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Hey all, i playing at a few site dice game then trying for betting. Then why every bet with big amount like be rigged? always lost. And i things i'm not lucky, but i still play same like that and same happens like this. So are you believe with Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY?

Yes, all dices are provably fair. So you can look into the guides on the site themselves which prove the bets are provably fair. There are also external verifiers which can confirm the bets are fair. Just make sure to change the client seed initially to be sure it wasn't preset to make you lose more.

I don't play Dice alot because it's hard for me to confirm it is fair. I prefer sports betting because you can watch an event happen and know the outcome and that the outcome can't be changed. It also makes watching sports alot more interesting.

It's not rigged you're just not lucky that's all and everyone knows we can't beat the house. May I ask what dice site are you playing on.

I'm not sure about all dice sites are provably fair how about 999dice the site turns out to be a scam.

I think they are fair, I probably lost a lot of money on dices but I don`t blame them at all. Even when I was in good plus I wanted more, I was greedy many times and cause of that I end with zero balance. I blame just myself for all that loses, if I knew when to stop I would have positive score now.
I saw many players lose same like me, its like moment when I think now they are mine, I will take a lot of money, I start to go down, I rise bet much more and think my hand will come on some high bet and then I fall on bottom.
People should be careful with dices, and to play smart. Everyone of us need to know when to stand up and chill few days, then try again.

keep in mind that there are some sites which have no provably fair system to let you set client seed, and those providing you with it you need to set your own seed and verify each time.

Most dice sites are provably unfair because no ine strategies dont work but i know one dice site where it only works but you can lose aslo so yoh must slip your bankroll to couple of places.

If the provable verification system is in place and correctly implemented then it is impossible for the site to cheat, unless they have found something that could be close to impossible. But it is as close to being trustless as it comes

All strategies don't work because all bets at -EV. They aren't rigged, if that is what your implying. The house needs to have an advantage, and if there was a awesome method that lets you never lose, wouldn't all gambling sites be out of business?

I believe in provably fair systems. In the end, you are just unlucky. It isn't extremely rare for you to lose if you bet with a big amount. Also, I haven't really experienced that - at moneypot, I made a bunch of large bets, and haven't found that I'm more likely to lose.

i don't believe that Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY? will be make we win, i think its about factor of lucky and the point here is you do not have enough lucky to win that dice game. but verification could make our account to be valid person rather than people with no verification. every member valid will get benefits from their account.

Yes indeed gambling such as dice indeed need luck. It was only to happy happy in my opinion, even if you continue to bet but if not lucky to still be lost. You can try to poker or betting football because it will be easier and can get a victory if it could analyze and have a strategy.

In my own opinion dice games in some sites are provably fair  and some are not i guess.  but  the  most common thing is  you would actually lose  on those dice games on the long run. Thats why i dont  play dice because  lots of money  ive lost in that game  then i decide to stop playing again.

it is not rigged at all , rarity to win than lost are the only reason people think that dice are a rigged game . a game which very fast to see the outcome and a feeling to keep playing make people looks have a terrible luck.

don't blame the game , but blame the provably fair system and the house edge.

Yup it's right. If we play Dice game in Directbet site, we will not get to know how they choose winners. Because once you send amount, they will send one link if you go through that link you find your bet result. It may win/lose. But how they rolled we not see. In Fortunejack and Rollins site, it is nice at least we see our result with our eyes. And in Dice game most of the time house edge profit is high.

i have been playing on primedice several months ago and lost 8 times in  a row and i think this is only usual things because provably fair doesn't mean the players will win and still the house have more advantages on every roll and until whenever we could not beat the house

It really depends on the site. If they have a strong provably fair scheme (when I say strong I mean the outcome can not be manipulated in any way and can be verified) then yes. It all comes down to your luck since you can verify that the roll hasn't been manipulated in any way and that's what you get. "Feeling" that the site is rigged because you lost some bets that you can actually verify it's kinda stupid... You have the exact evidence that support the contrary but you choose to believe the opposite because you "feel" like it with 0 evidence.

There are safe, legit websites and there are rigged (a few only) websites. Rigging a website is illegal, I think. But as BTC is not part of the laws, the owners can stay home and look at their wallets increasing in size second by second. People are raging over everything when they loose because 'it's rigged' - being unlucky isn't a reason to blame the website.

Search for gambling sites that are reputable and provably fair. Dont gamble on any sites that is not trustworthy coz in the end you will get disappointed coz you always loss. Maybe luck is not on your side. Try other games instead, maybe you can find your luck there. Sport betting is good. You should try that.

Every games who have provably fair like dice sites, roulette, blackjack is fucking rigged man. Provably shitty fair, rigged all the way. Even you win, in the end you will lose for sure.

Yep, most are provably fair, but there are quite a handful of dice sites which claimed to be 'fair' bat ends up being rigged. For me, the most trusted sites to play dice with are safedice (not because I advertise them, lol), Primedice and Fortunejack.

That is exactly the same what the CS Go gambling sites were saying and they still managed to trick everybody. Most of the games were rigged and the owner of the sites all are millionaires now.

I understand what you are saying but its nearly impossible to prove if the results actually are rigged or not. I think someone tried to prove it in the past and the results didn't provide sufficient evidence.

All dice is fair ? Really ? Well ok then.

As long as you can see the transparency of what's going on its fair. So if you can see the code and how it is run then you can know for certain its fair. Although even then there is glimmers of doubt's since certain things could be changed I suppose but I doubt this since it would be hard to hide cheating. What the OP describes does sound like it may be cheating but I dont take much notice since no sites have been names or videos of gameplay shown .

I have found only one or two questionable gambling sites after trying close to 100 .
You can feel when its fair. You just know. But think if you lose its not fair . Think with reason. If you find a strange pattern where higher bets and all ins seem to lose then be careful the site might be cheating, but ad I say this is rare. Most casinos generally want to give good service and payout on time. Sometimes they run into some problems so they take a while but mostly its good.

Don't worry, it all are fair, and i trust it. If you feel it, may be it is not your lucky day, try the next day, may be the next day bring it good news for you, and don't think that you are first person who lost in dice game, i am only play dice game because it is easy and most of time i win it.

In my own opinion, its a game of chance which is no respecter of the number of losses or winnings as long as it is based on probability. It is ok to feel to feel a form of cheating considering the number of times youve tried but that is chance. I have tried 20 times at a goal and still didnt win anything... So if you can continue till when chance will be on your side... My 2 Cents...

It sites has provably fair betting system implemented then I do believe that playing dice on that site is fair. As long as you can verify your bet it is all well. We can not call every site rigged just because we often loose money. It is actually natural of gambling to loose more money than we win.

When we expect with 50/50 chances to appear in a row then we wrongly take this provably system. This is how dice or other gambling works what I have understood about chances so far. These chances don't appear straight it is a overall ratio which can be adjusted at some point later to make them equalized. That's why green or red streaks appear multiple times in a row not one by one each in an arranged way.

You may want to reconsider their hobbies or as a last resort for the game need only use trusted resources. In the network appeared a lot of scams. So good luck and take care.

dice game definitely has provably fair, but it is difficult to know whether you have been cheated or not, but indeed we always feel cheated, when bigger bets always lose, but it is difficult to prove this. but sometimes keep playing and try luck.

Well that is maybe true but we have no proof though we can't deny that this stuff happen even in reputable sports like MMA , boxing, and alot more.  With dice provable fair but not actually fair because anytime house edge kicks in.  How can you say it is fair when there is some percentage dicrepancy.

yes they are fair or i can say they are just 0.001% unfare. but in gambling that 0.001% is enough to make some players to losse.but it depend more on luck than stratgy

Yup, this Dice game is made like this. If we go for a low bet, we have some chances to win our bet. Suppose if we bet high amount most of the time we lose our bet. I don't know how the site will identify our bet's. I think the site itself made like that. If we place high amount automatically, it will go for house edge profit. So just play with a low amount and enjoy the game.

i think the fair site is really low, generally i play only in 3-4 dice very old (like primedice, rollin), but the problem not is only the provably fair option, one site can have the provably fair but later the owner can close a site with all deposit and investment

Nope it cannot be rigged ,you can always verify the rolls with the server seed and the client seed.,

If you are playing on trusted websites like primedice or luckybit or rollin, you need not worry about it being provably fair. I used to check the hash and seed and when I got the surety that my bets are real and not tampered with in terms of the result, I continued playing.
There's nothing like right or wrong because gambling is just a luck-based game.

if the site is rigged even if you and me don't get it, but they will get caught sooner or later. you can always check this board for whistleblowers here that sometimes find some of them doing some shady business in the back.

although there is a difference between those who actually find something shady going on and report it to the public and those who make and alt account and start spreading FUD because they have lost something.

Until now I can't win in any dice gambling site like Primedice, PocketDice, Rollin.io and many more. So that I never believe in Dice Fair.  I don't why, but I think its because I'm to aggressive to bet and no betting strategy.

Well you should check their site, usually if the site is a honest site, they will provide for you the seed and then they will tell you how to check it, as far as i know after a few explanation from my friends, some of the site really legit, but if i may suggest play it for fun dont bet too big, eventhough they said its provably fair its really seldom we can win the game

I have the same feeling, always when I start to bet high I start to lose. In some moments I cant believe in results I get, how many times I miss on x 2 its incredible. Cause of that I stopped to play dices, after many trys without any win I stopped to invest in dices. I only play dices when I catch some giveaway or site promotion, and even then after some fun if I dont lose money I withdraw coins in my wallet.
I dont know are they fair or not, but fact is that many people lost a lot of money on dices.

Well i think the house are killing those high bets and i notice that also whenever i bet low i always win but when i put big bet i ended up losing thats why i think theres anomality hiding in some certain dice game(who knows) thats why i rarely play on those game aince i know it well ended up losing my money in just single wrong move and house will.

I think it's fair, but I can't be sure of it, because I don't know the system very well. Although I do believe that there are many users, or even competition, that would probably expose casinos if they were not being fair I guess. Also I never saw anything really unexpected happening to me in casino games. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, and most of the times I lose of course, but that's normal. In my case I'm actually being lucky, because for now I do have some profit, but is mainly because I use mostly bonus money, like the 70mBTC participation prize from the Tipster Championship. It's free money, so whatever I get from it it's profit lol

When I use my own money, I follow strict bankroll management rules, and withdraw my initial deposit as soon as possible. Sometimes I lose it all, otehr times I lose only a part of it, and some times I get lucky. So I guess I do trust the system right now.

Yes i do believe they are all provably fair means these can be trusted.Some times we loss at very small odds or loss consecutively 6-7 times then we think they are not fair and cheating.But thats only the bad luck,the sites which are provably fair are trustable.

I don't have how to not believe when well known and trustworthy provably fair gambling system in implemented. This is like a standard for online gambling casinos to certify them and it like surety that this particular site is not rigging in presence of this system. I do believe those site have fair dice games this is other thing house always wins because of the nature of gambling.

Yeah, I think it is indeed all gambling sites that use provably fair surely they have a home that is fair and there is no manipulation in each game that we did. Just greed and lust that makes us become a gambler makes us thinking that is not good. Gambling is very dangerous and is only a small possibility to get what we want

I think you are wrong. In Dice game, no strategy will work. Not only you for everyone it's same. Here only Luck can help people to make some money. So in this matter you just an unlucky boy, That is why, You played many sites, But then also you not able to make a profit here. So belief in Dice game is not fair.  

There still is the possibility to make a site a scam. You don't even need to rig it. Just close it with the reason 'a hacker stole our money' and leave away with it. Or just have a switch and when you got enough players, switch it and make withdrawals impossible 'because of an error' - anyone can rig a site or make a scam out of it. Just be cautious and aware of the risks. You've always been told that, once depositing your money, you're risking it.

Yup in Dice game losing our coins is common. Because of that, we should not blame site owners. The Dice game is made like that if you are lucky your number will appear. Otherwise no. Here only our luck will decide that we are in profit/lose.  So we should trust them that they are probably fair.   

It is not betting low or high but all bets made are provably fair and the result doesn't lie in the hands of the owner.
Sometimes I win with the least probability of 0.1% and sometimes lose with 98% too. It depends on the hash and seed assigned to us.

Almost all dices are provably fare, all the popular ones like Primedice or Rollin.io are 100% fair but I think most of them rig bets with high amounts of Bitcoins involved. It is nit hard to make a script that makes the chance go lower ehen higher amount are involved.

Most - not all - dice sites including bitdice, betking, primedice, bitsler are fair. Some are argued not to be though.

For me i dont be still believe about provably fair and there is verifier i dont know if i can believe because its just a program anytime we can hide the original script and the edited script only can be shown..
When i was gamble in live dice game in casino here in my coutry they are not the same, i can make profit in dice game in live game.. unlike in online and your enemy is computer..

In dice game, it is very common to hit consecutive losses especially the longer you play, the higher the chance to hit the losses. And the fair systems is a work of the genius. It is similar to the encryption code of the emails and other online security systems whereby it requires 2 keys to encrypt or decrypt the code.

Well I think it is. The looses and winning numbers are equal I suppose, the fact that we are loosing is that we are not perfectly timed to those win streaks or just that we are betting high amount on those loose streak. So I think, Luck is what makes us win and the perfect timing. And when we loose, it is not in the provably fair to blame. The word speaks for itself, Provably Fair

Yes Bro All Dice Sites are Probably Fair. You Can Also Check Reviews and Other Verifires Of a Particular Dice Website Which Confirms that the Dice Websites Are Probably Fair.....

Most dice sites are fair since every single bet can be verified following by some steps which many players know how to do. The problem comes with chances where many people mistake to understand and this leads them to think site is rigged. First off a roll on 50 % doesn't follow strict ratio of appearing results. It takes collectively all active players and it might be many unlucky players who fell in negative streaks. This is what happens as long as I understood. Well known dice sites are fair but it is chances.

In my own opinion, all those verify are shit and very far from the truth its just away to keep you coming back... Even in lottery too its the same thing...

Same for me, those seed and stuff are garbage, some sites make the verify process difficult as much as they can. For me the best way of being fair is to be fair. Period.
User-base will verify the service quickly. If its good the news will spread and vice-versa.
Never checked a single seed in those online cassino's, to much hassle. 
 

the lottery games that i have seen so far was never fair and have always turned into a scam and stopped working after a couple of rounds.

but the other games such as dice that are provably fair, they are indeed fair. and the fact that you don't understand the fairness of the game and the system they have doesn't prove it otherwise.

Yes, most of the dice game are fair, unless you play in untrusted dice site, all of the game can be proven using provably fair, some of the site even give you the third party site to check the result,so if you are losing then its your luck, and if you are not prepared to lose i think you better quit gambling

Well there's a sites to verify your bets based on seed code but I don't think that the probably fair rule of gambling are not that fair. Since all gambling sites gets profit. And better stop gambling and start practicing on your grammar.

Provably fair casinos have seeds to verify and you can use the MD5 Hash algorithm to verify it without any problems. If they were not provably fair soon enough many members would have express their opinion of such casinos not being provably fair and losing all of their customers. This is the last thing a casino owner wants for himself. So I think casinos and dice sites really are provably fair.

I think in Dice game if we compare lose and win numbers, The lost number will appear many times. I don't know how but I faced this problem. When I start the game, the numbers will come in my favour but after few roll automatically I lose everything that I earn. So I don't know it is my fault or site fault. Maybe site owners are fair it's my bad luck that's it.

You simply can't keep winning forever, because there is always the risk, and sooner or later you will get bad streak. I suggest you to withdraw and fixate part of your winnings to increase your value over gambling session.

Yeah, not forever gambling profits. Rather the majority of gambling will give us a lot of defeat and we can only benefit if we can do the bet correctly. Unless you already know his game, will definitely be a little bit of draw or the advantages that you get

Gambling at dice are fair?

Not all gambling site are fair better look at the background of the site and ask for some if your chosen site is good and profitable.

in dice game there were some sites that are just taking advantage of those who are desperate of winning, who are betting big amount, they will let you win in your first trials but when you get along then there will you be losing your money.

So better chose a reliable sites where you can play, enjoy and earn!
And this is better way asking here at the forum.

I believe that casinos with real provably fair system implemented are more trustworthy that standard FIAT online casinos where you can play with dollars or euro.
I mean from what I know non-crypto casinos usually won't even tell you how outcome of a game is determined - you just have to blindly trust that their random number generator is fine.

That is just a common scenario for a long time player. Some of that is like this winning in the beggining then lossing. Win big then lose all. Thats very common it just happen because no one can win in the long run in gambling. Eventhough they are trusted if you think they are rigging you then dont play on that site. As simple as that.

yeaaa i think bitcoin casino with high trust and tons of experience have more transparency.
they provide a code called hash etc and let us verify it with certain method.
and so far it's make sense , as long as it makes sense for me we can trust it.

Personally I wouldn't trust without good reason otherwise. I think most casino's that have dice are legit. Though maybe a few can hide it with good cunning ? It is possible. I would like to believe most casinos are honest :)

Yes, at least most of the trusted sites on this forum are fair in a dice game. But don't know how the new sites maintain their games fairness so I don't gamble on any new sites until they proved honest. Anyway in dice game we can't win in the long run because only luck can bring money in this game so I won't spend much money on this dice game.

yep. its hard to believe for me..for exmple if we play dice manually its hard to get number 1 for 4x streak but in online dice u can get 4x streak in 10 minutes  ;D

if by manually you mean rolling by clicking the roll button each time instead of using the auto bet then there is no difference.

but if by manually you mean rolling a physical dice then you are mistaking the numbers. in a physical dice you roll there is only 6 sides so only 6 possible numbers whereas in online dice there is a lot of possible numbers from 0.00 to 100.00

No, i think it is total fair, but in gambling most of the chances of lost your amount, so thats why you feel it, but i believe, nothing is wrong in it. But my opinion is chance from you, because i think it is easy game and a lot of chances has to win in it.

dice games are as fair as it gets, it is a bad game to play because you are always at a disadvantage mostly because of the house edge which exists in the game.
and there is no strategy in the world that can remedy that for you. you can check the history and stats of the dice players if it is not fake then they will all be in a loss in long term with a negative number showing it.

Though i know they are show about probably fair but honestly i don't believe it because we never know from where we got the results,

i found a site that shows how to verify a bet but i forgot the name of the site and it also shown how to verify the bet
yes i believe in gambling that use provably fair

As others mentioned. Bitcoin/crypto gambling sites is usually fair because of their provably fair algorithm. Thought, you will need to read about their provably fair. Some of it can be rigged while some can't. You really have to read it up yourself. By far I think that DirectBet and PrimeDice provably fair system is one of the best.

Dice is a software. Like at other software, you can get to know much about it from its source code. You can see it for yourself and you could consult with a trusted expert about it. When the source code is not available, extra high caution is advised, but you can still suggest from certain patterns. Even BCT's Staff said in their thread when source code is not available, the little red lamp in your head should light up.

Most bitcoin dice games base their fairness on cryptography - roll result is determined by hash of two seeds - one generated by casino and one by client. Casino generate their seed first, and revel its hash, so they have no way to alter the bet after player makes it. All seeds and hashes are reveled after roll, so players can easily check that everything was fair. So, you don't need source code at all.

That's true. Even without the source code if you know what you're doing then on the seeds and hashes you can guess how fair the game was. It is possible to check by any player in the game.

i don't think so if they are fair because they are also giving verifier to verify your game if you are not experience of fraud in their site..
Unless if you are professional in extracting the website to know the script of the site is not fraudulent..

   I don't know what to think about this, I play dices with their money, just from faucets. I don't invest my money into their sites, when even I tried to play with their money I lost. Because of that I`m afraid to deposit my money, I'm afraid I will lose my hard earned money in a second.
   I don't know is it me and my luck, or they are not fair, I can`t win nothing there. I always lose their faucets very fast, when ever I bet x 1.2 or  x 5 I lose. I see many people play, some have luck and win. I doubt that I will ever believe in dice sites enough to put my money there.

They always put "FAIR" at the front,actually they has setting it depend of how many mulply strike and bet amount

maybe they should mate because it will be their site reputation if they proven that they are not fair but always remember that we are playing dice and it is just luck we can't say what will happen next and we can't control what will be the next to happen, this kind of gambling is an easy to win and yet very easy to lose as well.

This one really depends.  If you are going to point out those dice game for me they are all not fair.  But when we are going to talk about poker not in the virtual world then i would say they most of it are fair

as long as the site has good repu , then for sure their games should be fair and I don't even bother verifying my rolls even my big ones
most gamblers ignore the fact that the site doesn't need to rig their games in order to be in profit
why would a site ruin their repu with such thing when they can make money legally !!

yes i believe that dice games are fair but only popular dice site only
they have provably fair also we can verify the bet
make sure if want to play dice just play only at trusted site

No Dice site is 100% Fair. If the dice site was fully fair, then it will not be possible for the site to earn and people playing there will win more often.

I think there are some algo and programming at the back end which save the Dice site from losing big.

Very true, that most dice gambling sites are very popular or famous has provably fair. because they are more concerned with users rather than profits, and if they use provably fair system is definitely an advantage they get much higher

It is good though that you can actually check if they do implement provably fair since if you can not prove it, may other casinos can simply claim that they do, when in fact they are actually rigged up casinos. I never want to risk my bitcoins in any gambling site which is not having the option to check the seeds. 

Most of them are fair and you had bad luck. Once i had 23 loss streak in a row, it is all about bad luck. If they would be rigged, they would have no players at all.

Biggest sites are very fair indeed, like primedice, although there are people said PD is unfair, but the proof shows PD is fair.

Top casino/dice sites are having a provably fair system through which you can verify your rolls and make sure they are mathematically not manipulated. However I would suggest you not to gamble much because if you keep chasing the losses you will lose more and then you will blame the site to be rigged which in reality in most cases not so. Still some sites are truly rigged and such incidents are reported in this forum.

I think the dice is not fair because it is set on the system, so it is unlikely we will win continuously. I once played dice on a few sites and as a result most of my defeat.

So you think "fair" means that you should win more than lose? If yes, than you are wrong, because fair means that result of each bet is truly random and casino has only a slight edge over the player.

Usually, after losing a lot of money gamblers think that they got cheated by these sites and it is common in the gambling industry. As long as I know, primedice is a game is fair enough to believe them, and they are the best in a dice game. You can also find few other good sites to play dice in this forum.

if you lose then change your strategy, it has nothing to do with the game itself.
being fair means you have the exact chance of winning that the site shows you on the screen and also it means you can check to see if the number you rolled was generated random or not. you can read about it more and also check it on the sites that you have played

Sometimes it came to my mind because it has no transparency. Im not a fan of dice. So i stay away from it. Aside from quick loss, im not having fun. I prefer card games because it need a bit of thinking.

Sometimes many people have won a big amount and the house lose. Some sites are not playing fair and others are not. Its up to you what site you are going to play. Better make a research for the site you are going to enter.

I don't think game need to be rigged. Take one coin from your wallet and do this: spin coin 1000 times and play every time on head and let that be 2X 50% chance. And calculate how many times did you hit head. Now, play with that coin double or nothing, and see how many times you will win or lose. That's not rigged, and i am pretty sure you will lose.

For me dice game is quite fair in some reasons but this would not apply for all. In my opinion if you are playing the game then that certain gambling site is in the stage of gaining profit so you really can't earn from it they surely are just going to take your money.

I agree. Some people think that just because it's fair means they should win, and if they lose, that means it's rigged. I mean, come on, it's a game mostly based on luck, and a bit of strategy and patience as well.
I was recently playing in a site and in the chat box one of the players was so happy and proud because he managed to make his faucet money of 2100 satoshi into 19mbtc. He did that with just 100 satoshi bet at a time using martingale and all his bets were done manually.
The time it took as well as the patience and control needed for that was hard. Not everyone could do that because most wants a quick big win.
To win big once or twice needs luck, but to actually make a profit would need strategy, patience and control too.

Have you talked to that man who managed to win 19 mBTC having as bankroll only his faucet money?
Did you ask how many times he tried to do that before? Or how many hours he spend losing before he finally managed to win that 11 dollars?