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Title: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Elwar on July 12, 2016, 11:45:01 AM
What if there was an app type of game where instead of just getting points for going places and killing monsters, you go to places to kill monsters and get bitcoins?

But the "monsters" and locations would be different based upon your demographic/interests. And people could incentivize a certain type of person to go to certain locations.

The app could also access your personal information such as age, gender, hobbies, finances, etc.

Imagine you're a Jeep dealership and you're having a huge Jeep sale. You drop some bitcoins right smack dab in middle of your dealership and let the app summon 20-40 year olds that are into outdoors/Jeeps.

Or a nightclub instead of ladies night putting some bitcoins inside the club to attract 21-25 y/o females. Even some rich guy could drop some near him to get the ladies to come over.

A strip club that puts some bitcoins attracting males with good finances to come in.

There could be some sort of beacon that draws people toward the place which might be brighter for more bitcoins, beep faster as you get closer. Maybe have it take a little while to "mine" the bitcoins in the location so you're apt to stick around a bit (and do some shopping/browsing).


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: 0xBTC on July 12, 2016, 11:47:25 AM
What if there was an app type of game where instead of just getting points for going places and killing monsters, you go to places to kill monsters and get bitcoins?

But the "monsters" and locations would be different based upon your demographic/interests. And people could incentivize a certain type of person to go to certain locations.

The app could also access your personal information such as age, gender, hobbies, finances, etc.

Imagine you're a Jeep dealership and you're having a huge Jeep sale. You drop some bitcoins right smack dab in middle of your dealership and let the app summon 20-40 year olds that are into outdoors/Jeeps.

Or a nightclub instead of ladies night putting some bitcoins inside the club to attract 21-25 y/o females. Even some rich guy could drop some near him to get the ladies to come over.

A strip club that puts some bitcoins attracting males with good finances to come in.

There could be some sort of beacon that draws people toward the place which might be brighter for more bitcoins, beep faster as you get closer. Maybe have it take a little while to "mine" the bitcoins in the location so you're apt to stick around a bit (and do some shopping/browsing).

It'd be a cool idea but I guess the money ruins the fun and it'll be filled with loser desperate for a few cents. I think it would be best to just leave the game and not make any shitty knock offs.

The idea itself is great, don't get me wrong. But if it's for money, at a point it'll stop being a game and more of an activity just for money.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Elwar on July 12, 2016, 11:59:38 AM
What if there was an app type of game where instead of just getting points for going places and killing monsters, you go to places to kill monsters and get bitcoins?

But the "monsters" and locations would be different based upon your demographic/interests. And people could incentivize a certain type of person to go to certain locations.

The app could also access your personal information such as age, gender, hobbies, finances, etc.

Imagine you're a Jeep dealership and you're having a huge Jeep sale. You drop some bitcoins right smack dab in middle of your dealership and let the app summon 20-40 year olds that are into outdoors/Jeeps.

Or a nightclub instead of ladies night putting some bitcoins inside the club to attract 21-25 y/o females. Even some rich guy could drop some near him to get the ladies to come over.

A strip club that puts some bitcoins attracting males with good finances to come in.

There could be some sort of beacon that draws people toward the place which might be brighter for more bitcoins, beep faster as you get closer. Maybe have it take a little while to "mine" the bitcoins in the location so you're apt to stick around a bit (and do some shopping/browsing).

It'd be a cool idea but I guess the money ruins the fun and it'll be filled with loser desperate for a few cents. I think it would be best to just leave the game and not make any shitty knock offs.

The idea itself is great, don't get me wrong. But if it's for money, at a point it'll stop being a game and more of an activity just for money.

Well, there were other GPS games before Pokemon Go. I played Ingress for a while.

I agree about the money aspect. It would be as annoying as the signature posters of bitcointalk but in RL. But at least people will be able to get RL people to show up places.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: bitdumper on July 12, 2016, 12:05:56 PM
well i think you should try with a beta version and see the response i am sure there will be money hungry gamer if you give those payouts on game but you can control them by giving vouchers instead of btc in your game which can only be redeemed in your site. just a part of concept from dragon tail just to get a little security.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: cloverme on July 12, 2016, 12:17:24 PM
Check Butterzone's project/idea, has a similar theme:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1147688.msg12089170#msg12089170


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: mindrust on July 12, 2016, 12:20:43 PM
This "pokemon go" thing is a goddamn madness. I can't stop playing it. I even play while i drive. I collect pokeballs and even catch pokemons while i drive my car. Complete madness.

Sad thing is, you can't oversuccess (can't even come close) pokemon by replicating another shitty app which use bitcoins. You may only have a chance if you somehow offer "sex" to your users. pokemon is downloaded more than tinder did in 5 years btw.

Pokemon is magic.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: tspacepilot on July 13, 2016, 04:17:21 PM
What if there was an app type of game where instead of just getting points for going places and killing monsters, you go to places to kill monsters and get bitcoins?

But the "monsters" and locations would be different based upon your demographic/interests. And people could incentivize a certain type of person to go to certain locations.

The app could also access your personal information such as age, gender, hobbies, finances, etc.

Imagine you're a Jeep dealership and you're having a huge Jeep sale. You drop some bitcoins right smack dab in middle of your dealership and let the app summon 20-40 year olds that are into outdoors/Jeeps.

Or a nightclub instead of ladies night putting some bitcoins inside the club to attract 21-25 y/o females. Even some rich guy could drop some near him to get the ladies to come over.

A strip club that puts some bitcoins attracting males with good finances to come in.

There could be some sort of beacon that draws people toward the place which might be brighter for more bitcoins, beep faster as you get closer. Maybe have it take a little while to "mine" the bitcoins in the location so you're apt to stick around a bit (and do some shopping/browsing).

I think this isn't a bad idea.  People love free money.  In order for it to become actually viable with the types of people you're talking about (clubs, dealerships, people selling things) then bitcoin would have to become a large bit more popular and accessible.  As easy and fun as bitcoin actually is, a lot of people still just consider it "for hackers".  Nevertheless, I think your idea isn't too bad.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Valzador on July 14, 2016, 06:09:47 AM
Considering that Google invested 25 million dollars into Pokemon GO and the creator also helped create Google maps, you're gonna have to spend a lot of money getting a team that could create that game.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: BellaBitBit on July 14, 2016, 04:38:15 PM
This "pokemon go" thing is a goddamn madness. I can't stop playing it. I even play while i drive. I collect pokeballs and even catch pokemons while i drive my car. Complete madness.

Sad thing is, you can't oversuccess (can't even come close) pokemon by replicating another shitty app which use bitcoins. You may only have a chance if you somehow offer "sex" to your users. pokemon is downloaded more than tinder did in 5 years btw.

Pokemon is magic.

You do it in the car? We are all doomed, Pokemon Go zombies are everywhere.

In regards to crypto it would be amazing if I crypto could integrate with something like this and it would be even better if it would be Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: hatshepsut93 on July 15, 2016, 06:43:21 AM
Maybe I didn't read the OP carefully, but how does this game plan to earn profit for its creators?


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Elwar on July 15, 2016, 07:32:15 AM
Maybe I didn't read the OP carefully, but how does this game plan to earn profit for its creators?

A few options:
Business/person drops 1 bitcoin, game company puts .95 bitcoins out for people to grab (keeps 5%).
In order to get the bitcoins you have to wait while a video plays (advertisement).
Charge for the app.
Usual pop-up ads.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: M28MmickT on July 15, 2016, 11:21:45 AM
Rewarding real money for games will end as same as most game economies end; with very low prices and rewards that could not be profitable for most people.

Example: Blizzard games like World of warcraft, Diablo 3, Second life.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: eternalgloom on July 15, 2016, 11:23:42 AM
What if there was an app type of game where instead of just getting points for going places and killing monsters, you go to places to kill monsters and get bitcoins?

But the "monsters" and locations would be different based upon your demographic/interests. And people could incentivize a certain type of person to go to certain locations.

The app could also access your personal information such as age, gender, hobbies, finances, etc.

Imagine you're a Jeep dealership and you're having a huge Jeep sale. You drop some bitcoins right smack dab in middle of your dealership and let the app summon 20-40 year olds that are into outdoors/Jeeps.

Or a nightclub instead of ladies night putting some bitcoins inside the club to attract 21-25 y/o females. Even some rich guy could drop some near him to get the ladies to come over.

A strip club that puts some bitcoins attracting males with good finances to come in.

There could be some sort of beacon that draws people toward the place which might be brighter for more bitcoins, beep faster as you get closer. Maybe have it take a little while to "mine" the bitcoins in the location so you're apt to stick around a bit (and do some shopping/browsing).

I think this isn't a bad idea.  People love free money.  In order for it to become actually viable with the types of people you're talking about (clubs, dealerships, people selling things) then bitcoin would have to become a large bit more popular and accessible.  As easy and fun as bitcoin actually is, a lot of people still just consider it "for hackers".  Nevertheless, I think your idea isn't too bad.
If you look at it the other way, then I would say that a game like this could probably get more people into Bitcoin. If you manage to make the game itself fun, it's not like it's extremely hard to get into Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: CoinBreader on July 16, 2016, 07:03:17 AM
What if there was an app type of game where instead of just getting points for going places and killing monsters, you go to places to kill monsters and get bitcoins?

Or a nightclub instead of ladies night putting some bitcoins inside the club to attract 21-25 y/o females. Even some rich guy could drop some near him to get the ladies to come over.

A strip club that puts some bitcoins attracting males with good finances to come in.

I love this one! because all the gold digger chicks will be in the same place the same time ,showing of to each other who is the hottest and all this for the eye of the guy who will drop some btc around!!  ;D

Now i dont know about the strip club if he will attract rich males, because they will be after the btc profit and not the stripper  ;D
but any how its a very nice idea that need work and i can see it coming an alt coin with such use..mark my words   8)



Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Patatas on July 16, 2016, 10:41:16 AM
--snipe--
The thing about Role Playing Games is ,the only way to make money is through the game stores or inbuilt shops to buy upgrades.To keep the game more fair,one shouldn't be allowed to buy everything in a day.Like,if a guy makes a new account he can buy as much as updates with bitcoins and level up more than the guy who has been playing the game since 1 month.People lose interest.Now apply the same concept in your proposal,people will a lot of bitcoins would definitely enjoy it while others would still be struggling to find something cheap.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: btc4peace on July 16, 2016, 01:28:11 PM
I had the same idea.   I decided I would rather make a simple text based android game that pays like RPG style... Find treasure, sell to merchant, create an economy...

I already have a bitcoin app that is paying people to watch video game streams from Twitch.tv (search Google Play for Twitch Potato or visit http://twitchpotato.com)  it is passive income, no clicking required, no captcha.  It is a 100% revenue split based on your contribution %

I have some Bitcoin investments that are paying into the fund and if you would want to create an app, get ahold of me via the contact info on TwitchPotato or here.



Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Elwar on July 16, 2016, 05:56:30 PM
Now that I think about it, the fact that it would be just like attracting signature campaigners on here is actually attractive from a business standpoint. They are like zombies on here, posting senselessly coming from everywhere for their tiny bits of satoshis. No reason the same can't be done in the real world with real world zombies.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: PassThePopcorn on July 16, 2016, 09:32:47 PM
Now that I think about it, the fact that it would be just like attracting signature campaigners on here is actually attractive from a business standpoint. They are like zombies on here, posting senselessly coming from everywhere for their tiny bits of satoshis. No reason the same can't be done in the real world with real world zombies.
The difference being on here search engines see the links getting posted over and over again and up the sites search results. Having a bunch of mindless people looking for a few cents at your business isn't a great idea, they are only there to get those few cents you are offering, why would they want to spend more at your place of business?

Someone has already found code in pokemon go that shows McDonalds and its thought that Niantic will change pokestops to advertisers places of business to get more people to congregate around them, and those people would be coming to just play a game, not as beggars.

@Elwar, Pokemon go and Ingress were made by the same company, most of the gyms and pokestops are portals from Ingress.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: electronicash on July 18, 2016, 02:30:49 AM
Pokemon go itself is a revolutionary idea itself really, if a dev can add some features taht we could earn bitcoin i will definitely play it all day. Maybe even forget bitcointalk.org for it if we really need to get out on the streets to catch pokemons :)


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Elwar on July 18, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
I think I'll take a crack at this.

In the most simple terms I will focus on:
Facebook login (which comes with user information such as age, gender, # of friends, etc.)
GPS location of the user.
GPS location of the contributor along with guidelines such as demographics of users desired, amount of bitcoins available, max amount per user, time window and radius. This part will sit on the server.
Collection system for contributors to the server.
Distribution system from the server to the users.

Initially the screen will simply be a beacon type of GUI showing distance/direction to the nearest distribution point along with information on the amount. Maybe just a countdown with a "mining" gif once you are within the radius. Something where you can put your phone away and wait for it to "mine" your bitcoins so you can actually socialize/shop/order a meal/etc. without needing to keep your eyes on your phone like with Pokemon.

I could likely do something that simple then expand from there.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Kakmakr on July 19, 2016, 08:20:23 AM
Why do you want to link identities to Bitcoin, because this would exclude a lot of people who would rather want to play this anonymously? I know it would be a great marketing tool to target specific individuals, but I still think Bitcoin Apps should protect people's privacy. You could still link people's phone numbers with the App, if you want to trace cheaters, but that should only be privileged information that should only be accessible to the game developer.

Let's not offer up our financial privacy, like people had to do with Ripple in the beginning. It will restrict your potential market. ^smile^


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Elwar on July 19, 2016, 08:34:45 AM
Why do you want to link identities to Bitcoin, because this would exclude a lot of people who would rather want to play this anonymously? I know it would be a great marketing tool to target specific individuals, but I still think Bitcoin Apps should protect people's privacy. You could still link people's phone numbers with the App, if you want to trace cheaters, but that should only be privileged information that should only be accessible to the game developer.

Let's not offer up our financial privacy, like people had to do with Ripple in the beginning. It will restrict your potential market. ^smile^

That's where the money comes from to get the money to the users. Business owners and contributors will likely want a certain demographic.

I don't necessarily want any names, just demographics that attract contributors to give away bitcoins.

Imagine a huge political rally happening in one location and someone puts out some bitcoins for all people who are libertarian leaning (based upon their Facebook likes and shares).

Or a new band with a certain style trying to get people to come watch them attracting people who enjoy their type of music.

Someone giving a presentation on home fire alarms might want to attract home owners.

Plus using Facebook, considering the distribution will be limited to a per person basis you can more easily weed out people who created a new account and only have a few fake friends. And you can give the option of posting on the person's wall "Jim Smith just made 50 millibitcoins on Bitcoin Chaser. Want to make bitcoins too? Click here.".


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: onlinedragon on July 19, 2016, 08:37:14 AM
Location based games are the new hype or is this all because of Pokémon. Think it will be hard to developing such game if you don't know if it will get any succes also other games didn't had any long lifetime if they were Bitcoin related. Also mostly the games who pay in bitcoins didn't manage to keep people paying that mostly cause since Google started Bitcoin related websites/games banning there Adsense account.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: sirohige on July 19, 2016, 08:41:35 AM
that's good idea, just for information geocoin use geo system for share free geocoin, i think you can use that's system, but need more improvement.

simple concept for "bitkemon go (bitcoinpokemon)" you can sell your pokemon to bitcoin, you can buy pokemon with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Dogedigital on July 19, 2016, 02:12:02 PM
This "pokemon go" thing is a goddamn madness. I can't stop playing it. I even play while i drive. I collect pokeballs and even catch pokemons while i drive my car. Complete madness.

Sad thing is, you can't oversuccess (can't even come close) pokemon by replicating another shitty app which use bitcoins. You may only have a chance if you somehow offer "sex" to your users. pokemon is downloaded more than tinder did in 5 years btw.

Pokemon is magic.

Please don't.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Alanay on July 19, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
What would stop people from creating multiple addresses on multiple VPNs from taking all the BTC available at that location?


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Elwar on July 19, 2016, 04:50:49 PM
What would stop people from creating multiple addresses on multiple VPNs from taking all the BTC available at that location?

That's the point of the Facebook link. I would probably use something like amount of friends (and friends of friends) to pop up some alerts at the system admin level. I created a MUD back in the 90s that only allowed one character per person and I have a lot of experience stamping out duplicate users abusing the system.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: tspacepilot on July 19, 2016, 05:38:01 PM
What would stop people from creating multiple addresses on multiple VPNs from taking all the BTC available at that location?

Some part of this might also have to be allievated by simply making it very onerous for small reward.  Imagine that in principle it's possible, but say that you're dealing with hundreds of satoshis per, well, that's a lot of work to cheat for fractions of a cent.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Kakmakr on July 20, 2016, 06:14:29 AM
What would stop people from creating multiple addresses on multiple VPNs from taking all the BTC available at that location?

Some part of this might also have to be allievated by simply making it very onerous for small reward.  Imagine that in principle it's possible, but say that you're dealing with hundreds of satoshis per, well, that's a lot of work to cheat for fractions of a cent.

Well we have seen many people draining faucets with very sophisticated bots and these small rewards did not stop them. One bot can create havoc and it is virtually unstoppable, if it is done right. I ran a faucet for a while and these bots cleaned my pool very quickly.

You would need someone to check this 24/7 and to react very quickly, when something like this hits them. ^sad^


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: MadCow on July 23, 2016, 06:42:42 AM
Others have tried geolocation for crypto distribution but discovered it was too easy to game


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: bitcapitalist on July 23, 2016, 05:55:19 PM
Do you want to create a "Pokemon" game? You would need to get the trademark and many other things. Your game won't be as popular as Pokemon GO right now.

I would think about creating a game with a whole new idea involving bitcoin.



Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Straux on July 25, 2016, 07:03:51 AM
For one, people only like Go because there's pokemon. Secondly, the idea of getting paid will turn people into monsters. They won't play the game for fun, but for money. They may even bot for money. Also having variable locations is super hard, not to mention the manpower it will take to mark down every location.

Bad idea.


Title: Re: Pokemon Go type of game that pays people bitcoins
Post by: Elwar on July 31, 2016, 11:57:36 AM
This one looks as good as anything I could've put together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGlhoFg8qHo