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What happened::
I was contacted by this guy who introduced himself to me as Braffr.com owner and wanted me to start up a signature campaign and make signatures.So I did made him a signature for Full Member,Senior Member and Hero/Legendary ranks and he said me that he will be paying me after 1-2 weeks. Later on I noticed a thread regarding selling of brafflr.com and his crypto related social accounts and asked him for payment of my signatures.He even did said that he will pay me even after.After waiting for 2-3 days when I again ask him about him payment he sends me a PM that seems like he is not going to pay me. Though i haven't gave him signatures yet but still I did a hard work making those signatures.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=549004 (iwasneverhere)

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1410437.msg15412515#msg15412515 (a post by iwasneverhere on my thread asking me price for managin signature campaign)

Amount Scammed:
0.05 BTC

Payment Method:
Bitcoin

PM/Chat Logs:

In starting PMs he described me about the promotion he was going to run . So I will cut it and post chat logs from main part.


After I made him the signatures and posted him with image of signatures.


I posted him the full overview of a signature campaign costs and how i will be running he posted me this:-


Later on i noticed a thread regarding selling of brafflr.com and sent him a PM


He replied:


And I replied him with my BTC address asking him to pay me 0.05 BTC

I again sent a PM asking about the payment and he replied me


and later on today i again sent him another PM asking for payment and asked him if he needs some time


And he sends me this


Additional Notes:

Thread regarding selling of brafflr.com : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1542143.msg15503467#msg15503467

Help me guys and post of with your opinions regarding this.
I can answer to all questions that you have their in your minds regarding this.

Also I would request DT members to turn this guy red.

he holds the account of iwasneverhere ->kingofswing profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857659

And he actually sell that account on digital goods and i dont know if iwasneverhere or kingofswing related since i dont see any trace of iwasneverhere loaning on KOS lending thread.

But who knows maybe they are related and only kingofswing can give us clarification regarding to this issue.

Digital Section thread where he was selling the iwasneverhere account.

Check: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552124.0
sorry for your loss bud.

Feel sorry with your loss Avirunes, i assumed he want to sell his account in digital goosd section for avoiding this problem. Hope DefaultTrust member can give that account negative trust until this problem resolved, so he can't sell his account.

Well at least you didn't give him the signatures, only loss of time and frustration, take a deep breath and move on, that's my advice to you.

Well i think for sure he owns it then unless he has anything to prove that he got in some auction or buying it from some guy.

He seemed like a honest guy from first end. Didn't thought about a second.Seems like i have to change my workstyle by asking my customer to escrow first.


Yeah but still time is precious. :D .I did put a lot of work and all goes vain.

I feel like the one who replied this to you is the new owner. It's also likely that the previous owner has deleted all the PM logs of the account and sold the account to run away from his responsibility to pay you. So when the new owner received your PM, he has no idea what's that for. He also has an alt in here, you might want to PM that one as well. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg15600858#msg15600858

Hi.. I was pmed and was sold this account for .03.. Pm was empty and no neg trust so I paid.. What do I do? I don't have .05

If you would remove the feedback, I'll sell the account, recoup my .03 and give you whatever's left.. Other than that idk.. :(

Any thread or something to proof that you got the account from somewhere else.

Ya in my pms one sec

I got this:
Then when I agreed to buy:
This info was given
login: iwasneverhere
pass: sk1ttl3sc4ndy
email: iwasneverhere@yopmail.com

Please don't tell us that that is still the email of iwasneverhere. That email is accessible by anyone. So to sum up what's happening in here:

1. iwasneverhere asked Avirunes to make a signature code and run a signature campaign as well.
2. Days/weeks passed and iwasneverhere said he was "busy" on his "baby" and was unavailable to pay Avirunes. He then asked Avirunes to wait for some more days.
3. Account iwasneverhere was sold to KingOfSwing by dantanas in this thread --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1548294.msg15564674#msg15564674 (so we can conclude that dantanas is an alt of the original owner of iwasneverhere and he deserves a red tag for running away from Avirunes)
4. KingOfSwing is now selling iwasneverhere again 1 day (or even hours) after he bought the account from the previous owner.


The "selling" of account was done obviously so that iwasneverhere can run away from Avirunes. But it is also possible that KingOfSwing, dantana, and iwasneverhere are all the same person and is trying to get away from Avirunes by "selling" the account to "another" user.

hey I only bought it at .03 because I thought I could resell it for more.. I have no assosication with dantana

Regardless of who the owner is, the account iwasneverhere shall be tagged red. Unless the owner of iwasneverhere pays Avirunes 0.05 BTC.

It's weird because in this thread --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1542143, dantanas and iwasneverhere talked to each other as if they were two different individuals. This was even before the account iwasneverhere was sold to KingOfSwing.

In light of this statement, I sold the account to someone else. Now it's thier headache

@KingofSwing You sold the account to new owner and you said it his headache now? i think you got liabilities with that thing since you sold a faulty product and the buyer could possibly ask for refund of he really do that.

in other hand Can you Show Some Proof that you Already Sold The Account  Send some SS convo or Tx so we may know that you are telling the truth here.

and also if you sold that account surely you got profit with that, can you give the other profit to avirunes so his hardwork would have worth and if you really not do that possible that account might really get some red paint from DT members,

https://brafflr.com/ this site was owned by iwasneverhere and since he dont pay the service he ask from avirunes this can possibly scam people if they try to play in this site so by that can we consider it as scam site?

The account iwasneverhere was magically "sold" to another person again. Just an FYI, an account with a red paint from a DT member has very little to no value.

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Nope, no thread or anything. He just "sold" it. ::)




This is quite unlikely. If he really did sell the account to another user, why would he share the money with Avirunes? He can just run away since his Jr. Member account has no value. Well, his red painted Sr. Member has no value as well.

Christ.  As if we didn't need more proof that account dealers are shady scuntbags.  This whole thread is just packed with more fabrications than a goddamn napkin factory.  Paint 'em all red, that's my advice.  It's the only color that fits.

If the story of KingofSwing selling this account to another user is true KingofSwing has indeed scammed the user who bought the account.

Hi.

This is currently ROBERTT in control of KingOfSwing's account. I have changed his password, email, and his gmail email:password.

Password: Abhin***

NOTE TO KINGOFSWING:
If you don't refund half the funds to the user you "scammed", you will not see this account & all your online accounts + your FULL dox will be posted on here, 4chan and reddit.

You have 12 hours.

LOL, It looks like your trying to fake this hack to get away from the fact that you scammed someone by giving them a defect bitcointalk account.

What a lame tactics just to avoid the compensation against selling faulted account stop fooling people here men and return the 0.045 you got from your buyer, he deserves  a refund since he cant do nothing for those accoun what you have been sold to him.

I'm not fooling, dumbass. He scammed the user so this is a threat.

Pay back or get your info leaked.

Simple as that.

We are not anonymous.

and I was the last victim of kingofswings , I hope there is a policy of the forum and all the users here to ask kingofswings refund my money . Let us be good . I 've made ​​a thread here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1554642.msg15610384#msg15610384

I am quite sure that you had read the warning on the selling thread and you even went into deal after knowing the account has an open scam accusation against. You didn't read the thread carefully so now pay for it.x

haha This is the funniest joke I have seen. The password of your account was changed after you sold off the other account so even if robertt hacked your account you were in control earlier.

If you are the real owner of KingofSwing you can provide a signed message from an old address and recover the account.

This looks really suspicious to me.

Don't worry, I won't leak your information. I'm not that much of a dickhead.

I've deleted all your information from my database. Sorry about that.

Message THEYMOS to get your account back.

"Sorry KingofSwing, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
You have been banned by a forum moderator. You may appeal here: banappeals-w6pquw43@theymos.e4ward.com ."

Post a thread in meta and sign an address + show him my posts here.

Wait... So you agree that you scammed Affiliate User while you were in control of your account.
How did Robertt manage to hack your account immediately after you scammed him?

I am sorry but this story doesn't add up.

I want my money full, and I will restore iwasneverhere to you , let us be good

Quoting these for reference that want0sell (KingOfSwing) really did scam Affiliate User. He admitted it himself. Just after birdmeko and KingOfSwing got banned from this forum, another alt of KingOfSwing appeared from nowhere. A number of things/deals has happened in this thread but Avirunes still hasn't got his payment.

This whole story looks shady to me.

KingofSwing promised to give Avirunes whatever is left after he sells the account and now he claims that the account is sold and Avirunes still hasn't received a payment.

aha , want0sell you 've confessed to scam me , but you do not want to refund my money , what are you waiting for?

Let me quote one of his previous posts.

@Affilate User: Just post a bitcoin address for the refund and find out if he was serious or not.

I 've sent him an address on the PM , he was still waiting for confirmation from Robertt , but if want0sell not send me these days , he should be given a red mark .

He needs conformation from Robertt to refund the money he scammed you? Even if the story is true he is refunding you because he is forced to and he might scam again in the future.

you are right, I hope he can change for the better .
want0sell you online please back my money.