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Title: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 11:43:47 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: franky1 on October 30, 2016, 01:50:24 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? there are many sites like this.. its called bait and switch. offer you one thing. but end up with something else Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Daniel91 on October 30, 2016, 01:59:34 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? I think that such scenario happen many times, unfortunately. I'm sure that we have serial scammers which open HYIP after HYIP, SCAM after SCAM, just with different names and identities. I advice you not to play with HYIP or casinos because 99 % of people loose money there. Only admins and top leaders earn there. When program collapse, admin just change his name, open similar program and start over. I's always the same, scam tactic. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: mrsalve on October 30, 2016, 02:18:56 PM That happens anywhere when any kind of currency is involved.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 02:28:04 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? I think that such scenario happen many times, unfortunately. I'm sure that we have serial scammers which open HYIP after HYIP, SCAM after SCAM, just with different names and identities. I advice you not to play with HYIP or casinos because 99 % of people loose money there. Only admins and top leaders earn there. When program collapse, admin just change his name, open similar program and start over. I's always the same, scam tactic. I know I have lost a lot in hyip. And latest one where we all lost by our greed where a member took btc and paid us 30000-40000 satoshi's per day. He kept paying and suddenly boom gone. Ya I will stay away from casinos thanks. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on October 30, 2016, 03:26:08 PM Yes there are many sites which had same owner and scammed same users several times in different projects. You can see this type of pattern mostly in HYIP and PTC sites, they lure paying for few days and at end they will scam all users and run away with whatever they have collected. Wait few month and develop another ptc/hyip with some modification in project model and again start to lure and this cycle go round and round.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: crairezx20 on October 30, 2016, 04:29:30 PM This is very common practice and this happen in every kind of investment, gambling and online jobs. I think in some other blackhat forums are giving and share this template or the whole script just changing the design and repeating scam every where using bitcoin.. Since you are newbie better to stay away to them..The most common in bitcoin world are HYIP, cloud mining and casino. Also, it becomes easier every day because people sell template website/license for HYIP, ponzi cloud mining or gambling which not too expensive ($100 - $1000 from what i've found). But, because they're very similar, people over time will learn about the truth in hard way. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Juggy777 on October 30, 2016, 05:07:22 PM This is very common practice and this happen in every kind of investment, gambling and online jobs. The most common in bitcoin world are HYIP, cloud mining and casino. Also, it becomes easier every day because people sell template website/license for HYIP, ponzi cloud mining or gambling which not too expensive ($100 - $1000 from what i've found). But, because they're very similar, people over time will learn about the truth in hard way. That's the problem it's always the hard way. We earn money with so much effort and they just steal it. Really hate this kind of guys Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: calkob on October 30, 2016, 05:43:27 PM sometimes scammers will wait a long time to pull of their scam but there is usually red flags, just always keep yuor guard up listen for the warnings
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: BitcoinBarrel on October 30, 2016, 05:45:04 PM If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is!
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: isen on October 30, 2016, 06:08:20 PM Unfortunately yes, scammers are hiding behind anonymity and take advantage of people's greed and ignorance again and again.
You should always do a research before you deposit your money in any site and keep in your mind this rule. If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is! Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: outatime1 on October 30, 2016, 09:44:35 PM I would not be surprised if those kinds of things happen. We already know of large scale scams at sites like mtgox and cryptsy, so there are probably many others as well.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: shinratensei_ on October 31, 2016, 01:20:25 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? there are many sites like this.. its called bait and switch. offer you one thing. but end up with something else Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Kakmakr on October 31, 2016, 05:33:21 AM Some of these site start with good business models, and then they find out that the business model cannot be successful, and it turns to Ponzi type schemes to supplement the income. They might even start with Ponzi type schemes and then turn to legal business models when the site shows good profit. I am talking about some of the early cloud mining sites. It is a pity that the legal sites, also have to close their doors in the end. ^hmmmmm^
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Seansky on October 31, 2016, 05:55:07 AM This scenario happening I think is already happening to bitcoin industry. These sites are what makes bitcoin reputation bad, but these scammers makes their site looks legit at first. Look at the cloud mining sites that scammed many people, at first they were paying good. Then after having many investors trusting them, they ran away with all their funds. In the end, they are just yet another ponzi scheme so don't invest in cloud mining sites.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: xuan87 on October 31, 2016, 06:12:25 AM Yes it is happen in bitcoin, in fact there are more HYIP, ponzi and cloud mining compare to other, they just switch their name and change their site, the one that fall for it usually greedy people and newbie, that is why when ponzi come to this site there are always warning from other people, actually it's the best if this kind of thing can be erased, so the bitcoin reputation will become better
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: ethereumhunter on October 31, 2016, 06:48:59 AM we can see this is happen in bitcoin industry and for your information, this is not just happen in bitcoin industry, because i think with money involve, there is a way for website to scam their member and close the site. but as long as we careful to make an investment or want to make some money, then i think we are safe but that safe is not forever because there are no safety place in internet.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: th3nolo on October 31, 2016, 08:15:21 AM this also happen with every currency, but bitcoin is one of the favorite by scammer, keep it your money away from these business and when you find something interesting to invest please do some research about and use common sense.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Juggy777 on October 31, 2016, 08:21:47 AM this also happen with every currency, but bitcoin is one of the favorite by scammer, keep it your money away from these business and when you find something interesting to invest please do some research about and use common sense. I agree btc is the favorite of scammers. It's very easy to trick them. And mostly it's the greed. They first give small and when amount is big they are gone Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Mastsetad on October 31, 2016, 08:33:43 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Ofcourse that happens, a lot of people start a scam program, earn some bitcoins and then they start a business with that money and while that happening they may repeat the same thing again, it is happening mostly in bitcoin industry though it happens everywhere on internet. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: sonnyacg on November 01, 2016, 03:03:20 AM Yes there are many sites which had same owner and scammed same users several times in different projects. You can see this type of pattern mostly in HYIP and PTC sites, they lure paying for few days and at end they will scam all users and run away with whatever they have collected. Wait few month and develop another ptc/hyip with some modification in project model and again start to lure and this cycle go round and round. yes it is true, most of the cycles and PTC HYIP always swirling continue. today to see the site was still the same, then if it is a fraud then they change the look of their site to be different. but in fact they are still the same as before. I see most of them is the most onwards is always a scam.Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: sulendra12 on November 01, 2016, 11:05:49 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? In the internet , you can make anything like HYIP , PTC , and other source of income . The process is easy as hell , just copy the script and do some configuration you'll go with it (Never did it before , and don't try it >:( ) . After they reached the Goal , they would start to closed their business and run away with the members money and the worst case is using bitcoin as the payment gateway (irreversible currency).This isn't only a speculation , but it has lot of proofs to validate this . So , be aware with the "unusual" site you meet. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: tabas on November 01, 2016, 11:34:35 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Surely it is already happen in the bitcoin industry and many greedy people who are doing this to fool people and just for them to benefit from other people's money. So be cautious and I think you are still new in bitcoin industry and thinks that this is just new, so be careful and don't ever try to interact those websites or else you'll suffer. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: BlackPanda on November 01, 2016, 12:11:26 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? It could happen. has a lot of websites that originally paid and reliable, in the end they ran away with bitcoin bring all that we have. bitcoin investment in the world is quite risky. all systems are anonymouse.Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Tyrantt on November 01, 2016, 12:15:39 PM this also happen with every currency, but bitcoin is one of the favorite by scammer, keep it your money away from these business and when you find something interesting to invest please do some research about and use common sense. I agree btc is the favorite of scammers. It's very easy to trick them. And mostly it's the greed. They first give small and when amount is big they are gone Well some people dont view bitcoin as a currency just like fiat in some ways but some magical thing, so they dont think as much when investing it into some shady websites, also right now everone would like to earn something while doing nothing so many users decide on investing in various websites that offer good daily income or something like that. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on November 01, 2016, 01:22:42 PM this also happen with every currency, but bitcoin is one of the favorite by scammer, keep it your money away from these business and when you find something interesting to invest please do some research about and use common sense. I agree btc is the favorite of scammers. It's very easy to trick them. And mostly it's the greed. They first give small and when amount is big they are gone Well some people dont view bitcoin as a currency just like fiat in some ways but some magical thing, so they dont think as much when investing it into some shady websites, also right now everone would like to earn something while doing nothing so many users decide on investing in various websites that offer good daily income or something like that. This is typically person who too lazy doing nothing but also greedy to earn bitcoin, this is very common found people like this and some few people haven't consider if the site is scam obviously until the site shut down. Don't feed scammer please. But not all bitcoin industry turn into scam scheme. Research and dig deeper before dealing with. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: StarofBTC on November 02, 2016, 04:45:22 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? In the internet , you can make anything like HYIP , PTC , and other source of income . The process is easy as hell , just copy the script and do some configuration you'll go with it (Never did it before , and don't try it >:( ) . After they reached the Goal , they would start to closed their business and run away with the members money and the worst case is using bitcoin as the payment gateway (irreversible currency).This isn't only a speculation , but it has lot of proofs to validate this . So , be aware with the "unusual" site you meet. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: MONKEYJUNK on November 02, 2016, 04:48:25 PM That happens anywhere when any kind of currency is involved. Yes however bitcoin have a lot of scammers, or just a lot of dumb people, because the anonnymous thing, so it's hard to know the scamer and he will have a nice life with your money... Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Robertqueen2 on November 02, 2016, 05:13:57 PM Regarding HYIP sites, they look attractive to investors when they give you 150% or 130% after one day. Unfortunately, all investors in those HYIP sites know that those sites will stop paying sooner or later, but some people like the risky investments.
Better to stay away from them. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: winspiral on November 02, 2016, 05:19:49 PM People do see only scam...
Even if scam does not exist. It is almost impossible nawadays to offer a satoshi...as soon you propose ...you are taken for a scammer... people should here more talk about honnest sites and not spend so much energy for "supposed" scam sites. Here you can only read all the day:all is scam. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: tee-rex on November 02, 2016, 05:58:34 PM Some of these site start with good business models, and then they find out that the business model cannot be successful, and it turns to Ponzi type schemes to supplement the income. They might even start with Ponzi type schemes and then turn to legal business models when the site shows good profit. I am talking about some of the early cloud mining sites. It is a pity that the legal sites, also have to close their doors in the end. ^hmmmmm^ I think this is a very rare case really when real businesses turn into scams and still more rare, if not completely impossible, for scams to become a good business. You need to have a special psychological traits to become a successful scammer, or just a scammer, for that matter, and you will always be like that. In my opinion, if a business turns out to be a failure, people behind it will just close it and switch to something else. Most likely, you talk about purportedly "good" businesses that were deliberate scams right from the start. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: prabowo96 on November 02, 2016, 06:16:52 PM People do see only scam... Even if scam does not exist. It is almost impossible nawadays to offer a satoshi...as soon you propose ...you are taken for a scammer... people should here more talk about honnest sites and not spend so much energy for "supposed" scam sites. Here you can only read all the day:all is scam. Prevention is better than a cure... At least people are asking theirselves about it, and not just putting more throw the air. Bitcoin comunity have a lot of scamers, it's like the currency of scam. Sites asking for you money? Obviously a bad idea. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: jak3 on November 02, 2016, 06:24:26 PM i don't exactly know that is there such type of sites exists or not in bitcoin network but i am sure about onevthing thatscammers try every possible way to scam and pay as much as they can so people can trust they and put more money in here scheam
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Milkduds on November 02, 2016, 06:28:45 PM If you are not watching what you click you need to get more paranoid about how you conduct business on the net.
Its far to easy for sites to pretend to be something they are not to establish a connection to you and rope you in. Quite often I notice when I google that some new site is at the head of the search after months/years of one site being the only option. It happens enough to watch every google search you make for a familiar site you have not bookmarked. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on November 02, 2016, 06:49:16 PM It is happening to in bitcoin everything online or offline many people are scam if you dont know how to get rid for those scammer you can be victim.
So first you do research about the site and check their review but sometimes the reviews was not true so better to check and research first and ask by many people. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Adamsmit556 on November 02, 2016, 07:55:17 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Yes, this happens in every business industry and even in every day life over and over again, bitcoin is not an exception. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Seeker#9 on December 20, 2016, 07:59:25 AM Despite repeated warnings by concerned netizens, many online people continues to patronized hyip and other investment scam that offers get rich quick schemes.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Kakmakr on December 20, 2016, 08:27:03 AM Despite repeated warnings by concerned netizens, many online people continues to patronized hyip and other investment scam that offers get rich quick schemes. This is a typical example, http://www.badbitcoin.org/ where we provide the tools for people to determine in advance if the site is a scam or a hype and even with prior warning or even just a little bit of research <Google > they would not have lost any money. I guess greed clouds people's sound judgement. Next time you want to invest in one of these shady operations, just use Google first, you would be amazed at how usefull it can be. ^sarcasm^ Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Sled on December 20, 2016, 08:45:52 AM Despite repeated warnings by concerned netizens, many online people continues to patronized hyip and other investment scam that offers get rich quick schemes. Yes that is right, Still, many bitcoin users still invest on those different kind of hyips or investment sites that offers a big return or get rich fast schemes. In my opinion, we, bitcoin users should research first and try to figure out how to use different search engine sites and always use those different informations that came from to search engines as a basis on deciding to invest or not. We don't need to listen to the people who promotes those HYIPs because they all want is commissions or referrals which can give them bigger returns, don't listen to their flowery words about the HYIP site. Do your own research and try to figure out by yourself if that investment site is worth it or not. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: btcdiggingmaster on December 20, 2016, 08:50:49 AM There are lot more site daily being launched many scam people, but no one know who is behind with these sites but once every one identify those no one will join those sites. Not only single site many people are launching 2 are 3 sites simultaneously once they make profit with one site they will close down the site, they will run the other two site with the profit made by them until they get from those 2 sites also. Very Disgusting.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: davis196 on December 20, 2016, 11:34:39 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? This is a pretty old school scam method and scammers still use it to cheat. :( I don`t know about popular bitcoin casinos and dice sites which use this trick. Maybe because of the small btc community sooner or later the scammer will be revealed. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Xester on December 20, 2016, 11:59:15 AM That is not a speculation but a truth and a trend that is constantly occurring online. They are offering huge returns on investment in such a short time. Most of the victims are the newbies who are inexperienced. I remembered the times back when I fall into the trap of scam sites.
Today they disguise as crowdfunding site, networking, mining and almost any kind of site. So to avoid them make sure to do the research before investing. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: deadsilent on December 20, 2016, 12:51:46 PM That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: winspiral on December 20, 2016, 12:56:35 PM That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop. you are 200% right If people can not recognize honest sites,it is normal they can not recognize scam sites. This is logic use by scammers: It you can not see what is right you can not see what is wrong... believe an old fox (lol) Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Wandering Soul~ on December 20, 2016, 01:25:22 PM Yes it is and no currency is exempted, every kind of currency might experience that kind of scheme. That is why we should research throughly on what site we are going to invest our money. Better avoid the Cloud Mining/HYIP/PONZI/Pyramid ones.
In some cases, When a HYIP site is newly established it will pay for the first weeks and after collecting the desired amount, the site will close along the money of its investors Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: RoommateAgreement on December 20, 2016, 01:27:07 PM That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop. you are 200% right If people can not recognize honest sites,it is normal they can not recognize scam sites. This is logic use by scammers: It you can not see what is right you can not see what is wrong... believe an old fox (lol) actually people recognize scams or even shady businesses from legit ones easily if they use their brain for a moment. that is why your website is not getting enough people' becasue it is shady you have failed to explain it in order to clear the air. you already have 4000+ posts but not a single one of them is a clear explanation! and meanwhile you insist on not being scam everywhere on the forum! Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Vaskiy on December 20, 2016, 01:32:12 PM This has been found in all sectors not only in online websites. Another thing is that it's truly hard to differentiate the legit from the scam as legit websites were the controllers. Also this makes the scam data managing service providers not able to make perfect data to support users stay away from scams.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Achargeturry78 on December 20, 2016, 01:35:52 PM That is not a speculation but a truth and a trend that is constantly occurring online. They are offering huge returns on investment in such a short time. Most of the victims are the newbies who are inexperienced. I remembered the times back when I fall into the trap of scam sites. I don't see that this is not speculation people want to know when the bitcoin will increase and they predicting it they expecting that bitcoin will be trend and will it be spike and will be constantly occuring the market. I don't really believe this kind of investment site are offering huge return of investment they are trying to fool you out people mostly newbie are the target of investment sites , i should say that just wait for the spike happen then.Today they disguise as crowdfunding site, networking, mining and almost any kind of site. So to avoid them make sure to do the research before investing. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: YuginKadoya on December 20, 2016, 01:46:43 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? That is just what other people do they will make a site that has put the content over the site then if you visited it and tried it out it end up to be just a fraud, they will just put up some bait that people now a days have been searching for then put up a content that does not really involve the topic you want sometime they are using ads and survey question for their own gain the worst is to required the visitor to put some money or bitcoin so they can download or view the content! Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: burner2014 on December 20, 2016, 03:03:58 PM A lot of hyip in internet that has different offers, I never had the chance to try it. I just don't believe it and as doing some research other said that it is just a scam as well as my friend told me too that they were just a good payer during their first year or less and after that they will just say that there system is down and that's it.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: maydna on December 20, 2016, 03:15:04 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? yes and of course this is happen in the bitcoin industry as we can see the website that offer this services which is known with HYIP but for the deposit and withdraw, that site is using bitcoin and not money/fiat. if you don't be careful, you might have to get scammed by that site, because their slogans is first come, first profit. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: nara1892 on December 20, 2016, 03:58:55 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? I think that such scenario happen many times, unfortunately. I'm sure that we have serial scammers which open HYIP after HYIP, SCAM after SCAM, just with different names and identities. I advice you not to play with HYIP or casinos because 99 % of people loose money there. Only admins and top leaders earn there. When program collapse, admin just change his name, open similar program and start over. I's always the same, scam tactic. that is true. a few people get profit from scamming the others. so it is not a speculation, it happens. just be careful when you use your money. do not once gamble, trust HYIP or kind of thing because some people lose much than earn. that's why I am never into any gambling sites. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Juggy777 on December 20, 2016, 04:30:51 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? I think that such scenario happen many times, unfortunately. I'm sure that we have serial scammers which open HYIP after HYIP, SCAM after SCAM, just with different names and identities. I advice you not to play with HYIP or casinos because 99 % of people loose money there. Only admins and top leaders earn there. When program collapse, admin just change his name, open similar program and start over. I's always the same, scam tactic. that is true. a few people get profit from scamming the others. so it is not a speculation, it happens. just be careful when you use your money. do not once gamble, trust HYIP or kind of thing because some people lose much than earn. that's why I am never into any gambling sites. Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: CyberKuro on December 20, 2016, 04:33:21 PM Yes there are many sites which had same owner and scammed same users several times in different projects. You can see this type of pattern mostly in HYIP and PTC sites, they lure paying for few days and at end they will scam all users and run away with whatever they have collected. Wait few month and develop another ptc/hyip with some modification in project model and again start to lure and this cycle go round and round. The scam sites always seems quite different but behind the project it's all the same, frauds.Learn the pattern, they cover up with sweet promises and easy profits every week/month. Well, it's not so easy to recognize them if the sites has going for a long time, like 6 months or 1 year. Just be cautious to invest your money everywhere, even on the trusted sites you could lose it all. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: chaser15 on December 20, 2016, 04:39:11 PM Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them. There will be no scammer if there's no people will eat the bait. What is the problem here? Not because people especially the new one didn't know a certain is a scam one but some people are lazy to do work. They want to earned fast money in a passive way. That kind of traits are easily get being attracted by those hyip sites and will turned those sites into a legit one in a lazy person's mind. Common sense sometimes must be used regularly. Also worked to earned not to sit to earned. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: iram3130 on December 20, 2016, 05:10:00 PM Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them. There will be no scammer if there's no people will eat the bait. What is the problem here? Not because people especially the new one didn't know a certain is a scam one but some people are lazy to do work. They want to earned fast money in a passive way. That kind of traits are easily get being attracted by those hyip sites and will turned those sites into a legit one in a lazy person's mind. Common sense sometimes must be used regularly. Also worked to earned not to sit to earned. Definitely true. When the mind is empty and the person is lazy then they won't be trying to work actively. They will always try for passive income and scammers bait for those guys. And yes the people need to understand and verify which is honest and which is a scam. Then only the percentage of scamming will get low. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Juggy777 on December 21, 2016, 04:01:47 AM Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them. There will be no scammer if there's no people will eat the bait. What is the problem here? Not because people especially the new one didn't know a certain is a scam one but some people are lazy to do work. They want to earned fast money in a passive way. That kind of traits are easily get being attracted by those hyip sites and will turned those sites into a legit one in a lazy person's mind. Common sense sometimes must be used regularly. Also worked to earned not to sit to earned. Definitely true. When the mind is empty and the person is lazy then they won't be trying to work actively. They will always try for passive income and scammers bait for those guys. And yes the people need to understand and verify which is honest and which is a scam. Then only the percentage of scamming will get low. True 100% true, when I was new in this online money making online, all I wanted was to make a quick bucks and I actually believed I could. The way they showed it, I mean the way they baited me. I never really researched just went on loosing, till I finally realized had to read more and then understood the scams. Now I am able to spot a scam and warn people, though next time I will quote your words, bang on point. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: densuj on December 21, 2016, 04:53:31 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Many websites are like you said on bitcoin too, and they have gone with bitcoins their users.Usually HYIP's website and the mostly fake cloud mining service without really mining. It has been happening on bitcoin industry too, and it had made bad impact on bitcoin. Because of the scam using bitcoins had made the people doesn't believe in bitcoins for the people who don't too understand about bitcoins. And it maded bitcoin becoming victim be blamed because of scam using bitcoins. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: chesatochi on December 21, 2016, 11:09:55 AM Ya some lessons are learnt hard. I have totally avoided hyip, though earlier I used to invest a lot and loose a lot. But finally have decided to give up on hyip. I do yet gamble on dice sites but that also I am reducing now cause of the looses. It's a pain this scammers they cheat us of our hard earned money and then come back hate them. There will be no scammer if there's no people will eat the bait. What is the problem here? Not because people especially the new one didn't know a certain is a scam one but some people are lazy to do work. They want to earned fast money in a passive way. That kind of traits are easily get being attracted by those hyip sites and will turned those sites into a legit one in a lazy person's mind. Common sense sometimes must be used regularly. Also worked to earned not to sit to earned. Definitely true. When the mind is empty and the person is lazy then they won't be trying to work actively. They will always try for passive income and scammers bait for those guys. And yes the people need to understand and verify which is honest and which is a scam. Then only the percentage of scamming will get low. True 100% true, when I was new in this online money making online, all I wanted was to make a quick bucks and I actually believed I could. The way they showed it, I mean the way they baited me. I never really researched just went on loosing, till I finally realized had to read more and then understood the scams. Now I am able to spot a scam and warn people, though next time I will quote your words, bang on point. I got scammed myself because I was looking to make money online and those sites promise you that you will double or make a decent profit. What I learned the hard way is you need to do your due diligence before investing on any sites, look for reviews and find the legitimate one. Even in the bitcoin world, the scammers are here with their online cloud mining :( Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: PYramid Head on December 21, 2016, 11:15:01 AM Bitcoin is kinda anonymous, more than likely it happens, and we may have very trusted members doing this, and we might never know.
But to accuse evidence is needed, what can be hard to get sometimes Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: 20kevin20 on December 21, 2016, 12:34:29 PM There are many websites like these. A thief won't stop after its first crime, they need more and more money every time so they go for bigger scams. I doubt these guys even get their site "hacked", it's just another reason to run away with the money with this excuse. After they close one website, they open a better looking one to attract more people and they go on with the scams. Never keep your funds in any website.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: posternat on December 24, 2016, 06:24:22 PM That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop. Yes, this is right, it is your choice, scamming is hard to figure out specially when you were hooked with their offers. Need to keep your eyes and mind open so that Scam dont hit you. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Tipsters on December 24, 2016, 09:13:21 PM I've a lot rumors about this too on a gambling site from where i play. Most of them are owner of sites and High Roller gambler. But from what I've heard they rather make investment sites than a casino site since it easier to do and less expensive. Still there's a lot of people being scam by these site especially newbies.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: error08 on December 24, 2016, 10:57:06 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? It's true and many users had scammed, this is one problem in bitcoin trust and security. We have to do some research before join in such sites, who's the devs team (man behind the project). Easier if they have good reputation, if they haven't then be cautious to deposit so much, just a little bit that you could afford to lose it is safer. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: ufaiz50 on December 24, 2016, 11:35:00 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? I remembered what happened at mining sites (HYIP) HashProfit (HP) when people invest there *lol* hashprofit closed and finally scam, and now renamed .... :D :DTitle: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: posternat on December 25, 2016, 08:19:56 AM That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop. Just be wise, scan everything before trusting them, read some feedbacks regarding the sites and make some public conversation like some site doing in this forum.. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: oktana on December 25, 2016, 08:41:39 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? It's true and many users had scammed, this is one problem in bitcoin trust and security. We have to do some research before join in such sites, who's the devs team (man behind the project). Easier if they have good reputation, if they haven't then be cautious to deposit so much, just a little bit that you could afford to lose it is safer. A trustworthy company is not immune from scam, it is pure market speculation. There should be a system of escrow or breakthrough that oversees it. As long as there is no punishment, these companies will just change the name and office with almost the same system. For now we can only predict the return on investment, if successful, we were lucky. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Zadicar on December 25, 2016, 09:05:09 AM That really happen often. Its up to you if you choose to trust them or not. Hyip sites is prone to scamming since its very easy to create a new one. Once they get the funds that you give to them. They will gone together with your money and they start a new one. They will do this over and over. Until theres a lot of idiot there who trust them. Scamming incidents will never stop. Just be wise, scan everything before trusting them, read some feedbacks regarding the sites and make some public conversation like some site doing in this forum.. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: raven7886 on December 25, 2016, 07:24:41 PM Of course where there is money there is greed and there is scam, scamming especially in bitcoin is very easy I myself had a problem with this , a while ago I have tried to invest some of my btc into some cloud mining everything seemed fine the site was legit at first people were joining in and investing as well until one day the owner disappeared with huge amount of money , you probably know the site it was called Hash Ocean.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: BingoDog on December 25, 2016, 07:38:54 PM Of course where there is money there is greed and there is scam, scamming especially in bitcoin is very easy I myself had a problem with this , a while ago I have tried to invest some of my btc into some cloud mining everything seemed fine the site was legit at first people were joining in and investing as well until one day the owner disappeared with huge amount of money , you probably know the site it was called Hash Ocean. You are right bitcoin is especialy convenient for different kind of scams because scammers are often very hard to trace and identify. Cloud mining sites could be especialy dangerous I can't remember any of them that is legit and where people haven't lost their money. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: merchantofzeny on December 25, 2016, 07:49:13 PM I've just read the first page of the thread. So are there no legit casinos out there? The only one I've played was bitvest.io (first time I heard of .io). I don't bits then but managed to play using their tokens. Only stopped when i realized I'd need to accumulate 200,000 tokens to convert it to satoshis to cash out. :D It was fun though.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: d@nte on December 25, 2016, 08:16:57 PM Of course where there is money there is greed and there is scam, scamming especially in bitcoin is very easy I myself had a problem with this , a while ago I have tried to invest some of my btc into some cloud mining everything seemed fine the site was legit at first people were joining in and investing as well until one day the owner disappeared with huge amount of money , you probably know the site it was called Hash Ocean. You are right bitcoin is especialy convenient for different kind of scams because scammers are often very hard to trace and identify. Cloud mining sites could be especialy dangerous I can't remember any of them that is legit and where people haven't lost their money. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: rapazev on December 25, 2016, 10:19:55 PM this happens all the time in bitcoin world..
all these websites claim to pay interest every day are ponzi schemes. Most cloud mining services are ponzi schemes. People need to understand there's no "free money". if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: hurain on December 25, 2016, 11:15:04 PM Of course where there is money there is greed and there is scam, scamming especially in bitcoin is very easy I myself had a problem with this , a while ago I have tried to invest some of my btc into some cloud mining everything seemed fine the site was legit at first people were joining in and investing as well until one day the owner disappeared with huge amount of money , you probably know the site it was called Hash Ocean. that is very bad, in fact we have a lot of such problems, and these must be solve if we want to have good future of bitcoin, as once people become scam then the never like to invest again a big amount even in a trusted site, therefore we need to overcome these weakness in priority basis. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Tanic on December 25, 2016, 11:45:59 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? there are many sites like this.. its called bait and switch. offer you one thing. but end up with something else I also heard that everybody have to be very careful with using that kind of sites that ask for private information. On the net it happens almost every day, one day the site works and everything is ok, but another it's not exist anymore and you are in panic. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: susila_bai on December 25, 2016, 11:50:57 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? there are many sites like this.. its called bait and switch. offer you one thing. but end up with something else I also heard that everybody have to be very careful with using that kind of sites that ask for private information. On the net it happens almost every day, one day the site works and everything is ok, but another it's not exist anymore and you are in panic. The sites which are giving you all types of false commitments of high income are the sites which are going like this and even when their are lot of thread alarming about this type of scam their are users who are getting scammed by this type of hyip schemes in greedy of getting high returns and end up in loss. So it is natural in all types of ways the scammer are operating Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: shinratensei_ on December 26, 2016, 12:19:50 AM this happens all the time in bitcoin world.. It's happening but with a little percentage and not all of the kind of bitcoin site(mostly HYIP and CM). And a lot of the reliable site news at the past time turned into the shady caused by that reason. all these websites claim to pay interest every day are ponzi schemes. Most cloud mining services are ponzi schemes. People need to understand there's no "free money". if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: deadsilent on December 26, 2016, 01:29:02 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: burner2014 on December 26, 2016, 01:50:30 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.Before I joined bitcoin I once a victim of scam also and thinking that bitcoin is just scam but proven that there are just sites who are just offering big money. Lesson learned for me. Hope everyone to be vigilant always think twice before joining and research well. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Kray on December 26, 2016, 02:22:21 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? It's true and happened everywhere. Just carefull with this kind of sites Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Xester on December 26, 2016, 03:23:56 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.Before I joined bitcoin I once a victim of scam also and thinking that bitcoin is just scam but proven that there are just sites who are just offering big money. Lesson learned for me. Hope everyone to be vigilant always think twice before joining and research well. Even if we do our research, even the high trust rating will scam or disappear sooner or later. I just remembered hashocean and minutebtc they gain high trust ratings and stay for a year before they scam people collecting millions if money. I also tried the safest investment sites according to some reviews but the income is very poor and you cannot take back your capital. The only thing to earn today is just to hold your bitcoins and wait for an inflation. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: burner2014 on December 26, 2016, 03:29:14 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.Before I joined bitcoin I once a victim of scam also and thinking that bitcoin is just scam but proven that there are just sites who are just offering big money. Lesson learned for me. Hope everyone to be vigilant always think twice before joining and research well. Even if we do our research, even the high trust rating will scam or disappear sooner or later. I just remembered hashocean and minutebtc they gain high trust ratings and stay for a year before they scam people collecting millions if money. I also tried the safest investment sites according to some reviews but the income is very poor and you cannot take back your capital. The only thing to earn today is just to hold your bitcoins and wait for an inflation. I don't trust any investment sites for now, I have already trauma with them, I am happy with my earnings now. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: kidoseagle0312 on December 26, 2016, 05:02:45 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Natalim on December 26, 2016, 06:40:31 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Pursuer on December 26, 2016, 07:20:31 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want. to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable. all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: tee-rex on December 26, 2016, 02:38:23 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want. to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable. all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning. It worked in the past with real world scams and pyramid schemes because they required a lot of effort and initial investment to start up the whole business. That's the reason why first "investors" could actually earn something through them, else the operators would be at a loss if they ran away with their money without delay. Today you don't need a lot of investment, and you can close the business in a matter of a few days, after receiving some money. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Kolder on December 26, 2016, 02:44:30 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want. to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable. all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning. It worked in the past with real world scams and pyramid schemes because they required a lot of effort and initial investment to start up the whole business. That's the reason why first "investors" could actually earn something through them, else the operators would be at a loss if they ran away with their money without delay. Today you don't need a lot of investment, and you can close the business in a matter of a few days, after receiving some money. It really happens before but now ,in new generation people were more smarter we think most of the time if its scam or not because it is the trend the story of getting scam. Now we learned already our lesson to research before doing. In this way we can avoid getting scam. And be profitable in investing. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Juggy777 on December 26, 2016, 02:48:45 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want. to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable. all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning. It worked in the past with real world scams and pyramid schemes because they required a lot of effort and initial investment to start up the whole business. That's the reason why first "investors" could actually earn something through them, else the operators would be at a loss if they ran away with their money without delay. Today you don't need a lot of investment, and you can close the business in a matter of a few days, after receiving some money. It really happens before but now ,in new generation people were more smarter we think most of the time if its scam or not because it is the trend the story of getting scam. Now we learned already our lesson to research before doing. In this way we can avoid getting scam. And be profitable in investing. Agreed earlier it was very easy to scam use the same tried method and people really had no means to be aware but now thanks to alert people and the same boring methoda we can spot a scam and stay clear of it. But try as you much this guy's succeed with the newbies the most. They easily fall for it. Though every one trying to help but newbies really need to be cautious. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: danherbias07 on December 26, 2016, 02:49:43 PM That is not new when you have experience this kind of cases. It also goes with bitcoin and actually there are more of like that here. The definition of money in just a different name would really attract those who want to create something like that.
Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Farma on December 26, 2016, 03:06:48 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well, I also feel a lot of sites like it, so you should prepare for the worst of all possibilities, and to be good at picking up the opportunity. basically the site as it always provide a fee at the beginning of the opening of the site, however, will end the scam within a certain time. Well, I guess in a way that is how they make money. so you have to take risks for it.Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: justdimin on December 26, 2016, 06:51:43 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: tee-rex on December 27, 2016, 10:12:11 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want. Greed makes people lose control and common sense. And it is applicable not only to newbies. A lot of people who are well experienced on the whole also fall victim to such schemes sometimes. It is mostly a matter of finding the right approach to a certain individual and making him believe in the reliability and profitability of a scam enterprise. Investors are such people by their nature simply because they have to believe in the success of their investments. Bitcoin itself is an example of that where a good deal of blind trust in its future is required. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: lOvE mE forEvEr on December 27, 2016, 01:41:07 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? We must see from the others side, true or speculation. For me this is true and fact. If this is purely speculation of course no one believe and put their money.Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: BitFinnese on December 27, 2016, 01:53:34 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want. People make this system as means of their living or earning. Even though this kind of system is very dangerous there are lots of people often see this thing a quick money grab. Companies are keep on establishing this kind of model because there are lots of people patronizing this scheme even though it makes other people loses their money or company shutsdown in the long run. Unless people stop supporting this kind of money game, Company will never ceased to exist and prey on their victim. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: al0729 on December 27, 2016, 02:47:26 PM theres so many sites like that , theres no forever in bitcoin HAHAHA
\ Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: vasrasus on December 27, 2016, 11:32:36 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.In real life this is happening and in bitcoin industry this is not even a new thing. That's why we just need to learn from our own experiences and as well as others. Only those newbies are just becoming victims of those schemes because of their want to have a fast income which they really don't have an idea that those are just scams. So research before doing anything ,scammers were everywhere. We can't please them so we need to be more intelligent on deciding. Only those scammers I think is the problem of bitcoin . Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: senyorito123 on December 27, 2016, 11:49:20 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: 20kevin20 on December 28, 2016, 12:17:47 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run. They are here because they know nothing can happen to them. Bitcoin doesn't appear in the laws or Constitution, so we can do anything we want. There were many cases in which the FBI or so didn't know how to find them, so the chances of finding that guy is close to 0. I'm always skeptical when it comes to these kinds of websites. Always read reviews. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on December 28, 2016, 12:40:32 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run. and every HYIP have different timing so, hit and run method is not really effective on this case Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Gleb Gamow on December 28, 2016, 01:15:18 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? The following depicts my take as to why this tread with its grammatically incorrect OP was created: It is already easy to spend BTC. It is becoming easier to buy and sell BTC. Fiver and freelance is not that easy to earn, it really requires luck and effort to earn it. I would suggest signature campaign as a far more effective method rest i feel are slow or difficult to earn. So I think you should add signature campaign also. Rest is faucet site and get few, 100 refs then only one can earn. To close the cycle and have a real Bitcoin economy we really need some way for millions of people to be able to earn BTC. Thankfully there is a simple way to achieve that: https://www.fiverr.com/ millions of gigs, already takes Bitcoin for funding (via Coinbase) https://www.uber.com Over 1 million drivers worldwide (works with Braintree/Paypal) https://www.airbnb.com/ 34.000 cities, over 1 million listings (works with Braintree/Paypal) https://www.freelancer.com/ 15 million users. 8 million projects. (works with Paypal) The follow is my take as to why this thread with its grammatically incorrect OP was created. If we can get just these 4 to do Bitcoin payouts for contractors, it will give access to millions worldwide to earning BTC. Anyone with a house, a car or able to work will be able to #EarnBitcoin. The payment processors are already in contact with these companies and have been offering the option to receive Bitcoin payments... how hard can it be to offer the option of Bitcoin withdrawals/payouts? Question: How many Juggy777 sockpuppets do you think commented in this thread? My educated guess is no less than four, thus at least five accounts making bank for one person via starting, then commenting on contrived threads. Madness! Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: Shiroslullaby on December 28, 2016, 01:35:42 AM Of course there are scam sites, and there may be some run by operators of legitimate sites.
All you need is basic skills to make a decent looking website, and either get ranking up or pay for traffic to increase your search results, and eventually you will get some users signing up. Its so cheap to host a website these days, you only need to scam a few users and you will make money. Bitcoin has a lot of new users and its hard to know who to trust. Since we still rely on third parties to convert fiat to and from Bitcoin, there is a risk of getting scammed if you don't deal with a reputable company. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: The_Dark_Knight on December 28, 2016, 01:53:42 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? I don’t see why it may not happen but if an established casino to try that it could be its ruin if it was ever found out they were doing scams, people will lose faith in that casino immediately and no one will play there anymore, since bitcoin casinos are so successful I don't think they need to pull such a dirty move.Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: mrcash02 on December 28, 2016, 01:56:37 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run. They are here because they know nothing can happen to them. Bitcoin doesn't appear in the laws or Constitution, so we can do anything we want. There were many cases in which the FBI or so didn't know how to find them, so the chances of finding that guy is close to 0. I'm always skeptical when it comes to these kinds of websites. Always read reviews. This is a free world, everyone uses his own "free will" to make choices and have consequences. I think this way is the most correct to live. Every choice has a consequence and we can learn from our mistakes. That is what happen when you invest in HYIP and Ponzi schemes. Sooner or later everyone learns that it's impossible to make profit with this kind of deal. You can have luck and make profit with one HYIP, but on long term it won't work. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: bubbaj on December 28, 2016, 02:12:23 AM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run. They are here because they know nothing can happen to them. Bitcoin doesn't appear in the laws or Constitution, so we can do anything we want. There were many cases in which the FBI or so didn't know how to find them, so the chances of finding that guy is close to 0. I'm always skeptical when it comes to these kinds of websites. Always read reviews. This is a free world, everyone uses his own "free will" to make choices and have consequences. I think this way is the most correct to live. Every choice has a consequence and we can learn from our mistakes. That is what happen when you invest in HYIP and Ponzi schemes. Sooner or later everyone learns that it's impossible to make profit with this kind of deal. You can have luck and make profit with one HYIP, but on long term it won't work. This is why BTC will never be main stream as it is hard to track and is easy to scam a person out of. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: katrimans on December 29, 2016, 08:40:34 PM People make this system as means of their living or earning. Even though this kind of system is very dangerous there are lots of people often see this thing a quick money grab. Companies are keep on establishing this kind of model because there are lots of people patronizing this scheme even though it makes other people loses their money or company shutsdown in the long run. Unless people stop supporting this kind of money game, Company will never ceased to exist and prey on their victim. Many companies have used this system, I have come across a model of these ones that provide a good investment opportunity, they get the funding they roll out a few payments so they could gain the trust of the people, and then simply walk away with the money, a company called Hash Ocean has done this before, it was a cloud mining project and the founder got greedy and walked away with a fortune.Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: rababo on December 30, 2016, 01:35:25 PM There are many sites like those, and those sites mostly use bitcoin for payment because it's hard to trace. Their victims are people who want to make easy money and people who just start in bitcoin.
So, be aware to that kind of sites. You won't get money from those sites, it's only ripe your money off. Title: Re: Is this true or a speculation Post by: tee-rex on December 30, 2016, 02:38:02 PM Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens? Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run. They are here because they know nothing can happen to them. Bitcoin doesn't appear in the laws or Constitution, so we can do anything we want. There were many cases in which the FBI or so didn't know how to find them, so the chances of finding that guy is close to 0. I'm always skeptical when it comes to these kinds of websites. Always read reviews. This is a free world, everyone uses his own "free will" to make choices and have consequences. I think this way is the most correct to live. Every choice has a consequence and we can learn from our mistakes. That is what happen when you invest in HYIP and Ponzi schemes. Sooner or later everyone learns that it's impossible to make profit with this kind of deal. You can have luck and make profit with one HYIP, but on long term it won't work. So if it is a free choice of everyone and their responsibility to face the consequences as you say. But it also means that everyone is basically free to scam on their neighbor, and they shouldn't face any legal consequences for doing so. I'm more than sure that these scams and HYIPs include a point in their terms that they don't give any guarantees "explicit or implicit" as well as decline any responsibility for the possible loss of money. |