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Hello Everyone..

I am in need of some money. so I came here to ask a loan to fulfil my need..

I need a loan of 4Bitcoin.

I have an ICNOMI ICO account with 17000 ICN Tokens, one Decent ICO Account with 400 Decent Coins, one Incent ICO Accounts with 1000 Incent Tokens.

A Person who know about these projects, their value and Potential Can Confirm That these are almost 150% of My Asking Loan.


I'll Repay The Loan after 3  Months..
I Can't Pay any Interest..


So Tell me is there anyone who can give me a loan?

Hello there. :)

I know these projects and yes, their value is good to cover your Loan if you default.
Though personally, i cant give a Loan without any interest and for 1 month... :-\

Still, if you change your mind about it, send me a PM and we can arrange something.

Good luck!

I might be able to fulfill this loan request after 1 month as my funds are tied into other ventures ATM.

Also I don't charge any interest on loans I give so if this loan is unfulfilled after 1 month just shoot me a PM.

Bro. I don't have attention to default the loan.. I've sent you a PM.. kindly response please.

I need this loan urgent today...
I am very hopeful that I can repay earlier of the month..

I can fill the loan, I just need 12% interest. (If you got a good source, I can do it lower)*1 I know it if against your initial request, but at least you got the offer.
I can fill it in 5 hours, so it might be against the purse of the loan.

(Kinda on-topic)
Are you able to point me to a source of the value of ICN tokens?



*1 I can give a repayment plan, which allows you to pay less interest incase you repay before the agreed date.

currently i think the value of ICN tokens around 0.00019741/ICN

based on an invested amount at the ico 10,682,516.42 USD = 16.780BTC / 85.000.000 token = 0.00019741

I Can't pay interested.. It is not because I don't afford to pay.. it is because I am a Muslim and taking and giving Interested is Not allowed for me..
BTW thanks.. I request you please reconsider.
(Or anyone else?)

your Calculation is wrong. ICONOMI's ICO price is 21K satoshi. I am a invester of ICONOMI and I know it very well.

That'll be hard to find someone who will accept without an interest. Instead of considering it as an interest, just view it as a tip or something just so the lender will somehow benefit. Are you also not allowed to give tips?

Really now? Because of your religion, you dont give interest? ???
So, the grossaries that you are buying from a store, dont have some interest on them...
The food that you eat in a restaurant, is with no profit at all...

Oh, maybe all the Muslim businessman dont pay interest when they get a loan from a bank...
Now, i want to become a Muslim too!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

Of course, it's true.

I have many muslins that are taking loans from me time to time and never paying interest. But if I need help they are always offering.

Really sorry for this. If I would saw your announcemt yesterday I could help you.

From today to 1st of november i m not even having money for bread so yeah :(

Long live pakistan, but the muslins from irak are much funnier :))

Why don't you start by "selling" one of your forum accounts ? Apparently,you have lot of them! ;)

Opps.I was expecting much more.Anyway,bullshit,the collateral is not VALID.You're blowin stuff out of proportion.You're puttin price for something which hasn't even properly launched yet.Pure Scam..I mean,just a few days back saw a thread claiming ICONOMI to be a scam.

So you mean you're taking a loss here ? Why would anyone do that ?It's simple,even you know the project ain't worth shit and the guy giving you loan is going to get back a lot of "regret" coins (if they have been made at all!).

What's the guarantee ? Some shit coin project which doesn't hold any value in the market currently ?

Interest and profit both are 2 different things.

@OP Just a honest idea if you are not going to pay any interest just give something in return some extra money as a reward as a gift? However no one is going to give you a loan without taking something in return

If you loan you're friend you're taking extra money in return?

Cmon guys...

Gotta include original post

BTW this "muslim no pay interest" is just bullshit  ::) ::)  It's not a "sin" to PAY interest.  It's supposedly a "sin" to CHARGE interest.  Either way OP is pathetic in this scam attempt.



BTW this request is just another scam attempt by the ALT https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=891798 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1643635.0

The collateral is absolutely valid.. The coins are not launched yet. but it doesn't make them unvaluable..
and that scam Accusation is totally false. I suggest you read the both side's info before saying any bullshit.. Anything people invested in ICONOMI are in hold of Trusted Escrow. ICONOMI will never get a single penny doing scam before the launch..


As I said a person who know about them he can say how much they worth. if someone give me a loan how he'll be in loss? these accounts value is higher than my loan. and this is the term of a loan to give a 120% higher value collateral.


These are not shitcoin..  Read before saying something shit..


And it the end. may I ask you what is the reason of doing all this useless Propaganda?



 LOL.. you are a another kind of retard.. anyone ask for loan he's my alt?

The value is higher NOW. You're asking someone to take on a risk that these will tank and they'll be left with less than they loaned you. You are also asking them to take that risk with ZERO RETURN. It's a high-risk, literally-zero-reward situation. Good luck.

I'm not sure what OP point is, 12 oct he want to buy ICONOMI token with budget 1.5 btc and on 13 oct he need a 1.3 BTC loan for a month with ICONOMI token and another coin ICO as collateral. https://archive.is/hiMug

I reached on an agreement of a deal with FeroxtoBTC... Now looking for an escrow.. I have to lock this thread guys.
this wasn't made for your signature spamming..

Thanks.

opening my thread again.
ICONOMI is launched and listed In Kraken.com exchange for trading.. now there is no any concern about ICN.

I need 4BTC loan for my collateral of 13000 ICN tokens, 1000 Incent token and 400 Decent Tokens.
I need 3 month time to repay my loan.
please someone approve this.

Why did you change the loan amount from 1.3 BTC to 4 BTC?

I would have considered fulfilling this in a few days had you not increased the loan amount.
Increasing the loan amount without providing a reason makes this look very fishy to me.

What do you mean that is no any concern about it?
Of course, there IS a concern. We dont get Collateral to trade it in some exchanger/ trading platform.
Second, all the Alt coins that you offer, is not stable at all. Their prices are different every 5 minutes, up or down... ::)

And for sure, i agree with Atomic. Changing Loan Amount is tricky or fishy.
Especially when someone ask 3BTC more!!!                                                                                                                                                                                                 

Why not just sell your valuable collateral and buy it back after 3months? The fact you are not offering any interest on this, it will be hard for you to get some potential lenders and what will happen if the prices of those coins become less than 3btc in 3months time? Will you just simple go away after you got higher value of amount from your coins? What i mean is, is the collateral value drops in 3months time it will be easy to go away and if those coins value increases you will just simply pay the 3btc and sell your collateral for much higher price once you got it back

LOL get a better translator your the scum w/some lame ass loan excuses. All to which, mean nothing because you just want some $ n run~that's obvious.  Actually, you're looking to dump that via a loan.

Take your little scam circle and try again unless you find a sucker here.  Better yet would be your "buddy" to do this for you.

You and @Atomic please see the collateral also not only the loan amount.. I changed loan amount and I increased my collateral also..
I was offering 5000 ICN for 1.5BTC loan. and now I have 17000 ICN for only 3BTC..

Even if we see the Collateral that you offer, is still less than 20%.
Plus nobody can guarranty that the price of these coins will stay at this price (0.00021-23 atm).

So, in order the Lender to protect his Loan, he will have to set a limit line for liquidate your Collateral and get his money back.
3 months, is a very long time and you didnt mention any interest at all.

Imho, it seems like you want to sell these coins and not get a Loan with them.                                                                                                                                       
Idk, why you want to do this from here... ::)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

I don't knwo why you are acting like so stupid..
I am doing this here it is simple because I do not want to sell my Iconomi tokens. I bought them as a long term investment. but now I got some urgent problem. so I am asking for a loan..

Oh, you dont know? I tell you, np.
Because i am! :P
You are the smart one, i am the stupid, we cant understand each other... ::)

I wish you all the best then, for this Loan Request of yours.
I think you will need it... 8)                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

@OP: I did see the increase in collateral's too but the point that you urgently need a different amount makes this request look fishy.

I am not saying that your a scammer, I am simply saying that others have a point too. Especially Naoko and condoras.

I can fund your loan without interest but I have been burnt in the past for making quick lending decisions so I am extra cautious now.

urgently need is just a accident..
if you know about this thread then you must know. I reached to an agreement of last 1.5BTC loan with a lender.. but I got money from somewhere and I didn't take that loan.. now I re open this thread because I need money again..
you can consider it is a new loan. I m not actually increasing amount. am actually asking for another loan.
BTW. you are obsulotely right in being caution. and thanks at least for one positive comment..
if you think 4BTC is high risk. then tell me how much my collateral worth? I may adjust somehow.
is 3BTC OK? with same collateral?

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't have time to check my PMs for the past few days.

Honestly I don't know much about your collateral, I rarely check altcoin projects recently.


Based on the above quote it looks like condoras has been following these projects so I would prefer an estimated worth of your collateral from him.
I also need to know how long it would take to sell your collateral for its estimated worth in case of a default.


Also remember that even if we aren't able to reach a deal this time feel free to contact me in the future should you have a valid collateral.

Thank you all of you for your positive and negative posts, probably all fudds posted here just to increase their posts to get paid by campaigns... I've didn't get any loan. so I've sold out my collateral and now closing the thread..

Just one thing. never call someone a scammer without any valid reason.. I've never scammed anyone and nor I was thinking to scam and default the loan.