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May 30, 2017, 03:22:18 PM
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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Duterte cannot solve the drug problem in the Philippines within that span of time. Drug problems has been already rooted deeply in the society for how many years and there are many government officials and workers that are involve in it. The drug eradication can only be realized if those people in the government can be taken out. But President Duterte has made the streets more safer, even though he cannot eradicate drug problems in 100% but he has decreased the number of users and peddlers in a large scale.
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I'm American. Our coffers allocated for fighting this problem are tremendous, bigger than the GDPs of some small nations, yet our opiod epidemic has only grown on the face of our increasing efforts to stems the tide of drugs, and educate users on the dangers of the drug, preventing addiction in the first place. Our enemy is the doctor, that prescribed these drugs becuase they got a bonus to do so, not understanding that their patients would be addicted to said substances after treatment. You can't kill this problem. It has to actually be fixed, and it's honestly a problem that is borne of the attitude of the populace, not the availability of drugs. Bored/sad people use hard drugs. Drugs cost money. Money isn't so free flowing nowadays. You need to be addicted to a substance to waste money supporting a habit. The Chinese triads are feeling your addictions; our government is subsidizing ours, through subsidy of the pharmaceutical industry.
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May 31, 2017, 05:17:27 PM
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When you write it you know at least one case when the doctor made his patient addict. Addicts usually use drugs which are produced in clandestine laboratories. Pharmacists have invented for yourself replacement therapy, but this is irrelevant to medicine.
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When you write it you know at least one case when the doctor made his patient addict. Addicts usually use drugs which are produced in clandestine laboratories. Pharmacists have invented for yourself replacement therapy, but this is irrelevant to medicine.

Are you being sarcastic? I'm deadly serious.

https://qz.com/866771/drug-wholesalers-shipped-9-million-opioid-painkillers-over-two-years-to-a-single-west-virginia-pharmacy/

As the number of deaths attributed to overdoses on legal opioid painkillers have quadrupled since 1999 in the US, pharmaceutical distributors have been quietly stocking pharmacy shelves with these pills in areas where addiction is the highest.
Reporters at the Charleston Gazette-Mail in West Virginia analyzed shipment data from the US Food and Drug Administration and found three major drug manufacturing companies—McKesson, Cardinal Health, and AmerisourceBergen—made $17 billion by sending 423 million opioid painkillers to West Virginia between 2007 and 2012. Six of the 55 counties in West Virginia have the highest death tolls resulting from opioid addiction in the country. Over six years, almost 2,000 patients died from overdoses on hydrocodone and oxycontin pills in those counties.

I'm sure they didn't notice they were sending enough pills that every citizen in the county could have had a prescription. And I'm sure the doctors that prescribed those pills were making legitimate prescriptions; it must really hurt to live in WV.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/24/health/cherokee-nation-opioid-lawsuit/

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/28/health/senate-opioid-manufacturer-investigation/

Here it is from the Fox's mouth, if you like that sort of thing (I don't really fuck with that right there Wink )

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/01/15/documentary-on-convicted-doc-highlights-providers-role-in-opioid-epidemic.html


https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/30/opinion/doctors-will-play-a-critical-role-in-the-opioid-epidemic.html


Where do you think the drugs came from? Do you think someone just stumbled onto meth one day after mixing up cough medicine and household cleaning supplies? Drugs may be manufactured clandestinely, but they originated from the pharmaceutical industry. I've said this before on the thread.

Opiods:
It was from opium that morphine, a derivative, was developed as a pain killer in approximately 1810. It was considered a wonder drug because it eliminated severe pain associated with medical operations or traumatic injuries. It left the user in a completely numb euphoric dream-state. Because of the intense euphoric side effects, the drug in 1811 was named after the Greek god of dreams, Morpheus, by Dr. F.W.A. Serturner, a German pharmacist. By the mid 1850’s, morphine was available in the United States and became more and more popular with the medical profession. The benefits of using the drug to treat severe pain was considered nothing short of remarkable to doctors of the time. Unfortunately, the addictive properties of the drug, on the flip side, went virtually unnoticed until after the Civil War.

Cocaine:

Cocaine was first isolated (extracted from coca leaves) in 1859 by German chemist Albert Niemann. It was not until the 1880s that it started to be popularized in the medical community.

MDMA:

MDMA was first made in 1912.[14] It was used to improve psychotherapy beginning in the 1970s and became popular as a street drug in the 1980s.[14][15][17]

MDMA was first synthesized in 1912 by Merck chemist Anton Köllisch. At the time, Merck was interested in developing substances that stopped abnormal bleeding. Merck wanted to avoid an existing patent held by Bayer for one such compound: hydrastinine.

Meth:

Methamphetamine was synthesized by a middle-aged, respectable Japanese chemist named Nagai Nagayoshi in 1893.

A member of the Meiji Japanese elite, Nagayoshi devoted much of his energy to the chemical analysis of traditional Japanese and Chinese medicines using the tools of Western science. In 1885, Nagai isolated the stimulant ephedrine from Ephedra sinica, a plant long used in Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine.

Drug epidemics always start somewhere. And honestly, if you look hard enough. You will find they almost always orignate at the corporate/state actor level. Drugs don't move across borders as easy as you think, in significant amounts.
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May 31, 2017, 08:06:06 PM
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I don't mind about exactly when the promise will be delivered fully. It is being acted upon already and a lot of development was happening. I believe our President, I prayed 4 years ago that hopefully he will lead our nation and here he is. He loves the Filipino people, he loves our county, that the major reason his doing everything he could for best interest of the people.
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June 01, 2017, 06:00:42 AM
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I don't mind about exactly when the promise will be delivered fully. It is being acted upon already and a lot of development was happening. I believe our President, I prayed 4 years ago that hopefully he will lead our nation and here he is. He loves the Filipino people, he loves our county, that the major reason his doing everything he could for best interest of the people.

Such politicians are very rare, and therefore it is not surprising to see a lot of people supporting him in the Philippines. Being nice to anyone is considered as a good trait. But when tough situations arise, you can't behave like that. Those who only understand the language of the gun must be dealt using that language.

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June 28, 2017, 11:10:40 AM
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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Elliminate drugs is so very hard to do why? Because he is only human. Some country like china is export drug from the Philippine but i didn't know how drugs can easy go to Philippines but there are such factory in Philippines that is not easily to find that's why Philippines need more security.



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June 28, 2017, 01:15:50 PM
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Welp, he even have a bigger problem now. It's already been a month since he declared martial law and martial law without permission from Congress can last only up to 60 days. Once that run out without him fixing this, that's definitely going to cause a political crisis here. His allies are becoming quite arrogant with the way they treat minority members and when things go bad, they could expect a stronger push.

Failure to solve this would also break the "macho" image his trying to portray. That his disappearance from public is become longer and more frequent isn't helping quell rumors about his health condition.
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June 28, 2017, 04:01:41 PM
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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

Don't be ridiculous my friend, counting down down the days will never help.

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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.
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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.

So far the signs are good. Most of the drug kingpins have either fled the country or have been apprehended. The number of drug addicts has declined, and so has the crime rate. The challenge is now to maintain these levels.

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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.

So far the signs are good. Most of the drug kingpins have either fled the country or have been apprehended. The number of drug addicts has declined, and so has the crime rate. The challenge is now to maintain these levels.

But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.
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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.

So far the signs are good. Most of the drug kingpins have either fled the country or have been apprehended. The number of drug addicts has declined, and so has the crime rate. The challenge is now to maintain these levels.

But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.


I do not think you are living in the Philippines that is why it is easy for you to say this things.  We feel safer now more than ever.  People around the world would not mind when innocent people dies in the hands of these drug addicts.  But would care and more concerned when drug addicts were killed and concerned about the abandoned families.  We are okay and we will support our President.  Mind yourself.
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I think it is impossible to get rid completely of crimes in any country or world as long as humanity exist there will be always be fights, endless wars and violence but what we can do is to stop it from spreading like a disease that is destroying a country like stopping bad guys from doing whatever they want as long we have good people that runs our justice system a prosperous and peaceful country might not be to impossible to achieve as long as the justice is working properly. It might be possible to have a drug free country.

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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.

i hope duterte can solve illegal drugs activity in its given period. As we can see in the news many drug lords and drug syndicate has been captured and crime rate decreses.

So far the signs are good. Most of the drug kingpins have either fled the country or have been apprehended. The number of drug addicts has declined, and so has the crime rate. The challenge is now to maintain these levels.

But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.


I do not think you are living in the Philippines that is why it is easy for you to say this things.  We feel safer now more than ever.  People around the world would not mind when innocent people dies in the hands of these drug addicts.  But would care and more concerned when drug addicts were killed and concerned about the abandoned families.  We are okay and we will support our President.  Mind yourself.

I'm not trying to be rude, but do you think you are the only country with a drug epidemic?

And have you ever used an illegal substance? I have, many types, and a lot of them.

Support your President. It doesn't make the shit right, simply Democratic.

And your culture will learn the implications in the next few decades of 'the war on drugs'. I hope it works as well for you as it worked out for us. Your children will bemoan the civil liberties you gave up to feel 'safe' Wink

Mind yourself. Smiley you will never justify the killing of a sick person for expediency, to me. fix the underlying problems that engender drug use in your society. Educate. This fosters change in a generation, an ideology that will grow and persist. Or, you can shoot people in the streets like fucking dogs, not even incarcerating them. Because a one time mistake (slipping into addiction) is a swell reason to leave this earth badly, right?

And if your kid (I doubt you have any, you seem to lack compassion) falls in with the wrong crowd or gets tricked into the enslavement that an addictive substance is, well, let's hope those hard men that would judge his fate, don't judge him too harshly Sad
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But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.

At least we can hope that these deaths will not go in vain. A few thousand deaths now will hopefully prevent an even greater number of deaths in the future. I won't call it a genocide, since they are not targeting any particular ethnic group or religious community.

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June 29, 2017, 03:46:17 AM
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It's not an easy task especially if some members of the Republic won't cooperate, but look at what he did within a past few months, thousand of the drug user and pushers are lessened it takes some time to get rid of remaining abusers but it will be done. I believe at our President. It was a rough time especially there was a conflict happening in marawi.
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But at what cost? Sure, the dealers may have left, but the sourcing (China), is still right there, producing precursors by the tanker full. We killed a lot of people, most of which were addicts and not dealers. We militarized the police against the populace, degraded civil liberty, orphaned children. And although the level of users might be down, one thing occurs to me.

What happens during the next drug epidemic? He won't be in office forever. Will all those people have died in vain? Because this won't be repeated in a modern country, this is literally genocide, even if it's unintentional.

At least we can hope that these deaths will not go in vain. A few thousand deaths now will hopefully prevent an even greater number of deaths in the future. I won't call it a genocide, since they are not targeting any particular ethnic group or religious community.

That why I gave it the unintentional qualifier; it may not target a particular ethnicity of culture, but if it effects one group disproportionately, then genocide it is. I equate it with the inadvertent aparthied going on in Israel/Palestine. Not the aim, but the effects are chilling.
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I also think this is impossible to do, specially the focus of everyone is about Marawi's chaotic disaster. But the reduction rate of crime and drugs is very promising that soon it is not possible to eliminate but not in a very short period of time.

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I think the duration provided is not literal. No single country has successfully eliminated drugs ever. That is the truth. So there is no argument as to the number of days. That was simply a case of exaggeration to bring to the people the message that this administration under Duterte is serious in its war against illegal drugs. The message is rather clear. And the actions of this administration to flush out drugs are all there. They are walking the talk. But can we expect that the Philippines will end up a zero-drug nation? No, of course. But it will be lessened to the minimum.

Kudos to this administration! Kudos to all your efforts!
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Duterte promise to the solve illegal drugs activity in 3-6 months. Can he fullfill his promise? Can he do it in this short period of time. I hope he will be successful at the end of the day. Life must go on. So live our life to the fullest. Its Philippines time so we can work together to change the Philippines for the better country.
I'm happy what president duterte doing on solving illegal drugs in the philippines, but I don't think hr can do it ina a short period of time. He dne great on minimizing it, he done great.

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