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Economy => Exchanges => Topic started by: TookDk on August 23, 2016, 10:02:44 AM



Title: Question about anonymous debit visa cards
Post by: TookDk on August 23, 2016, 10:02:44 AM
Hi bitcointalk community,

I have for the last few years seen an increasing sale of anonymous VISA cards.
To be honest I have more or less assumed that these are used for shady business only.
But I can see a good use for these if you are using bitcoin already.
However, it must be perfectly legal, else is it irrelevant for me.

My first and most import question:
Is anonymous VISA cards in any way illegal to obtain and use under EU legislation?

If no, then:
What solutions exist? I have the impression that you can get them with both SEPA and Bitcoin transfer.
If using bitcoins, how long will it typical take for the funds to be credited?

I am also interested in knowing if "semi" anonymous solutions exist at a well know and trusted company, were you register with your name and true identity, but physically gets a card name written on the card.
I am fairly sure that no banks in Scandinavia offers this service.

Cheers :)


Title: Re: Question about anonymous debit visa cards
Post by: n691309 on August 23, 2016, 10:26:42 AM
I'm also worried about using bitcoin debit card where a random nickname is printed on the card, which in fact is not my name so if the card sucks at ATM and I should call someone(the security) to help me get back my card they would ask me for the ID which name should be the same on the card too, I would get in trouble and maybe arrested.

2) When my name is printed on my bitcoin debit card then it is easier because you are the owner of the card, and you an continue using it until you reach the limit.


Title: Re: Question about anonymous debit visa cards
Post by: TookDk on August 23, 2016, 10:40:58 AM
I'm also worried about using bitcoin debit card where a random nickname is printed on the card, which in fact is not my name so if the card sucks at ATM and I should call someone(the security) to help me get back my card they would ask me for the ID which name should be the same on the card too, I would get in trouble and maybe arrested.

2) When my name is printed on my bitcoin debit card then it is easier because you are the owner of the card, and you an continue using it until you reach the limit.

So, there is a name on the cards - but it is just not yours? That sounds a bit shady to me.
I had the impression that the card was just "blank" (no name written).


Title: Re: Question about anonymous debit visa cards
Post by: n691309 on August 23, 2016, 10:53:35 AM
I'm also worried about using bitcoin debit card where a random nickname is printed on the card, which in fact is not my name so if the card sucks at ATM and I should call someone(the security) to help me get back my card they would ask me for the ID which name should be the same on the card too, I would get in trouble and maybe arrested.

2) When my name is printed on my bitcoin debit card then it is easier because you are the owner of the card, and you an continue using it until you reach the limit.

So, there is a name on the cards - but it is just not yours? That sounds a bit shady to me.
I had the impression that the card was just "blank" (no name written).

I ordered one on cryptopay a while before and i was asked for a name which i choose a random one, so i have a limit of 2000€ lifetime to withdraw, but if i want to lift this limit I should send verifications documents to them.


Title: Re: Question about anonymous debit visa cards
Post by: TookDk on August 23, 2016, 11:28:58 AM
I'm also worried about using bitcoin debit card where a random nickname is printed on the card, which in fact is not my name so if the card sucks at ATM and I should call someone(the security) to help me get back my card they would ask me for the ID which name should be the same on the card too, I would get in trouble and maybe arrested.

2) When my name is printed on my bitcoin debit card then it is easier because you are the owner of the card, and you an continue using it until you reach the limit.

So, there is a name on the cards - but it is just not yours? That sounds a bit shady to me.
I had the impression that the card was just "blank" (no name written).

I ordered one on cryptopay a while before and i was asked for a name which i choose a random one, so i have a limit of 2000€ lifetime to withdraw, but if i want to lift this limit I should send verifications documents to them.

How long does it (practically take) from you bitcoin tx is confirmed on the blockchain to you can spend the cash on the cryptopay card?


Title: Re: Question about anonymous debit visa cards
Post by: n691309 on August 23, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
I'm also worried about using bitcoin debit card where a random nickname is printed on the card, which in fact is not my name so if the card sucks at ATM and I should call someone(the security) to help me get back my card they would ask me for the ID which name should be the same on the card too, I would get in trouble and maybe arrested.

2) When my name is printed on my bitcoin debit card then it is easier because you are the owner of the card, and you an continue using it until you reach the limit.

So, there is a name on the cards - but it is just not yours? That sounds a bit shady to me.
I had the impression that the card was just "blank" (no name written).

I ordered one on cryptopay a while before and i was asked for a name which i choose a random one, so i have a limit of 2000€ lifetime to withdraw, but if i want to lift this limit I should send verifications documents to them.

How long does it (practically take) from you bitcoin tx is confirmed on the blockchain to you can spend the cash on the cryptopay card?

I have never tried it because of the reason above, but if you have time check on their site because Im on the phone right now but will check later, but I dont think will needtoo much time, few confirmations should be enough or max 6.