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xaurum and sia sound kind of useful/unique to me but I still don't know if I trust them...my research in altcoins has been slow, boring and frustrating, and I was wondering does anyone have any words to offer on altcoins that actually have useful, unique features and seem to be somewhat trustworthy.

There are coins with solid devs but the problem is that no one really cares about that. They're all out for a pump.

And it's extremely hard to separate the truth from the lies.

I'd say litecoin is the least disgusting coin but it's not going places right now.

Unique features? Nope. But I'm a little skeptical when a dev tells us their coin's gonna change the world.

Something might work fine in a lab and be a total disaster in practise.

What's your opinion of maidsafe and its safecoin? honest question

Good point, but most of these coins are disasters in the lab and everywhere else.   The older ones like ltc, doge, and dash--I'd say they're not shitcoins, but everyone here is going to have a different opinion,  and there isn't a consensus.   So I don't think OP is really going to get a good answer.   I think he's going to have to figure it out himself.  Most of the altcoin scene is total garbage and I can't see the vast majority of coins lasting more than a few years.

Only some of them, I suppose.

Figuring it out yourself is very hard unless you're a coding god and psychic at the same time. It's a real shame the alt scene has so massively screwed itself but I guess it's inevitable.

Maybe there should be a mutually agreed upon weekly alt stress test or something where people do their best to hammer them, but I guess that'll be just as corrupt as everything else.

and this thread's gonna degenerate into a list of everyone's bagholdings so it's probably best to lock it now.

STRATIS and OPAIR

I think Dash shows a lot of promise and has a solid feature set both currently and in the works.

Pablo.

ADZcoin is in my opinion one of the best coins to raise in value check out the project here

www.adzcoindesk.com

Try to  use a free website to see all top 100 altcoin to choose try coinmarketcap and choose top 20 altcoin those altcoin are legit for me.
Just try to choose top 10 or choose what you want in top 20 those are not shitcoins..

If any of these new altcoins has been able to beat the hegemony of bitcoin during all these years of intensive development of advanced cryptocurrencies, I don't know why it would be recommendable to hold them when we can get the strongest one: the Bitcoin.

They are in tight competition with Vcash. ;)

In my opinion alt coins who has fungtion is ripple and The price is stable, has big volume too. And for altcoins who has innovation is ethereum classic, it has big volume trading too. But they are instrument of Investment so make sure make Investment with you can lost it.

Yep, I just posted one here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1585215.0

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No.

Why is that my vote ?

Adoption.. which Altcoin has reached parity or exceeded Bitcoins level of real adoption ?

NONE.

The reason is people don't care about understanding money while the current fiat system kind of mostly works for them. Bitcoin adoption is a drop in the bucket of trillions of daily financial transactions. Bitcoin absorbed a good part of the geeks of the world who have some understanding of the nature of money. Normal people haven't adopted it and are happy paying $25 fees to wire their money by bank transfers. Geeks who don't have understanding of the nature of money are normal people, paying $25 for bank wires.
Here is the math.
0.01% of all geeks of the world understand the nature of money as it's applied in Bitcoin.
0.001% of normal people understand the nature of money.
Adoption is zilch. Bitcoin, not Bitcoin, regardless.

Essentially, how's that different for bitcoin (except maybe that one is expecting the "pump" to be "moon" "in a few years") ?

In as much as there are pump-and-dump altcoins, there are a few that try to solve fundamental problems with bitcoin.

For me, the most fundamental problem in bitcoin is the transparency, and hence I think that coins like dash, but especially, monero, have something valuable.  I'm not a monero shill, and it is not monero itself that is important.  It is because it is based on cryptonote, which itself is based upon ring signatures, the technology that is missing from bitcoin.  If I'm reluctant to use bitcoin (although I do, a little bit), it is its traceability.  Bitcoin is essentially like having your bank account and transactions on a public web site.  The pseudo anonymity of addresses which Satoshi proposed, essentially failed because of the networking effect.

As we can see with ethereum, the fork, and the stopping by exchanges of the ETC the "white hats" tried to exchange, we see the problem with this, and the problem with the non-fungible nature of traceable coins.  Even though this is now done "for morality", soon, when states will mix in, the traceability and the colouring of coins will be worse than with banking.  A thieves/fiscal inspection with bitcoin or any other traceable coin will be worse than with banking.  You will even have to justify the $500,- you got from your aunt on your anniversary.   You will have to justify *everything*.  Power over you will be total with traceable crypto.  And if ever you do something "wrong", your coins will be coloured, no merchant or institution will be able to accept them, you won't even be able to buy some bread with it.

Anonymity is the totally overlooked aspect of crypto, and this is why I think that altcoins like dash, and much more so, like monero, are important, even if they are left aside by most gamblers (private and institutional) that pump the market cap of crypto.

There are just few real legit coins.

but then everyone is trying to own a coin these days, just look at the Announcement section and you'll see the list of ICO from coins of same concept. They're all shit but still get hundreds of investors depositing their BTC. Owning a coin is one of the best business these days.  I could create one later to secure my future.


OPIAR is the shittest among if there's such word.

I've been investing in Alt coins more than BTC, I like the volatility of the coins. I also like to invest in ones that have unique features and active developers and community.
My favourite is Magi (XMG), it is unique due to its mining algorithm - it is purely CPU based and generates more coins when less energy is being generated to produce the coin. I really like the supply and demand economics of the coin - as it gets more popular it becomes more difficult to mine - genius idea. (Difficulty increases at hash rate decreases), coin has had a lot of market action recently.

STRATIS is a good one, but OPAIR is a bad one. I see some people accused OPAIR is a scam, and after I research on this coin, I think the accusation is very possible

I don't care why.. they are not.

@OP
"useful" ?
There is one use for a currency.. using it.
Bitcoin can barely manage this let alone any altcoin that ever existed.

You are all delusional money grubbing greedy shit talking profiteers.
All you guys do is loiter around here year round spinning bullshit for bucks $$$
If you spent half the effort here defending shitcoins as you did on getting real adoption maybe some of this scammy bullshit would mean something.

Today's Flavor..

Coin #3,456 = Facade Coin
Tag line = "One day!"
Status = Currently traded on Poloniex (Centralized Exchange) for Bitcoin profits.
Distribution = ICO (requires getting FIAT to buy a currency that is designed to REPLACE fiat money)
Rating = Coin #3,456
Popularity = Currently being Pumped and hyped by criminals, liars and fraudsters on a scam forum.
Market Cap = Heavily Manipulated by scammers who made a shit-ton of money on their previous scam coin.

ALTCOINS  :D

Monero and litecoin is not shitcoin for the time being.  I am not sure about the Ethereum. If one of them does not exist, it is a good coin.

It ain't. But while you're waiting for the pump, which may never come at this rate, at least you can spend it and use it. you can also count on there not being a dev waiting to exit scam or carry out the dump from hell. bitcoin's setup is a long way from ideal but at least there are a few checks and balances.

there are only a couple of coins that start as shitcoins even from the beginning of the launch but I can say this with confidence that apart from those few coins no other coins "start" as a shitcoin but most of them (more than 90%) will turn into a shitcoin after a while because the developer couldn't make enough money out of it or they just give up because of the dumps and many other reasons.

so the only solution for us is to stick to bitcoin, and 2-3 of the old altcoins and look at all the new ones as a temporary investment to make a quick money.

I don't buy that. there are tons that are out and out scams from the start. they might offer up something that works but that's only to con more money out of people. all this ico crap is very hard to resist considering how stupid and greedy a lot of people on here are.

I'm making 2200 usd a month after electric with 3300 mh of scrypt with LTC ...so I'd not lump that into your category :)

That is right. There are two block chains of the Ethereum and one hashing rate is just 15% of the other, that one could be attacked.

Not sure about ETH ?

Which part ?

How about the part where he wound up somehow getting around 10 million dollars in coins.
then how he admitted to dumping his holdings on you all.
About a million dollars worth (he admitted to)

What part of that were you not sure on ?

You all would not know a scam even if your pockets were empty (of FIAT)
and all you had was a wallet full of of delisted "coins". ROFL

Faircoin is a strong choice, given its crew as well as the userbase and merchants that use it.

It's not that alts are bad, it's that the motivation behind making altcoins these days is for a profit vehicle, not to bring innovation to the space. Some of the functionality proposed.by new coins is amazing. But, we never get to see it because said innovative coin usually goes down in a blaze of scam 6 months after launch.

This coin I will vouch for Factum. The only coin with know media hype behind and is delivering on her promises. Just wait and see

ETH have millions USD in background and if the price will go up, you can make good profit. Plus you can also try ETH mining. Regarding others altcoins - currently only Doge is more or less popular.  ;)

The more the merrier. May the best one win.

I love your criteria here with all the replies..

It's like being asked what hockey player do you want on your team ?
And you pick Jim Slockney because... he has a wicked beard bro !

..rather than looking at his abilities or physical build etc.

Oh he was on the LA Kings so we'll take 'em.
Why ? I don't know.. if LA wanted him we want him.

Just a shit-fuck-ton o' broken logic round these parts  :D

Coin submission #3,201 ?
Is it legit ? Fair ?
What does it offer over Bitcoin ?
Can it compete with Bitcoin ?
Want kind of real adoption does it have ?
Who made it and are they honest ?
How old is the coin ?
Is the coin legal ?
What other coins have the dev's made ?
How much were the dev's paid ?
Was the market cap manipulated ?
How is the coins security track record ?
How many coins in total are there ?
Is it an ICO coin ?
Is the coin premined ?
What kind of long range plans does it have ?
What level of world adoption has it achieved or hopes to achieve ?

ya but but but Speotnik i madez liek 1.2 BTC's profiTz on Poloniex man liekomgbbq HOLyfUCK yo !!!!111

I think it is good for the Vitalik to dump the ETC to the people who want to support the ETC so the overhang is cleared.

Wow. I'm surprised it's still that profitable

Catch is you have to have the machines....and that is kinda just dumb luck an a unicorn hunt.....I make no claim on know wth I'm doing.

Then again if you do have the luck since 2013 and 1.30 LTC being stubborn and holding it has worked well in the past.

What the heck I coulda got a Bass boat and it probably would have sunk anyway. Dumber things to spend my money on :)

but again mostly luck an NO new large scrypt miners for last 2 plus years from anyone besides knc in 2014 or so

Holding the LTC from that time is not as good as hold other coins such as Dash or Monero. The better recent coin is the ETH.

yeah, i really like stratis, in my opinion it might have a huge potential in the future, i make profit while trading it

Don't disagree but locked into equipment scrypt and roi'd a while back before those coins existed. Like surfing a wave and a better wave comes along. Sorta have to go with the wave I started as long as it has not played out yet 😄

Already in Roi mode is key

There are coins better than btc. They have more features, etc. But the truth is that 99% of people don't need that features. So, some other coin can surpass bitcoin only if something very bad will happen to btc.

I agree, I can't see another Alt coin taking over bitcoin either, BTC is very popular. It could happen in the future if bitcoin cannot cope with transaction volumes and another other coin whose popularity is also high is much better at handling the volume. I guess that's a challenge for the bitcoin core team.

Eth, ltc, dash, doge, stratis, lisk, xem are not shitcoins, they are legit one with real development and solid teams. They are long term holding coins.

From that list, I think the ETH, LTC an Monero are good coins with active developments with the exception of litecoin.

Monero is not a scam coin ;D




ETH is falling off the radar.





Nothing bad is going to happen to bitcoins. Any altcoin that wants to rise must work hard to create a niche for itself in the crypto-world.

YOVI looks like an interesting coin, its in a rise only market - meaning you can only sell for more than the greatest sell order so far. Seems like an interesting concept, I guess there will be interest in the coin for as long as people want to buy it, but as soon as people stop buying nobody will be able to sell, volume seems pretty stable - the coin seems similar to a Ponzi scheme. I've bought a couple as a little gamble to see if it pays off.

Yeah, it should be something like that. Dash and Monero are good candidates to be number two. ETH is a special case because its main features too complicated for ordinary customers but can be useful for businesses, so in my opinion it's b2b coin.

Sounds like a scam. Where can I find coin specification and source code?

though i think that its price might be dropping at a very rapid pace in the future either, though i hope that it will go up soon

The specification is here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108063.0 not sure if the source is available - I think the coin is only tradable on Yobit as its their own coin which is probably why they force the raise only. I'm only putting in a few sig campaign earnings just to see if anything comes of it =)

if you want to invest in smart contact tech look at Bitbay! Its the only TRUE decentralised marketplace and yet because all  their money it spent in development work it hasnt been marketed at all (hence the lowish price) Its also developing the first rolling peg system similar to what banks use  and will revolutionise cryto

There is Litecoin, it is an altcoin with potential, steady price and it is not a dump coin like other coins. I would not know about any other alternative cryptocurrency, Litecoin looks like the best one for now. You could also try DASH or LISK but I am not too sure. Xaurum is also a good coin and powered with gold, I kinda like it.

Litecoin is quite good. It is fairly stable. But I prefer Ethereum. It is quite undervalued due to the DAO hack. I think the price will rise a lot soon.

Litecoin and Monero are the only two good ones.

Looks like there is a maximum amount per sell, meaning that you have to tack your sell to the back of the queue - didn't realise that before - it is a ponzi. Glad I didn't buy many

Well i think ethereum and dash is a good coin eventhough still cant be compared to bitcoin, in this few years dash price is constantly rising and ethereum also show a promising development, but still long way to be as famous as bitcoin and as valuable as bitcoin

I calculated it'll take a couple months to sell at 20% profit - Assuming people keep buying at the current rate.

ADZcoin has great potential in rising it`s value soon  ;)

There are tons of real coins. what you gotta do though is that don't invest on ICO, you'd rather just play along and buy these coins when it hit the exchange of a day or two the value of these coins will drop significantly due to dumpers and that's when you get to strike. Now its up to you to kep trading it or keep the coins in hope that it will rise. but certainly Adzcoin isn't one.


Its a scam. no one ever think its can go up in the future with all its team member having a background of being a scam. proof? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1590725.msg15983803#msg15983803

So, it's a closed source coin which traded only on one small exchange, isn't it?

It seems so, there are reports that it is also on cryptopia but cant be transferred back to yobit. Doesn't look like I'm going to lose my investment as there are still a lot of buys - should take about 20% back after a few weeks at current rate. Dont think I'll invest any more though.

If it is so, I shall not buy any coin. Closed source means we do not know the features of the coin from inside.