ThiagoCMC, moderator using his power to censorship comments against him

[augustocroppo]

ThiagoCMC is suspect of fraud because he is refusing to pay back a loan which he made to buy an Avalon. He is erasing whatever comment I made against him:

https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

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O Thiago foi avisado. Agora vai ter que responder pelos atos dele:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164224

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Rodrigo, equanto o Augusto continuar a postar o meu endereço particular aqui no fórum, pode esquecer o restante do pagamento.
O que o Augusto está fazendo é ILEGAL.
Você já entendeu o recado, agora faz a sua mulher entender também.

Thiago, por favor, continue. Cada vez que tu apaga uma mensagem minha, fica registrado.

Mais tarde tu vai ter que lidar com o administrador deste fórum, o Theymos.

Além disto, o que estou fazendo não tem nada de ilegal.

Tu foi avisado.

"Se não aguenta, bebe leite".

Entquanto você, Augusto, continuar postando meu endereço de forma ilegal, o Rodrigo pode esquecer o restante do pagamento.

Tu sempre estás a estimular as pessoas deste fórum a adotar comportamentos criminosos com seu estúpido discurso anarquista contra o governo. Agora que evidência demonstra tu ser um pilantra, tu estás a tentar me intimidar com ameaças vazias!

Que piada! Fez me rir...

Ou seja, quando a lei não lhe é favorável, tu estás a criticar o governo e a ignorar as leis promulgada pelo mesmo, mas quando tu precisas dele, repentinamente as leis existem!

Tu és literalmente um patife!

Por favor, continue com sua teimosia! Enquanto tu não pagar o Rodrigo de forma integral, vou continuar recolhendo evidência contra ti.

Por falar nisto, cade aqueles usuários que ficaram enfezados quando eu disse que BTC é utilizado exclusivamente por criminosos? Olha aí o moderador deste fórum provando minha afirmação!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=164224.0

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Tiago,

O Rodrigo já está esperando o restante do pagamento... Veja:

"dias atrás vc tinha dito possuir suficiente para enviar 60. aprecio a agilidade no envio das 31.73 restantes."

O Augusto entrou no meio só para encher o saco, depois que chamei ele de reacionário...

Mas agora, ficar postando os meus dados pessoais... Afe... Fala sério, já estou preparando uma notificação oficial contra esse sujeito...

Sem mais,
Thiago

Mal entende de Direito e agora quer me ameaçar com uma "notificação oficial"!

Mais uma piada... Que hilário!

Por falar nisto não lembro de tu haveres me chamado de reacionário... Ou seja, mais uma de suas mentiras.

O reacionário aqui és tu, não eu:

re.a.ci.o.ná.rio
adj. Relativo ao partido da reação, acep. 7. 2. Contrário à liberdade individual e coletiva. S. m. Indivíduo reacionário.

Tu apagou mais uma mensagem que deixei registrada aqui.

És tu quem estás agindo contra minha liberdade individual de expressar e demonstrar que tu és um vigarista!

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Recebi uma ligação muda sem identificação no meu telefone celular. Provavelmente foi o ThiagoCMC já que é um numero que utilizo apenas para meus negócios e dificilmente recebo ligações daquela maneira. O patife está tentando me intimidar de todas as formas.

ThiagoCMC,

Não ouse tentar me intimidar ou mesmo chegar perto da minha propriedade. Tu não sabes com que tu estás a lidar. Se tu me ameaçar de qualquer maneira que prejudique a minha integridade física ou de minha propriedade, eu vou te entregar direto para a Polícia Federal e entrar em contato com meus amigos na Polícia Civil.

Paga o que tu deve antes de a situação ficar pior para ti.


I got a mute call without ID in my cell phone. That was probably from ThiagoCMC since it is a number that I use for my business and I just barely get calls like that. The rascal is trying to intimidate me at all cost.

ThiagoCMC,

Do not dare try to intimidate me or even come near my property. You dot not know with what you are dealing. If you threaten me in any way which harm my body or my property, I will deliver you straight to the Federal Police and get in touch with my friends in the Civil Police.

Pay what you own before the situation gets worse for you.

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[ThiagoCMC]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

[myrkul]

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I approve of this message.

[ThiagoCMC]

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I approve of this message.

 

[ThiagoCMC]

@Augusto,

You said: "I got a mute call without ID in my cell phone. That was probably from ThiagoCMC..."

This obviously shows, how sick you are.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

[augustocroppo]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

I must to note that ThiagoCMC is also not telling the truth. He also deleted a topic that I made myself. That means he used his power as moderator of the Portuguese sub-forum to suppress evidence against him.

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[ThiagoCMC]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

I must to note that ThiagoCMC is also not telling the truth. He also deleted a topic that I made myself. That means he used his power as moderator of the Portuguese sub-forum to suppress evidence against him.

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Do not post my private information (or of anyone else).
Simple as that.

[myrkul]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

I must to note that ThiagoCMC is also not telling the truth. He also deleted a topic that I made myself. That means he used his power as moderator of the Portuguese sub-forum to suppress evidence against him.

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There are procedures to get someone tagged a scammer if they are guilty of fraud. Slander is not among them.

(How's that for irony, huh? Me, telling you to follow the rules. )

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

I must to note that ThiagoCMC is also not telling the truth. He also deleted a topic that I made myself. That means he used his power as moderator of the Portuguese sub-forum to suppress evidence against him.

Remove topic: ThiagoCMC, moderador suspeito de fraude in topic #164291 by member #50315

Do not post my private information (or of anyone else).
Simple as that.

Thanks, so I should go ahead and report all the pots containing private information of Trendon Shavers, Thomas Van Riper, James/Nefario, Ian Bakewell, Josh Zerlan, MPOE-PR, [...].

It looks like that this "rule" hasn't being enforced.. well practically ever until some mod got doxxed and deletes posts about it himself?

[ThiagoCMC]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

Please, let me know where I made a mistake.

I do not have any kind of business with Augusto. And he keeps posting my private information here. He is nuts.

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

Please, let me know where I made a mistake.

I do not have any kind of business with Augusto. And he keeps posting my private information here. He is nuts.

Please don't skip over the question here - why is it not OK to post YOUR private information, but it is OK to post other people's? If the latter is not true, then why aren't those posts deleted?

If you're not sure where they are I am happy to report a few hundred posts

[ThiagoCMC]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

I must to note that ThiagoCMC is also not telling the truth. He also deleted a topic that I made myself. That means he used his power as moderator of the Portuguese sub-forum to suppress evidence against him.

Remove topic: ThiagoCMC, moderador suspeito de fraude in topic #164291 by member #50315

Do not post my private information (or of anyone else).
Simple as that.

Thanks, so I should go ahead and report all the pots containing private information of Trendon Shavers, Thomas Van Riper, James/Nefario, Ian Bakewell, Josh Zerlan, MPOE-PR, [...].

It looks like that this "rule" hasn't being enforced.. well practically ever until some mod got doxxed and deletes posts about it himself?

I did nothing wrong.  

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

I must to note that ThiagoCMC is also not telling the truth. He also deleted a topic that I made myself. That means he used his power as moderator of the Portuguese sub-forum to suppress evidence against him.

Remove topic: ThiagoCMC, moderador suspeito de fraude in topic #164291 by member #50315

Do not post my private information (or of anyone else).
Simple as that.

Thanks, so I should go ahead and report all the pots containing private information of Trendon Shavers, Thomas Van Riper, James/Nefario, Ian Bakewell, Josh Zerlan, MPOE-PR, [...].

It looks like that this "rule" hasn't being enforced.. well practically ever until some mod got doxxed and deletes posts about it himself?

I did nothing wrong.  

Policy is "not ok to post personal information unless they do something wrong?"

What about Josh Zerlan and PuretoLibre? MPOE-PR? Tons of other examples.

And besides not making a full repayment can be considered doing something wrong. (Apologies if wrong, I haven't followed this issue).

[John (John K.)]

AFAIK the forum policy is not deleting any personal information that was posted. Theymos can clarify that though - I am not sure of the extent of this policy.

[ThiagoCMC]

AFAIK the forum policy is not deleting any personal information that was posted. Theymos can clarify that though - I am not sure of the extent of this policy.

John,

 Please, let me know if I did something wrong.

 I think that this is ridiculous mostly because on that exposed document, which Augusto and Rodrigo grabbed from here, there are others peoples addresses! Not only my!!!

 People that have nothing to do with this are being exposed there (my private Avalon ticket document). I don't know but, it doesn't seem right.

Thanks,
Thiago

[ThiagoCMC]

You are hilarious!!!    

Of course I'll delete your messages, you come to my thread and start calling me a liar...

Zero tolerance for people like you.

I did not give you any kind of freedom to meddle in my business.

For me, you are just just another crazy Internet guy...

Obvious conflict of interest. Why don't you make it a self moderated topic sour you are going to suppress people who are against you?

There's being far more [false/misleading/whatever] accusations on bitcointalk that aren't deleted. Seriously, moderation here needs a review.

I must to note that ThiagoCMC is also not telling the truth. He also deleted a topic that I made myself. That means he used his power as moderator of the Portuguese sub-forum to suppress evidence against him.

Remove topic: ThiagoCMC, moderador suspeito de fraude in topic #164291 by member #50315

Do not post my private information (or of anyone else).
Simple as that.

Thanks, so I should go ahead and report all the pots containing private information of Trendon Shavers, Thomas Van Riper, James/Nefario, Ian Bakewell, Josh Zerlan, MPOE-PR, [...].

It looks like that this "rule" hasn't being enforced.. well practically ever until some mod got doxxed and deletes posts about it himself?

I did nothing wrong.  

Policy is "not ok to post personal information unless they do something wrong?"

What about Josh Zerlan and PuretoLibre? MPOE-PR? Tons of other examples.

And besides not making a full repayment can be considered doing something wrong. (Apologies if wrong, I haven't followed this issue).

He is waiting for the rest of payment... The world spins...

[John (John K.)]

AFAIK the forum policy is not deleting any personal information that was posted. Theymos can clarify that though - I am not sure of the extent of this policy.

John,

 Please, let me know if I did something wrong.

 I think that this is ridiculous mostly because on that exposed document, which Augusto and Rodrigo grabbed from here, there are others peoples addresses! Not only my!!!

 People that have nothing to do with this are being exposed there (my private Avalon ticket document). I don't know but, it doesn't seem right.

Thanks,
Thiago

I'm not sure if you're doing right or wrong here (and indeed you seem to be repaying actively for the record), but that's the forum policy as I know it.  I personally think that posting such data before the scam is confirmed is quite impolite and pointless though, but please PM theymos to ask him clarify this issue.

[augustocroppo]

I did nothing wrong.  

Oh no! He did not made anything wrong, people!

He just got a loan of 60 BTC months back to buy an Avalon and defaulted. Then he decided to pay when he wanted. When the person which made the loan decided to keep the Avalon as collateral, he got desperate and made an appeal for the forum's users. Then he was offered an address to pay back the 60 BTC, which he guaranteed to have. But guess what? He once more defaulted. Then he decided to make an unilateral agreement to pay less! Yes, pay less because he was concerned with the information published by the person which made the loan. So after months without pay back, instead to pay more (interest), he wanted to pay less (discount). Then he deleted the evidence which proves that he made the loan. Yes, he erased the posts where he promised a date to pay back the loan! But that did not end there. I started to call him out and he decided to suppress all my posts against him in the Portuguese sub-forum, including a topic I made myself to alert the Portuguese speakers!

No worries, folks! He have Myrkul on his side giving him support. So he must be legit!

[repentance]

AFAIK the forum policy is not deleting any personal information that was posted. Theymos can clarify that though - I am not sure of the extent of this policy.

John,

 Please, let me know if I did something wrong.

 I think that this is ridiculous mostly because on that exposed document, which Augusto and Rodrigo grabbed from here, there are others peoples addresses! Not only my!!!

 People that have nothing to do with this are being exposed there (my private Avalon ticket document). I don't know but, it doesn't seem right.

Thanks,
Thiago

The problem is that as a moderator it's your job to enforce the forum rules and only the forum rules.  There is no forum rule against posting personal information and theymos has refused to remove personal information in the past.

Your thread was not a self-moderated thread (from which the OP can delete posts for any reason they like).  You used your moderator powers to remove information/delete posts from it and other threads.  You may not think this was "wrong", but you weren't enforcing forum rules when you used your moderator powers to remove content to which you objected.

There cannot be one set of rules for users and another set for moderators.  If you can't limit your use of moderator powers to enforcing actual forum rules then you should step down as a moderator.  Whether I believe your behaviour in respect to the Avalon was appropriate is irrelevant.  Your behaviour in respect to the posts regarding that issue is unacceptable and an abuse of the power with which you were entrusted.