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ThiagoCMC is suspect of fraud because he is refusing to pay back a loan which he made to buy an Avalon. He is erasing whatever comment I made against him:

https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

You are hilarious!!!     ;D

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

I approve of this message.

 ;D

@Augusto,

You said: "I got a mute call without ID in my cell phone. That was probably from ThiagoCMC..."

This obviously shows, how sick you are.

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

I must to note that ThiagoCMC is also not telling the truth. He also deleted a topic that I made myself. That means he used his power as moderator of the Portuguese sub-forum to suppress evidence against him.

Do not post my private information (or of anyone else).
Simple as that.

There are procedures to get someone tagged a scammer if they are guilty of fraud. Slander is not among them.

(How's that for irony, huh? Me, telling you to follow the rules. :D )

Thanks, so I should go ahead and report all the pots containing private information of Trendon Shavers, Thomas Van Riper, James/Nefario, Ian Bakewell, Josh Zerlan, MPOE-PR, [...].

It looks like that this "rule" hasn't being enforced.. well practically ever until some mod got doxxed and deletes posts about it himself?

Please, let me know where I made a mistake.

I do not have any kind of business with Augusto. And he keeps posting my private information here. He is nuts.

Please don't skip over the question here - why is it not OK to post YOUR private information, but it is OK to post other people's? If the latter is not true, then why aren't those posts deleted?

If you're not sure where they are I am happy to report a few hundred posts :)

I did nothing wrong.   :P

Policy is "not ok to post personal information unless they do something wrong?"

What about Josh Zerlan and PuretoLibre? MPOE-PR? Tons of other examples.

And besides not making a full repayment can be considered doing something wrong. (Apologies if wrong, I haven't followed this issue).

AFAIK the forum policy is not deleting any personal information that was posted. Theymos can clarify that though - I am not sure of the extent of this policy.

John,

 Please, let me know if I did something wrong.

 I think that this is ridiculous mostly because on that exposed document, which Augusto and Rodrigo grabbed from here, there are others peoples addresses! Not only my!!!

 People that have nothing to do with this are being exposed there (my private Avalon ticket document). I don't know but, it doesn't seem right.

Thanks,
Thiago

He is waiting for the rest of payment... The world spins...

I'm not sure if you're doing right or wrong here (and indeed you seem to be repaying actively for the record), but that's the forum policy as I know it.  I personally think that posting such data before the scam is confirmed is quite impolite and pointless though, but please PM theymos to ask him clarify this issue.

Oh no! He did not made anything wrong, people!

He just got a loan of 60 BTC months back to buy an Avalon and defaulted. Then he decided to pay when he wanted. When the person which made the loan decided to keep the Avalon as collateral, he got desperate and made an appeal for the forum's users. Then he was offered an address to pay back the 60 BTC, which he guaranteed to have. But guess what? He once more defaulted. Then he decided to make an unilateral agreement to pay less! Yes, pay less because he was concerned with the information published by the person which made the loan. So after months without pay back, instead to pay more (interest), he wanted to pay less (discount). Then he deleted the evidence which proves that he made the loan. Yes, he erased the posts where he promised a date to pay back the loan! But that did not end there. I started to call him out and he decided to suppress all my posts against him in the Portuguese sub-forum, including a topic I made myself to alert the Portuguese speakers!

No worries, folks! He have Myrkul on his side giving him support. So he must be legit!

The problem is that as a moderator it's your job to enforce the forum rules and only the forum rules.  There is no forum rule against posting personal information and theymos has refused to remove personal information in the past.

Your thread was not a self-moderated thread (from which the OP can delete posts for any reason they like).  You used your moderator powers to remove information/delete posts from it and other threads.  You may not think this was "wrong", but you weren't enforcing forum rules when you used your moderator powers to remove content to which you objected.

There cannot be one set of rules for users and another set for moderators.  If you can't limit your use of moderator powers to enforcing actual forum rules then you should step down as a moderator.  Whether I believe your behaviour in respect to the Avalon was appropriate is irrelevant.  Your behaviour in respect to the posts regarding that issue is unacceptable and an abuse of the power with which you were entrusted.

Mmmm... Okay, I can see that...
Do whatever you guys think it is best for the forum.

Regards,
Thiago

My advice: Dox him in return.

lol

BTW, in the middle of this, I may have deleted some posts without thinking it right.
Please, remove my moderator power if I'm guilty.

Best,
Thiago

Yes, do it:

"Here, folks, Augusto Croppo personal information... So now that you have this information.... Well, he did not made anything wrong... So I do not know what to do or what to advise with this information... Oh, well, Augusto Croppo address is... Well... Should we send him flowers?"

Please, keep me laughing. This comedy is priceless!

You right, do whatever you want, I don't care anymore.

Regarding my role in this forum, once you pay back the fully amount owned to Rodrigo, I will erase immediately the information which you do not want published.

In the case of the posts which you deleted, that is outside my influence. For such actions you will have to deal with the forum's administrator.

Probably shouldn't have deleted those, posting people's information is fine (it isn't private if you shared it with others, should only share it with those you trust).

No need to step down though, everyone makes mistakes, moderators aren't exempt from that.

I don't have an opinion on the scammer accusations, haven't looked and probably won't, I don't even speak the native language of the people involved.

You're a roleless "man".

So, you fell in the middle of my "negotiation / crap", built a scene accusing me of fraud by grabbing (from Rodrigo's hand) and publishing my Avalon ticket as "proof", until I pay my debt with someone else?

Where the hell did you come from?!    LOL

I did not share it, BitSyncom did (don't know why) but, he already deleted its copy.

I'm seeing where I did it wrong... If you guys wants to undo my deletions, no problem, do it.

If the forum had an undo feature, I was already using it.   ;)

I don't remember how things go here, but on other forums i frequent, when somthing is not supposed to be posted, they edit the post in question replacing the questionable content with a notice explaining the reason, keeping the surrounding harmless text for context. Seems like a good approach IMO, helps to avoid the risk of accusations of a mod trying to cover their tracks. (the distinction is mostly just on the presentation, but the presentation can be part of the message)



Btw, any idea how Croppo got his hands on your data?

I was thinking something just as fragrant, but less pleasant.

At least we know to not use your dispute resolution -.-

I was not aware he was a customer of mine. Certainly he and I have no contract, and outside of any contract, you get from me what you give. He's earned his disrespect, fair and square.

That's true, the famous "EDITED: " note...     :-\

I'll keep that in mind.

BitSyncom first published it out from support.avalon-asic.com on his post (I don't blame him for nothing):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=160527.msg1701978#msg1701978


Days later, when Augusto come from the hell after I call him a reactionary, Rodrigo gave to him his copy...

And the "drama" keeps rolling, well, not for me because I have the BitSyncom message saying that the hardware will go to my first original address, problem solved.

I probably made some mistakes, okay, deleting some posts, delaying Rodrigo's payment (after he refusing it (world spins))...

I always deal with the truth... It is easier that way.

So the whole internet knows that link and you say I gave it Augusto?  Can you prove it? Was it PM or what?
You saying Augusto is not able to do his own research?  

For me that guy is smarter than most here.

This.

The Portuguese's sub-forum moderator ThiagoCMC continues to erase comments against him under the pretext that he does whatever he wants on his thread (which is not truly his):

Perhaps you would like to explain how that post was on-topic?

'cause it sure looks off-topic.
Translation:

Augusto is just trolling... It is obvious that he doesn't know what a woman is.

He goes there, to talk shit, so, I delete his shit, he comes here... Hey, ThiagoCMC is deleting my FUD, my shit... Please, make him stop it...

Go get a life!! If you can... You bastard!!

He is doing this because he is the master of the jerks. Let it go...

You did not translated the post which ThiagoCMC erased:


So this shows that my message was not off-topic as you are suggesting. I made a comment indicating an action which happened in the thread. That is completely on-topic.

You are trying to justify ThiacoCMC's abuse of power by nitpicking on my words.

Now, crawl back to your hole there in Politics & Society sub forum, because your judgment in this matter is a total failure.

What to 'know an woman is' has anything to do with this discussion?


You did not just deleted my post, but the post of another user as well.


Typical response from scummy people: swear at the person which called him out.

Keep going ThiagoCMC, more you try to disguise your actions with your abuse of power, more you expose yourself.

I'm scared shitless!

Now I know, this world is much worse than I thought, because you exist.

Thank you for translating that. Google did a horrible job, that's why I didn't include it. You made a comment about another off-topic reply being deleted. How does that make it on-topic?

He is complaining because I deleted this:

"Quote from: dedinholeve on April 04, 2013, 05:54:11 AM
we are fucked

ThiagoCMC = thief
leandro = thief

end of the bits"

...from my thread... How ridiculous is him?

of course I'll delete that crap...

Define why the messages are off-topic. Explain why do you think that posts are off-topic and show the parameters which leads you to conclude that.

Once you do that, I will answer your question.

Based on what parameters? What make you think that is 'crap'?

Because you're trolling and being ridiculous.

Wait, that is only what you can do, since you are a jerk.

Really??  LOLOLOL

"Quote from: dedinholeve on April 04, 2013, 05:54:11 AM <----not OP or ThiagoCMC - thread was discussing loan between OP and ThiagoCMC
we are fucked <--- FUD

ThiagoCMC = thief <----Possibly on-topic, if he is asserting Thiago was not going to pay. However, thieves don't give back half the money, and promise to pay the rest ASAP.
leandro = thief <---- Who the fuck is this, and what does it have to do with the discussion?

end of the bits" <---- I take this to mean that the failure of this loan will be the end of Bitcoin? Not hardly. FUD.


You don't need to, it was rhetorical. In other words, the point of the question was that the answer was obvious.

There you have, ladies and gentleman. ThiagoCMC is admitting have no coherent judgment or parameter to erase posts. He thinks that he is entitled to erase whatever posts he wants if the thinks the user is a 'jerk' or  a 'troll'. That indicates his is completely biased and erase posts on a personal basis. So if anyone post something which is unpleasant to his person, he will deleted under the justification that he is keeping the forum clean of 'crap'.

 

Pretty much sounds like the job description for "Forum moderator": Delete the posts of trolls and jerks, and keep the forum clean of crap.

Here we go, ladies and gentleman. That shows how you should never rely on Myrkul's judgment. He is completely clueless regarding arbitration. Observe the above post where he try to justify the moderator's abuse of power by using concepts unrelated to the discussion, with highlighted phrases (sign of desperation?).

E.g.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt


It is obvious that the deleted post has nothing to do with 'a strategic attempt to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information'. The poster was only expressing his feelings regarding the subject discussed in the topic:


We are fucked, that is: "we, the people participating in the Portuguese sub forum, are in trouble because two important users are suspicious of fraudulent actions".

ThiagoCMC = thief: "ThiagoCMC, which made a loan and did try to not pay back, is a thief"

leandro = thief: "leandro, which is the owner of the Mercado Bitcoin, is a thief because he kept the customer's funds to him, like ThiagoCMC"

end of the bits: "End of the use of Bitcoins by Brazilian users".

As you can now understand, the post was on-topic since the feelings expressed by the poster are based on the discussed subject.

That shows that Myrkul is prone to defend abuse of power and ThiagoCMC is using his position as moderator to cover up comments against him.

In other words, off-topic FUD, as I said. 

As I said, marginally on-topic, ecxept for the fact that hes is repaying the loan.

As I said, off-topic completely, referring to a totally different user and interaction than the thread.

Again, not hardly. More FUD.

FYI, the highlights were to show you what was off-topic (red), and what was on-topic (green).

Feel free to waste your time with this, I'm done doing so. Thanks for reminding me why I have you on ignore.

I want also leave registered here that ThiagoCMC is planning to left the moderator position to bully me:

As you see, ladies and gentleman, Myrkul failed to explain how that post was a 'strategic attempt to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information'. He is just repeating his misconception of what FUD really means. Moreover, Myrkul completely ignored the fact that FUD is used for commercial purposes, not to express feelings.

moderating on this forum is just outright strange they are letting people post cat pictures and then saying they are not trolling

http://fivehourfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/WTF.jpg