will work only when we have long stability of coin, Even owner of the particular coin should make investors happy by showing some results on what they promised.

Let's see if I am a loser in this particular case. I started the thread back in June 28 and I said it could pass $8-$10 mark in the next 2-3 months, right? What happened on the following day?


https://i.imgur.com/gfIaidt.png


The price of XCP (as it can be seen on the screenshot above)  was 419,310 satoshi and the price of Bitcoin was ~$640. By September 21 (a ~week before the 3th month), the price of Counterparty was 919,286 satoshi and the price (see below) of Bitcoin was ~$600.


https://i.imgur.com/pbj0B71.png


This means that when I started the thread, the price of XCP was ~$2,68 and it reached ~$5,50 by September 21. FAIL? Yes, it didn't reached at least $8 as I suggested, but cryptocurrency market is kinda different (you have 'coin of the day', hype, pumps & dumps etc...), so not always coins who had actual development are equally 'supported' by traders (not to mention we have a lot of day traders who doesn't care about 'long term' 'investments').




Your statement is only 100th example of how you're trying to act like a smartass here. What did I told you about 20 days ago?:




Let's try to figure out the actual profit (if we assume that someone decided to buy back then and sold at the peak). The actual profit is 109% for less than 3 months. If you go to investor and tell him that he can make 109% profit in less than 3 months, he'll make you a blowjob. Funny thing is that you're talking about knowledge in trading. I'm no Warren Buffett and never considered myself as a good trader, but what I do have is certificate "A" for activity as a broker on Sofia Commodity Exchange. That doesn't mean that I'm an expert, but it does mean that I have some knowledge in trading, because these certificates are not actually given on the streets - you must study and show some skills in order to get it.


And, btw, I don't need to do anything to get recognition in the forum, because I already have it (at least from the guys with at least half brain). I'm almost always like this:


https://i.imgur.com/dYg1x9M.jpg


I have good reasons (at least I think so) when I'm saying something. I don't like to spend 250 hours in posts in order to prove my 'theories' (whether it is about trading, scam or some bs guy here on the forum), but when somebody like you pushes me (or oppose me), then I'm 'shooting' with my proofs. And do you know what's not in your favor here? I'm 100% right in these cases and you don't even have the chance to overturn me. Yes, there were some situations when I've said some yada yada in some threads, but I'm just human being...


There you go...

Cheers,
Spartak

Yeah right 🙈 I am sure you visit some baba vanga family friend 👍🏼

So did u actually sell at 6$ to realize your stated profit ?

Or did you wait for the 8$ and basically still waiting now ?

I think this would answer your question:

Well Spartak you are still wrong. Counterparty did not make a killing, it was only you who made a killing. You are trying to act that you are here to expose scams thru your "fail community" but all you want is to make profit in bitcoins.

Who doesn't want to make some profit? After all, FAIL started because of the many scams, but there's always a honest and transparent ways. I'm not going to read your future comments.   

I think a coin falls into the category of "scam coin" because its devopers are not making continous improvements, just like the DAO.

Why do you think so?
I dont monitor it closely, but i am on their slack from time to time and is quite busy.
For sure no one is paid to develop. it is not an ICO where they gather that much BTC to develop a coin. But developers do it in their spare time for fun. So no one has any right to call deadlines to them.