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Title: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 23, 2016, 04:54:36 PM
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Dakota Pipeline: Protesters Soaked With Water in Freezing Temperatures

Tear gas, freezing cold water and rubber bullets were used to disperse a crowd of 400 protesters at the Dakota Access Pipeline in clashes late Sunday and early Monday that left more than 150 activists and one law enforcement officer injured.

Standing Rock Sioux Chairman Dave Archambault II told NBC News that between 200-300 people were transported late Sunday night to a gymnasium on the Standing Rock Sioux reservation for treatment for hypothermia, facial and hand wounds, and other minor injuries. Approximately seven people with more serious injuries — including two elders who were tear gassed and who suffered near cardiac arrest — were sent to a hospital in Bismarck for emergency treatment, said Archambault.

He said the tribe was reaching out to the White House Monday with a request that the Obama administration intervene "due to the threat to public safety at Standing Rock."

"From the beginning, we've had water protectors attacked by guard dogs, rubber bullets and mace. Last night, law enforcement upped the ante by using exploding tear gas canisters and water cannons in sub-freezing temperatures," said Archambault. "There's no telling what law enforcement will do next."

For those not aware of the issue, read: http://www.vox.com/2016/9/9/12862958/dakota-access-pipeline-fight

President Obama is refusing to help. Native Americans and sympathetic protesters are being injured by law enforcement armed with military grade assault weapons, armored clothing, helmets, assault rifles and riot water cannons.

Do you believe the U.S. Government is incapable of protecting its citizens from harm in this case due to bias over the desire to complete the pipeline? Is that bias placing its citizens at deadly risk? Do you agree with the governments stance and actions toward the protesters? Should the United Nations send independent inspectors and arbiters to investigate and attempt to assist with protecting the safety of those involved?


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: birareru1988 on November 23, 2016, 05:44:25 PM
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Dakota Pipeline: Protesters Soaked With Water in Freezing Temperatures

Tear gas, freezing cold water and rubber bullets were used to disperse a crowd of 400 protesters at the Dakota Access Pipeline in clashes late Sunday and early Monday that left more than 150 activists and one law enforcement officer injured.

Standing Rock Sioux Chairman Dave Archambault II told NBC News that between 200-300 people were transported late Sunday night to a gymnasium on the Standing Rock Sioux reservation for treatment for hypothermia, facial and hand wounds, and other minor injuries. Approximately seven people with more serious injuries — including two elders who were tear gassed and who suffered near cardiac arrest — were sent to a hospital in Bismarck for emergency treatment, said Archambault.

He said the tribe was reaching out to the White House Monday with a request that the Obama administration intervene "due to the threat to public safety at Standing Rock."

"From the beginning, we've had water protectors attacked by guard dogs, rubber bullets and mace. Last night, law enforcement upped the ante by using exploding tear gas canisters and water cannons in sub-freezing temperatures," said Archambault. "There's no telling what law enforcement will do next."

For those not aware of the issue, read: http://www.vox.com/2016/9/9/12862958/dakota-access-pipeline-fight

President Obama is refusing to help. Native Americans and sympathetic protesters are being injured by law enforcement armed with military grade assault weapons, armored clothing, helmets, assault rifles and riot water cannons.

Do you believe the U.S. Government is incapable of protecting its citizens from harm in this case due to bias over the desire to complete the pipeline? Is that bias placing its citizens at deadly risk? Do you agree with the governments stance and actions toward the protesters? Should the United Nations send independent inspectors and arbiters to investigate and attempt to assist with protecting the safety of those involved?
The United Nations can not do anything to solve it. In the format in which it exists now it will not be able to work. It will either cease to exist or will be changed.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 23, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
Unfortunately, the American Indians are not a significant voter bloc in the United States. They are not present in considerable numbers in any of the swing states. The states where they reside are mostly deep-red (such as Oklahoma, Arizona, South Dakota.etc) or deep-blue (Oregon, Washington.etc). That is the reason why the mainstream parties are ignoring them.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: wowanstrong on November 23, 2016, 06:50:22 PM
Unfortunately, the American Indians are not a significant voter bloc in the United States. They are not present in considerable numbers in any of the swing states. The states where they reside are mostly deep-red (such as Oklahoma, Arizona, South Dakota.etc) or deep-blue (Oregon, Washington.etc). That is the reason why the mainstream parties are ignoring them.
This is due to the fact that the basic postulate of democracy is the subordination of the minority to the majority. I think it is not correct. This approach provokes conflicts. It is not always the indigenous people more.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 24, 2016, 08:43:26 AM
I just learned that a woman might lose her arm from a concussion grenade thrown at protesters. You can see her bone sticking out in the photo below. I've also put a few shots of what law enforcement is doing to the protesters.

http://cdn.scallywagandvagabond.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Sophia-Wilansky-634x400.jpg

Five cops against a woman armed with a walking stick. That seems fair.

http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/10/Dakota-Access-Pipeline-Protest-1.jpg

Have some mace for lunch you filthy redskins. Go back to your stupid tepee while I bulldoze the bones of your ancestors.

http://www.telesurtv.net/__export/1478267836242/sites/telesur/img/news/2016/11/04/dakota_police.jpg_1718483346.jpg

http://video.newsserve.net/700/v/20161028/1135240030-Dakota-Access-pipeline-protesters-pepper-sprayed-by-police.jpg

Better grab your shotgun, I hear there is a girl with a walking stick.

http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/10/Dakota-Access-Pipeline-Law-Enforcement.jpg

The threatening and scary protesters about to sing an Indian song. Get the rubber bullets, quick!

http://www.toledoblade.com/image/2016/10/27/x600_q65/Oil-Pipeline-Protest-15.jpg

Everyone loves mace.

https://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/pepper-spray-of-water-protectors.jpg


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: Sithara007 on November 24, 2016, 08:57:36 AM
^^^^^ Reminds me of a well known quote from Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

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When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.

The natives are treated like dogs in the United States. This situation must change.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: birareru1988 on November 24, 2016, 02:23:55 PM
^^^^^ Reminds me of a well known quote from Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

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When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.

The natives are treated like dogs in the United States. This situation must change.
Russian can only teach others. Themselves not only humiliate the small Nations which are part of Russia, but do not spare itself the indigenous population. For Russian authorities the price of human life never mattered.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: crazywack on November 24, 2016, 02:28:20 PM
While the situation is not pretty.... I don't think blue helmets will help solve any issues. I would start more IMO. Opening another can of worms entirely.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 24, 2016, 05:33:49 PM
^^^^^ Reminds me of a well known quote from Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

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When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.

The natives are treated like dogs in the United States. This situation must change.

Exactly, living the American dream.

The only ethnic minorities I can see wanting to emigrate to America would be masochists. Either they really love being a maid, busboy or migrant farm labor or they've always dreamed of serving a long prison sentence. Stand up against government evil and earn yourself mace, rubber bullets and a new free one room apartment with a built in roommate named Leroy.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AeA15BYnFdY/hqdefault.jpg


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: Thenoticer on November 24, 2016, 05:46:34 PM
This is digusting.

Someone should go post this to the swarm ai at r/the_donald.


I believe they would not appreciate the police brutality.

Maybe Trump would even tweet about it.



Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: btvlGainer on November 24, 2016, 05:51:20 PM
^^^^^ Reminds me of a well known quote from Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

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When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.

The natives are treated like dogs in the United States. This situation must change.

Exactly, living the American dream.

The only ethnic minorities I can see wanting to emigrate to America would be masochists. Either they really love being a maid, busboy or migrant farm labor or they've always dreamed of serving a long prison sentence. Stand up against government evil and earn yourself mace, rubber bullets and a new free one room apartment with a built in roommate named Leroy.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/AeA15BYnFdY/hqdefault.jpg
You do not forget that in many countries on more prestigious jobs can earn 10 times less than a maid in America. Here immigrants go to any kind of work in more developed countries. Judging by the name in your post you Russian? What is your salary?


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: devthedev on November 24, 2016, 06:00:27 PM
I just learned that a woman might lose her arm from a concussion grenade thrown at protesters. You can see her bone sticking out in the photo below. I've also put a few shots of what law enforcement is doing to the protesters.

This is absolutely insane and despicable. The natives are PEACEFULLY protesting the creation of a pipeline close to their main water source, that could poison thousands.

However, authorities are using tear gas, rubber bullets and spraying the protesters with water cannons in below freezing temperatures. What a disgraceful treatment of human beings. I do not recall seeing this in the Baltimore, Ferguson, etc. Black Lives Matter riots.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 24, 2016, 06:19:34 PM
You do not forget that in many countries on more prestigious jobs can earn 10 times less than a maid in America. Here immigrants go to any kind of work in more developed countries. Judging by the name in your post you Russian? What is your salary?

Don't try to divert the topic. The issue here is the police brutality towards the indigenous population in the United States. The salary of the immigrants has nothing to do with this. If you are talking about salary, then there are dozens of other nations which are having higher wages than the US.




Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: philggg on November 24, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
The united nation can only advice the u s government on how to treat the Indians they can not inter fare into the affairs of u s because the untef state government as a lot of influence in the in so the  India ns should join political society so that they can be in government to help fellow Indians just as Obama did it for the blavks


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: devthedev on November 24, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
Obama did it for the blavks

Obama has done absolutely nothing for blacks, he only played the race card when it was election time. America is more racially divided than it has been for decades. We have basically been set back to the 60's.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 24, 2016, 09:40:43 PM
You can always count on Texas to get rowdy.

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Austin, Texas — Advocates gathered downtown Austin from all over Texas Tuesday in solidarity with Dakota Access Pipeline protesters.

The "Water is Life" movement began in North Dakota in April, and has since garnered support from people, celebrities and politicians.

In Austin, hundreds of people marched around the Bank of America Plaza shouting, "Texas supports freedom - profit isn't freedom."

Demonstrators say Bank of America is just one of many major banks financing the construction of the pipeline.

"Bank of America is a supporter of the pipelines, Wells Fargo is a supporter. There's other supporters. We need to stop doing business with those supporters so that they realize that what they're doing to the people. They need us, we don't need them. They need our money, we don't need their money,” said one Texan supporter.

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kut/files/styles/x_large/public/201611/31015746335_b6424979bc_k.jpg
Notice one of the signs in the background says, "domestic terrorism".


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: BADecker on November 25, 2016, 03:35:00 AM
The UN should do exactly that, if they want to continue to see global dominance.

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Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: Sithara007 on November 25, 2016, 05:36:14 AM
Obama did it for the blavks

Obama has done absolutely nothing for blacks, he only played the race card when it was election time. America is more racially divided than it has been for decades. We have basically been set back to the 60's.

I will agree with you on that. Obama was a puppet of the Clinton crime family and Soros. He couldn't do anything for the African Americans, because he was too busy playing golf. Right now, the blacks are much worse off than they were in 1992.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: gabmen on November 25, 2016, 08:44:41 AM
Obama did it for the blavks

Obama has done absolutely nothing for blacks, he only played the race card when it was election time. America is more racially divided than it has been for decades. We have basically been set back to the 60's.

I will agree with you on that. Obama was a puppet of the Clinton crime family and Soros. He couldn't do anything for the African Americans, because he was too busy playing golf. Right now, the blacks are much worse off than they were in 1992.

Well it can be observed that the situation with black people didn't go well in obama's 8 hear term. This goes as well with the indians. I think the u.n needs to interfere already. Look at whats happening in standing rock. It seems that there is very little respect being given to the indians there and there should already be intervention


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 25, 2016, 03:02:15 PM
Obama did it for the blavks

Obama has done absolutely nothing for blacks, he only played the race card when it was election time. America is more racially divided than it has been for decades. We have basically been set back to the 60's.

I will agree with you on that. Obama was a puppet of the Clinton crime family and Soros. He couldn't do anything for the African Americans, because he was too busy playing golf. Right now, the blacks are much worse off than they were in 1992.

Well it can be observed that the situation with black people didn't go well in obama's 8 hear term. This goes as well with the indians. I think the u.n needs to interfere already. Look at whats happening in standing rock. It seems that there is very little respect being given to the indians there and there should already be intervention

I agree completely. The UN charter specifically calls out their duties and responsibilities regarding human rights. This situation fits completely. If it was happening in Rwanda or Libya they wouldn't hesitate. Why is the USA off limits when they exhibit the same behavior?

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High Commissioner for Human Rights

The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) has lead responsibility in the UN system for the promotion and protection of human rights.  The office supports the human rights components of peacekeeping missions in several countries, and has many country and regional offices and centres. The High Commissioner for Human Rights regularly comments on human rights situations in the world and has the authority to investigate situations and issue reports on them.

Security Council

The UN Security Council, at times, deals with grave human rights violations, often in conflict areas.  The UN Charter gives the Security Council the authority to investigate and mediate, dispatch a mission, appoint special envoys, or request the Secretary-General to use his good offices.  The Security Council may issue a ceasefire directive, dispatch military observers or a peacekeeping force.  If this does not work, the Security Council can opt for enforcement measures, such as economic sanctions, arms embargos, financial penalties and restrictions, travel bans, the severance of diplomatic relations, a blockade, or even collective military action.

Various Other UN Bodies

Different intergovernmental bodies and interdepartmental mechanisms based at the United Nations headquarters in New York, as well as the United Nations Secretary-General, address a range of human rights issues. The General Assembly, the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) and their subsidiary organs make policy decisions and recommendations to Member States, the United Nations system and other actors. The United Nations Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues (UNPFII), an advisory body to the Economic and Social Council, has a mandate to discuss indigenous issues, including human rights. The Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights interacts with and provides advice and support on human rights issues to these bodies and mechanisms. The Office also works to mainstream human rights in all areas of work of the Organization, including development, peace and security, peacekeeping and humanitarian affairs. Human rights issues are also addressed in the context of the post-conflict UN peacebuilding support activities
 


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 25, 2016, 07:02:15 PM
Well it can be observed that the situation with black people didn't go well in obama's 8 hear term. This goes as well with the indians. I think the u.n needs to interfere already. Look at whats happening in standing rock. It seems that there is very little respect being given to the indians there and there should already be intervention

IMO, the UN must impose sanctions and embargoes on the United States for mistreating the indigenous people. The irony is that the United States has imposed sanctions on dozens of nations, for their poor treatment of the minorities. In other cases, it has supported the UN embargoes against foreign nations. Examples are the embargoes against Northern Cyprus and Myanmar.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: beafheart on November 25, 2016, 07:54:33 PM
Well it can be observed that the situation with black people didn't go well in obama's 8 hear term. This goes as well with the indians. I think the u.n needs to interfere already. Look at whats happening in standing rock. It seems that there is very little respect being given to the indians there and there should already be intervention

IMO, the UN must impose sanctions and embargoes on the United States for mistreating the indigenous people. The irony is that the United States has imposed sanctions on dozens of nations, for their poor treatment of the minorities. In other cases, it has supported the UN embargoes against foreign nations. Examples are the embargoes against Northern Cyprus and Myanmar.
The UN have not performs its functions. This organization is either reformed or cease to exist. And before you defend the Indians need to protect the indigenous population of Russia and Ukraine. They have a life worse.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 27, 2016, 07:11:33 AM
Thousands of Ex Army Veterans have teamed up and are heading towards Standing Rock to protect protesters of the Dakota Access pipeline from Police brutality. Now, Wood Jr. and Clark Jr. are organizing mass non-violent protection against police violence on protesters in North Dakota.

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“This country is repressing our people,” says Michael A. Wood Jr., a Marine Corps veteran who recently retired from the Baltimore police force to work toward reforming law enforcement. “If we’re going to be heroes, if we’re really going to be those veterans that this country praises, well, then we need to do the things that we actually said we’re going to do when we took the oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic,” he asserted about his plans to go to Standing Rock.Woods Jr. is joined by Wes Clark Jr. Clark Jr. is the son of General Wesley Clark, the famous military leader who once warned that shortly after 9/11, the government had its eyes on Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Clark would later attempt to distance himself from those statements but still managed to convince his son, a member of the Army at the time, to stay away from Iraq.“I was like, ‘I’m going back in. I’m going to go in there and fuck people up,’” Clark Jr. recalls of his desire to fight for the military after 9/11. He later changed his mind after his father warned him, as Task and Purpose summarized, “that as a soldier he would be fighting a war that had nothing to do with defeating al Qaeda.”

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/us/veterans-stand-for-standing-rock-trnd/index.html


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on November 27, 2016, 07:58:12 AM
Unfortunately, getting them involved is not the solution, and could end up causing more conflict than the resolve. The UN sure has a track record for it...

The only thing that can be done is to join them and give them all of our support, force the government to address the issue. Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 27, 2016, 08:00:27 AM
Unfortunately, getting them involved is not the solution, and could end up causing more conflict than the resolve. The UN sure has a track record for it...

The only thing that can be done is to join them and give them all of our support, force the government to address the issue. Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.

Really? I didn't know that about Canada. The women just go missing and no one does anything?


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: rexxarofmoknathal on November 27, 2016, 08:24:47 AM
Unfortunately, getting them involved is not the solution, and could end up causing more conflict than the resolve. The UN sure has a track record for it...

The only thing that can be done is to join them and give them all of our support, force the government to address the issue. Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.

Really? I didn't know that about Canada. The women just go missing and no one does anything?

Sorry, I should say missing and murdered*, though the missing cases make up over a fifth, which is a pretty horrifying number. There's also a lot of uncertainty as to what the true numbers are, some speculate that they are much, much higher than those being reported. 

But yes, aboriginal women experience much higher rates than other women. I saw a statistic that said only 4% of women in Canada are Indigenous, but they make up over 10% of female homicides. Another pretty shocking thing to note is that over half of the cases are believed to involve people who were complete strangers to these women, or simply acquaintances.

It isn't necessarily that nobody does anything, it's that they don't do enough. The police have often been criticized that they lead very poor and inadequate investigations into the matters, and the records they created after the fact are hardly ever complete. And the government up until a few years ago stated that they would launch further investigations if they felt they were needed, which never became a reality.

Trudeau has finally prioritized that now that he has taken the role of PM. Investigations are supposed to have started, with all parties backing the inquiry. Hopefully something positive comes of this, these communities desperately need it.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: clickerz on November 27, 2016, 01:52:00 PM

IMO, the UN must impose sanctions and embargoes on the United States for mistreating the indigenous people. The irony is that the United States has imposed sanctions on dozens of nations, for their poor treatment of the minorities. In other cases, it has supported the UN embargoes against foreign nations. Examples are the embargoes against Northern Cyprus and Myanmar.

The UN have not performs its functions. This organization is either reformed or cease to exist. And before you defend the Indians need to protect the indigenous population of Russia and Ukraine. They have a life worse.

Well if UN is fair to all, they should investigate if human rights is violated. Though America is acting as a world police, but violations is also happening in their backyard. Its an awkward moment that will complicate the situation for America if UN investigate.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 27, 2016, 02:19:55 PM
Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.

Yeah... nowadays I am reading a lot about how bad the situation is for the indigenous people in Canada. In both Canada and the United States, the native Americans are the most neglected and poorest racial group. They are even worse off than the illegal immigrants. Alcoholism and drug abuse is destroying the entire communities.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 27, 2016, 04:32:16 PM
That's crazy about Canada. I had no idea. That's an even better reason for the UN to investigate the human rights violations for, I guess, all of North America. One of the primary goals of the UN is to investigate and alleviate suffering and human rights concerns. Maybe they're just afraid to step on the toes of their boss the president of the United States.

Thank you all for commenting in this thread BTW. I emailed a link for this thread to Prince Zeid bin Ra’ad Zeid al-Hussein the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights and Ban Ki-moon the Secretary-General of the United Nations. Let's see if they care enough about human rights to investigate one of the big boys.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: Sithara007 on November 27, 2016, 04:51:36 PM
IMO, at least within the Indian reservation, the sovereignty should be handed to the native people. The US government and police must stay away from the reservations. The Indians can form a police force within these places, to maintain security.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 27, 2016, 10:53:19 PM
IMO, at least within the Indian reservation, the sovereignty should be handed to the native people. The US government and police must stay away from the reservations. The Indians can form a police force within these places, to maintain security.

Their sovereignty is similar to the individual states in the US. They have control unless the federal government has the only authority (like printing money or negotiating with foreign nations, only the federal govt can print money). They call the tribes "domestic dependent nations". They are in control of everything NOT specifically granted to the federal government by the constitution.

That sounds great until you realize in the past 250 years the federal government has managed to create federal authority over almost everything. Here's an example: The constitution clearly lists the individual freedoms of all citizens. I think everyone in the world that knows anything about the good old U. S. of A. knows this. However, after the Patriot Act, if I'm a federal cop and want to step all over your individual freedoms I just utter these magic words "you are a terrorist" and your freedoms are gone. You no longer have the right to a trial, no free speech, can't contact anyone and I can put you in prison for the rest of your life and no one will even know where you are. God bless America, eh. LOL

In the USA there is tribal police. The problem is, they report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (a federal govt agency) and are supervised and usurped by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If a city cop finds a murder and the FBI wants to handle it they just tell the city cops to go away. Same thing with tribal police. Their powers are limited to non federal crimes. They're more like meter maids issuing tickets than cops.

They act a little like the Corrections Corporation of America. The CCA hires cops (corrections officers) and controls them like a regular police department but they have no authority outside of the prison and are controlled and funded by the government.

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/91/229852991_838a924d82_z.jpg?zz=1


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: Sithara007 on November 28, 2016, 06:39:38 AM
In the USA there is tribal police. The problem is, they report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (a federal govt agency) and are supervised and usurped by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If a city cop finds a murder and the FBI wants to handle it they just tell the city cops to go away. Same thing with tribal police. Their powers are limited to non federal crimes. They're more like meter maids issuing tickets than cops.

From what I have heard, the tribal police has near-zero power. Even if a violent crime (such as murder or rape) occurs inside the reservation, the tribal police can arrest the perpetrator only if both the victim and the perpetrator is Indian. Else, they must call in the state police.


Title: Re: Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians
Post by: QuestionAuthority on November 28, 2016, 02:44:38 PM
In the USA there is tribal police. The problem is, they report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (a federal govt agency) and are supervised and usurped by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If a city cop finds a murder and the FBI wants to handle it they just tell the city cops to go away. Same thing with tribal police. Their powers are limited to non federal crimes. They're more like meter maids issuing tickets than cops.

From what I have heard, the tribal police has near-zero power. Even if a violent crime (such as murder or rape) occurs inside the reservation, the tribal police can arrest the perpetrator only if both the victim and the perpetrator is Indian. Else, they must call in the state police.

Yes, it is sad. We treat them like children.