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Title: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: yueno on December 03, 2016, 04:48:08 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: notyours on May 23, 2017, 10:13:33 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Until this day crime of drugs isn't stop :( how bad for my country can't get rid of drugs apocalypse, i hope there will be more better way in near future to solved this, i hope our president will not give up.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Okurkabinladin on May 23, 2017, 10:48:20 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

The dead line is symbolic signal for the population, that the administration wont cut any corners in combating drug barons. System, that completely eradicates crime is impossible, as it would deny free will to it citizens, depriving them of humanity.

So there, it is symbolic.

With that said, Dutertes policies apparantly brought long awaited results.

    Reduction in index crime: 28.57%
    July 2015 to March 2016: 134,958
    July 2016 to March 2017: 96,398
    Reduction in drug market: 26.45%

Source is Philippine Information Agency.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: joebrook on May 23, 2017, 10:54:34 AM
His policies have brought the success that he needs but he can't completely eradicate drugs that's highly impossible. I think he should also try alternative ways of eradicating drugs because his current strategy is very brutal.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 23, 2017, 11:12:09 AM
To be fair, he did a lot of things to combat the drug menace. Tens of thousands of drug peddlers were arrested along with the top drug kingpins. The crime rate has come down. I don't agree with the policy of murdering the peddlers and addicts, but Duterte proved that he is courageous. He did what needs to be done.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Kemarit on May 24, 2017, 07:06:19 AM
For me his promise to get rise of drugs in our country is still not yet fulfilled although is has reduced to significant numbers. Many big time drug suppliers were either killed or imprisoned. But I believed that there is still drugs specially in the province. I think he should do his promise until the end of his terms. Philippines has already a worsening drug problem when he came into office so I doubt a lot can be done in 6 months. Although the EJK continue to haunt his administration, for me he did a better job to combat drugs as compared to previous administrations.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Quietman on May 24, 2017, 07:47:51 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.


we need to trust our president Duterte to resolve this problem in illegal drugs that cause different crime in our country. President Duterte is the only president of the Philippines initiate stop illegal drugs on our country. He is the only president declare war on drugs. Hoping in his tern as president He resolve this illegal activities not only in drug but in all aspect of crime in our country.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: gabmen on May 24, 2017, 10:20:41 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.


we need to trust our president Duterte to resolve this problem in illegal drugs that cause different crime in our country. President Duterte is the only president of the Philippines initiate stop illegal drugs on our country. He is the only president declare war on drugs. Hoping in his tern as president He resolve this illegal activities not only in drug but in all aspect of crime in our country.

I don't think a lot of people really expected any of that to become true within that short time. the thing he has a vision and the guts to implement that vision no matter what many think about him. duterte's been under fire from many human rights groups be it local or international and if that would be a lesser leader, he'd succumb to it. but the guy's tough as nails and I think he's been getting a lot of respect from other countries than the previous president


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: ElBlaze on May 24, 2017, 10:45:35 AM
Duterte promised to eliminate drug use in 6 months, Trump promised to build a wall on the Mexican border, all shockvalue promises to make yourself more likeable to the public. To be honest he could probably get rid of drug use in 6 weeks, but it would be a most ugly show to watch. If he can fulfill his promise in more time but with less violence it's always the better option, but I fear that's just not his thing.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: KroFly on May 24, 2017, 10:53:45 AM
To be fair, he did a lot of things to combat the drug menace. Tens of thousands of drug peddlers were arrested along with the top drug kingpins. The crime rate has come down. I don't agree with the policy of murdering the peddlers and addicts, but Duterte proved that he is courageous. He did what needs to be done.

Yes, he is very brave in the struggle for a healthy nation. Some measures are too cruel, but it will stop the spread of this dirt in at least one country.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: matuson on May 24, 2017, 01:35:24 PM
He not only will free the country from drugs, but now he enters the military situation in the country. This suggests that he provoked a civil war. Now those who supported him will be the loudest to scream help we have been deceived. As is always the case with fools.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Gastotade on May 24, 2017, 01:44:54 PM
He not only will free the country from drugs, but now he enters the military situation in the country. This suggests that he provoked a civil war. Now those who supported him will be the loudest to scream help we have been deceived. As is always the case with fools.

I think some political leader that against duterte administration are behind the terrorists group. They just making havoc on mindanao so that they can test duterte capacity on handling problems and find holes so that they can impeach him.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on May 30, 2017, 08:43:15 AM
Duterte promised to eliminate drug use in 6 months, Trump promised to build a wall on the Mexican border, all shockvalue promises to make yourself more likeable to the public. To be honest he could probably get rid of drug use in 6 weeks, but it would be a most ugly show to watch. If he can fulfill his promise in more time but with less violence it's always the better option, but I fear that's just not his thing.

No matter how much violence he use, it is not possible to wipe-out the drug trade. There are millions of drug users there, and as long as the demand exists, supply will also be there. If violence is used, then there will be a lot of collateral damage as well.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: matrix zion on May 30, 2017, 09:01:03 AM
To be fair, he did a lot of things to combat the drug menace. Tens of thousands of drug peddlers were arrested along with the top drug kingpins. The crime rate has come down. I don't agree with the policy of murdering the peddlers and addicts, but Duterte proved that he is courageous. He did what needs to be done.

Yeah sure. Ordering his soldiers to kill thousands of people, how brave is he yeah?

He's not courageous. He's just a dictator and nothing else.
Oh I'm not saying it's not a good way to get rid of the problem... But there is no bravery here.

He's acting like all previous dictators.
He uses his absolute power in the way he thinks is the best.
Exactly like Napoleon, Hitler, Mao, Kadhafi... And all the previous dictators.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: kidoseagle0312 on May 30, 2017, 10:33:53 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
He maybe fulfill it depending on the response of their police men in the country of the Philippines. Or even He may not complete it He can surely fulfill and resolve the illegal drugs by 80 to 90% percentage average.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Ali Jean Macen on May 30, 2017, 10:54:32 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

I don't think it's possible but if it is then it's good but no matter how many months it will take, we can't deny that he is actually doing his job and he is doing it very well. I mean how many drug addicts and pushers did his movement has put into jail. He has done something amazing already and we can't deny that.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Xester on May 30, 2017, 11:31:31 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Duterte cannot solve the drug problem in the Philippines within that span of time. Drug problems has been already rooted deeply in the society for how many years and there are many government officials and workers that are involve in it. The drug eradication can only be realized if those people in the government can be taken out. But President Duterte has made the streets more safer, even though he cannot eradicate drug problems in 100% but he has decreased the number of users and peddlers in a large scale.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: suddenblow on May 30, 2017, 11:37:08 AM
Duterte promised to eliminate drug use in 6 months, Trump promised to build a wall on the Mexican border, all shockvalue promises to make yourself more likeable to the public. To be honest he could probably get rid of drug use in 6 weeks, but it would be a most ugly show to watch. If he can fulfill his promise in more time but with less violence it's always the better option, but I fear that's just not his thing.

No matter how much violence he use, it is not possible to wipe-out the drug trade. There are millions of drug users there, and as long as the demand exists, supply will also be there. If violence is used, then there will be a lot of collateral damage as well.

Yea, he can decrease the use in general, but mostly he'll succeed in skyrocketing the price of drugs. This will eventually make the business so lucrative that many people won't care for the dangers and there will always be someone supplying some amounts of drugs in hopes of getting rich quickly.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: ru30 on May 30, 2017, 02:42:47 PM
Duterte promised to eliminate drug use in 6 months, Trump promised to build a wall on the Mexican border, all shockvalue promises to make yourself more likeable to the public. To be honest he could probably get rid of drug use in 6 weeks, but it would be a most ugly show to watch. If he can fulfill his promise in more time but with less violence it's always the better option, but I fear that's just not his thing.

No matter how much violence he use, it is not possible to wipe-out the drug trade. There are millions of drug users there, and as long as the demand exists, supply will also be there. If violence is used, then there will be a lot of collateral damage as well.

Yea, he can decrease the use in general, but mostly he'll succeed in skyrocketing the price of drugs. This will eventually make the business so lucrative that many people won't care for the dangers and there will always be someone supplying some amounts of drugs in hopes of getting rich quickly.

I do believe he can do it. He already showed the masses on how to get rid of it yet we can't deny the fact that the problem is there from the start. So, it's up to us now people if we could obey the rules and coordinate with his legacy. Duterte is real and real change has come.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Horserg on May 30, 2017, 02:55:47 PM
He also promised to get rid of corruption, but it's still very much rampant until today. I like his guts and his love for his country, but really he needs to be less impulsive than he is now. Davao may be the largest city by surface area, but it is not the Philippines. He hasn't proven yet that what he can do in his town he can do for the Philippines.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: GreenBits on May 30, 2017, 03:22:18 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Duterte cannot solve the drug problem in the Philippines within that span of time. Drug problems has been already rooted deeply in the society for how many years and there are many government officials and workers that are involve in it. The drug eradication can only be realized if those people in the government can be taken out. But President Duterte has made the streets more safer, even though he cannot eradicate drug problems in 100% but he has decreased the number of users and peddlers in a large scale.
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I'm American. Our coffers allocated for fighting this problem are tremendous, bigger than the GDPs of some small nations, yet our opiod epidemic has only grown on the face of our increasing efforts to stems the tide of drugs, and educate users on the dangers of the drug, preventing addiction in the first place. Our enemy is the doctor, that prescribed these drugs becuase they got a bonus to do so, not understanding that their patients would be addicted to said substances after treatment. You can't kill this problem. It has to actually be fixed, and it's honestly a problem that is borne of the attitude of the populace, not the availability of drugs. Bored/sad people use hard drugs. Drugs cost money. Money isn't so free flowing nowadays. You need to be addicted to a substance to waste money supporting a habit. The Chinese triads are feeling your addictions; our government is subsidizing ours, through subsidy of the pharmaceutical industry.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Lancusters on May 31, 2017, 05:17:27 PM
When you write it you know at least one case when the doctor made his patient addict. Addicts usually use drugs which are produced in clandestine laboratories. Pharmacists have invented for yourself replacement therapy, but this is irrelevant to medicine.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: GreenBits on May 31, 2017, 07:45:02 PM
When you write it you know at least one case when the doctor made his patient addict. Addicts usually use drugs which are produced in clandestine laboratories. Pharmacists have invented for yourself replacement therapy, but this is irrelevant to medicine.

Are you being sarcastic? I'm deadly serious.

https://qz.com/866771/drug-wholesalers-shipped-9-million-opioid-painkillers-over-two-years-to-a-single-west-virginia-pharmacy/

As the number of deaths attributed to overdoses on legal opioid painkillers have quadrupled since 1999 in the US, pharmaceutical distributors have been quietly stocking pharmacy shelves with these pills in areas where addiction is the highest.
Reporters at the Charleston Gazette-Mail in West Virginia analyzed shipment data from the US Food and Drug Administration and found three major drug manufacturing companies—McKesson, Cardinal Health, and AmerisourceBergen—made $17 billion by sending 423 million opioid painkillers to West Virginia between 2007 and 2012. Six of the 55 counties in West Virginia have the highest death tolls resulting from opioid addiction in the country. Over six years, almost 2,000 patients died from overdoses on hydrocodone and oxycontin pills in those counties.

I'm sure they didn't notice they were sending enough pills that every citizen in the county could have had a prescription. And I'm sure the doctors that prescribed those pills were making legitimate prescriptions; it must really hurt to live in WV.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/24/health/cherokee-nation-opioid-lawsuit/

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/health/senate-opioid-manufacturer-investigation/

Here it is from the Fox's mouth, if you like that sort of thing (I don't really fuck with that right there ;) )

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/01/15/documentary-on-convicted-doc-highlights-providers-role-in-opioid-epidemic.html


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/30/opinion/doctors-will-play-a-critical-role-in-the-opioid-epidemic.html


Where do you think the drugs came from? Do you think someone just stumbled onto meth one day after mixing up cough medicine and household cleaning supplies? Drugs may be manufactured clandestinely, but they originated from the pharmaceutical industry. I've said this before on the thread.

Opiods:
It was from opium that morphine, a derivative, was developed as a pain killer in approximately 1810. It was considered a wonder drug because it eliminated severe pain associated with medical operations or traumatic injuries. It left the user in a completely numb euphoric dream-state. Because of the intense euphoric side effects, the drug in 1811 was named after the Greek god of dreams, Morpheus, by Dr. F.W.A. Serturner, a German pharmacist. By the mid 1850’s, morphine was available in the United States and became more and more popular with the medical profession. The benefits of using the drug to treat severe pain was considered nothing short of remarkable to doctors of the time. Unfortunately, the addictive properties of the drug, on the flip side, went virtually unnoticed until after the Civil War.

Cocaine:

Cocaine was first isolated (extracted from coca leaves) in 1859 by German chemist Albert Niemann. It was not until the 1880s that it started to be popularized in the medical community.

MDMA:

MDMA was first made in 1912.[14] It was used to improve psychotherapy beginning in the 1970s and became popular as a street drug in the 1980s.[14][15][17]

MDMA was first synthesized in 1912 by Merck chemist Anton Köllisch. At the time, Merck was interested in developing substances that stopped abnormal bleeding. Merck wanted to avoid an existing patent held by Bayer for one such compound: hydrastinine.

Meth:

Methamphetamine was synthesized by a middle-aged, respectable Japanese chemist named Nagai Nagayoshi in 1893.

A member of the Meiji Japanese elite, Nagayoshi devoted much of his energy to the chemical analysis of traditional Japanese and Chinese medicines using the tools of Western science. In 1885, Nagai isolated the stimulant ephedrine from Ephedra sinica, a plant long used in Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine.

Drug epidemics always start somewhere. And honestly, if you look hard enough. You will find they almost always orignate at the corporate/state actor level. Drugs don't move across borders as easy as you think, in significant amounts.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: NJB18 on May 31, 2017, 08:06:06 PM
I don't mind about exactly when the promise will be delivered fully. It is being acted upon already and a lot of development was happening. I believe our President, I prayed 4 years ago that hopefully he will lead our nation and here he is. He loves the Filipino people, he loves our county, that the major reason his doing everything he could for best interest of the people.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on June 01, 2017, 06:00:42 AM
I don't mind about exactly when the promise will be delivered fully. It is being acted upon already and a lot of development was happening. I believe our President, I prayed 4 years ago that hopefully he will lead our nation and here he is. He loves the Filipino people, he loves our county, that the major reason his doing everything he could for best interest of the people.

Such politicians are very rare, and therefore it is not surprising to see a lot of people supporting him in the Philippines. Being nice to anyone is considered as a good trait. But when tough situations arise, you can't behave like that. Those who only understand the language of the gun must be dealt using that language.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: GideonGono on June 28, 2017, 11:10:40 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Elliminate drugs is so very hard to do why? Because he is only human. Some country like china is export drug from the Philippine but i didn't know how drugs can easy go to Philippines but there are such factory in Philippines that is not easily to find that's why Philippines need more security.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Mometaskers on June 28, 2017, 01:15:50 PM
Welp, he even have a bigger problem now. It's already been a month since he declared martial law and martial law without permission from Congress can last only up to 60 days. Once that run out without him fixing this, that's definitely going to cause a political crisis here. His allies are becoming quite arrogant with the way they treat minority members and when things go bad, they could expect a stronger push.

Failure to solve this would also break the "macho" image his trying to portray. That his disappearance from public is become longer and more frequent isn't helping quell rumors about his health condition.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: tikalbong on June 28, 2017, 04:01:41 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Don't be ridiculous my friend, counting down down the days will never help.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Peregrines on June 29, 2017, 01:34:35 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on June 29, 2017, 01:49:22 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.

So far the signs are good. Most of the drug kingpins have either fled the country or have been apprehended. The number of drug addicts has declined, and so has the crime rate. The challenge is now to maintain these levels.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: GreenBits on June 29, 2017, 02:38:02 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.

So far the signs are good. Most of the drug kingpins have either fled the country or have been apprehended. The number of drug addicts has declined, and so has the crime rate. The challenge is now to maintain these levels.

But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Xester on June 29, 2017, 03:19:03 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.

So far the signs are good. Most of the drug kingpins have either fled the country or have been apprehended. The number of drug addicts has declined, and so has the crime rate. The challenge is now to maintain these levels.

But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.


I do not think you are living in the Philippines that is why it is easy for you to say this things.  We feel safer now more than ever.  People around the world would not mind when innocent people dies in the hands of these drug addicts.  But would care and more concerned when drug addicts were killed and concerned about the abandoned families.  We are okay and we will support our President.  Mind yourself.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sadlife on June 29, 2017, 03:29:53 AM
I think it is impossible to get rid completely of crimes in any country or world as long as humanity exist there will be always be fights, endless wars and violence but what we can do is to stop it from spreading like a disease that is destroying a country like stopping bad guys from doing whatever they want as long we have good people that runs our justice system a prosperous and peaceful country might not be to impossible to achieve as long as the justice is working properly. It might be possible to have a drug free country.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: GreenBits on June 29, 2017, 03:41:38 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.

So far the signs are good. Most of the drug kingpins have either fled the country or have been apprehended. The number of drug addicts has declined, and so has the crime rate. The challenge is now to maintain these levels.

But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.


I do not think you are living in the Philippines that is why it is easy for you to say this things.  We feel safer now more than ever.  People around the world would not mind when innocent people dies in the hands of these drug addicts.  But would care and more concerned when drug addicts were killed and concerned about the abandoned families.  We are okay and we will support our President.  Mind yourself.

I'm not trying to be rude, but do you think you are the only country with a drug epidemic?

And have you ever used an illegal substance? I have, many types, and a lot of them.

Support your President. It doesn't make the shit right, simply Democratic.

And your culture will learn the implications in the next few decades of 'the war on drugs'. I hope it works as well for you as it worked out for us. Your children will bemoan the civil liberties you gave up to feel 'safe' ;)

Mind yourself. :) you will never justify the killing of a sick person for expediency, to me. fix the underlying problems that engender drug use in your society. Educate. This fosters change in a generation, an ideology that will grow and persist. Or, you can shoot people in the streets like fucking dogs, not even incarcerating them. Because a one time mistake (slipping into addiction) is a swell reason to leave this earth badly, right?

And if your kid (I doubt you have any, you seem to lack compassion) falls in with the wrong crowd or gets tricked into the enslavement that an addictive substance is, well, let's hope those hard men that would judge his fate, don't judge him too harshly :(


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on June 29, 2017, 03:43:02 AM
But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.

At least we can hope that these deaths will not go in vain. A few thousand deaths now will hopefully prevent an even greater number of deaths in the future. I won't call it a genocide, since they are not targeting any particular ethnic group or religious community.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Edrian on June 29, 2017, 03:46:17 AM
It's not an easy task especially if some members of the Republic won't cooperate, but look at what he did within a past few months, thousand of the drug user and pushers are lessened it takes some time to get rid of remaining abusers but it will be done. I believe at our President. It was a rough time especially there was a conflict happening in marawi.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: GreenBits on June 29, 2017, 04:00:45 AM
But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.

At least we can hope that these deaths will not go in vain. A few thousand deaths now will hopefully prevent an even greater number of deaths in the future. I won't call it a genocide, since they are not targeting any particular ethnic group or religious community.

That why I gave it the unintentional qualifier; it may not target a particular ethnicity of culture, but if it effects one group disproportionately, then genocide it is. I equate it with the inadvertent aparthied going on in Israel/Palestine. Not the aim, but the effects are chilling.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Lenzie on June 29, 2017, 04:04:03 AM
I also think this is impossible to do, specially the focus of everyone is about Marawi's chaotic disaster. But the reduction rate of crime and drugs is very promising that soon it is not possible to eliminate but not in a very short period of time.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Makka on June 29, 2017, 04:07:02 AM
I think the duration provided is not literal. No single country has successfully eliminated drugs ever. That is the truth. So there is no argument as to the number of days. That was simply a case of exaggeration to bring to the people the message that this administration under Duterte is serious in its war against illegal drugs. The message is rather clear. And the actions of this administration to flush out drugs are all there. They are walking the talk. But can we expect that the Philippines will end up a zero-drug nation? No, of course. But it will be lessened to the minimum.

Kudos to this administration! Kudos to all your efforts!


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Arahara0230 on June 29, 2017, 09:33:16 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
I'm happy what president duterte doing on solving illegal drugs in the philippines, but I don't think hr can do it ina a short period of time. He dne great on minimizing it, he done great.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on June 29, 2017, 12:06:42 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
I'm happy what president duterte doing on solving illegal drugs in the philippines, but I don't think hr can do it ina a short period of time. He dne great on minimizing it, he done great.

So far, he has done a great job, despite opposition from a lot of powerful sources. Even the European Union and the former United States president Barack Obama were against him. But he is determined to finish the job which he has started.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: masterwakokok7 on June 29, 2017, 01:40:49 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Until this day crime of drugs isn't stop :( how bad for my country can't get rid of drugs apocalypse, i hope there will be more better way in near future to solved this, i hope our president will not give up.

Drugs can't be stop and there's no way to stop it. President Duterte's term will for only 6 years, and it depends on the next administration if he/she will continue the fight. But to be honest even we hope for a better country or drug free country, it's far from reality. Syndicates and any other cartels will never stop producing and distributing it.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: iluvpie60 on June 29, 2017, 02:49:47 PM
They should certainly kill the people selling drugs, like people who are at a high or mid level for sure just need to die. Their country is so overrun with corruption in the police and government and it is due to the drug money.

The only way to get rid of it is to impose long jail sentences for those who are low level sellers, kill the mid  or higher people through public executions broadcast on tv. Make a new cultulral movement that demonizes drugs more.

On the flip side, drug users are addicts in their brain and need treatment, don't kill them. They need to be helped not punished. A drug user has a chemical imbalance in their brain they are born with usually. They cannot help that for the most part.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Lieldoryn on June 29, 2017, 02:52:26 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
I'm happy what president duterte doing on solving illegal drugs in the philippines, but I don't think hr can do it ina a short period of time. He dne great on minimizing it, he done great.

So far, he has done a great job, despite opposition from a lot of powerful sources. Even the European Union and the former United States president Barack Obama were against him. But he is determined to finish the job which he has started.
What do you consider a big job? I don't see any results from activities of Duterte. His goal was not a drug, and the building of a totalitarian regime. For this reason, it is supported by Russians and for this reason, it is nothing but misery will not bring to the Philippines.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: target on June 29, 2017, 03:36:55 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
I'm happy what president duterte doing on solving illegal drugs in the philippines, but I don't think hr can do it ina a short period of time. He dne great on minimizing it, he done great.

So far, he has done a great job, despite opposition from a lot of powerful sources. Even the European Union and the former United States president Barack Obama were against him. But he is determined to finish the job which he has started.
What do you consider a big job? I don't see any results from activities of Duterte. His goal was not a drug, and the building of a totalitarian regime. For this reason, it is supported by Russians and for this reason, it is nothing but misery will not bring to the Philippines.

We were once with Military government and Philippines was powerful during those times, there were reports that the neighboring countries were scared with our strongman but after Marcos, it was also the downfall of our economy. Military Government has proven to be better.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: masterwakokok7 on June 30, 2017, 12:41:34 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
I'm happy what president duterte doing on solving illegal drugs in the philippines, but I don't think hr can do it ina a short period of time. He dne great on minimizing it, he done great.

So far, he has done a great job, despite opposition from a lot of powerful sources. Even the European Union and the former United States president Barack Obama were against him. But he is determined to finish the job which he has started.
What do you consider a big job? I don't see any results from activities of Duterte. His goal was not a drug, and the building of a totalitarian regime. For this reason, it is supported by Russians and for this reason, it is nothing but misery will not bring to the Philippines.
You don't see? or you just don't want to see? Crimes related to Drugs are now depreciating cartels and syndicates are now trying stay off the radar of the administration. Do you have a proof or hard facts regarding the your claim?


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on June 30, 2017, 01:34:43 AM
So far, he has done a great job, despite opposition from a lot of powerful sources. Even the European Union and the former United States president Barack Obama were against him. But he is determined to finish the job which he has started.
What do you consider a big job? I don't see any results from activities of Duterte. His goal was not a drug, and the building of a totalitarian regime. For this reason, it is supported by Russians and for this reason, it is nothing but misery will not bring to the Philippines.

Ahh... here we go again. For Ukrainians like you, the major issue here is the support he receives from the Russians. If you know the Russian mentality, then you won't be surprised. Russians respect people with strong will power. That is why they abhor Obama and respect Duterte.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: freedomno1 on June 30, 2017, 07:22:25 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

It's an impossible mission to stop all illegal drug activity, but in terms of solving the main problem he has done a heck of a good job on that metric, with issues of course but they are necessary ones as the Phillippines is not like some first world countries that can afford drug rehab clinics and go about treating the symptom (Drug addicts) but not the disease to a large extent (Dealers). In order to resolve that reducing supply and forcing demand aka prices up decreases the market ideally but well we will see how that pans out, public support is high though for this top level scrubbing at least, the underground will take more time to clean up.
It also is clearing up some of the internal corruption although a lot of that still exists given the temptation of high salaries to corrupt officers to turn a blind eye to their dealings.

Although I'm sure the Triads and US ones are not that happy he is messing with their business and are pressuring some of the higher echelons to stop him.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: U.R.O.K on June 30, 2017, 08:03:14 AM
drugs is also a part corruptions the enforcer protected the drug lord or a small pusher... president duterte campaign against drugs and corruptions..
also a politician are involve in drugs... i hope drug lord and politician go to jail.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Jordan23 on July 01, 2017, 03:33:51 AM
So Duterte kills people on suspicion of drug use with no trial for it to be proven? And you all are cheering him on? Unbelievable what people support. What if you get on his list of enemies for any reason and they kill you and say you had drugs?


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Shamie1002 on July 01, 2017, 08:20:58 AM
Pres. Duterte did promise us through his comrade or his VP in his party during the elections of eliminating drugs or a drug free country. He did well, even if his way of doing it is voilently unacceptible. He made our country much safer.   In my opinion, drug users were less and now I know there are some still hiding but now shaking in fear.
He did his task even from the start we all knew that it is impossible to entirely free our country. And as we filipinos all know that there are other problems that our country is facing. Like Terrorism, corruption and transportation problems. Do you expect him to solve it in just a year or so ?
We see what that he is trying his best for us. I hope that we just cooperate.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: matuson on July 01, 2017, 09:06:06 AM
Pres. Duterte did promise us through his comrade or his VP in his party during the elections of eliminating drugs or a drug free country. He did well, even if his way of doing it is voilently unacceptible. He made our country much safer.   In my opinion, drug users were less and now I know there are some still hiding but now shaking in fear.
He did his task even from the start we all knew that it is impossible to entirely free our country. And as we filipinos all know that there are other problems that our country is facing. Like Terrorism, corruption and transportation problems. Do you expect him to solve it in just a year or so ?
We see what that he is trying his best for us. I hope that we just cooperate.
When you have time read the story and you will understand that cooperation with the dictator was not in vain. When the repressive apparatus is debugged, it will start to destroy not only enemies, but also their supporters.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: icerose on July 01, 2017, 09:12:33 AM
So Duterte kills people on suspicion of drug use with no trial for it to be proven? And you all are cheering him on? Unbelievable what people support. What if you get on his list of enemies for any reason and they kill you and say you had drugs?

He is only killing the poor, people sitting in their comfortable chairs at home in a gated subdivision or working abroad will be happy because it affects everyone else and not them.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Dadan on July 01, 2017, 10:00:56 AM
So he can do that because he helps dela rosa to change his life in the Philippines, the case is still a lot of really addictive people think that people do not have to work because the addicts do not get rid of them.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: skymberloh on July 01, 2017, 10:29:29 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

The dead line is symbolic signal for the population, that the administration wont cut any corners in combating drug barons. System, that completely eradicates crime is impossible, as it would deny free will to it citizens, depriving them of humanity.

So there, it is symbolic.

With that said, Dutertes policies apparantly brought long awaited results.

    Reduction in index crime: 28.57%
    July 2015 to March 2016: 134,958
    July 2016 to March 2017: 96,398
    Reduction in drug market: 26.45%

Source is Philippine Information Agency.

Duterte is a history. He captured, arrested or even killed people who are involve with drug syndicate which is drug is a part of corruption. By the time he seats many drug lords and drug pusher are being punished.The crime rate became low and people are careful to commit bad things.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: U.R.O.K on July 02, 2017, 02:32:31 PM
i support duterte against crimenalities,.. the pusher, drug lords, even the gov't officials,(police.politicians) how support the drugs syndicates are no place in this country, user give a chance to change and reform his/her life in rehabilitation.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: ePesoInitiative on July 02, 2017, 02:33:28 PM
Dump Duterte! FUD FUD FUD


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Babylon on July 02, 2017, 03:28:47 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

I think Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs in just a short period of time is impossible, because drug abuse is a world wide issue. and not only about philippines dealer of drugs, we have also here a foreign dealer, and some are still supplying illegal drug in our country. Its  hard job because filipino will be filipino that will never give up to commit a crime or either our army to stop this why ?  we are a human that can't be always or never do a bad. we all have sin start were born in this world.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Xester on July 02, 2017, 03:36:16 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

I think Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs in just a short period of time is impossible, because drug abuse is a world wide issue. and not only about philippines dealer of drugs, we have also here a foreign dealer, and some are still supplying illegal drug in our country. Its  hard job because filipino will be filipino that will never give up to commit a crime or either our army to stop this why ?  we are a human that can't be always or never do a bad. we all have sin start were born in this world.

Yes it is hard for the president to totally get rid of drugs in a short period of time considering that it requires time.  Many big people will he be facing.  Druglords who have all the richness in the world will not stop to do drugs because of the great income they have.  Maybe thr Philippine government should intensify its program against drug.  It should be continue.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: bcnaranjo on August 14, 2017, 07:03:32 AM
Let's  just give our President the chance. Now he is doing his best. He cannot do it alone. Government reform is very especially that the Philippines are governed with corrupt officials. Unless all government officials will cooperate on his war on drugs, the campaign will be a success.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: ruslangitelman223 on August 14, 2017, 07:46:09 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
It is difficult to say, will turn out for him or no to decide this problem. At least for that he tries to do it, people must be to him thankful. Time will show, whether he will obtain a result or no.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on August 14, 2017, 09:47:08 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
It is difficult to say, will turn out for him or no to decide this problem. At least for that he tries to do it, people must be to him thankful. Time will show, whether he will obtain a result or no.

He has already achieved 99.99% of what he wanted. What more do you want him to do? All the drug kingpins are either killed, jailed, or outside the country. The drug peddlers are either dead or in prison. The millions of drug users have checked themselves in to drug rehab centers. It was a superhuman effort from Duterte. No one else could have achieved this much.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Xester on August 14, 2017, 12:17:07 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
It is difficult to say, will turn out for him or no to decide this problem. At least for that he tries to do it, people must be to him thankful. Time will show, whether he will obtain a result or no.

He has already achieved 99.99% of what he wanted. What more do you want him to do? All the drug kingpins are either killed, jailed, or outside the country. The drug peddlers are either dead or in prison. The millions of drug users have checked themselves in to drug rehab centers. It was a superhuman effort from Duterte. No one else could have achieved this much.

Duterte promise that drugs will be rid in three months. But this not happened because of many people are using drugs. But like what he said many people had been catch with drugs will be jailed or killed. Some drug users surrender themselves in the police so they can get treatment. And I think this is already a good sign of change is coming in the Philippines. Even he didn't meet the three months of drug free, he already did a good job for the Philippines.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Psalms23 on August 15, 2017, 12:15:43 AM
His policies have brought the success that he needs but he can't completely eradicate drugs that's highly impossible. I think he should also try alternative ways of eradicating drugs because his current strategy is very brutal.

I think his current brutal strategy is fine. Those druglord are hardened criminals. There's no talking to them. If you send them to prison, they can still operate and corrupt everyone in jail with money including officials. Every minute they are alive means corruption and people in danger with the use of prohibited drugs.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: SushiMonster on August 15, 2017, 01:49:08 AM
The problem is why Philippines is not improving is because the people are not cooperating,
A lot of critiques and bashers are so pessimistic it's actually annoying.
The present government and president are trying their best to solve this country's problem, but a lot of people is so negative they don't even contribute that much to the society.
I support the advocacy of this present government but I'm not a fanatic of him either.
However, I see people bashing on him and only look at this failures - these people are cancers to the society.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: tweetbit on August 15, 2017, 02:39:45 AM
It is not wrong to promise something you want to achieve, if in reality it is not met the important thing is you have given your best. A man like President Duterte does what he have to do and trying to make our country a better place for Filipinos.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on August 15, 2017, 04:21:05 AM
It is not wrong to promise something you want to achieve, if in reality it is not met the important thing is you have given your best. A man like President Duterte does what he have to do and trying to make our country a better place for Filipinos.

Duterte seems to be a genuine guy, who is honest about his intentions. As someone who lives far away from the Philippines, I have a great deal of respect for him. And he is the most famous Filipino whom I have heard about. A drug free Philippines is great news, even for people who live outside that country.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: mevmike on August 15, 2017, 05:40:30 AM
even before his deadline ended i was already thinking that he cannot totally end the drug problems in the philippines..
3 to 6 months is a very short time, but despite of these i still support him...
He may not have totally ended the drug problem, but as of now we can see a huge difference it the problem as we compare it to the past administrations...


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Senkuli on August 15, 2017, 06:04:59 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
I think the possibility that he will succeed in eradicating illegal drugs, he is a president who is quite firm and disciplined, but for the program he created to be successful of course the entire apparatus and the community must also support and participate according to their respective portions so that the president duterte program can succeed In doing.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: HEvangelista on August 15, 2017, 06:11:36 AM
To be fair, he did a lot of things to combat the drug menace. Tens of thousands of drug peddlers were arrested along with the top drug kingpins. The crime rate has come down. I don't agree with the policy of murdering the peddlers and addicts, but Duterte proved that he is courageous. He did what needs to be done.

Yeah sure. Ordering his soldiers to kill thousands of people, how brave is he yeah?

He's not courageous. He's just a dictator and nothing else.
Oh I'm not saying it's not a good way to get rid of the problem... But there is no bravery here.

He's acting like all previous dictators.
He uses his absolute power in the way he thinks is the best.
Exactly like Napoleon, Hitler, Mao, Kadhafi... And all the previous dictators.

Acting like all previous dictators?! You're so funny. And how did you come up with that predicament? Give me sources, facts, and numbers that is SOLID PROOF he is at par with Hitler, Napoleon and Mao when it comes to killing criminals, yes, criminals who are an evil menace. Another rant from some social justice warrior cannot erase the fact that he is doing something for the disciplined and law-abiding citizen who is not in drugs and crime.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 15, 2017, 06:25:49 AM
To be fair, he did a lot of things to combat the drug menace. Tens of thousands of drug peddlers were arrested along with the top drug kingpins. The crime rate has come down. I don't agree with the policy of murdering the peddlers and addicts, but Duterte proved that he is courageous. He did what needs to be done.

Yeah sure. Ordering his soldiers to kill thousands of people, how brave is he yeah?

He's not courageous. He's just a dictator and nothing else.
Oh I'm not saying it's not a good way to get rid of the problem... But there is no bravery here.

He's acting like all previous dictators.
He uses his absolute power in the way he thinks is the best.
Exactly like Napoleon, Hitler, Mao, Kadhafi... And all the previous dictators.

Acting like all previous dictators?! You're so funny. And how did you come up with that predicament? Give me sources, facts, and numbers that is SOLID PROOF he is at par with Hitler, Napoleon and Mao when it comes to killing criminals, yes, criminals who are an evil menace. Another rant from some social justice warrior cannot erase the fact that he is doing something for the disciplined and law-abiding citizen who is not in drugs and crime.

Comparing Duterte with Hitler can serve two purposes. The first one may be to tarnish Duterte's reputation. The second intention may be to justify the crimes committed by Hitler against the Slavs, Jews and the Roma. Anyway, let's leave all that. I have heard that the vast majority of the deaths occurred during shootouts. If the drug kingpins refuse to surrender and fire at the policemen, then what the cops are supposed to do?


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: VitKoyn on August 15, 2017, 08:27:39 AM
Its hard to say that he can meet his promise on that day but he's doing a very good job on fighting drug lord and criminals. Drug war is not an easy war this war needs cooperation starting from small community to every government officials must be clean especially to this idiots from bureau of customs


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Kotone on August 15, 2017, 02:16:30 PM
Well it's really hard to get rid off the drugs since the last administration support the illegal trades they import it from different  country which is they making money from it now that duterte administration we can't really assured that drugs will get rid even though many years will past there will be a dick head who will try to import drugs from our country but it can be minimize. Atleast the crime are lesser now not the old days.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: ndcm on August 19, 2017, 01:26:33 PM
Until this day, we are still dealing with drugs problem.
It only shows that he didn't fulfill his priomise to solve the drug issues in 3 to 6 months.
Anyway, the timeline isn't important anymore, as long as we have a goal to eliminate the drug activities
But the war on drugs is getting worst, killing criminals without due process isn't good
Extra-judicial killing is very immoral, there should be a proper investigation not only by killing with one shot
And many innocents were killed!


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 19, 2017, 01:43:11 PM
Well it's really hard to get rid off the drugs since the last administration support the illegal trades they import it from different  country which is they making money from it now that duterte administration we can't really assured that drugs will get rid even though many years will past there will be a dick head who will try to import drugs from our country but it can be minimize. Atleast the crime are lesser now not the old days.

Yes.. in the future, if Duterte is overthrown in a military coup (I don't think that the opposition is going to win elections anytime in the near future), then what you had posted can happen. But it depends on the people. Look at Turkey. Many months back, there was an attempted coup to overthrow the president. But it failed, because the people came out in the street, against the coup.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: joelou on October 11, 2017, 04:32:17 PM
Yes duterte hates drug he promise he will stop drugs here.but the war on drugs is getting worst because some of victims is inocent like teens.
We need a proper investigation before giving a search warrant on the criminals.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Stephgmnl on October 11, 2017, 05:31:52 PM
It doesnt matter how many months will take for him to get rid of drugs he is doing his best to fight drugs but there are people who are trying to bring him down,  citizens of our country who doesnt cooperate and blame it all into our president,  The problems that cause by previous administration cannot be solve in just one snap,  so rather than questioning him and criticizing our president lets ask ourselves what can we do to help him make 🇵🇭 a better country for our future generation. 


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: joebrook on October 11, 2017, 06:30:39 PM
Yes duterte hates drug he promise he will stop drugs here.but the war on drugs is getting worst because some of victims is inocent like teens.
We need a proper investigation before giving a search warrant on the criminals.
In every war, there are always casualties, the US war on terror has brought about a lot of casualties but no one is currently talking about them because the USA are the perpetrators in that matter. Duterte is doing a very good job for his country and he should go ahead.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Mertalot on October 11, 2017, 07:45:05 PM
I actually support your President! Democracy has never done good for the people. Especially in situations like this one in Phillipines calling for urgent actions


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: 23john23 on October 11, 2017, 08:32:07 PM
A promise is a promise. Yes, he did everything he could and yet it gets worst. In my opinion, war on drug is like a star from afar, you can get rid of it but it takes time. 3-6 months is not enough. The problem with President Duterte is he impulsively, confidently told us that he can do it. It's like fighting Pablo Escobar, he's one of the greatest drug dealer of all time, only one man with subordinates, and yet the president of Columbia wasted his term for that. Also, the method of what he is doing is unethical, no matter how good it might become, it's unethical. Like conducting an experiment using a human. Life will always be a life no matter how dark it is. Yes, they are liable for criminal responsibilities but always remember—they have the rights to be a human. They can't even kill a convicted drug lord and yet they can put a bullet on a commoner's head. They can't even catch the smuggler. And also, he will fight corruption? but the way he does things, it's abusing his power.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: SugoiSenpai on October 11, 2017, 10:09:35 PM
I think it will not be eradicated completely within that period of time. But as long as drugs are concerned it has greatly decreased in the Philippines and that is a huge progress within that time period of 3-6 months. Let's just keep on supporting Duterte and eventually, the Philippines drug problem will be solved.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: BTCMILLIONAIRE on October 11, 2017, 11:37:31 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
Nobody will ever be able to "solve" drug activity. Unless they literally wipe out all of humanity. And Duterte is a criminal.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on October 12, 2017, 03:14:16 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
Nobody will ever be able to "solve" drug activity. Unless they literally wipe out all of humanity. And Duterte is a criminal.

I don't like so many people getting killed. But that said, I don't think that Duterte had too many choices. He did what needs to be done. You can't combat the drugs problem with awareness alone, especially in a third world nation such as Philippines. So I'd stick to what I have said. Duterte did the right thing in using force against the drug cartels, although some of the deaths could have been avoided.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Nalbo on October 12, 2017, 03:43:22 AM
It's not getting rid of all drugs, uses and users. He literally destroyed the militarisation and industrialisation of drug dealers.
Now after that period new ways of controlling the drug use can be implemented.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: BTCMILLIONAIRE on October 12, 2017, 08:36:26 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
Nobody will ever be able to "solve" drug activity. Unless they literally wipe out all of humanity. And Duterte is a criminal.

I don't like so many people getting killed. But that said, I don't think that Duterte had too many choices. He did what needs to be done. You can't combat the drugs problem with awareness alone, especially in a third world nation such as Philippines. So I'd stick to what I have said. Duterte did the right thing in using force against the drug cartels, although some of the deaths could have been avoided.
There is no problem with drugs. The problem is the criminalization of drugs. If drugs were legal and strictly supplied by the government, there would be no issues with money laundering or crime. Governments know this, but they can make more money by criminalizing drugs, laundering the money to themselves, and by making even more money off of "drug criminals" who are used as slaves.

The smartest people in the world have taken drugs, and quite a few of them have only made their discoveries because of using drugs. Steve Jobs took LSD, the people who created the concept of DNA as a helical structure took LSD, Erdoes (one of the greatest Mathematicians of all time) took amphetamines, the list is endless.

Drugs being perceived as bad, unethical, immoral and dangerous is the result of immoral and deplorable propaganda driven purely by greed and corruption.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: mhine07 on October 12, 2017, 09:55:30 PM
Duterte cannot rid the illegal drugs even if its term end, he can only reduce the users of illegal drugs in the philippines ,in his statement that he can rid the illegal drugs in 3 to 6 months is not achieve and it takes another 6 months to do that , but he fails. From that there are many people killed because of illegal drugs , many of them are users and pushers , but the sources are were not that many of them are killed, . And most government officials from the past administration are involved in illegal drugs , and most of them are killed also.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: SamboNZ on October 12, 2017, 10:08:21 PM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
Nobody will ever be able to "solve" drug activity. Unless they literally wipe out all of humanity. And Duterte is a criminal.

I don't like so many people getting killed. But that said, I don't think that Duterte had too many choices. He did what needs to be done. You can't combat the drugs problem with awareness alone, especially in a third world nation such as Philippines. So I'd stick to what I have said. Duterte did the right thing in using force against the drug cartels, although some of the deaths could have been avoided.
There is no problem with drugs. The problem is the criminalization of drugs. If drugs were legal and strictly supplied by the government, there would be no issues with money laundering or crime. Governments know this, but they can make more money by criminalizing drugs, laundering the money to themselves, and by making even more money off of "drug criminals" who are used as slaves.

The smartest people in the world have taken drugs, and quite a few of them have only made their discoveries because of using drugs. Steve Jobs took LSD, the people who created the concept of DNA as a helical structure took LSD, Erdoes (one of the greatest Mathematicians of all time) took amphetamines, the list is endless.

Drugs being perceived as bad, unethical, immoral and dangerous is the result of immoral and deplorable propaganda driven purely by greed and corruption.

Oh please provide facts and proof for your claim not just hearsay and conspiracy theory. drugs are addictive that will ruin the body


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: galestorm on October 12, 2017, 11:27:54 PM
As much as i hate to say it but duterte cant possibly eliminate all the drug lords and addicts out there especially when there are a lot of them hiding from his sight. Another thing is that the police are being unjust in doing their jobs , some are even willing to kill those that are innocent.. setting them up for the public to know that they are using drugs, but in truth they arent. Police do this act for them to reach their quota for the day.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: BTCMILLIONAIRE on October 13, 2017, 12:04:06 AM
Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
Nobody will ever be able to "solve" drug activity. Unless they literally wipe out all of humanity. And Duterte is a criminal.

I don't like so many people getting killed. But that said, I don't think that Duterte had too many choices. He did what needs to be done. You can't combat the drugs problem with awareness alone, especially in a third world nation such as Philippines. So I'd stick to what I have said. Duterte did the right thing in using force against the drug cartels, although some of the deaths could have been avoided.
There is no problem with drugs. The problem is the criminalization of drugs. If drugs were legal and strictly supplied by the government, there would be no issues with money laundering or crime. Governments know this, but they can make more money by criminalizing drugs, laundering the money to themselves, and by making even more money off of "drug criminals" who are used as slaves.

The smartest people in the world have taken drugs, and quite a few of them have only made their discoveries because of using drugs. Steve Jobs took LSD, the people who created the concept of DNA as a helical structure took LSD, Erdoes (one of the greatest Mathematicians of all time) took amphetamines, the list is endless.

Drugs being perceived as bad, unethical, immoral and dangerous is the result of immoral and deplorable propaganda driven purely by greed and corruption.

Oh please provide facts and proof for your claim not just hearsay and conspiracy theory. drugs are addictive that will ruin the body
As far as the prominent people using drugs go, you can literally run a Google search and immediately find the results yourself, even on Wikipedia.

As far as the dangers of drugs are concerned. It's patently false that drugs in general ruin the body and there are countless studies that prove this. A good number of drugs is actually far less harmful than either of tobacco and alcohol, which both are commonly consumed by almost the entire human population.

Here are the facts: https://www.globaldrugsurvey.com/wp-content/themes/globaldrugsurvey/results/GDS2017_key-findings-report_final.pdf

And here is some info from one of the most prominent universities / academic institutions in the whole world, the Imperial College London, which proposes three (currently illegal schedule I) drugs that could transform mental health care, but so far couldn't because of the propaganda driven war on drugs: http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/medicine/newssummary/news_10-10-2016-15-46-32

In short, the most widely spread recreational drugs are safer than alcohol and tobacco and cause less damage for the body, the mind and most importantly cost the tax payer the least amounts of money.


Next time go and educate yourself instead of claiming that people who are pointing out deliberate propaganda as heretics or tinfoil hatters. People like you are the exact reason why governments keep fucking the whole population in the rear. You keep sticking it out to them after all.
If you want to read about the facts concerning the government driven propaganda, go and educate yourself on the U.S. President Nixon and research when and for what reasons exactly he started the war on drugs. It's unbelievable that even decades after his heinous crime people are still blind enough to keep eating the lies of a corrupt asshole of a dead man.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Rhona Ponse De Leon on October 13, 2017, 12:28:08 AM
Until there's a Political and Powerful perosns that supporting Illegal drugs it will not finish. but if the government support each other for war on drugs it will be done.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: zedkiel08 on October 13, 2017, 01:40:08 AM
I think he can not rid the illegal drugs activities in the philippines. There are many politicians that supports the illegal drugs activities in the country , until there are who supports the illegal drugs , duterte can not solve this problem , even if he takes another term for predisidency ,. Too many people killed in this war on drugs , mostly users and pushers of illegal drugs. And even politicians who are involved in this activity are killed.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: nelsmining on October 13, 2017, 02:29:51 AM
Big fan of the Man. Duterte is a rock star. Sure he is a little tough but I think it is probably needed at this time.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Sithara007 on October 13, 2017, 03:12:30 AM
Until there's a Political and Powerful perosns that supporting Illegal drugs it will not finish. but if the government support each other for war on drugs it will be done.

Even if there are politicians who are supporting illegal drugs, they will remain in a dormant state as long as Duterte is in power. But no one can predict what is going to happen after that. Duterte is trying his best to detain the powerful people behind the drug business. But he is having limited success, partly because some of the guys in his own party are also supporting the drug trade.


Title: Re: Duterte's promise to get rid of drugs 29 days left
Post by: Wade_Oasis on October 13, 2017, 04:16:59 AM
I think the guy is doing a great job to the country Philippines getting rid of drugs regardless of what time span has given, it doesn't matter.