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August 02, 2016, 08:53:59 AM
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If the provable verification system is in place and correctly implemented then it is impossible for the site to cheat, unless they have found something that could be close to impossible. But it is as close to being trustless as it comes

That is exactly the same what the CS Go gambling sites were saying and they still managed to trick everybody. Most of the games were rigged and the owner of the sites all are millionaires now.
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August 02, 2016, 09:27:40 AM
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I understand what you are saying but its nearly impossible to prove if the results actually are rigged or not. I think someone tried to prove it in the past and the results didn't provide sufficient evidence.

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August 02, 2016, 10:50:46 AM
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Yes, all dices are provably fair. So you can look into the guides on the site themselves which prove the bets are provably fair. There are also external verifiers which can confirm the bets are fair. Just make sure to change the client seed initially to be sure it wasn't preset to make you lose more.

All dice is fair ? Really ? Well ok then.

As long as you can see the transparency of what's going on its fair. So if you can see the code and how it is run then you can know for certain its fair. Although even then there is glimmers of doubt's since certain things could be changed I suppose but I doubt this since it would be hard to hide cheating. What the OP describes does sound like it may be cheating but I dont take much notice since no sites have been names or videos of gameplay shown .

I have found only one or two questionable gambling sites after trying close to 100 .
You can feel when its fair. You just know. But think if you lose its not fair . Think with reason. If you find a strange pattern where higher bets and all ins seem to lose then be careful the site might be cheating, but ad I say this is rare. Most casinos generally want to give good service and payout on time. Sometimes they run into some problems so they take a while but mostly its good.

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August 02, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
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Hey all, i playing at a few site dice game then trying for betting. Then why every bet with big amount like be rigged? always lost. And i things i'm not lucky, but i still play same like that and same happens like this. So are you believe with Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY?

Don't worry, it all are fair, and i trust it. If you feel it, may be it is not your lucky day, try the next day, may be the next day bring it good news for you, and don't think that you are first person who lost in dice game, i am only play dice game because it is easy and most of time i win it.
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August 02, 2016, 03:58:13 PM
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Hey all, i playing at a few site dice game then trying for betting. Then why every bet with big amount like be rigged? always lost. And i things i'm not lucky, but i still play same like that and same happens like this. So are you believe with Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY?
In my own opinion, its a game of chance which is no respecter of the number of losses or winnings as long as it is based on probability. It is ok to feel to feel a form of cheating considering the number of times youve tried but that is chance. I have tried 20 times at a goal and still didnt win anything... So if you can continue till when chance will be on your side... My 2 Cents...
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August 02, 2016, 04:24:40 PM
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It sites has provably fair betting system implemented then I do believe that playing dice on that site is fair. As long as you can verify your bet it is all well. We can not call every site rigged just because we often loose money. It is actually natural of gambling to loose more money than we win.
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August 02, 2016, 04:46:53 PM
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When we expect with 50/50 chances to appear in a row then we wrongly take this provably system. This is how dice or other gambling works what I have understood about chances so far. These chances don't appear straight it is a overall ratio which can be adjusted at some point later to make them equalized. That's why green or red streaks appear multiple times in a row not one by one each in an arranged way.
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August 02, 2016, 04:52:40 PM
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Hey all, i playing at a few site dice game then trying for betting. Then why every bet with big amount like be rigged? always lost. And i things i'm not lucky, but i still play same like that and same happens like this. So are you believe with Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY?
You may want to reconsider their hobbies or as a last resort for the game need only use trusted resources. In the network appeared a lot of scams. So good luck and take care.
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August 02, 2016, 04:55:48 PM
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dice game definitely has provably fair, but it is difficult to know whether you have been cheated or not, but indeed we always feel cheated, when bigger bets always lose, but it is difficult to prove this. but sometimes keep playing and try luck.

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August 02, 2016, 06:04:35 PM
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If the provable verification system is in place and correctly implemented then it is impossible for the site to cheat, unless they have found something that could be close to impossible. But it is as close to being trustless as it comes

That is exactly the same what the CS Go gambling sites were saying and they still managed to trick everybody. Most of the games were rigged and the owner of the sites all are millionaires now.

Well that is maybe true but we have no proof though we can't deny that this stuff happen even in reputable sports like MMA , boxing, and alot more.  With dice provable fair but not actually fair because anytime house edge kicks in.  How can you say it is fair when there is some percentage dicrepancy.

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August 02, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
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yes they are fair or i can say they are just 0.001% unfare. but in gambling that 0.001% is enough to make some players to losse.but it depend more on luck than stratgy
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August 02, 2016, 06:29:23 PM
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dice game definitely has provably fair, but it is difficult to know whether you have been cheated or not, but indeed we always feel cheated, when bigger bets always lose, but it is difficult to prove this. but sometimes keep playing and try luck.
Yup, this Dice game is made like this. If we go for a low bet, we have some chances to win our bet. Suppose if we bet high amount most of the time we lose our bet. I don't know how the site will identify our bet's. I think the site itself made like that. If we place high amount automatically, it will go for house edge profit. So just play with a low amount and enjoy the game.
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August 02, 2016, 06:37:37 PM
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i think the fair site is really low, generally i play only in 3-4 dice very old (like primedice, rollin), but the problem not is only the provably fair option, one site can have the provably fair but later the owner can close a site with all deposit and investment
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August 02, 2016, 06:43:48 PM
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Hey all, i playing at a few site dice game then trying for betting. Then why every bet with big amount like be rigged? always lost. And i things i'm not lucky, but i still play same like that and same happens like this. So are you believe with Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY?
Nope it cannot be rigged ,you can always verify the rolls with the server seed and the client seed.,
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August 02, 2016, 07:39:34 PM
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If you are playing on trusted websites like primedice or luckybit or rollin, you need not worry about it being provably fair. I used to check the hash and seed and when I got the surety that my bets are real and not tampered with in terms of the result, I continued playing.
There's nothing like right or wrong because gambling is just a luck-based game.
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August 03, 2016, 09:49:58 AM
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Hey all, i playing at a few site dice game then trying for betting. Then why every bet with big amount like be rigged? always lost. And i things i'm not lucky, but i still play same like that and same happens like this. So are you believe with Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY?

if the site is rigged even if you and me don't get it, but they will get caught sooner or later. you can always check this board for whistleblowers here that sometimes find some of them doing some shady business in the back.

although there is a difference between those who actually find something shady going on and report it to the public and those who make and alt account and start spreading FUD because they have lost something.

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August 03, 2016, 10:05:10 AM
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Until now I can't win in any dice gambling site like Primedice, PocketDice, Rollin.io and many more. So that I never believe in Dice Fair.  I don't why, but I think its because I'm to aggressive to bet and no betting strategy.
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August 03, 2016, 10:34:32 AM
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Well you should check their site, usually if the site is a honest site, they will provide for you the seed and then they will tell you how to check it, as far as i know after a few explanation from my friends, some of the site really legit, but if i may suggest play it for fun dont bet too big, eventhough they said its provably fair its really seldom we can win the game


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August 03, 2016, 10:35:00 AM
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I have the same feeling, always when I start to bet high I start to lose. In some moments I cant believe in results I get, how many times I miss on x 2 its incredible. Cause of that I stopped to play dices, after many trys without any win I stopped to invest in dices. I only play dices when I catch some giveaway or site promotion, and even then after some fun if I dont lose money I withdraw coins in my wallet.
I dont know are they fair or not, but fact is that many people lost a lot of money on dices.



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August 03, 2016, 10:51:50 AM
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I have the same feeling, always when I start to bet high I start to lose. In some moments I cant believe in results I get, how many times I miss on x 2 its incredible. Cause of that I stopped to play dices, after many trys without any win I stopped to invest in dices. I only play dices when I catch some giveaway or site promotion, and even then after some fun if I dont lose money I withdraw coins in my wallet.
I dont know are they fair or not, but fact is that many people lost a lot of money on dices.

Well i think the house are killing those high bets and i notice that also whenever i bet low i always win but when i put big bet i ended up losing thats why i think theres anomality hiding in some certain dice game(who knows) thats why i rarely play on those game aince i know it well ended up losing my money in just single wrong move and house will.

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