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Title: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: manselr on August 01, 2016, 05:28:44 PM
BTC whales are in ETC fighting against the ETH blockchain. We will win and we will make some money doing it. Come support ETC to take over ETH. Bailoutcoin chain must not survive. Once ETC is stablished as the only Ethereum BTC price will continue climbing.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: ImHash on August 01, 2016, 05:38:05 PM
lol so you need firstly people to put their funds in etc to make it strong and only then btc would climb? either you are a troll or you really think eth or any eth related can actually compete with bitcoin?


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: oceanriver on August 01, 2016, 06:06:43 PM
thats right, im also buying etc right now and i am going to hold it for a really long time right now for profit


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: chesthing on August 01, 2016, 06:27:00 PM
I suspected at the time of the DAO hack btc whales were behind it, and now I suspect the same are pumping ETC so they can make a fortune dumping all those stolen coins. I could be wrong though, it could be a much larger conspiracy involving ETH whales - anything is possible in crypto. The only thing that seems pretty clear to me now is buying ETC is playing russian roulette - the sledgehammer could fall anytime.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: ashkanb on August 01, 2016, 06:34:53 PM
out of the $10bil btc market cap only $175mil are the whales?! you kidding, right?!

as you put it then, the btc price is being held hostage in eth-etc war!
then i guess eth as a whole is actually competing btc after all!!!
(i dont agree tho & dont think current btc price dip has anything to do with eth/etc, at all!)

lastly "Bailoutcoin chain" ,as it stands, has a better chance of survivability long term;
firstly its tech still has corporate sponsors (whether people like it or not),
secondly the legacy chain is flawed & riddled with bugs, as everyone knows it at this point, it's prone to abuse,
& one way or the other the fact that the hf chain & its community is open to evolving & the legacy chain is not... you know... Darwinism, the survival of the most adaptable & so on...

i'm neither invested in immutability nor i'm financially invested in bailouts so i'm mostly an observer & time will tell how all this will unfold;
we'll all be here with our bucket of popcorn on the side, enjoying the show, as well.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on August 01, 2016, 07:18:43 PM
out of the $10bil btc market cap only $175mil are the whales?! you kidding, right?!

as you put it then, the btc price is being held hostage in eth-etc war!
then i guess eth as a whole is actually competing btc after all!!!
(i dont agree tho & dont think current btc price dip has anything to do with eth/etc, at all!)

lastly "Bailoutcoin chain" ,as it stands, has a better chance of survivability long term;
firstly its tech still has corporate sponsors (whether people like it or not),
secondly the legacy chain is flawed & riddled with bugs, as everyone knows it at this point, it's prone to abuse,
& one way or the other the fact that the hf chain & its community is open to evolving & the legacy chain is not... you know... Darwinism, the survival of the most adaptable & so on...

i'm neither invested in immutability nor i'm financially invested in bailouts so i'm mostly an observer & time will tell how all this will unfold;
we'll all be here with our bucket of popcorn on the side, enjoying the show, as well.

Wait, I'm pretty sure the fork (ETH) is identical to ETC except that the (rightfully) stolen DAO funds were returned. The fork wasn't because of the ETH code, but because those who have a vested interest in ETH and the DAO wanted their money back, so pushed the fork through with a minority vote. So basically, the bugs that ETH had (ETC now) ETH now also has. Please post some sources if I am wrong about this.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Alley on August 01, 2016, 07:59:13 PM
If whales are in etc why is the market cap so low?


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Febo on August 01, 2016, 08:53:21 PM
If whales are in etc why is the market cap so low?

It is not low. Is totally appropriate.   What i notice is that ETH market cap is way to high.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: RKS on August 01, 2016, 09:03:00 PM
I wish I had a crystal ball...I would love to know how this mess unfolds. Funny thing is, most people writing in are either trying to pump ETC or dis it and discredit it but its still here. I agree it is totally risky to go all in! No one knows if the hammer will fall or it will take off. And everyone one seems to justify it one way or the other.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Febo on August 01, 2016, 09:16:36 PM
I wish I had a crystal ball...I would love to know how this mess unfolds. Funny thing is, most people writing in are either trying to pump ETC or dis it and discredit it but its still here. I agree it is totally risky to go all in! No one knows if the hammer will fall or it will take off. And everyone one seems to justify it one way or the other.

There is 82 millions ETC and there is 82 millions ETH. And both are pumping them out and will never stop.   

So think how much will be worth eventually :P


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Spoetnik on August 01, 2016, 09:20:52 PM
@OP
Well if that is true ? ..then it's settled !
That is all it really takes.. once that happens all the others will follow suite.
Game Over Ethereum .

@Febo
According to 1 guy here recently $50 soon..
And the infamous Fraudster here Minecache said $100 within 12 months
Both said that AFTER the DAO drama too.

These mETH heads are REALLY THAT dumb.  :D


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: solid12345 on August 01, 2016, 09:30:54 PM
I suspected at the time of the DAO hack btc whales were behind it, and now I suspect the same are pumping ETC so they can make a fortune dumping all those stolen coins. I could be wrong though, it could be a much larger conspiracy involving ETH whales - anything is possible in crypto. The only thing that seems pretty clear to me now is buying ETC is playing russian roulette - the sledgehammer could fall anytime.

Honestly I think it being a conspiracy is a bit far-fetched, it's one thing to hack the DAO and short ETH but to assume the dominos would fall toward a hard fork and an exchange like poloniex having the radical idea to list the pre-fork chain as an asset and then plan to pump that, it all sounds too convoluted.  I think Occam's razor suggest it's a black swan event, nothing more.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Minecache on August 01, 2016, 11:08:47 PM
The largest whale in the ETC criminals coin is the original DAO attacker with over 10% total ETC supply. Expect they will cash out soon enough after all the sheeple have filled their bags.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: pereira4 on August 01, 2016, 11:12:37 PM
The largest whale in the ETC criminals coin is the original DAO attacker with over 10% total ETC supply. Expect they will cash out soon enough after all the sheeple have filled their bags.
Im sorry that you are still bagholding ETH buy OP is right. ETC is being the hedge to be at while BTC goes throughout this downtrend. Everyone should be getting on ETC as it depredates all of ETH's bailoutcoin.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Minecache on August 01, 2016, 11:14:58 PM
The largest whale in the ETC criminals coin is the original DAO attacker with over 10% total ETC supply. Expect they will cash out soon enough after all the sheeple have filled their bags.
Im sorry that you are still bagholding ETH buy OP is right. ETC is being the hedge to be at while BTC goes throughout this downtrend. Everyone should be getting on ETC as it depredates all of ETH's bailoutcoin.
No need to be sorry as I hold equal amounts ETH and ETC. I just wouldn't buy/support a criminal shitcoinage like ETC.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: pereira4 on August 01, 2016, 11:17:18 PM
The largest whale in the ETC criminals coin is the original DAO attacker with over 10% total ETC supply. Expect they will cash out soon enough after all the sheeple have filled their bags.
Im sorry that you are still bagholding ETH buy OP is right. ETC is being the hedge to be at while BTC goes throughout this downtrend. Everyone should be getting on ETC as it depredates all of ETH's bailoutcoin.
No need to be sorry as I hold equal amounts ETH and ETC. I just wouldn't buy/support a criminal shitcoinage like ETC.

Wrong. The criminals are the ones in bailoutcoin that promise an immutable smart contracts blockchain but end up making a bailout to save the idiots invested in the DAO. If there were not whales invested in the DAO they would have never done a fork to save the modest investor. You are in denial. The "hacker" executed code as programmed, thats the point of smart contracts. It's the coder's fault for creating a faulty smart contract.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Minecache on August 01, 2016, 11:29:51 PM
The largest whale in the ETC criminals coin is the original DAO attacker with over 10% total ETC supply. Expect they will cash out soon enough after all the sheeple have filled their bags.
Im sorry that you are still bagholding ETH buy OP is right. ETC is being the hedge to be at while BTC goes throughout this downtrend. Everyone should be getting on ETC as it depredates all of ETH's bailoutcoin.
No need to be sorry as I hold equal amounts ETH and ETC. I just wouldn't buy/support a criminal shitcoinage like ETC.

Wrong. The criminals are the ones in bailoutcoin that promise an immutable smart contracts blockchain but end up making a bailout to save the idiots invested in the DAO. If there were not whales invested in the DAO they would have never done a fork to save the modest investor. You are in denial. The "hacker" executed code as programmed, thats the point of smart contracts. It's the coder's fault for creating a faulty smart contract.
oh yes hiding behind your immutability FUD to desperately try to justify daylight theft. The attacker is a criminal and ETC is nothing more than the criminal supporters coin. Lovely character ain't you. No wonder this worlds screwed with Spoetniktards of your ilk breathing. If he's not a criminal then where is he? Why doesn't he reveal himself? Why isn't he taking legal action that he threatened. I'll tell you why because he knows he's nothing more than a gud for nothing dirty thief. Looking forward to the day he dumps on you all. And he will for sure, because there is zero honour among thieves.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: bbc.reporter on August 02, 2016, 12:57:31 AM
BTC whales are in ETC fighting against the ETH blockchain. We will win and we will make some money doing it. Come support ETC to take over ETH. Bailoutcoin chain must not survive. Once ETC is stablished as the only Ethereum BTC price will continue climbing.

No. There are no "whales" buying ETC. There is support in the original Ethereum classic from the who's who of bitcoin but it is only up to the extent that they support immutability. The people that are buying ETC are the same people who are trading ETH. They are using ETC as a safety net.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Puffy23 on August 02, 2016, 01:35:22 AM
The largest whale in the ETC criminals coin is the original DAO attacker with over 10% total ETC supply. Expect they will cash out soon enough after all the sheeple have filled their bags.
Im sorry that you are still bagholding ETH buy OP is right. ETC is being the hedge to be at while BTC goes throughout this downtrend. Everyone should be getting on ETC as it depredates all of ETH's bailoutcoin.
No need to be sorry as I hold equal amounts ETH and ETC. I just wouldn't buy/support a criminal shitcoinage like ETC.

Wrong. The criminals are the ones in bailoutcoin that promise an immutable smart contracts blockchain but end up making a bailout to save the idiots invested in the DAO. If there were not whales invested in the DAO they would have never done a fork to save the modest investor. You are in denial. The "hacker" executed code as programmed, thats the point of smart contracts. It's the coder's fault for creating a faulty smart contract.
oh yes hiding behind your immutability FUD to desperately try to justify daylight theft. The attacker is a criminal and ETC is nothing more than the criminal supporters coin. Lovely character ain't you. No wonder this worlds screwed with Spoetniktards of your ilk breathing. If he's not a criminal then where is he? Why doesn't he reveal himself? Why isn't he taking legal action that he threatened. I'll tell you why because he knows he's nothing more than a gud for nothing dirty thief. Looking forward to the day he dumps on you all. And he will for sure, because there is zero honour among thieves.

You can support ETC without agreeing with the actions of the thief. Forking your block chain to bailout investors is just as, if not more, unethetical than theft.

If I put millions in an uninsured bank that got robbed I wouldn't expect the government to print dollar2.0 to foil the thief. I would kick myself in the ass for being an idiot.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Mzie on August 02, 2016, 11:07:53 AM
what do you mean "we will win" are you the owner of ETC?


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: Superways on August 02, 2016, 09:14:04 PM
No one is going to be in ETC, only those people are investing and trying to pump it who already have their capital in theer , they only pump it in order to get their money with a profit from there and after that they will leave it and the price will once again drop down, so do not go to there if you do not want to take the risk and if you do not afford to lose at there. Just stay with bitcoin.


Title: Re: All the whales are in ETC now
Post by: bbc.reporter on August 06, 2016, 04:59:18 AM
The ones getting in are the traders. They make mini pumps and dumps and take advantage of the volatility to buy low and sell high. This is very hard to do and surely most of them playing the market will lose or will only make small profit. There will be a very few who will make big money. I suspect the people who already made big money are probably out of ETC now.