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December 26, 2016, 03:23:56 AM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers  are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.
We can't really please everyone, especially for those greedy in money, who are not contented in what they have.
Before I joined bitcoin I once a victim of scam also and thinking that bitcoin is just scam but proven that there are just sites who are just offering big money. Lesson learned for me. Hope everyone to be vigilant always think twice before joining and research well.

Even if we do our research, even the high trust rating will scam or disappear sooner or later. I just remembered hashocean and minutebtc they gain high trust ratings and stay for a year before they scam people collecting millions if money. I also tried the safest investment sites according to some reviews but the income is very poor and you cannot take back your capital. The only thing to earn today is just to hold your bitcoins and wait for an inflation.
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December 26, 2016, 03:29:14 AM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers  are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.
We can't really please everyone, especially for those greedy in money, who are not contented in what they have.
Before I joined bitcoin I once a victim of scam also and thinking that bitcoin is just scam but proven that there are just sites who are just offering big money. Lesson learned for me. Hope everyone to be vigilant always think twice before joining and research well.

Even if we do our research, even the high trust rating will scam or disappear sooner or later. I just remembered hashocean and minutebtc they gain high trust ratings and stay for a year before they scam people collecting millions if money. I also tried the safest investment sites according to some reviews but the income is very poor and you cannot take back your capital. The only thing to earn today is just to hold your bitcoins and wait for an inflation.
Great. That is what in my mind also I don't go to investment sites but rather do trading even in small amount, and I'll take a hold in my bitcoin from now on and wait for its value for the next two years before I withdraw it.
I don't trust any investment sites for now, I have already trauma with them, I am happy with my earnings now.
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December 26, 2016, 05:02:45 AM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?


Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
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December 26, 2016, 06:40:31 AM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.

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December 26, 2016, 07:20:31 AM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.

to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable.

all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning.

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December 26, 2016, 02:38:23 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.

to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable.

all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning.

It worked in the past with real world scams and pyramid schemes because they required a lot of effort and initial investment to start up the whole business. That's the reason why first "investors" could actually earn something through them, else the operators would be at a loss if they ran away with their money without delay. Today you don't need a lot of investment, and you can close the business in a matter of a few days, after receiving some money.
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December 26, 2016, 02:44:30 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.

to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable.

all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning.

It worked in the past with real world scams and pyramid schemes because they required a lot of effort and initial investment to start up the whole business. That's the reason why first "investors" could actually earn something through them, else the operators would be at a loss if they ran away with their money without delay. Today you don't need a lot of investment, and you can close the business in a matter of a few days, after receiving some money.


It really happens before but now ,in new generation people were more smarter we think most of the time if its scam or not because it is the trend the story of getting scam. Now we learned already our lesson to research before doing. In this way we can avoid getting scam. And be profitable in investing.

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December 26, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.

to be honest I wouldn't call them "newbies" instead they are idiots who are also desperate enough to think they can make money this way. HYIP is a scam, and we all know it and anybody who stumbles upon them for the first time figures it out too. but only those who don't use their brains think they are profitable.

all these strategies of getting in first, .... are delusions of these people. they are gambling with terrible odds of winning.

It worked in the past with real world scams and pyramid schemes because they required a lot of effort and initial investment to start up the whole business. That's the reason why first "investors" could actually earn something through them, else the operators would be at a loss if they ran away with their money without delay. Today you don't need a lot of investment, and you can close the business in a matter of a few days, after receiving some money.


It really happens before but now ,in new generation people were more smarter we think most of the time if its scam or not because it is the trend the story of getting scam. Now we learned already our lesson to research before doing. In this way we can avoid getting scam. And be profitable in investing.

Agreed earlier it was very easy to scam use the same tried method and people really had no means to be aware but now thanks to alert people and the same boring methoda we can spot a scam and stay clear of it. But try as you much this guy's succeed with the newbies the most. They easily fall for it. Though every one trying to help but newbies really need to be cautious.
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December 26, 2016, 02:49:43 PM
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That is not new when you have experience this kind of cases. It also goes with bitcoin and actually there are more of like that here. The definition of money in just a different name would really attract those who want to create something like that.

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December 26, 2016, 03:06:48 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well, I also feel a lot of sites like it, so you should prepare for the worst of all possibilities, and to be good at picking up the opportunity. basically the site as it always provide a fee at the beginning of the opening of the site, however, will end the scam within a certain time. Well, I guess in a way that is how they make money. so you have to take risks for it.

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December 26, 2016, 06:51:43 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.
It is very difficult to avoid all the HYIP sites because due to very attractive offers many people start attracted towards them. Yes newbie’s are always thinking HYIP sites are best for investment and their ends up by losing their money. I don't think we can stop them because many people are always interested in investing their money in them.

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December 27, 2016, 10:12:11 AM
Last edit: December 27, 2016, 10:57:18 AM by tee-rex
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.
It is very difficult to avoid all the HYIP sites because due to very attractive offers many people start attracted towards them. Yes newbie’s are always thinking HYIP sites are best for investment and their ends up by losing their money. I don't think we can stop them because many people are always interested in investing their money in them.

Greed makes people lose control and common sense. And it is applicable not only to newbies. A lot of people who are well experienced on the whole also fall victim to such schemes sometimes. It is mostly a matter of finding the right approach to a certain individual and making him believe in the reliability and profitability of a scam enterprise. Investors are such people by their nature simply because they have to believe in the success of their investments. Bitcoin itself is an example of that where a good deal of blind trust in its future is required.
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December 27, 2016, 01:41:07 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
We must see from the others side, true or speculation. For me this is true and fact. If this is purely speculation of course no one believe and put their money.
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December 27, 2016, 01:53:34 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well that's is not new any more in this field of industry in bitcoin world, I think the thing that we can do now we should be very careful in any site like hyip is to avoid them at once for us not to be a victim.
We cannot eliminate HYIP sites, they seem to be offering a great opportunity when it's starting to the eyes of the newbies and we cannot control newbies as they have their own judgement and some even think that they can take advantage of the HYIP by exiting faster once ROI is already realized.

This will continue to exist but if we do not support them, they will not be successful of scamming the majority of investors, there is no law that governs bitcoin so they can do whatever they want.
It is very difficult to avoid all the HYIP sites because due to very attractive offers many people start attracted towards them. Yes newbie’s are always thinking HYIP sites are best for investment and their ends up by losing their money. I don't think we can stop them because many people are always interested in investing their money in them.

People make this system as means of their living or earning.  Even though this kind of system is very dangerous there are lots of people often see this thing a quick money grab.  Companies are keep on establishing this kind of model because there are lots of people patronizing this scheme even though it makes other people loses their money or company shutsdown in the long run.  Unless people stop supporting this kind of money game, Company will never ceased to exist and prey on their victim.
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December 27, 2016, 02:47:26 PM
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theres so many sites like that , theres no forever in bitcoin HAHAHA
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December 27, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?
Well this is the problems that bitcoin is facing right now. Scammers  are everywhere. Some victims of this scamming incidents are just noob users. Maybe if they are careful. Maybe it will lessen this kind of crime. Its a bad publicity for bitcoin. I think scam can never be stopped. Sometimes it will give us lessons.

In real life this is happening and in bitcoin industry this is not even a new thing. That's why we just need to learn from our own experiences and as well as others. Only those newbies are just becoming victims of those schemes because of their want to have a fast income which they really don't have an idea that those are just scams.

So research before doing anything ,scammers were everywhere. We can't please them so we need to be more intelligent on deciding. Only those scammers I think is the problem of bitcoin .

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December 27, 2016, 11:49:20 PM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run.


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December 28, 2016, 12:17:47 AM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run.

They are here because they know nothing can happen to them. Bitcoin doesn't appear in the laws or Constitution, so we can do anything we want. There were many cases in which the FBI or so didn't know how to find them, so the chances of finding that guy is close to 0. I'm always skeptical when it comes to these kinds of websites. Always read reviews.
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December 28, 2016, 12:40:32 AM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

Ponzi schemes. Just like a HYIP site only those who are first will be paid and sadly those who joined late got scammed. Many sites does that, that's why we have trust issues on a site, we need assurance that they will last long. But nothing last forever aight? so that's why we need to be wiser than anyone. When you join a HYIP site just predict when will they run. And withdraw all your balance before they run.
That's like a gamble then. You can run from an HYIP site before it's turning out to be scam site but only if you know how's the characteristic, otherwise you will lose what you've invested with huge risks there
and every HYIP have different timing so, hit and run method is not really effective on this case

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December 28, 2016, 01:15:18 AM
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Somewhere while surfing I read popular sites often makes less known sites use the money to pay first then scam and then continue on the popular sites. Could this also be happening in the Bitcoin industry. Start a roll dice or casino, open a hyip and then hyip goes scam and front site continues, no one comes to know. Or this is purely speculation, none of this happens?

The following depicts my take as to why this tread with its grammatically incorrect OP was created:

It is already easy to spend BTC. It is becoming easier to buy and sell BTC.

To close the cycle and have a real Bitcoin economy we really need some way for millions of people to be able to earn BTC.

Thankfully there is a simple way to achieve that:

https://www.fiverr.com/   millions of gigs, already takes Bitcoin for funding (via Coinbase)

https://www.uber.com    Over 1 million drivers worldwide      (works with Braintree/Paypal)

https://www.airbnb.com/  34.000 cities, over 1 million listings (works with Braintree/Paypal)

https://www.freelancer.com/  15 million users. 8 million projects. (works with Paypal)

The follow is my take as to why this thread with its grammatically incorrect OP was created.

If we can get just these 4 to do Bitcoin payouts for contractors, it will give access to millions worldwide to earning BTC. Anyone with a house, a car or able to work will be able to #EarnBitcoin.

The payment processors are already in contact with these companies and have been offering the option to receive Bitcoin payments... how hard can it be to offer the option of Bitcoin withdrawals/payouts?
Fiver and freelance is not that easy to earn, it really requires luck and effort to earn it. I would suggest signature campaign as a far more effective method rest i feel are slow or difficult to earn. So I think you should add signature campaign also. Rest is faucet site and get few, 100 refs then only one can earn.

Question: How many Juggy777 sockpuppets do you think commented in this thread? My educated guess is no less than four, thus at least five accounts making bank for one person via starting, then commenting on contrived threads. Madness!
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