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https://i.imgur.com/qZ4ertd.png

Note the URL in the lower left-hand corner, generated when placing your cursor over Hashing24's ad: https://hashing24.com/?utm_source=cointelegraph&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=500x400&utm_campaign=websites

https://cointelegraph.com/press-release-submission


The first article was quickly proven to be nefarious by this community's members sans payola via rudimentary means far below resources available to The CoinTelegraph who clearly breached their promises stipulated above in protecting the Bitcoin/cryptocurrency community for a mere 0.4 BTC.

2016-10-26 03:46 PM: UFOMiners Announces the Launch of Four Powerful Cryptocurrency Miners (https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/ufominers-announces-the-launch-of-four-powerful-cryptocurrency-miners)

2016-11-01 03:40 PM: Hashing24 Makes Bitcoin Mining Available to Everyone (https://cointelegraph.com/news/hashing24-makes-bitcoin-mining-available-to-everyone)

The second article above is also easily identified as being nefarious, but passed muster at The CoinTelegraph upon being paid its standard 0.4 BTC fee.

Ergo, you, too, can use The CoinTelegraph to advance your nefarious venture where other nefarious actors, perhaps, pay to advertise their wares. Solution: Boycott ALL entities who advertise on The CoinTeleGraph with the hope of shutting the son of a bitch down. I have reason to believe that the clowns behind CT are nefarious actors themselves, not giving a damn about this community as long as their coffers continue to be topped off.

Back to Hashing24: https://cointelegraph.com/news/hashing24-makes-bitcoin-mining-available-to-everyone


A simple Google search reveals: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&btnG=Search&q=%22Igor+Kovorotny%22+%22Hashing24%22

https://i.imgur.com/irWvlaw.png

The bottom two results are just a rehash of CT's article, thus even the dead Walter Cronkite can easily conclude that prior to CT publishing the press release there was no Igor Kovorotny affiliated with Hashing24.

There is, although, an Igor Solomatin at Hashing24 who's their CFO: https://hashing24.com/?utm_source=cointelegraph&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=500x400&utm_campaign=websites

https://i.imgur.com/DOi75YG.png

I did find an Igor Kovorotny here: https://djinni.co/r/15947-menedzher-po-personalu-v-ukrainskoe-predstavi/

https://i.imgur.com/7HQfrgy.png

Ironically, there's another Igor at Weltrade named Igor Solomatin: http://ir-center.ru/pytyah/work/enversion.asp?str=kinvestor.ru/obzor-brokera-weltrade/

https://i.imgur.com/2y3Z3hT.png

http://www.name-list.net/img/portrait/Igor_5.jpg
"I just learnt how to quit you, Vic, with only one word - Weltrade."

Further Googling reveals ...

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1215&bih=541&q=%22Igor+Kovorotny%22+bitcoin&oq=%22Igor+Kovorotny%22+bitcoin&gs_l=serp.3..30i10k1.54215.54215.0.55795.1.1.0.0.0.0.221.221.2-1.1.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..0.1.219.x3zSqKS4LfY

https://i.imgur.com/UnNvAk9.png

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Igor+Solomatin%22+bitcoin&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1215&bih=541&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjk6He74rQAhXE4yYKHcnIAwQQ_AUIBygA&dpr=1.13

https://i.imgur.com/lTKv2Q1.png

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1458&bih=649&q=%22Ivan+Liukau%22+bitcoin&oq=%22Ivan+Liukau%22+bitcoin&gs_l=serp.3...117625.117625.0.117921.1.1.0.0.0.0.171.171.0j1.1.0....0...1c.2.64.serp..0.0.0.u3GfuJg8UWs

https://i.imgur.com/g3DnDDh.png

Checking out the last URL: http://wa-com.com/hashing24.com

https://i.imgur.com/UbKL5rW.png

Checking out SystemGates Limited: https://www.earnforex.com/forex-brokers/Weltrade/

https://i.imgur.com/KIeJnXR.png

Don't waste your time visiting the site to see if they accept Bitcoin - THEY DON'T!

More to come!

so this is true, i am believing the people are still trusting the CT.
mods should let this thread to be somewhere important so people will know CT is allowing advertising fraud.

Here you go Cointelegraph, This  site are turning into a silly site, time to the time.
I thought there are secret relationship the cointelegraph and hashing24.  >:(

This is the most important section of this forum, albeit the mods may still move the thread [for 0.4 BTC].  ;)

http://www.weltrade.ru/

https://i.imgur.com/glrbQkW.png

this is not new, these so called bitcoin news sites have only one thing in their mind and that is money! they have always been biased and even we have seen many times they publish click-baits, misinformation or even sometimes FUD and also i have seen them support altcoins right before their pumps in order to help it get pumped more.
and they do all this to make more money regardless of the consequences!

I found another Igor at Weltrade - Igor Kempa: http://www.weltrade.ru/company/team/

https://i.imgur.com/FXyLFHy.png

I wonder if the official drink at Weltrade's office is Monster Energy.

http://www.koge-shop.at/images/product_images/original_images/monsterbfc.jpg

I haven't touch with this site anymore, since they news about advertising scam site.
Fortunately the truth revealed with some good prove.


Probably service discussion section.

We all know that 99.99% of cloud mining today it's just scam.
And we all know that newspapers (crypto related or not) will help themselves and not the readers. It's just another business.

It's clear that after such articles, even without the research to demonstrate clearly the scam, the people will label the newspaper as not trustworthy or will avoid it.
But will they care? Nope.

We, the ones that get the main info from this forum, don't lose much (I personally have barely read a few of their articles over time).
The main target for those articles is, imho, the ones reading cointelegraph and not reading bitcointalk. And those sadly you cannot help....

Is it possible to buy a press release there and have it up for a couple of days before it's taken down due to being a scam of whatever?
I can't believe a so called 'reputable' news website would allow these kind of practices, since it's not always clear at the beginning if a certain service will turn scam or not.

While they would be able to get a lot of funds secured by just paying that 0.4 BTC and having the article up for a few days or weeks, before it gets taken down.

I was highly suspicious of Hashing24 a while back, and I certainly share the dislike of the Press accepting releases written by companies and presented as editorial for money but

Although their ROI worked out about 1000 days, Hashing24 were claiming to use Bitfury, so I asked Punin about them and

https://i.imgur.com/aVatKRv.png

Make of that what you will.

Yes, much as some users will shill for scammers by selling their sig space, some 'news' organs will shill for scammers by running paid content.

Almost makes you sick, doesn't it?

scammers are all over non stop!

https://i.imgur.com/YaTOj8c.png

Said the guy the LEOcoin link in his sig.

I see that CyrusTelegraph moved this thread to the scam section.  ;D ;D ;D <I can't seem to get anything pass him.  :'(>

Seriously, no prob with the move, bud. I'll tell theymos to put something extra in your stocking this Christmas.  :P :P :P

That Leo shill is a criminal as far as i am concerned.
And he has a habit of running around bad mouthing his scam competition.
To try and make himself look good of course.

Anyway.. don't think i have gone there (Cointelegraph) much ever.
But i have seen shenanigans at Coindesk for ages they are sleazy pieces of shit too.
Not sure of Coindesk takes payment for submitted stories or if it's common like that.

Not surprising the level of corruption is colossal !
Good work Bruno .. these guys all do look like scammy assholes.

Nefarious actors in the world-cum-[now] on the Internet jackoff all over themselves when they first stumble upon Bitcoin-cum-cryptocurrencies, immediately realizing that they can take their respective scammy enterprises to the next level, i.e. getting paid for shenanigans via pseudo-anonymous means if not embracing the space via marrying their nefarious venture of choice with any existing and/or starting up a shitcoin, introducing the latter, if such, with all the bells and whistles formerly employed by others plus adding their own masala.

"All right, if you operate a real cryptocurrency, where is your blockchain? Gives us a link."

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQScENMdQdx_An4lB3D-hGVN65ceobV2q3cIOb7Zjj5aNOxN2BK
"Blockchain, yes we have a blockchain! In fact, we have mucho blockchains. But I don't have to give you any links to our stinkin' blockchains, you god-damned cabrón and chinga tu madre!"

"No blockchain, we're not interested."

"We aren't trying to do the community any harm. Why don't you try to be a little more polite? Give us your moneys and we'll make you rich so you can live out the rest of your life in peace."

Uhhh.. nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWa6Y7G8Ksg

https://i.imgur.com/htDh5rv.png

First off, exactly how does a new-kid-on-the-block (https://who.godaddy.com/whoisstd.aspx?domain=hashing24.com&prog_id=GoDaddy&k=Uk4gBWwy9MNPcz%2fev0Dq2F64vR0gmWzcjCUlY2%2fYbjnqFP%2fp%20H7hr6SXluRxNX1g) Bitcoin entity have a YouTube video up for almost three months now enjoying 64.4K views yet doesn't have a single comment below said video from the voicetress crypto community - good or bad [review]?

Furthermore, why did BitFury opted to share its newly created coins with the rest of the Bitcoin community opposed to keeping all the moneys for themselves and perhaps (fuck that perhaps shit!) their investors (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/bitfury/investors)?

Exactly how and why does a formidable (benefit of the doubt) BitFury team up with an outfit whose activities on the Internet are sparse at best?

Exactly how does the partnership between you two's business model truly make moneys for all those opting to join the new service? Revisiting what I mentioned above, and how does the model HONESTLY earn moneys for BitFury over and beyond simply keeping the mined coins for themselves and investors? In re the latter, it makes no fuckin' sense to built, then maintain a website, not to mention the needed support, catered to virtual mining by newly sought-after clients when it'll be easier and, again, more profitable to simply maintain the status quo. That said, this fuckin' venture has scam written all over it, thus you, Ivan, are going to have to do some major PR work to turn that sentiment around 180.

Bruno

EDIT: http://bitcoincloudmining.org/en/hashing-24/

https://i.imgur.com/hYrySif.png

Serious question:  ::) Exactly who do I submit my request for moneys so that I can purchase a replacement laptop since the one I was currently using a few minutes ago is now broken due to my jizz dripping through its keys onto its electronics. The last noise it made was, "Noooooooooooooo!"

Here's another question now that I've found the above: Assuming that all of BitFury's investors are astute, will there be enough mining contracts available to the general public once all the investors and their closest allies gobble up as much as possible, in essence the investors augmenting their returns over and beyond what's stipulated in their respective investor agreements with BitFury? The question was asked assuming that a 405% return is better than any return the investors once hoped to gain prior to the marriage of BitFury and Hashing24. On the other hand, since I'm not truly versed in these things, perhaps, BitFury's investors already enjoy a massive ROI, where a 405% return is merely a drop in the bucket to them, hence being willing and able to share them peanuts with the bitcoin community through the new venture Hashing24. Somebody, please set me straight in that regard, thank you in advance.

http://bitcoincloudmining.org/en/hashing-24/

https://i.imgur.com/GvLvBG8.png

Twice in one year it saddens me to have to report that I've made a grave error. I was basing my stance of a 405% return being an impossibility of bitcoins being mined via a SHA-256 algorithm, but now obvious to everybody but myself I see that that's not the case at all. Since I'm not versed in such things, I'll concede my former position safely assuming that a 405% return is truly possible when mining bitcoins with a scrypt algorithm as Hashing24 truly does, otherwise them honest folks wouldn't have declared such to be the case, with being an error totally outta the question given that these folks are well-versed in the cryptocurrency space since 2012, depicted as a truism below on the exact same page as linked-to above, hence they, themselves, wouldn't have expressed such a grave error like I unfortunately have.  :'( Please forgive me, all. Also, please forgive me for trying to extort moneys from Hashing24, for I have lied about squirting jizz all over my laptop.  :o It's working fine. That said, I'm investing one million dollars into Hashing24's bitcoin scrypt mining program, whereupon I, like everybody else, WILL earn a 405% ROI. We're all going to be fuckin' rich or richer thanks to the wonderful partnership between Hashing24 and BitFury. Thank you, one-post-wonder Ivan, for giving us in the bitcoin community the opportunity to take advantage of your wonderful program. You're the bestest!


https://i.imgur.com/RHgpurd.png

Man you gonna be rich Gamow'z !!!11  :o
Now i see why theymos had a long standing ban way back on "Bitcoin Scrypt"
Clearly thymoz was hoardin' all them ROI'z to himself  >:(
Thankfully the ban appeal BitcoinEXpress made way back years ago worked.

I still remember "FUD'ing Magnet who posted the ANN here for it why..
the data directory location was not fixed so it wouldn't be a problem over-writing the Bitcoin data files.
He had no answer for me.. i was Trollin' i guess asking questions.
Yup it was an amateur effort..

Thank god we have experts these days like them Igor(s) from Russia !
We're in good hands people.. if you have money left over after investing in Stakeminers you know where to spend it ;)

We should put this to an end (or at least reduce these scams). I think that I can reveal that in the past ~1 month I've had numerous conversations with cryptodevil (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224980) on IRC and I once talked with tmfp (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=351569) as well. I have an idea and some very interesting findings, which I can share with the prominent scambusters here, but I would do it in a Tox group chat or something of the like. I don't run it 24/7 and if some of you are interested, then please send me a PM.

Dear Gleb Gamov, thank you for passionate investigation.
You are trying too hard and in fact all your comments have no sense.
You find some irrelevant information on the web and trying to turn it around.
But in reality it has nothing to do with the services we provide.

In fact why would anyone listen to you if your reputation is in question?

https://bitcointalk4.com/reputation/gleb-gamow-and-his-inappropriate-hypocritical-and-illegal-attacks/ (https://bitcointalk4.com/reputation/gleb-gamow-and-his-inappropriate-hypocritical-and-illegal-attacks/)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.0  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012713.0)

So i repeat all our contracts are real and anyone can request Bitfury this information, they will confirm. Also when your ordering withdrawal of your newly mined bitcoins you will receive email with transaction details at https://blockchain.info/. There you can check origin of your bitcoins. You will see that it is "Newly Generated Coins" from BitFury.  

We are not scam and never will be.
You can try to put out any information, but its all just talking and your  imagination.

That was not addressing any of the concerns / accusations brought forth by Gamow.
We got a template "We're legit" response with a jab at his credibility / reputation.
In other words a fail retort..

I suggest you quickly re-build your reply to Gleb Gamow before he sees your shit spamming.
I offered a suggestion on the Cryptsy topic where you also copied / pasted the same reply.
Because how you are going about this is not going to clear your name.

@Spartak
That us some what interesting but i don't like participating in these usually eh.
I suffer from lazyness LOL
Not that i thought you were offering.. just sayin'

I am most likely to get on IRC / Freenode though occasionally.. if i am not banned on the channel  ;D

"Unity is strength... when there is teamwork and collaboration, wonderful things can be achieved." - Said by a child who died at age 14.

If you think that playing like "btctalk warriors" is enough, then ok. Same goes to Gamow.

Sort of off-topic but i don't think my warrior skills do much to be honest.
Aside from raising awareness that people need to be cautious.

FUD First & Ask Questions later people !

No crypto service / project etc deserves the benefit of the doubt.
We should all be in a state of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt by default.

All these guys post here.. "ohh you FUD me"
As though it is unwarranted.
When all it is most times is people asking questions.

I have my reputation because i started on the Cryptsy Troll-Box doing just that.
I was ALWAYS ganged up on and often banned for simply asking things like "Who made the coin"

It's a war.. over transparency.
They all want to obscure as much as they can and operate in the shadows.
They expect and demand to be trusted but make no effort to be accountable and transparent.
Show me even 1 project in history that could not be far more transparent with the public.

And the whole scene enables this behavior.
Why ? MONEY !

Projects like the one here on this topic exist because they work.
Users are willing to flood in and hand over their money.

It's about educating the stubborn users here that known better.
Or in Hashing24's case potential users new to Crypto.
Seems like they are trying to advertise online but avoid Bitcointalk.
Which is why they had to create an account here to respond to the scam accusation.
When they claim to be doing it for years yet what ? Didn't know about this forum ?

The mods handled a shitload of his spam postings, leaving 3-4 left which I'm happy with because it still shows (for now) how this fucker Ivan Liukau operates.

Here's a riddle: What do you get when you pay CoinTelegraph 0.4 BTC to publish a press release, then come to this forum to show your nefarious ass?

Answer: Negative trust. HAHAHA & Chuckles

So Gamow'z do you know if Cointelegraph continues to run their advertisement ?
Safe to assume they all charge a fee.. Coindesk etc ?
Was the Igor from the Hashing24 service banned here ?

I always got a sick feeling with Coindesk's many Doge and then Ethereum "News Stories"
It was blatant bullshit i always thought.. i stopped going there end of 2013 roughly.
They really made no effort to be impartial or objective..
It always seemed like a shilling web site masked as a Crypto News site.

And my hands are tied often guys..
I refuse to make it easy for people by visiting their web-sites.
I have had a million peopel try and lure me to sites in Crypto over the years.
As a matter of fact i had a guy do this again 24 hours ago here via PM.
He was trying to be helpful saying he heard of a cool free windows program.
No chance in hell i would click the link though.

So when it comes to "investigating" my hands are tied LOL
I use Google Cache'd links a lot though.

I seen a guy get ripped-off at Cryptsy by using Google to go to Cryptsy.
he told us all that is how he went there..
Problem was the top search result one day was a malicious site.
A fake Cryptsy site that stole the users session-cookie for the login which enabled the hacker to clean out the account.
This was confirmed by Cryptsy staff on the troll-box after it happened..
I also was on chat while the user was getting cleaned out..
He was on chat screaming and freaking out saying someone is dumping my coins etc.
No one could help him not even the mods on there back then.
Best thing they could do and DID was ban him for his own good.
He even got pissed right off later saying Cryptsy did not cover the loss.
SO he came back later..
Claiming to have killed his wife & kids with blood everywhere on chat.
I have that logged and put on Pastebin still.. true story !

Uhhh yeah LOL
So i don't visit links.. such as ? COINTELEGRAPH  :D
..not sure i have ever been there actually.

Coindesk's new alt to pump is Zcash since several of the admins of Coindesk are invested in it.

This kind of shit is so common that i seen this..

Pick a Lock in SECONDS with a Bump Key - By Scam School (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpH_t0u5Ybg)

The interesting parallel is the Advertisements from Netflix and GoDaddy for a scam show to pick locks etc.

Netflix sponsoring burglars doing B&E's since 2012 !

..yup i got on the Youtubes which is big shocker 'cause i hate "the Tubes" !!  >:(

One minute i am searching for "Yellow Pee Pee Monster" then watching Nyan Cat to watching a video on how to break into a vending machine with a dent puller.. which i already knew worked on a car's ignition ;)

Seems Youtube has such credibility that they allow that shit but banned this guy..
https://yppm.removed.us/

It is just another day, another cloudmining service, another proven scam service. Why am i not surprised? Because people on this forum were telling us to stay away from cloudmining for a long time. If you still do business, have an investment, anything related to cloudmining, dump your position and don't ever look back.

Far too easy to simply setup web sites CLAIMING you are mining while never actually having to prove it.
405% ROI and advertised on Cointelegraph ..with SCRYPT algo on the Bitcoins ?
holy shit snapples where do i sign up ?  :o gimme the god damn ROI'z NOW !!!!!111  >:(

Some much limp dick fucktardery by sleazy greed pricks....... AND the cunt douche bags who provide the scams  :D

MOST of you know better but don't give two shits because you make money.

THAT IS CRYPTO ..that is all this retarded bullshit amounts to now a days.
That and Dark Markets and Ransomware  :D

shared to the FB with 8000 members to make sure they do not touch these SCAM websites!!!!!!!!!!!