Should the United Nations send inspectors to America to help Indians

[bryant.coleman]

Well it can be observed that the situation with black people didn't go well in obama's 8 hear term. This goes as well with the indians. I think the u.n needs to interfere already. Look at whats happening in standing rock. It seems that there is very little respect being given to the indians there and there should already be intervention

IMO, the UN must impose sanctions and embargoes on the United States for mistreating the indigenous people. The irony is that the United States has imposed sanctions on dozens of nations, for their poor treatment of the minorities. In other cases, it has supported the UN embargoes against foreign nations. Examples are the embargoes against Northern Cyprus and Myanmar.

[beafheart]

Well it can be observed that the situation with black people didn't go well in obama's 8 hear term. This goes as well with the indians. I think the u.n needs to interfere already. Look at whats happening in standing rock. It seems that there is very little respect being given to the indians there and there should already be intervention

IMO, the UN must impose sanctions and embargoes on the United States for mistreating the indigenous people. The irony is that the United States has imposed sanctions on dozens of nations, for their poor treatment of the minorities. In other cases, it has supported the UN embargoes against foreign nations. Examples are the embargoes against Northern Cyprus and Myanmar.

The UN have not performs its functions. This organization is either reformed or cease to exist. And before you defend the Indians need to protect the indigenous population of Russia and Ukraine. They have a life worse.

[QuestionAuthority]

Thousands of Ex Army Veterans have teamed up and are heading towards Standing Rock to protect protesters of the Dakota Access pipeline from Police brutality. Now, Wood Jr. and Clark Jr. are organizing mass non-violent protection against police violence on protesters in North Dakota.

“This country is repressing our people,” says Michael A. Wood Jr., a Marine Corps veteran who recently retired from the Baltimore police force to work toward reforming law enforcement. “If we’re going to be heroes, if we’re really going to be those veterans that this country praises, well, then we need to do the things that we actually said we’re going to do when we took the oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic,” he asserted about his plans to go to Standing Rock.Woods Jr. is joined by Wes Clark Jr. Clark Jr. is the son of General Wesley Clark, the famous military leader who once warned that shortly after 9/11, the government had its eyes on Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Clark would later attempt to distance himself from those statements but still managed to convince his son, a member of the Army at the time, to stay away from Iraq.“I was like, ‘I’m going back in. I’m going to go in there and fuck people up,’” Clark Jr. recalls of his desire to fight for the military after 9/11. He later changed his mind after his father warned him, as Task and Purpose summarized, “that as a soldier he would be fighting a war that had nothing to do with defeating al Qaeda.”

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/us/veterans-stand-for-standing-rock-trnd/index.html

[rexxarofmoknathal]

Unfortunately, getting them involved is not the solution, and could end up causing more conflict than the resolve. The UN sure has a track record for it...

The only thing that can be done is to join them and give them all of our support, force the government to address the issue. Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.

[QuestionAuthority]

Unfortunately, getting them involved is not the solution, and could end up causing more conflict than the resolve. The UN sure has a track record for it...

The only thing that can be done is to join them and give them all of our support, force the government to address the issue. Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.

Really? I didn't know that about Canada. The women just go missing and no one does anything?

[rexxarofmoknathal]

Unfortunately, getting them involved is not the solution, and could end up causing more conflict than the resolve. The UN sure has a track record for it...

The only thing that can be done is to join them and give them all of our support, force the government to address the issue. Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.

Really? I didn't know that about Canada. The women just go missing and no one does anything?

Sorry, I should say missing and murdered*, though the missing cases make up over a fifth, which is a pretty horrifying number. There's also a lot of uncertainty as to what the true numbers are, some speculate that they are much, much higher than those being reported. 

But yes, aboriginal women experience much higher rates than other women. I saw a statistic that said only 4% of women in Canada are Indigenous, but they make up over 10% of female homicides. Another pretty shocking thing to note is that over half of the cases are believed to involve people who were complete strangers to these women, or simply acquaintances.

It isn't necessarily that nobody does anything, it's that they don't do enough. The police have often been criticized that they lead very poor and inadequate investigations into the matters, and the records they created after the fact are hardly ever complete. And the government up until a few years ago stated that they would launch further investigations if they felt they were needed, which never became a reality.

Trudeau has finally prioritized that now that he has taken the role of PM. Investigations are supposed to have started, with all parties backing the inquiry. Hopefully something positive comes of this, these communities desperately need it.

[clickerz]

IMO, the UN must impose sanctions and embargoes on the United States for mistreating the indigenous people. The irony is that the United States has imposed sanctions on dozens of nations, for their poor treatment of the minorities. In other cases, it has supported the UN embargoes against foreign nations. Examples are the embargoes against Northern Cyprus and Myanmar.

The UN have not performs its functions. This organization is either reformed or cease to exist. And before you defend the Indians need to protect the indigenous population of Russia and Ukraine. They have a life worse.

Well if UN is fair to all, they should investigate if human rights is violated. Though America is acting as a world police, but violations is also happening in their backyard. Its an awkward moment that will complicate the situation for America if UN investigate.

[bryant.coleman]

Stuff up here in Canada is no better; alarmingly high suicide rates in their communities, insane amounts of missing aboriginal women cases that the government has been saying they would "investigate" for the past decade... it's really tragic and disgusting how neglected they are.

Yeah... nowadays I am reading a lot about how bad the situation is for the indigenous people in Canada. In both Canada and the United States, the native Americans are the most neglected and poorest racial group. They are even worse off than the illegal immigrants. Alcoholism and drug abuse is destroying the entire communities.

[QuestionAuthority]

That's crazy about Canada. I had no idea. That's an even better reason for the UN to investigate the human rights violations for, I guess, all of North America. One of the primary goals of the UN is to investigate and alleviate suffering and human rights concerns. Maybe they're just afraid to step on the toes of their boss the president of the United States.

Thank you all for commenting in this thread BTW. I emailed a link for this thread to Prince Zeid bin Ra’ad Zeid al-Hussein the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights and Ban Ki-moon the Secretary-General of the United Nations. Let's see if they care enough about human rights to investigate one of the big boys.

[Sithara007]

IMO, at least within the Indian reservation, the sovereignty should be handed to the native people. The US government and police must stay away from the reservations. The Indians can form a police force within these places, to maintain security.

[QuestionAuthority]

IMO, at least within the Indian reservation, the sovereignty should be handed to the native people. The US government and police must stay away from the reservations. The Indians can form a police force within these places, to maintain security.

Their sovereignty is similar to the individual states in the US. They have control unless the federal government has the only authority (like printing money or negotiating with foreign nations, only the federal govt can print money). They call the tribes "domestic dependent nations". They are in control of everything NOT specifically granted to the federal government by the constitution.

That sounds great until you realize in the past 250 years the federal government has managed to create federal authority over almost everything. Here's an example: The constitution clearly lists the individual freedoms of all citizens. I think everyone in the world that knows anything about the good old U. S. of A. knows this. However, after the Patriot Act, if I'm a federal cop and want to step all over your individual freedoms I just utter these magic words "you are a terrorist" and your freedoms are gone. You no longer have the right to a trial, no free speech, can't contact anyone and I can put you in prison for the rest of your life and no one will even know where you are. God bless America, eh. LOL

In the USA there is tribal police. The problem is, they report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (a federal govt agency) and are supervised and usurped by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If a city cop finds a murder and the FBI wants to handle it they just tell the city cops to go away. Same thing with tribal police. Their powers are limited to non federal crimes. They're more like meter maids issuing tickets than cops.

They act a little like the Corrections Corporation of America. The CCA hires cops (corrections officers) and controls them like a regular police department but they have no authority outside of the prison and are controlled and funded by the government.

[Sithara007]

In the USA there is tribal police. The problem is, they report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (a federal govt agency) and are supervised and usurped by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If a city cop finds a murder and the FBI wants to handle it they just tell the city cops to go away. Same thing with tribal police. Their powers are limited to non federal crimes. They're more like meter maids issuing tickets than cops.

From what I have heard, the tribal police has near-zero power. Even if a violent crime (such as murder or rape) occurs inside the reservation, the tribal police can arrest the perpetrator only if both the victim and the perpetrator is Indian. Else, they must call in the state police.

[QuestionAuthority]

In the USA there is tribal police. The problem is, they report to the Bureau of Indian Affairs (a federal govt agency) and are supervised and usurped by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. If a city cop finds a murder and the FBI wants to handle it they just tell the city cops to go away. Same thing with tribal police. Their powers are limited to non federal crimes. They're more like meter maids issuing tickets than cops.

From what I have heard, the tribal police has near-zero power. Even if a violent crime (such as murder or rape) occurs inside the reservation, the tribal police can arrest the perpetrator only if both the victim and the perpetrator is Indian. Else, they must call in the state police.

Yes, it is sad. We treat them like children.