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Title: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: btctradings on August 15, 2016, 06:18:34 PM
I am a private trader and I started using spectrocoin.com as a tool for receiving bitcoins via API. My clients were transferring bitcoins to me, which were then accumulated at Spectrocoin e-wallet.

One day it was time to take this money and send bitcoins to broker’s website to initiate trading procedure. I received destination BTC address and I sent requested amount using Spectrocoin’s transfer form. After that I resumed using Spectrocoin for receiving bitcoins via API.
2 days later I discovered that broker did not receive these funds at all and his e-wallet balance is still zero. Destination BTC wallet is still empty, anyone can check it here: https://blockchain.info/address/1NgLZiV4fYAbiTjGXSrH8G1WDTyPkXuLtA (https://blockchain.info/address/1NgLZiV4fYAbiTjGXSrH8G1WDTyPkXuLtA)

I rushed to Spectrocoin website, logged into my account and checked transactions history. It was stated there that transfer of 64 BTC was completed and I even got charged for that a fee.
My account video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4osl7a
fake 64 BTC transfer + fee:
http://image.prntscr.com/image/653b0d9602f34a8faf6349f77c4fcd4f.png
64 BTC status "processed" but recipient wallet is empty:
http://image.prntscr.com/image/507d75bb681e496fb3f3162de16f6505.png

In other words, Spectrocoin faked a transfer to BTC address of my broker, did not inform me of that and kept getting funds in normal mode.
My account balance was funded with 24 BTC more before I discovered this fake transaction. Of course, I decided to withdraw this money, but once I tried it, withdraw page got locked and I got a message that claimed that I need to get my account verified.
Since Spectrocoin still has my 88 BTC, which is a large amount, and this situation really started get fishy, I decided to capture video of my account with this fake transaction, just in case, you know. And my intuition did not deceive me: 2 hours later I tried to log into my account, and I failed to do this. All I got was this message: “User account is locked. Please contact administration.”

I tried contacting Spectrocoin operators via live chat and Skype. Once I start a conversation, their operators ask my username and when I tell them, they do not reply back. My access to ticket support service was blocked and my emails were left unanswered.
Email: http://image.prntscr.com/image/87fae1bf1c9d463b8747468013d24faf.png
Skype: http://image.prntscr.com/image/c5f972a91c024db9803d5786968ed0be.png
Online chat: http://image.prntscr.com/image/40c0bcb9b8fb42bf9dea0448cd1b61b8.png
Ticket service: http://image.prntscr.com/image/f21afc4149f549d79742584d9931b119.png

I suppose it means that Spectrocoin.com unabashedly fakes money transfers and steals funds of their customers.

I called by the phone to Spectrocoin office few times. After fourth call, my account was unblocked. I rushed into my account and started capturing video. My balance was zero, 24 BTC that were remaining since my last visit have gone, literally disappeared.
http://image.prntscr.com/image/ac3a507bb3cf4f899674202cbd07a39b.png
I barely managed to log into my account and capture a new video, and then account was blocked again.

 I continued calling to Spectrocoin office, operators even started to recognize me, they ask me to contact their Support center via email, since they cannot help me.
After that my phone number is added to blacklist, as they do not respond to my repeated calls from that number and I have to use another phone number which later gets into blacklist too and the situation repeats time after time.

Spectrocoin Co-Founder VYTAUTAS KARALEVIČIUS  visits Bitcointalk.org forum every day, but avoids contacting me and does nothing to return me my money.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577176.msg15860288#msg15860288

My money are in possession of Spectrocoin for more than 1.5 month. In the meantime, BTC exchange rate significantly dropped down. I was supposed to sell bitcoins, now buy them again and earn ~$10000. I assume Spectrocoin administration did the same.

I am ready to provide to Bitcointalk.org moderators or any authorized officials all the evidence I have to confirm the information stated above, including video captured before account was blocked, all records of my phone calls made to Spectrocoin office, screenshots and other data.

I am calling out a Spectrocoin representative for a public discussion so he could explain this undue behavior. I demand paying me back my 90+ BTC and 15 BTC more as a recompense of the profits lost through the fault of irresponsible actions of Spectrocoin administration.


Spectrocoin main topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577176.100
Spectrocoin debit cards topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1037139.0


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: suchmoon on August 15, 2016, 08:09:20 PM
I am a private trader and I started using spectrocoin.com as a tool for receiving bitcoins via API. My clients were transferring bitcoins to me, which were then accumulated at Spectrocoin e-wallet.

One day it was time to take this money and send bitcoins to broker’s website to initiate trading procedure. I received destination BTC address and I sent requested amount using Spectrocoin’s transfer form. After that I resumed using Spectrocoin for receiving bitcoins via API.
2 days later I discovered that broker did not receive these funds at all and his e-wallet balance is still zero. Destination BTC wallet is still empty, anyone can check it here: https://blockchain.info/address/1NgLZiV4fYAbiTjGXSrH8G1WDTyPkXuLtA (https://blockchain.info/address/1NgLZiV4fYAbiTjGXSrH8G1WDTyPkXuLtA)

I rushed to Spectrocoin website, logged into my account and checked transactions history. It was stated there that transfer of 64 BTC was completed and I even got charged for that a fee.
My account video: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4osl7a
fake 64 BTC transfer + fee:
http://image.prntscr.com/image/653b0d9602f34a8faf6349f77c4fcd4f.png
64 BTC status "processed" but recipient wallet is empty:
http://image.prntscr.com/image/507d75bb681e496fb3f3162de16f6505.png

In other words, Spectrocoin faked a transfer to BTC address of my broker, did not inform me of that and kept getting funds in normal mode.
My account balance was funded with 24 BTC more before I discovered this fake transaction. Of course, I decided to withdraw this money, but once I tried it, withdraw page got locked and I got a message that claimed that I need to get my account verified.
Since Spectrocoin still has my 88 BTC, which is a large amount, and this situation really started get fishy, I decided to capture video of my account with this fake transaction, just in case, you know. And my intuition did not deceive me: 2 hours later I tried to log into my account, and I failed to do this. All I got was this message: “User account is locked. Please contact administration.”

I tried contacting Spectrocoin operators via live chat and Skype. Once I start a conversation, their operators ask my username and when I tell them, they do not reply back. My access to ticket support service was blocked and my emails were left unanswered.
Email: http://image.prntscr.com/image/87fae1bf1c9d463b8747468013d24faf.png
Skype: http://image.prntscr.com/image/c5f972a91c024db9803d5786968ed0be.png
Online chat: http://image.prntscr.com/image/40c0bcb9b8fb42bf9dea0448cd1b61b8.png
Ticket service: http://image.prntscr.com/image/f21afc4149f549d79742584d9931b119.png

I suppose it means that Spectrocoin.com unabashedly fakes money transfers and steals funds of their customers.

I called by the phone to Spectrocoin office few times. After fourth call, my account was unblocked. I rushed into my account and started capturing video. My balance was zero, 24 BTC that were remaining since my last visit have gone, literally disappeared.
http://image.prntscr.com/image/ac3a507bb3cf4f899674202cbd07a39b.png
I barely managed to log into my account and capture a new video, and then account was blocked again.

 I continued calling to Spectrocoin office, operators even started to recognize me, they ask me to contact their Support center via email, since they cannot help me.
After that my phone number is added to blacklist, as they do not respond to my repeated calls from that number and I have to use another phone number which later gets into blacklist too and the situation repeats time after time.

Spectrocoin Co-Founder VYTAUTAS KARALEVIČIUS  visits Bitcointalk.org forum every day, but avoids contacting me and does nothing to return me my money.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577176.msg15860288#msg15860288

My money are in possession of Spectrocoin for more than 1.5 month. In the meantime, BTC exchange rate significantly dropped down. I was supposed to sell bitcoins, now buy them again and earn ~$10000. I assume Spectrocoin administration did the same.

I am ready to provide to Bitcointalk.org moderators or any authorized officials all the evidence I have to confirm the information stated above, including video captured before account was blocked, all records of my phone calls made to Spectrocoin office, screenshots and other data.

I am calling out a Spectrocoin representative for a public discussion so he could explain this undue behavior. I demand paying me back my 90+ BTC and 15 BTC more as a recompense of the profits lost through the fault of irresponsible actions of Spectrocoin administration.


Spectrocoin main topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577176.100
Spectrocoin debit cards topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1037139.0


Did Spectrocoin provide a TX ID for the 64 BTC transfer? Do they ever provide any TX IDs for outgoing transfers?

How exactly did the remaining 24 BTC disappear - did they remove deposit TXs, or did they just adjust the balance? (making the balance out of sync with the TX history)

Never heard of Spectrocoin before so not sure what to think of this.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: VytautasK on August 15, 2016, 08:34:52 PM
Account has been locked by compliance department due to fraud investigation and breach of Terms and Conditions. Client has also provided fake IDs. More information can be provided to moderators.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: suchmoon on August 15, 2016, 08:46:54 PM
Account has been locked by compliance department due to fraud investigation and breach of Terms and Conditions. Client has also provided fake IDs. More information can be provided to moderators.

How about those missing 64 BTC and 24 BTC? Locking the account is one thing but disappearing customer funds is quite different.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: VytautasK on August 15, 2016, 09:16:16 PM
Account has been locked by compliance department due to fraud investigation and breach of Terms and Conditions. Client has also provided fake IDs. More information can be provided to moderators.

How about those missing 64 BTC and 24 BTC? Locking the account is one thing but disappearing customer funds is quite different.
I have not analyzed this particular account in deep, but I know that there is an investigation related to a fraudulent activity of this account and I cannot comment about this issue during the investigation. However, I will discuss this issue with our compliance department.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: malcovixeffect on August 16, 2016, 03:08:50 AM
So, what happens to the bitcoins? You keep them?


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: btctradings on August 16, 2016, 02:35:44 PM
Did Spectrocoin provide a TX ID for the 64 BTC transfer? Do they ever provide any TX IDs for outgoing transfers?

How exactly did the remaining 24 BTC disappear - did they remove deposit TXs, or did they just adjust the balance? (making the balance out of sync with the TX history)
suchmoon, here you have a video that I managed to capture while my account was “accidentally” unblocked for a short time after spectrocoin redesign. During the period of blockage money was simply withdrawn (deducted) by spectrocoin staff:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4oz85r

I am not sure whether Spectrocoin provides any TX ID, but history details clearly shows that transaction has been performed and I didn’t receive any message that “Spectrocoin couldn’t transfer funds”. Spectrocoin concealed that the transfer was imitated and resumed receiving money at my account. Which means that Spectrocoin administration expected to collect even more money of my clients, that’s why it kept accepting money in an unilateral manner.

I have not analyzed this particular account in deep, but I know that there is an investigation related to a fraudulent activity of this account and I cannot comment about this issue during the investigation. However, I will discuss this issue with our compliance department.
Since when does bitcoin trading have become an illegal activity? And how could you possibly know what I’m using this money for? I have a long history of trading at bitcoin exchange market, I earned about 200% net profit by playing on BTC exchange rate fluctuations in last 8 months. I can provide forum moderators with all the evidence I have that proves my trading history with BTC broker. My broker account history contains BTC wallet which was indicated as destination wallet for this transaction faked by Spectrocoin.

Mr. VytautasK, obviously it wasn’t enough for spectrocoin to get a transaction fee and you imitated a transfer of 64 BTC and kept this fact in secret, I think this is a clear example of Fraudulent Activity you were talking about:
- In addition to those 64 BTC misappropriated by Spectrocoin, you kept receiving money of my clients without any restricions, obviously in order to misappropriate even more somebody else’s money, this is called a Fraudulent Activity.
- You blocked access to my account so I couldn’t capture videos and was unable to make public evidence of your illegal actions, this is called a Fraudulent Activity.
- You left unanswered all my attempts to find out what was going on. I was ignored at Spectrcoin ticket support, live chat, Skype, email, phone support, this is called a Fraudulent Activity.
- You ignored my posts at bitcointalk.org forum, hoping that no one will learn about your theft, this is called a Fraudulent Activity.

And now you dare to find an excuse in form of your illusive Terms and Conditions, really? Does a misappropriation of your clients’ funds makes part of your Terms and Conditions? It is clearly obvious that you robbed your client and don’t you even try to make up more non-existent arguments.

How can you explain that 3 phone numbers that I used for calling you, were blacklisted?
How can you explain that my messages sent to your Support center were left unanswered? Or do you consider “Unfortunately we can not offer our service to you” as an adequate answer?
How can you explain that my access to Spectrocoin ticket center was blocked?
How can you explain that your live chat and Skype operators left conversations once they learned my username?
Is it normal for a business company to steal $60k USD and then ignore all attempts of its owner to contact you?

It is natural that such shady behavior causes suspicions and only witnesses to your Fraudulent Activity.
All these moments serve as an evidence of the fact that you tried to suppress this situation from getting into public spotlight in order to misappropriate the money. I repeat: it was an illegal action that you misappropriated 90 BTC which costed $60,000.00 USD at that moment. Can you imagine this? $60k USD!!!



So, what happens to the bitcoins? You keep them?
It is clear as a day, the only reason why Spectrocoin imitated this transfer and then blocked my account is easy money made misappropriation of the funds of their clients.
Just think about it: $60,000.00 USD is really a large amount, administrators just couldn’t resist the temptation and decided to misappropriate this money. This the only credible explanation of such inadequate actions. Any other excuses are just pathetic attempts to keep the money.


In the meantime, while we are discussing this situation Spectrcoin can or even does imitate another money transfers and keeps stealing funds of other clients. Until this criminal situation is resolved I ask bitcointalk.org moderators to move all Spectrcoin related discussion threads into “Suspcious companies” list.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: suchmoon on August 16, 2016, 04:52:00 PM
- In addition to those 64 BTC misappropriated by Spectrocoin, you kept receiving money of my clients without any restricions, obviously in order to misappropriate even more somebody else’s money, this is called a Fraudulent Activity.

Are the deposits Bitcoin transactions? They can't stop a blockchain transaction.

In the meantime, while we are discussing this situation Spectrcoin can or even does imitate another money transfers and keeps stealing funds of other clients. Until this criminal situation is resolved I ask bitcointalk.org moderators to move all Spectrcoin related discussion threads into “Suspcious companies” list.

Moderators won't do anything, they don't get involved in trades unless it violates forum posting rules.

The best we can do is tag VytautasK with red trust and I think I'll do that unless he comes up with a really good detailed explanation of what's going on within the next 24 hours. I don't think he needs more time than that to talk to whoever he needs to talk to and sort this out, or at least provide an update.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: btctradings on August 16, 2016, 06:38:48 PM
Are the deposits Bitcoin transactions? They can't stop a blockchain transaction.
suchmoon, Spectrocoin was providing API and was generating BTC addresses for accepting transfers. If they really had no intentions to work with me and accept funds, then they could simply disable an opportunity for generating new BTC addresses. But Spectrocoin kept generating intermediary addresses for accepting transfers even after they faked this transfer of 64 BTC. That is they wanted to continue receiving money of my clients in order to misappropriate them too.
Obviously, if I did not make this case publicly known and if I did not pay attention to this fact, Spectrocoin would have resumed getting those transfers.

There is a brilliant example how similar situations are resolved by other companies. Once I was setting a Blockchain.info API for an online shop of my friend. One day Blockchain operators decided that this e-shop was infringing their Terms of Service. And what did they do?
1. They send a message to this e-shop support center and informed that Blockchain API was disabled and asked to contact their administration.
2. They stopped generating BTC addresses, which caused an impossibility to purchase goods using BTC.
3. They did not fake any transactions and did not block money stored at this account. My friend has withdrawn money from Blockchain e-wallet instantly and without any problems.


Moderators won't do anything, they don't get involved in trades unless it violates forum posting rules.

The best we can do is tag VytautasK with red trust and I think I'll do that unless he comes up with a really good detailed explanation of what's going on within the next 24 hours. I don't think he needs more time than that to talk to whoever he needs to talk to and sort this out, or at least provide an update.
I’m sorry, I am not quite familiar with forum policy. As far as I understand, there are some blacklist sections on this forum where Spectrcoin discussion threads can be moved if the money will not be returned.

To be honest, I am pretty surprised by the fact that Spectrocoin representative has responded in this thread. Well, it is the largest reply I ever got from Spectrocoin officials for the last 1.5 months. Taking into account that Spectrocoin support operators ignored any my attempts to contact them, the fact that VytautasK has joined this discussion does him a credit.

Thanks a lot suchmoon for telling me about red trust thing, I will examine this. 24 hours was enough to resolve this problem exactly when it arose. It’s a pity this situation has dragged on this long.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: jonsi on August 16, 2016, 09:29:15 PM
Account has been locked by compliance department due to fraud investigation and breach of Terms and Conditions. Client has also provided fake IDs. More information can be provided to moderators.

How about those missing 64 BTC and 24 BTC? Locking the account is one thing but disappearing customer funds is quite different.
I have not analyzed this particular account in deep, but I know that there is an investigation related to a fraudulent activity of this account and I cannot comment about this issue during the investigation. However, I will discuss this issue with our compliance department.


If there is fraudulent activity give him his money and terminate his account, don't steal it.

I'll leave neg rep also, if the situation doesn't resolve.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: btctradings on August 17, 2016, 12:43:53 PM
If there is fraudulent activity give him his money and terminate his account, don't steal it.
I'll leave neg rep also, if the situation doesn't resolve.

The longest reply I ever got from Spectrocoin to my email was on July 02: "Unfortunately we can not offer our service to you".
Email: http://image.prntscr.com/image/87fae1bf1c9d463b8747468013d24faf.png

It is clearly obvious that if Spectrocoin cannot provide me its services, they shouldn't worry at all because I will never ever use their service again. Moreover, I will recommend to everyone NOT to use Spectrocoin.

Of course, jonsi, If Spectrocoin cannot provide me its services, then they should return me the money to BTC address of my broker, which was indicated in Spectrocoin account as destination address. After that they can do whatever they want with my Spectrocoin account. An impossibility of offering services just cannot be an excuse for a grand theft of $60,000.00 from my account.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: suchmoon on August 17, 2016, 02:45:53 PM
If there is fraudulent activity give him his money and terminate his account, don't steal it.
I'll leave neg rep also, if the situation doesn't resolve.

The longest reply I ever got from Spectrocoin to my email was on July 02: "Unfortunately we can not offer our service to you".
Email: http://image.prntscr.com/image/87fae1bf1c9d463b8747468013d24faf.png

It is clearly obvious that if Spectrocoin cannot provide me its services, they shouldn't worry at all because I will never ever use their service again. Moreover, I will recommend to everyone NOT to use Spectrocoin.

Of course, jonsi, If Spectrocoin cannot provide me its services, then they should return me the money to BTC address of my broker, which was indicated in Spectrocoin account as destination address. After that they can do whatever they want with my Spectrocoin account. An impossibility of offering services just cannot be an excuse for a grand theft of $60,000.00 from my account.


Do you have TX IDs for the 64 BTC or 24 BTC deposits or at least some part of it? i.e. the coins moving into your Spectrocoin account.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: btctradings on August 17, 2016, 08:37:36 PM
Do you have TX IDs for the 64 BTC or 24 BTC deposits or at least some part of it? i.e. the coins moving into your Spectrocoin account.
suchmoon, there were over 150 transfers made via Spectrocoin API into my account and I'm pretty sure I have TX IDs of almost all of them.

Here you have few examples of transfers over 1 BTC:

2         0743a454540282ae9708910330e513fca065d7af7d6a5ef6443421772cdfb322                  
14       cac9506731cf67a09e36eaa7a0357e9940941a314611095fc62bc6b0b6635cf5                  
1.8      1aa5a32d245c70a371e5cd4fb361b8e2329cbc00ef8fd2f12eeee309e98d9880                  
3.3107 9dea41d6a5c4f08a26e73494c9de9f5b00337e1046864000984300b44b6abff4                  
1        986724e6cc441c54df5e2456e4a3622740a370fd4d9d0877af0776aeecea1ac4                  
1.17    a975bdacd6bcc036ea902d5cd4fd799c694e86509bd5a96f3ddaddcc321b0685                  
2.25    7f9f306966607a455a6220d02f59b0411670959d02ac71e41445a87eec155656                  
1.14    619f1b3e8270d99f268e16d54716f917541268594f72fcaf4ae4eb0017b8c794                  
10       8edae47250eede5186bb015da639e72d108ea8ca19bc077c31c971e6fbadc47c                   


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: suchmoon on August 17, 2016, 09:14:49 PM
Do you have TX IDs for the 64 BTC or 24 BTC deposits or at least some part of it? i.e. the coins moving into your Spectrocoin account.
suchmoon, there were over 150 transfers made via Spectrocoin API into my account and I'm pretty sure I have TX IDs of almost all of them.

Here you have few examples of transfers over 1 BTC:

2         0743a454540282ae9708910330e513fca065d7af7d6a5ef6443421772cdfb322                  
14       cac9506731cf67a09e36eaa7a0357e9940941a314611095fc62bc6b0b6635cf5                  
1.8      1aa5a32d245c70a371e5cd4fb361b8e2329cbc00ef8fd2f12eeee309e98d9880                  
3.3107 9dea41d6a5c4f08a26e73494c9de9f5b00337e1046864000984300b44b6abff4                  
1        986724e6cc441c54df5e2456e4a3622740a370fd4d9d0877af0776aeecea1ac4                  
1.17    a975bdacd6bcc036ea902d5cd4fd799c694e86509bd5a96f3ddaddcc321b0685                  
2.25    7f9f306966607a455a6220d02f59b0411670959d02ac71e41445a87eec155656                  
1.14    619f1b3e8270d99f268e16d54716f917541268594f72fcaf4ae4eb0017b8c794                  
10       8edae47250eede5186bb015da639e72d108ea8ca19bc077c31c971e6fbadc47c                   


Ok, here is what I'm going to do. I posted neg trust for VytautasK. I can't claim that I see indisputable proof of a scam here but the evidence presented by btctradings AND the reaction (or lack of it for the most part) from Spectrocoin raises suspicions.

I had a brief discussion with VytautasK via PM and that left me unconvinced that he's acting in good faith in this debacle. For once, letting this drag on for more than a month and still claiming that this needs to be investigated is borderline ridiculous. He also seems to be flip flopping between "fraud", "technical issue", "fake ID" etc, none of which would justify showing a withdrawal that doesn't exist on the blockchain.

Anyway, I don't want to be in the middle of it, so if VytautasK wants to present some kind of proof for the alleged wrongdoing and explain why the actions they took are justifiable - I'm open to changing my opinion.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: btctradings on August 17, 2016, 11:32:05 PM
I just want to make clear one thing regarding ID.

 About 6 weeks ago Spectrocoin made a fake transfer of 64 BTC and then removed 24+ BTC from balance. Over the course of these ~6 weeks I tried to contact support center without any success, which I mentioned earlier.
 Few days ago Spectrocoin made a website re-design and after that “accidentally” unblocked my account for a few hours. When I tried to withdraw small rest of money from my balance, I got a message informing me that I should provide ID. I fully understood that it was another bureaucratic trick made only for wasting time and most probably it wouldn’t have helped me to return the money, but still I decided to give it a shot and submitted ID.

So, let’s make it clear:
1. Spectrocoin stole my money and blocked my account one month BEFORE I submitted documents. It means that documents cannot serve as a reason for account blockage since Spectrocoin received ID many days AFTER they’ve blocked my account and not before that.
2. Spectrocoin had no intentions to give the money back, they just made up another bureaucratic obstacle in order misappropriate the money.
3. As I expected, submitting the ID didn’t help at all, just the opposite, now VytautasK tries to deceive everyone by telling that ID was the reason for account blockage. It is impossible, considering the chronological order of all events.

And now the most important thing: when Spectrocoin was receiving my bitcoins, they didn’t ask ID. It looks like back then the transfers were purely legal in accordance with their so-called “Terms and Conditions” and Spectrocoin along with its so-called “Compliance Department” were ready to receive money without any limits endlessly!
And when the time has come to withdraw this money, Spectrocoin invented zillions of stupid excuses just to keep the money.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: jonsi on August 18, 2016, 10:23:47 AM
For the moment it seems that Spectrocoin had stolen from his client and have no intention of paying him back. I have left negative thrust rating and I will remove it after the situation is sorted out. Until then I advise every client of Spectrocoin that it is possible to end up in the same situation as the OP.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Bittalker on August 22, 2016, 08:31:30 AM
I agree with the assessment. Also gave negative feedback.

Spectrocoin answer was very damaging to their reputation. They didn't deny the facts or timing.

If they stole the money, the OP had reasons to present them a fake ID, since they were basically blackmailing him to give personal documents: give them or lose your money.

If the OP is responsible for any fraud, once he takes the issue to the community, Spectrocoin has a duty to present evidence to the community or face the consequences on their reputation.

I disagree that they can be accused of any privacy infringement for explaining the reasons. The OP waived privacy about any necessary details (not unnecessary ones, like his identity, fake or not) to explain the freezing by taking the issue public.

If Spectrocoin doesn't present better reasons on a few days, I'll post here steps that the OP can take to burn the rest of Spectrocoin reputation and Spectrocoin owner's reputation.

For start I suggest the OP to change the title to Spectrocoin SCAM/Review for SEO reasons. This is probably already on Google. Anyone searching for reputation on Spectrocoin will find it in a second.

If Spectrocoin presents any evidence/convincing grounds, I'll remove my negative feedback and this post.

Yes it's my first post but I'm not a recent member.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Crystal11 on September 27, 2016, 05:15:44 PM
after some reasearch i've found some complaints also here
https://forum.bitcoin.com/scam-accusations/spectrocoin-scam-of-100-bitcoin-t7310.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l54db/qiwi_romaniaspectrocoin_scam/

however to many complaints won't convince me to ignore them and use spectroin services/ ATMs, i work hard for my bitcoin and i wont allow a scammer to steal my work.
Will blacklist/warn about spectrocoin where or when is needed.
Thank you everyone for posting scam proofs , togheter we fight back to destroy scammers or at least their false bright image.
I have nothing to do with another competing exchanging company but to many conmplaints with proofs can't be ignored.

To the spectrocoin :
If someone has ignored a so called ToS , you should've warn him, give money back and let him go, then close account to 0 , not stealing his money. This is called SCAM. And i don't like scammers .


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: warningsigns on September 29, 2016, 12:56:02 AM
Spectrocoin is a scam. Please do not subscribe to their services. Do not order their debit card.

Victims should collectively gather and warn others on their facebook page:

https://web.facebook.com/spectrocoin/

The people managing Spectrocoin are selective scammers. They will welcome limitless bitcoin deposits but do everything to prevent access to those deposited bitcoins. Again, they are scammers. Conmen. Fraudsters.

This is a Lithuanian-managed company. Most Lithuanians are known for being fraudsters. They and other eastern europeans are all over the news for ATM skimming and other fraud-related activities. They have been arrested here in Asia for manipulating ATMs, most recently:

https://www.finextra.com/newsarticle/29190/arrests-made-in-taiwan-atm-swindle/retail

For the sake of and safety of everyone else, please post on their facebook page to warn others of this fraud.



Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: royalpalm on September 29, 2016, 09:09:56 AM
Spectrocoin is a scam. Please do not subscribe to their services. Do not order their debit card.

Victims should collectively gather and warn others on their facebook page:

https://web.facebook.com/spectrocoin/

The people managing Spectrocoin are selective scammers. They will welcome limitless bitcoin deposits but do everything to prevent access to those deposited bitcoins. Again, they are scammers. Conmen. Fraudsters.

This is a Lithuanian-managed company. Most Lithuanians are known for being fraudsters. They and other eastern europeans are all over the news for ATM skimming and other fraud-related activities. They have been arrested here in Asia for manipulating ATMs, most recently:

https://www.finextra.com/newsarticle/29190/arrests-made-in-taiwan-atm-swindle/retail

For the sake of and safety of everyone else, please post on their facebook page to warn others of this fraud.



These fraudsters in the bitcoin community is cancer to us, we can't tolerate such a scam.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: innominatus on October 22, 2016, 06:10:09 PM
Hi guys. I am lithuanian myself. Tell me how its ended. If they stole that money we can go public with that. I could write an article in lithuanian. Just because i have been scammed for 110€ as well...spectrocoin is death

they paid me that, just a bit late


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: BitBerau on October 22, 2016, 08:07:30 PM
I hope you guys get this sorted. I recommend filing a small claims court complaint.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: VytautasK on October 26, 2016, 12:39:17 PM
To finish this discussion, we want to state the following:

The allegations of us being scam are false and misleading. The guy stating so, is a pure fraud and a scam. To make the story short:
First, the technical issues about which everyone is worried are related to the status “completed” as the transaction has passed the wallet interface, but was stopped before being broadcasted (and the status was not reflected in the user interface). This is was a technical issue, which now has been solved.

Second, there are complaints regarding this client (however we cannot comment more on them due to privacy issues as I have already got a negative feedback for it), hence we will be able to unfreeze the funds either the complaints will be solved or we will receive required documents. On the other hand, this person has only created a forum account to discredit us and has provided fake documents and is only telling a small part of the full story.

One more time, we have more than 100,000 happy clients and we are working hard to expand our services and I believe that an incident with one scammer trying to discredit and blackmail us will be understood as an accident which can happen for everyone. It has taught us a lesson, that in addition to reliable, fast and low-cost services, we have to work even harder to ensure the trust of our clients.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: satmas on October 26, 2016, 12:48:39 PM
The allegations of us being scam are false and misleading. The guy stating so, is a pure fraud and a scam. To make the story short:
First, the technical issues about which everyone is worried are related to the status “completed” as the transaction has passed the wallet interface, but was stopped before being broadcasted (and the status was not reflected in the user interface). This is was a technical issue, which now has been solved.

Second, there are complaints regarding this client (however we cannot comment more on them due to privacy issues as I have already got a negative feedback for it), hence we will be able to unfreeze the funds either the complaints will be solved or we will receive required documents. On the other hand, this person has only created a forum account to discredit us and has provided fake documents and is only telling a small part of the full story.
Why'd you leave for a couple months when this scam accusation was created? Why do you think that you would get negative feedback for offering proofs of complaints? Is there anywhere in the terms and conditions that states you can do this for those exact reasons?


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: VytautasK on October 26, 2016, 12:53:10 PM
The allegations of us being scam are false and misleading. The guy stating so, is a pure fraud and a scam. To make the story short:
First, the technical issues about which everyone is worried are related to the status “completed” as the transaction has passed the wallet interface, but was stopped before being broadcasted (and the status was not reflected in the user interface). This is was a technical issue, which now has been solved.

Second, there are complaints regarding this client (however we cannot comment more on them due to privacy issues as I have already got a negative feedback for it), hence we will be able to unfreeze the funds either the complaints will be solved or we will receive required documents. On the other hand, this person has only created a forum account to discredit us and has provided fake documents and is only telling a small part of the full story.
Why'd you leave for a couple months when this scam accusation was created? Why do you think that you would get negative feedback for offering proofs of complaints? Is there anywhere in the terms and conditions that states you can do this for those exact reasons?
I do not know why, but I got one negative feedback for violating privacy.

We have explained our position immediately after allegations, other discussions were emotions, not fact based, hence we wanted to avoid emotion-based discussions. As the story was this: a new member drops allegations and people who have no information starts to attack us based on emotions.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: DeadBirdzz on October 29, 2016, 12:56:15 PM
Did you return his Bitcoin or did you keep them for yourself Spectro?

That's what we want to know.

Great Location for a virtual Office as well btw

 ;D

Spectro Finance Ltd
2 Lansdowne Row
London W1J 6HL
United Kingdom


http://www.citibox.uk/ (http://www.citibox.uk/)



Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: VytautasK on October 30, 2016, 09:40:56 PM
Did you return his Bitcoin or did you keep them for yourself Spectro?

That's what we want to know.

Great Location for a virtual Office as well btw

 ;D

Spectro Finance Ltd
2 Lansdowne Row
London W1J 6HL
United Kingdom


http://www.citibox.uk/ (http://www.citibox.uk/)



We did not keep funds, they are temporarily suspended until the situation will be solved.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: suchmoon on October 31, 2016, 12:30:36 AM
To finish this discussion, we want to state the following:

The allegations of us being scam are false and misleading. The guy stating so, is a pure fraud and a scam. To make the story short:
First, the technical issues about which everyone is worried are related to the status “completed” as the transaction has passed the wallet interface, but was stopped before being broadcasted (and the status was not reflected in the user interface). This is was a technical issue, which now has been solved.

Second, there are complaints regarding this client (however we cannot comment more on them due to privacy issues as I have already got a negative feedback for it), hence we will be able to unfreeze the funds either the complaints will be solved or we will receive required documents. On the other hand, this person has only created a forum account to discredit us and has provided fake documents and is only telling a small part of the full story.

One more time, we have more than 100,000 happy clients and we are working hard to expand our services and I believe that an incident with one scammer trying to discredit and blackmail us will be understood as an accident which can happen for everyone. It has taught us a lesson, that in addition to reliable, fast and low-cost services, we have to work even harder to ensure the trust of our clients.


You're accusing someone of being a scammer and a blackmailer, yet you refuse to provide any proof because... privacy? Do you really not see how ridiculous that is?

And how much time do you really need to "solve" this?


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: VytautasK on October 31, 2016, 01:01:18 AM
To finish this discussion, we want to state the following:

The allegations of us being scam are false and misleading. The guy stating so, is a pure fraud and a scam. To make the story short:
First, the technical issues about which everyone is worried are related to the status “completed” as the transaction has passed the wallet interface, but was stopped before being broadcasted (and the status was not reflected in the user interface). This is was a technical issue, which now has been solved.

Second, there are complaints regarding this client (however we cannot comment more on them due to privacy issues as I have already got a negative feedback for it), hence we will be able to unfreeze the funds either the complaints will be solved or we will receive required documents. On the other hand, this person has only created a forum account to discredit us and has provided fake documents and is only telling a small part of the full story.

One more time, we have more than 100,000 happy clients and we are working hard to expand our services and I believe that an incident with one scammer trying to discredit and blackmail us will be understood as an accident which can happen for everyone. It has taught us a lesson, that in addition to reliable, fast and low-cost services, we have to work even harder to ensure the trust of our clients.


You're accusing someone of being a scammer and a blackmailer, yet you refuse to provide any proof because... privacy? Do you really not see how ridiculous that is?

And how much time do you really need to "solve" this?

Yes, I see how ridiculous it was for me to get a negative trust due to the fact "that I do not respect privacy".

Either the person who started this thread shows an interest in solving this issue or complaints will be solved and funds will be returned to actual owners.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: satmas on October 31, 2016, 03:36:47 AM
To finish this discussion, we want to state the following:

The allegations of us being scam are false and misleading. The guy stating so, is a pure fraud and a scam. To make the story short:
First, the technical issues about which everyone is worried are related to the status “completed” as the transaction has passed the wallet interface, but was stopped before being broadcasted (and the status was not reflected in the user interface). This is was a technical issue, which now has been solved.

Second, there are complaints regarding this client (however we cannot comment more on them due to privacy issues as I have already got a negative feedback for it), hence we will be able to unfreeze the funds either the complaints will be solved or we will receive required documents. On the other hand, this person has only created a forum account to discredit us and has provided fake documents and is only telling a small part of the full story.

One more time, we have more than 100,000 happy clients and we are working hard to expand our services and I believe that an incident with one scammer trying to discredit and blackmail us will be understood as an accident which can happen for everyone. It has taught us a lesson, that in addition to reliable, fast and low-cost services, we have to work even harder to ensure the trust of our clients.


You're accusing someone of being a scammer and a blackmailer, yet you refuse to provide any proof because... privacy? Do you really not see how ridiculous that is?

And how much time do you really need to "solve" this?

Yes, I see how ridiculous it was for me to get a negative trust due to the fact "that I do not respect privacy".

Either the person who started this thread shows an interest in solving this issue or complaints will be solved and funds will be returned to actual owners.
Dude, check your trust feedback again, it's not a negative, it's a neutral(in case you were referring to Vod's feedback about not respecting privacy), seems like you don't know how the trust ratings work.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Rastaways on November 02, 2016, 03:29:33 PM
Spectrocoin also locking my 100 Bitcoin in their site we need help to get our Bitcoin back


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: VytautasK on November 02, 2016, 03:41:20 PM
Someone really hates us and wants to blackmail us...


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Rastaways on November 02, 2016, 03:57:26 PM
I do not hate spectrocoin if spectrocoin think I'm lying I can drop my email and password on this forum so anyone can go to their website and see my account is locked. I wonder why would someone say lie about company if they are not scammers  this is my email godspowerrasta@yahoo.com and I still have all the email exchange I have with spectrocoin so there is no hate if you are not a fraud or thefts release my 100 Bitcoins in your possession


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Rastaways on November 02, 2016, 04:13:11 PM
Did you return his Bitcoin or did you keep them for yourself Spectro?

That's what we want to know.

Great Location for a virtual Office as well btw

 ;D

Spectro Finance Ltd
2 Lansdowne Row
London W1J 6HL
United Kingdom


http://www.citibox.uk/ (http://www.citibox.uk/)



We did not keep funds, they are temporarily suspended until the situation will be solved.



When will the situation solved if you locked my account that contains 100 Bitcoins then use it for yourself and blocked my email address and blocked chats on their website whenever they see my email address that is fraud


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Rastaways on November 02, 2016, 04:30:26 PM
To finish this discussion, we want to state the following:

The allegations of us being scam are false and misleading. The guy stating so, is a pure fraud and a scam. To make the story short:
First, the technical issues about which everyone is worried are related to the status “completed” as the transaction has passed the wallet interface, but was stopped before being broadcasted (and the status was not reflected in the user interface). This is was a technical issue, which now has been solved.

Second, there are complaints regarding this client (however we cannot comment more on them due to privacy issues as I have already got a negative feedback for it), hence we will be able to unfreeze the funds either the complaints will be solved or we will receive required documents. On the other hand, this person has only created a forum account to discredit us and has provided fake documents and is only telling a small part of the full story.

One more time, we have more than 100,000 happy clients and we are working hard to expand our services and I believe that an incident with one scammer trying to discredit and blackmail us will be understood as an accident which can happen for everyone. It has taught us a lesson, that in addition to reliable, fast and low-cost services, we have to work even harder to ensure the trust of our clients.


You're accusing someone of being a scammer and a blackmailer, yet you refuse to provide any proof because... privacy? Do you really not see how ridiculous that is?

And how much time do you really need to "solve" this?

Yes, I see how ridiculous it was for me to get a negative trust due to the fact "that I do not respect privacy".

Either the person who started this thread shows an interest in solving this issue or complaints will be solved and funds will be returned to actual owners.
of course I want my situation to be resolve so I can get my 100 Bitcoins and I will let the whole forum know it was resolved there is my email address godspowerrasta@yahoo.com  I need help to help my Bitcoins this has put me and family in debts and misery because spectrocoin holding my 100 Bitcoin for their self


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Rastaways on November 02, 2016, 05:07:25 PM
I do not hate spectrocoin my account with spectrocoin ID is godspowerrasta@yahoo.com contains 100 Bitcoins please solve it and give me access to my Bitcoins that is all I asked it Been almost a year


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Rastaways on November 03, 2016, 05:28:28 PM
Someone really hates us and wants to blackmail us...


Spectrocoin is holding my 100 BTC for 9 months now if they are not scammers they should open my account so I can get my BTC   below is the reference

http://https://m.imgur.com/iFdRBRO

http://http://imgur.com/1nM4cpy

http://http://imgur.com/1sYDjhs

http://http://imgur.com/xvWz8jZ


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Rastaways on November 03, 2016, 05:33:40 PM
Someone really hates us and wants to blackmail us...


Spectrocoin is holding my 100 BTC for 9 months now if they are not scammers they should open my account so I can get my BTC   below is the reference

http://https://m.imgur.com/iFdRBRO


http://http://imgur.com/1nM4cpy

http://http://imgur.com/1sYDjhs

http://http://imgur.com/xvWz8jZ


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Bittalker on November 06, 2016, 02:01:13 PM
The spectrocoin manager hasn't post any evidence that the OP/complainer was a fraudster (I agree that the fact that the complainer never posted anything more makes him lose some credibility).

Any company that freezes customers funds has a heavy burden of proof to fulfill. The accusations of privacy infringement doesn't make sense.

Until evidence is posted, spectrocoin will still be under suspicion on the eyes of the community.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: superman7 on January 21, 2017, 01:59:52 PM
Account has been locked by compliance department due to fraud investigation and breach of Terms and Conditions. Client has also provided fake IDs. More information can be provided to moderators.

How about those missing 64 BTC and 24 BTC? Locking the account is one thing but disappearing customer funds is quite different.


Wow just now saw this!

What happened to those missing BTC?

Fraud investigation and breach? Do you know the real meaning?

Even Bitcoin is created by anon person  :o :o :o 


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: AltOfAnAllt on March 03, 2017, 11:00:04 PM
Nothing new here ? SpectroCoin is a scam website who select victims in order to scam ?


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Fortify on March 04, 2017, 12:52:44 PM
Nothing new here ? SpectroCoin is a scam website who select victims in order to scam ?

It may be true, but I find it interesting that people are so eager to believe total newbies who sign up and post a scam complaint without any other history here. That these people are willing to store $50,000 to $100,000 on an exchange that is relatively unknown. It leads me to wonder how these vast sums of bitcoin were "earned" in the first place, was it really investors or could the bitcoin be stolen? That doesn't mean the exchange deserves to keep the money, but proof of the source of funds is usually required by most legitimate financial institutions (as a comparison).


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Nixzor on April 13, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
Anyone know how this story ended?


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: benaz on April 27, 2017, 08:36:03 AM
it was solved ?


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: lankyman on June 02, 2017, 04:02:22 PM
This service appears to be a scam to me, i have tried to call the office number and all i get is a beeping sound.
I am also chatting to Adele and she can not explain to me the steps involved in exchanging BTC to ZAR and then how you transfer that in to a local bank in South Africa.


My recent and only live chat below:
===========================

   
SpectroCoin live chat   
AdeleSupport Agent

Adele Hello. How may I help you?

James hello

James
sorry to keep you waiting, i went to make tea quick.

Adele It is fine Smiley

James I would like to know if this service is for me or not
I need to understand in baby steps how to sell bitcoin?
If i have bitcoin and would like to exchange it to my currency and then send it to my bank
can i do this?
The most cost effective way please, this important to me because i am not wealthy

Adele Yes. If you have bitcoins, you can exchange them to other currencies and transfer to your bank. Are you verified?

James Okay
So can we confirm if i have the correct requirements?
I would like to make 100% sure this is not expensive in fees and that i can exchange to my currency and then how to send to my bank

Adele In order to be able to do it, you need to verify your profile

James okay , but i a, not ready to verify anything yet until i know that i can do this
I am not able to verify as yet because i would like to know that i can indeed exchange to my currency and then transfer it to my bank with your facility.

Adele You can. The customers from South Africa can verify their accounts, deposit and withdraw money
and get our debit cards

James I am looking for the steps involved and what fees are involved
btc to zar - fees?

Adele There is no such thing as fixed fee. It can be calculated in BTC selling form here: https://spectrocoin.com/en/sell/btc.html
The reverse process is here: https://spectrocoin.com/en/buy/btc.html
The currencies we support: GBP, USD, EUR

James and ZAR ?

Adele No. You can deposit money from ZAR credit/debit card, but it will be exchanged during the transaction

James Doesnt sound like i want this service
Poor support if you ask me
I want to exchange my BTC to ZAR and withdraw it
u need to be able to answer that question else i am not interested

Adele You can do it, but withdrawal will still be in GBP, USD, or EUR

James How can i verify if you cant explain to me in simple steps how the process works and if there is no shortfall.
I am trying to call the office
+442037695474
The phone does not ring

Adele Sorry, I need to chat with 7 people at the same time in this job. Please specify which part is not understandable to you? Also, the office hours are finished. Nobody will answer the phone till Monday

James after withdrawal to GBP, USD, or EUR then can i transfer to my bank which is ZAR
it is 3:30 PM ? office is closed?
If i go to https://spectrocoin.com/en/sell/btc.html
I can see ZAR in receive currency , so i dont understand ?
You said i can only exchange to GBP USD EUR

Adele Our support team is working in Lithuania, the time zone is different here. It is 17:32 in our country. Yes, you can. The withdrawal is done in EUR, GBP, USD. If your bank support different currencies, it will be exchanged during transaction

James But when i exchange on the link i gave you it has an option for ZAR so i dont understand this ,still
It is not limited to USD GBP and EUR, this is what i dont understand, it does have an option for ZAR

Adele I believe you have created yoursef a ZAR wallet in your account
You can exchange money to ZAR
Some people like to have various types of currencies

James I have actually not got an account so i dont understand what you are telling me.
I have not created any wallet

Adele But you checked the link? icsoka21@gmail.com this email is registered in our system
Once you log in to this site, the account and wallet are created to you

James 4:42 pm okay
i will try this and see if it works
Thanks for your help

Adele You are welcome, Apologies I couldn't give you more attention. It is quite busy at these hours


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: pjad on June 20, 2017, 09:34:54 AM
Are you all serious with these enormous mention of serious bitcoin transactions???
If i lost 10 BTC - I may go insane or die from quick heart attack.

How did all of this end??
Were these people refunded their deposits?

Lessons to be learnt:
1. Always confirm that your business relations are in accordance with 'TOS' of any web-business you intend to use and record this for future referencing.
2. Please never start or initiate transactions with web-based businesses until after completing account verification. Even when you are not asked about this inquire.
3. Always keep screenshots of your account dealings and changes.

I hope you all survive the loses, DEBTS & miseries pertaining to these kind of situations.
I'm about setting up to use spectrocoin.com before i saw this thread post and will proceed with just as much caution as possible.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: d875926 on June 21, 2017, 06:53:39 PM
Are you all serious with these enormous mention of serious bitcoin transactions???
If i lost 10 BTC - I may go insane or die from quick heart attack.

In that case, good luck my friend. Looks like you're going to need it ;D

I really want to like them. I really do. What they offer sounds great, and they have good BTC price and all... But at this point Spectrocion looks shady as hell. They didn't just suspend OP's account, they CLEARED it. And then ignored any messages coming from him. They're not denying it. And they're not offering ANY counter evidence.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Alert guy on August 27, 2017, 08:52:08 AM
Scam Alert:

Bankera.com is a scam by serial scammer VytautasK.


Bankera.com is a scam by serial scammer VytautasK.

Check Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126829
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Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: onassii on August 28, 2017, 01:52:49 PM
Scam Alert:

Bankera.com is a scam by serial scammer VytautasK.


Bankera.com is a scam by serial scammer VytautasK.

Check Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126829
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You and Rastaways never got your money back?


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: meccaflare0 on August 31, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
I really suggest you get legal council. There are places that specialize with cryptos. You need to press the issue deeper!


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: S.Naka on September 05, 2017, 07:42:14 AM
Scam Alert:

Bankera.com is a scam by serial scammer VytautasK.


Bankera.com is a scam by serial scammer VytautasK.

Check Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2126829
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You and Rastaways never got your money back?


OMG! many user have pay for a scam...


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: IJMR on September 07, 2017, 04:36:36 AM
Holy shit, now that's how you scam people! FFS.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: ostsee77 on September 09, 2017, 09:31:54 PM
but the course is excellent . I would be glad if I had bought the token at the beginning .
will now buy bankera token .this is a good ico


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: ders_a on October 18, 2017, 08:36:51 AM
Interesting if story with topic initiator is solved.

I invested in Bankera and I know Lithuania so I was interested to read whole story. I would say guys, you always need to verify your account before do any transfer of money or btc to spectrocoin. It is a bit strange that you got btc address being not verified. Maybe this part of user interface should be reviewed. I was not able to send any money before my id/address were verified, so I had no issues later


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: oportunis on November 21, 2017, 12:05:27 AM
This service appears to be a scam to me, i have tried to call the office number and all i get is a beeping sound.
I am also chatting to Adele and she can not explain to me the steps involved in exchanging BTC to ZAR and then how you transfer that in to a local bank in South Africa.


My recent and only live chat below:
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SpectroCoin live chat   
AdeleSupport Agent

Adele Hello. How may I help you?

James hello

James
sorry to keep you waiting, i went to make tea quick.

Adele It is fine Smiley

James I would like to know if this service is for me or not
I need to understand in baby steps how to sell bitcoin?
If i have bitcoin and would like to exchange it to my currency and then send it to my bank
can i do this?
The most cost effective way please, this important to me because i am not wealthy

Adele Yes. If you have bitcoins, you can exchange them to other currencies and transfer to your bank. Are you verified?

James Okay
So can we confirm if i have the correct requirements?
I would like to make 100% sure this is not expensive in fees and that i can exchange to my currency and then how to send to my bank

Adele In order to be able to do it, you need to verify your profile

James okay , but i a, not ready to verify anything yet until i know that i can do this
I am not able to verify as yet because i would like to know that i can indeed exchange to my currency and then transfer it to my bank with your facility.

Adele You can. The customers from South Africa can verify their accounts, deposit and withdraw money
and get our debit cards

James I am looking for the steps involved and what fees are involved
btc to zar - fees?

Adele There is no such thing as fixed fee. It can be calculated in BTC selling form here: https://spectrocoin.com/en/sell/btc.html
The reverse process is here: https://spectrocoin.com/en/buy/btc.html
The currencies we support: GBP, USD, EUR

James and ZAR ?

Adele No. You can deposit money from ZAR credit/debit card, but it will be exchanged during the transaction

James Doesnt sound like i want this service
Poor support if you ask me
I want to exchange my BTC to ZAR and withdraw it
u need to be able to answer that question else i am not interested

Adele You can do it, but withdrawal will still be in GBP, USD, or EUR

James How can i verify if you cant explain to me in simple steps how the process works and if there is no shortfall.
I am trying to call the office
+442037695474
The phone does not ring

Adele Sorry, I need to chat with 7 people at the same time in this job. Please specify which part is not understandable to you? Also, the office hours are finished. Nobody will answer the phone till Monday

James after withdrawal to GBP, USD, or EUR then can i transfer to my bank which is ZAR
it is 3:30 PM ? office is closed?
If i go to https://spectrocoin.com/en/sell/btc.html
I can see ZAR in receive currency , so i dont understand ?
You said i can only exchange to GBP USD EUR

Adele Our support team is working in Lithuania, the time zone is different here. It is 17:32 in our country. Yes, you can. The withdrawal is done in EUR, GBP, USD. If your bank support different currencies, it will be exchanged during transaction

James But when i exchange on the link i gave you it has an option for ZAR so i dont understand this ,still
It is not limited to USD GBP and EUR, this is what i dont understand, it does have an option for ZAR

Adele I believe you have created yoursef a ZAR wallet in your account
You can exchange money to ZAR
Some people like to have various types of currencies

James I have actually not got an account so i dont understand what you are telling me.
I have not created any wallet

Adele But you checked the link? icsoka21@gmail.com this email is registered in our system
Once you log in to this site, the account and wallet are created to you

James 4:42 pm okay
i will try this and see if it works
Thanks for your help

Adele You are welcome, Apologies I couldn't give you more attention. It is quite busy at these hours

Lol, how can you say their service is a scam? The lady replied to you how can you get your currency. To be honest ZAR is not popular currency. Also you can send USD to your local bank account and exchange it to ZAR, so where is the problem here? Other option is you can get debit card and withdraw cash in ZAR trough ATM, but fees would be probably high. I mean people are so lazy, cant do nothing on their own...

They can't support all currencies in the whole world, but they support the major ones and USD is exchangeable anywhere, so I don't see any problems with that...

Also people saying Bankera is scam posted by trolls is funny. Please read what are people complaining about and what they did and only than make judgement. Some of them are scammers on their own, trying to get paid by blackmail...

I don't think some scam company would be allowed to create and process IBAN accounts and give it to their users? This is hardcore licensing needed...


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: fiscorcle on November 21, 2017, 12:33:31 AM
Wow....surprising that Bankera is able ot raise so much through their ICO with reports like this out there..


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: |Admiral| on November 21, 2017, 03:33:37 AM
Wow....surprising that Bankera is able ot raise so much through their ICO with reports like this out there..
The bitcointalk.org doesnot comprises even 40% of total population that uses cryptocurrency so the fact they are gullible to bankera scam promotions.
I think Mod must ban their main ICO thread like they did with Chahal guy.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: fiscorcle on November 21, 2017, 07:16:45 PM
Wow....surprising that Bankera is able ot raise so much through their ICO with reports like this out there..
The bitcointalk.org doesnot comprises even 40% of total population that uses cryptocurrency so the fact they are gullible to bankera scam promotions.
I think Mod must ban their main ICO thread like they did with Chahal guy.

No, but word can get out for stuff like this fairly easily I feel like, especially when issues are so seemingly cut and dried


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: ders_a on December 10, 2017, 01:21:49 PM
LOL, guys, compare to many unregulated companies, Bankera/Spectrocoin are regulated. Means they required to follow rules of regulators and you need to be verified there. Same like on many american platforms. That is not scam, that is normal. Simply do not use if do not like this


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: clan23 on December 30, 2017, 02:30:01 PM
Account has been locked by compliance department due to fraud investigation and breach of Terms and Conditions. Client has also provided fake IDs. More information can be provided to moderators.

How about those missing 64 BTC and 24 BTC? Locking the account is one thing but disappearing customer funds is quite different.


when this 64 bitcoins are away then this is SCAM 

proof me I am wrong and I believe you


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Apekool on January 16, 2018, 02:47:48 PM
Fact is that if you were actually conducting fraud then the SpectroCoin exchange is bound by law to report you to the authorities and provide the evidence for your misconduct (because of the amount of currency in your account).

I take it that never happened right?

This is deception and nothing more.

One might wonder who are all involved as not many support was given to you from the exchange.



Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Strox18 on January 16, 2018, 03:39:05 PM
Spectrocoin is balant scam, i don't recommend it to anyone.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Naster on August 28, 2018, 11:01:12 AM
Looking for more information about SpectroCoin I came through this. How did the story end finally?


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: r34tr783tr78 on August 30, 2018, 10:57:27 PM
The Internet is full of scam reports against Spectrocoin. And if anyone searches this forum will find a few more.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: Naster on August 31, 2018, 10:15:30 PM
The Internet is full of scam reports against Spectrocoin. And if anyone searches this forum will find a few more.

Yeah I was very surprised how many scam accusations are to be found here...  :o


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: r34tr783tr78 on September 01, 2018, 12:32:42 PM
And by the way as far as I know the OP of this thread never recovered his money. And there are other forum members on the same situation because of spectrocoin.


Title: Re: █ Spectrocoin.com imitated a transfer of 64 BTC. Then removed 24+ BTC more
Post by: JollyGood on September 17, 2019, 12:54:44 PM
This topic has not been posted on for a long time but it needs to be posted in because Spectrocoin/Bankera scammers are still active 3 years after this thread was started

These evil pathetic low-life scammers behind Spectrocoin/Bankera should not be allowed to use this forum because their sole aim is to fool users and to scam them

I hope they get arrested soon and get jailed for their crimes