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Title: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: RandomQ on March 14, 2013, 09:43:57 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152996.0
Women recanted story saying she wasn't scammed Will check in the future to see if she changes her mind The WU transfer was sent to "TheButterZone" for BTC skype is bigtrader11 Email adnanwork86@gmail.com Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: Tomatocage on March 14, 2013, 09:53:51 PM He's been on the list since last week bro: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 14, 2013, 09:58:29 PM I'm just doing a good will deed of the Day. Trying to stop scammers
I passed on the Trade with him this morning, but another Member traded with him Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: TheButterZone on March 14, 2013, 10:07:43 PM Gathering dox to publish, if I don't get a confirmation from the WU sender that she
1) had her money returned (including reimbursement for WU sender fee) by 'paysafecardbitcoin' or 2) received the service she thought she was paying 'paysafecardbitcoin' for 3) achieved another satisfactory resolution, TBD by WU sender Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: shkiser on March 14, 2013, 10:09:16 PM This dipshit just tried to buy bitcoins from me..
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: Herodes on March 14, 2013, 10:17:57 PM Careful with all kinds of prepaid cards people, unless you're 100% sure you know the source of said cards.
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 14, 2013, 10:19:34 PM Careful with all kinds of prepaid cards people, unless you're 100% sure you know the source of said cards. Yup, because they buy them using Stolen Credit Cards But this wasn't what he was doing this time Western Union > BTC Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 14, 2013, 10:24:19 PM What the fuck is going on here?
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 14, 2013, 10:27:04 PM What the fuck is going on here? I talked with the sender of that WU transfer, Are you going to Provide that "Service" you had promised her Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 14, 2013, 10:28:10 PM Provide a what service?
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 14, 2013, 10:29:22 PM Provide a what service? She Said she was Paying the WU to Hire you for "Hacking Services" She had no clue she was sending Payment to a 3rd Party IE "Not You" Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 14, 2013, 10:32:16 PM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this.
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 14, 2013, 10:35:23 PM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this. So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: Raoul Duke on March 14, 2013, 10:37:01 PM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this. So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? The IP he used at my site is indeed Romanian. Same IP on a 6 days timeframe. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 14, 2013, 10:38:19 PM ITS MY HOME IP! WTF THIS IS GOING TOO FAR. what ip would you guys expected to see?
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 14, 2013, 10:40:50 PM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this. So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: Raoul Duke on March 14, 2013, 10:55:31 PM ITS MY HOME IP! WTF THIS IS GOING TOO FAR. what ip would you guys expected to see? Dude, I was trying to help you by saying that it wouldn't be strange at all if you paid money to a person in Romania because indeed it looks like you're in Romania, but if you prefer I keep quiet... Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 14, 2013, 10:55:55 PM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this. So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0 The Lady who Sent the WU to "TheButterZone" Was paying someone for "Hacking Services". This lady has fallen victim to scammers in the past and was an easy target for someone. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 14, 2013, 10:59:33 PM Guys i dont know the woman. I just helped someone. whats the problem? who i have to payback? i was happy for 15$ and this is what i get!
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 14, 2013, 11:04:30 PM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this. So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0 The Lady who Sent the WU to "TheButterZone" Was paying someone for "Hacking Services". This lady has fallen victim to scammers in the past and was an easy target for someone. I want to talk with the woman myself too! Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 14, 2013, 11:14:54 PM I'll let "TheButterZone" arrange things with you
Since he was the one to receive the WU and send you the bitcoins... He has all the information I have about the WU sender, her story and what happened etc. And to be honest with you I don't trust giving you the Senders Email and information Mainly from this comment you made this morning, when i turned down your trade "The source of this money is legit anyways. But you are right. who knows...internet is full of idoits in our days :)" Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 01:37:37 AM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this. So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0 The Lady who Sent the WU to "TheButterZone" Was paying someone for "Hacking Services". This lady has fallen victim to scammers in the past and was an easy target for someone. I want to talk with the woman myself too! Reading this thread, it's a red flag explosion. To quote your most recent PM to me: Quote Basically the money that was sent to you it was clean i didnt knew the story behind...i just helped someone for a small profit like you did with me. if you want we can do vice-versa and refund bitcoins, you refund the woman, and i get refunded by the guy paysafecardbitcoin: YOU provided me a WOMAN'S name, via PM here, as the sender of the Western Union. Do you know the difference between a man and a woman? What were the first 3 letters of the woman's first name, and last name? Who is this woman in relation to you? Who is this guy you have spoken of, both in PM to me, and publicly on this thread? What is the BTC address that you have provided to me? Is the BTC address that you have provided to me yours? If it isn't yours, whose is it? Please list all parties to this clusterfuck, their relation to you, each other, and me. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 15, 2013, 01:47:23 AM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this. So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0 The Lady who Sent the WU to "TheButterZone" Was paying someone for "Hacking Services". This lady has fallen victim to scammers in the past and was an easy target for someone. I want to talk with the woman myself too! Reading this thread, it's a red flag explosion. To quote your most recent PM to me: Quote Basically the money that was sent to you it was clean i didnt knew the story behind...i just helped someone for a small profit like you did with me. if you want we can do vice-versa and refund bitcoins, you refund the woman, and i get refunded by the guy paysafecardbitcoin: YOU provided me a WOMAN'S name, via PM here, as the sender of the Western Union. Do you know the difference between a man and a woman? What were the first 3 letters of the woman's first name, and last name? Who is this woman in relation to you? Who is this guy you have spoken of, both in PM to me, and publicly on this thread? What is the BTC address that you have provided to me? Is the BTC address that you have provided to me yours? If it isn't yours, whose is it? Please list all parties to this clusterfuck, their relation to you, each other, and me. Yes i know the difference between a woman and a man. I dont know who the woman is, i just helped someone with money . I was supposed to get the money from the woman but it was too late here. The person i spoke about is a person that somehow i know it the btc adress is mine. and bitcoins supposed to be mine as i paid the guy that gave me the wu details(wich in any case its not a scammer -> ask the woman) the woman knew that the money was sent for bitcoin to help out the person i talk about, so i dont know where the scam is. And if there is anything to be done i can refund the Bitcoins, you can refund the woman, and i have to get my money back from the person i spoke. For me its already a situation because my name is in mud. And yes i have a loan to pay this weekend. does this make me a scammer? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 02:06:33 AM Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this. So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0 The Lady who Sent the WU to "TheButterZone" Was paying someone for "Hacking Services". This lady has fallen victim to scammers in the past and was an easy target for someone. I want to talk with the woman myself too! Reading this thread, it's a red flag explosion. To quote your most recent PM to me: Quote Basically the money that was sent to you it was clean i didnt knew the story behind...i just helped someone for a small profit like you did with me. if you want we can do vice-versa and refund bitcoins, you refund the woman, and i get refunded by the guy paysafecardbitcoin: YOU provided me a WOMAN'S name, via PM here, as the sender of the Western Union. Do you know the difference between a man and a woman? What were the first 3 letters of the woman's first name, and last name? Who is this woman in relation to you? Who is this guy you have spoken of, both in PM to me, and publicly on this thread? What is the BTC address that you have provided to me? Is the BTC address that you have provided to me yours? If it isn't yours, whose is it? Please list all parties to this clusterfuck, their relation to you, each other, and me. Yes i know the difference between a woman and a man. I dont know who the woman is, i just helped someone with money . I was supposed to get the money from the woman but it was too late here. If you don't know who the woman is, how did you PM me her name? Your refusal to repeat the first 3 letters of the woman's first name, and last name, is a RED FLAG. Quote The person i spoke about is a person that somehow i know it That's a garbage sentence. Try again. Quote the btc adress is mine. and bitcoins supposed to be mine as i paid the guy that gave me the wu details(wich in any case its not a scammer -> ask the woman) We did. Red flag. Quote the woman knew that the money was sent for bitcoin to help out the person i talk about, so i dont know where the scam is. She has not said that to me, how about you, RandomQ? Red flag. Quote And if there is anything to be done i can refund the Bitcoins, you can refund the woman, and i have to get my money back from the person i spoke. So, working backwards... "the guy" needs to provide services to the woman<paysafecardbitcoin pays "the guy" minus "15$" commission(?)<paysafecardbitcoin receives BTC from TheButterZone<TheButterZone sends BTC to paysafecardbitcoin<TheButterZone receives WU<the woman sends WU to TheButterZone<the woman is given TheButterZone's name and city by "the guy"<"the guy" is given TheButterZone's name and city by paysafecardbitcoin<paysafecardbitcoin is given TheButterZone's name and city by TheButterZone<"the guy" asks for money from paysafecardbitcoin<"the guy" communicates to the woman that he will provide "hacking servces" to find her previous scammer RED. FLAG. EXPLOSION. Quote For me its already a situation because my name is in mud. And yes i have a loan to pay this weekend. does this make me a scammer? Your username is "in mud". Where have you provided your real name? How many red flags do there need to be? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 15, 2013, 02:21:06 AM As i can see you spend a lot of time trying to get me out from this forum wich wont happen because i`m unguilty.
THERE IS NO SCAM HERE. 1. WOMAN didnt paid for any services, she helped the guy out 2.I just did my trade part in this `game` but if i knew the story behind the scene i would definetly wont do any exchange 3.The guy confirmed me that she didnt paid him for any services and that he explained her about the bitcoin thing 4.Where is the scam and who scammed who? 5. the name was given to my like i gave it to you... I would really like to get things reversed. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 15, 2013, 02:25:00 AM 1. WOMAN didnt paid for any services, she helped the guy out " so I hired some computer hackers to see if they can find a man that scam me. and that's where I kinda am today ... apparently still getting scammed." " I'm praying maybe this time I'll win and he turns out to be honest man and he helps me find my scammer. " From the women Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 02:25:55 AM paysafecardbitcoin, YOU tell "the guy" to refund the woman, his "hacking services" client. And make sure he also reimburses her for the Western Union fee she paid to be a part of this 4-person scammy clusterfuck. I will be waiting for her confirmation that she has gotten her money back. You both have until end of banking hours in Romania TODAY to give the woman her money back. A PDF of this topic will be forwarded to politiacapitalei@b.politiaromana.ro - the Bucharest Municipal Police, if Monday rolls around and she still hasn't gotten her money back.
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 02:30:27 AM One important question: Was someone scammed?
If the answer is no, just cut the crap and go on with your life and lock this thread. If the woman comes to complaint about having been scammed, then re-open the thread. About you, paysafecardbitcoin, remember you were careless and according to you, you've been using your home IP to browse around, and nobody will have a problem releasing that information if you're proved to be a scammer. /thread Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 15, 2013, 02:31:47 AM paysafecardbitcoin, YOU tell "the guy" to refund the woman, his "hacking services" client. And make sure he also reimburses her for the Western Union fee she paid to be a part of this 4-person scammy clusterfuck. I will be waiting for her confirmation that she has gotten her money back. You both have until end of banking hours in Romania TODAY to give the woman her money back. A PDF of this topic will be forwarded to politiacapitalei@b.politiaromana.ro - the Bucharest Municipal Police, if Monday rolls around and she still hasn't gotten her money back. You can send anything anywhere. where is my fault in this thing?I still dont fucking get it where is my fault? who i stealed money from?Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 15, 2013, 02:33:03 AM One important question: Was someone scammed? I was careless because i`m not a scammer and i`m not here to scam.i could rent a damn vpn for 0,01 bitcoin a month or how much it is. I never thinked in my life that this will happen to meIf the answer is no, just cut the crap and go on with your life and lock this thread. If the woman comes to complaint about having been scammed, then re-open the thread. About you, paysafecardbitcoin, remember you were careless and according to you, you've been using your home IP to browse around, and nobody will have a problem releasing that information if you're proved to be a scammer. /thread Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 02:35:13 AM paysafecardbitcoin, YOU tell "the guy" to refund the woman, his "hacking services" client. And make sure he also reimburses her for the Western Union fee she paid to be a part of this 4-person scammy clusterfuck. I will be waiting for her confirmation that she has gotten her money back. You both have until end of banking hours in Romania TODAY to give the woman her money back. A PDF of this topic will be forwarded to politiacapitalei@b.politiaromana.ro - the Bucharest Municipal Police, if Monday rolls around and she still hasn't gotten her money back. You can send anything anywhere. where is my fault in this thing?I still dont fucking get it where is my fault? who i stealed money from?You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. FUCK. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: Herodes on March 15, 2013, 02:35:20 AM Careful with all kinds of prepaid cards people, unless you're 100% sure you know the source of said cards. Yup, because they buy them using Stolen Credit Cards But this wasn't what he was doing this time Western Union > BTC Not only stolen CC - sometimes it's whitewashing from organized crime, and you dont' want to be on the receiving end of that. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: paysafecardbitcoin on March 15, 2013, 02:38:19 AM paysafecardbitcoin, YOU tell "the guy" to refund the woman, his "hacking services" client. And make sure he also reimburses her for the Western Union fee she paid to be a part of this 4-person scammy clusterfuck. I will be waiting for her confirmation that she has gotten her money back. You both have until end of banking hours in Romania TODAY to give the woman her money back. A PDF of this topic will be forwarded to politiacapitalei@b.politiaromana.ro - the Bucharest Municipal Police, if Monday rolls around and she still hasn't gotten her money back. You can send anything anywhere. where is my fault in this thing?I still dont fucking get it where is my fault? who i stealed money from?You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. FUCK. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 02:51:41 AM You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Scammer Post by: RandomQ on March 15, 2013, 03:07:25 AM The Women has recanted her Story, Saying "The Guy" is not a hacker and that the money was now sent as "bitcoin trade" and that "He's a good guy"
I'll check back with the women in a week or so and see if "The Guy" is still a "Good Guy" and her friend. The woman is very easy manipulated, and it sad to see her being taken advantage of again, because she it just grasping for hope. Its just very Shady to use two 3rd Parties to complete a transaction I will post an update if she changes her mind down the road Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 03:13:26 AM One little advice to TBZ: If you can't handle the chance of being scammed on the amount of $125 you better stop now with your little BTC selling business.
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 03:20:25 AM You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor, judicial system, and criminal laws that may exist in most of the 'civilized' world"? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 03:23:01 AM You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor and judicial system"? Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens. Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 03:25:34 AM You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor and judicial system"? Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens. Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business. Did you see my name in the left column in the OP's spot? Reply to the right person, please. If one of the big boys screams Man In The Middle scam, what the fuck am I supposed to do? "Meh"? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 03:26:49 AM You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor and judicial system"? Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens. Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business. Did you see my name in the left column in the OP's spot? Reply to the right person, please. Exactly. You didn't even had the balls to start the thread yourself, you had to ask someone else. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: RandomQ on March 15, 2013, 03:27:21 AM One little advice to TBZ: If you can't handle the chance of being scammed on the amount of $125 you better stop now with your little BTC selling business. I think its the principle of it and not the dollar amount. I felt bad because I was going to post something on his thread that he could be doing a "man in the middle" scam after I turned down his trade, but I ran out of time and had to go to work I think he misrepresented this trade by not disclosing he was using another "3rd party" ontop of the 3rd party he already disclosed Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 03:29:07 AM You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor and judicial system"? Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens. Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business. Did you see my name in the left column in the OP's spot? Reply to the right person, please. Exactly. You didn't even had the balls to start the thread yourself, you had to ask someone else. He beat me to it by minutes, because he'd made the accusation in the first place to warn me. Stop sticking your foot in your mouth. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 03:37:19 AM So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to?
Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them. Think about that... BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to? Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth... Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens. Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business. Did you see my name in the left column in the OP's spot? Reply to the right person, please. Exactly. You didn't even had the balls to start the thread yourself, you had to ask someone else. He beat me to it by minutes, because he'd made the accusation in the first place to warn me. Stop sticking your foot in your mouth. Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 04:06:24 AM So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to? Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them. Think about that... BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to? Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth... I help other people fight scams, other people help me fight scams. psy: "OHMYGODTHESKYISFALLINGPEOPLEARELOOKINGOUTFOREACHOTHER" BTW, oh really, RandomQ posted a "scream scam" exactly, word-for-word, what I would have posted, had I been the OP? Sorry to disappoint your apparent belief in magic, or that RandomQ and I share a brain, and communicate everything exactly alike. It took a lot of red flags to get me to the point of screaming what you quoted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626433#msg1626433), which was not "screaming scam". In fact, I never said flat out that paysafecardbitcoin scammed anyone, nor would I have. I was planning to relate what I was told by people, and the fact that the totality of the circumstances made me suspicious, but not absolutely fucking certain that he was a scammer, otherwise I'd have just said scammer flat out. The closest I got was to "screaming scam" was saying "scammy clusterfuck" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626408#msg1626408) - this is no doubt a clusterfuck, with scammy indicators, otherwise nobody would have been able to spot the pattern of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 04:09:39 AM So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to? Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them. Think about that... BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to? Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth... Oh really, RandomQ posted a "scream scam" exactly, word-for-word, what I would have posted, had I been the OP? Sorry to disappoint your apparent belief in magic, or that RandomQ and I share a brain, and communicate everything exactly alike. It took a lot of red flags to get me to the point of screaming what you quoted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626433#msg1626433), which was not "screaming scam". In fact, I never said flat out that paysafecardbitcoin scammed anyone, nor would I have. I was planning to relate what I was told by people, and the fact that the totality of the circumstances made me suspicious. The closest I got was to "screaming scam" was saying "scammy clusterfuck" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626408#msg1626408) - this is no doubt a clusterfuck, with scammy indicators, otherwise nobody would have been able to spot the pattern of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack Go back to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626556#msg1626556 This is starting to look like a circle... Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 04:11:27 AM So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to? Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them. Think about that... BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to? Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth... Oh really, RandomQ posted a "scream scam" exactly, word-for-word, what I would have posted, had I been the OP? Sorry to disappoint your apparent belief in magic, or that RandomQ and I share a brain, and communicate everything exactly alike. It took a lot of red flags to get me to the point of screaming what you quoted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626433#msg1626433), which was not "screaming scam". In fact, I never said flat out that paysafecardbitcoin scammed anyone, nor would I have. I was planning to relate what I was told by people, and the fact that the totality of the circumstances made me suspicious. The closest I got was to "screaming scam" was saying "scammy clusterfuck" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626408#msg1626408) - this is no doubt a clusterfuck, with scammy indicators, otherwise nobody would have been able to spot the pattern of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack Go back to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626556#msg1626556 This is starting to look like a circle... And this is you: http://www.oppictures.com/singleimages/400/STD55140WP_1_1.JPG /ignore Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: shkiser on March 15, 2013, 04:17:26 AM psy do u have some relation to paysafecard or what. U seem really intent in defending him when its apparent as hell he took advantage of some poor woman. No he didnt rob her, but he obviously tricked her into sending money for services that were said to be provided, when it was truly for his own benefit. Sounds like some lowlife shit me to me. Q and TBZ are only trying to shed some light on the issue. Why are you butting your nose in anyways?
Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: Raoul Duke on March 15, 2013, 04:23:48 AM You have no balls to be running such a business, that much is clear.
So, when I accused you of having no balls to run the business you say it wasn't you who screamed scam, but when I'accused you of having no balls to post your scam accusations yourself your excuse was the OP beat you by minutes when he posted this thread, so you would also post a thread to Scam Accusations, right? Do I really need to continue? Or are you THAT stupid? You sure you wish to continue down this path? Dumbass... psy do u have some relation to paysafecard or what. U seem really intent in defending him when its apparent as hell he took advantage of some poor woman. No he didnt rob her, but he obviously tricked her into sending money for services that were said to be provided, when it was truly for his own benefit. Sounds like some lowlife shit me to me. Q and TBZ are only trying to shed some light on the issue. Why are you butting your nose in anyways? No, I'm just someone who still has a working brain. If they were trying to shed light on the issue they would contact the alleged scammer and all other interested parties and shed that light before posting a scam accusation and show everybody the dumbasses they are. Now that they posted, it is public and I can butt my nose in it all I want. Just like you're butting your nose. Should I also ask you if you have a relation with the OP or with TBZ or what? Because it seems to me you're really intent in defending them... Why are you butting your nose in anyways? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on March 15, 2013, 05:38:48 AM psy do u have some relation to paysafecard or what. U seem really intent in defending him when its apparent as hell he took advantage of some poor woman. No he didnt rob her, but he obviously tricked her into sending money for services that were said to be provided, when it was truly for his own benefit. Sounds like some lowlife shit me to me. Q and TBZ are only trying to shed some light on the issue. Why are you butting your nose in anyways? This is very suspicious but it is possible that paysafecardbitcoin did provide the services and just wants to cash it out directly to bitcoin? Title: Re: paysafecardbitcoin Makes Shady 3rd Party Trades Post by: TheButterZone on March 15, 2013, 06:08:34 AM psy do u have some relation to paysafecard or what. U seem really intent in defending him when its apparent as hell he took advantage of some poor woman. No he didnt rob her, but he obviously tricked her into sending money for services that were said to be provided, when it was truly for his own benefit. Sounds like some lowlife shit me to me. Q and TBZ are only trying to shed some light on the issue. Why are you butting your nose in anyways? This is very suspicious but it is possible that paysafecardbitcoin did provide the services and just wants to cash it out directly to bitcoin? He said he wasn't able to provide the hacker services to help the lady track down her scammer. The only service he provided is in this scheme as far as I can tell, working backward: "the guy" needs to provide services to the woman<paysafecardbitcoin pays "the guy" minus "15$" commission(?)<paysafecardbitcoin receives BTC from TheButterZone<TheButterZone sends BTC to paysafecardbitcoin<TheButterZone receives WU<the woman sends WU to TheButterZone<the woman is given TheButterZone's name and city by "the guy"<"the guy" is given TheButterZone's name and city by paysafecardbitcoin<paysafecardbitcoin is given TheButterZone's name and city by TheButterZone<"the guy" asks for money from paysafecardbitcoin<"the guy" communicates to the woman that he will provide "hacking servces" to find her previous scammer |
