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Order placed on 2012-11-04 02:08:41
Order # 12315
Selling price: 65 BTC

BFL has stated that this unit should ship within 2-4 weeks.  I will send it via USPS Express Shipping if in the USA or USPS Priority International if outside of the USA.  The cost includes shipping.  They stated that this should give anyone at least a two month lead on orders placed with them today.

E-mail is best.

Thanks!

 ;D

You're funny.

Just get out of here.

That should sum up the sentiment of what the following people are going to tell you to do.

Haha, seriously?  Why wouldn't I ask that much?  I'm only asking 0.32 BTC more than I paid for it!  That isn't asking much considering that I've been waiting for going on 6 months, is it?

What would an appropriate price be then?  Why should I accept less than I paid for it?  That doesn't make any sense now does it?

I don't have much faith in anything BFL has to say. 65BTC is pretty steep. You should consider cutting the asking price in half for starters. Good luck with your venture.

Actually you paid around $649 plus shipping i believe. It is my understanding that your BTC was converted at the time of purchase to USD since that is what the units are actually priced in. You can probably get double what the current USD value of that unit is, but anymore will be hard to find.

IIRC, in those six months, Bitcoins went up a bit in value.

When you ordered:
2012-11-04 00:00:00   10.6425   10.9   10.51002   10.80011   16750.34   178761.66   10.67
65 * 10.6425 = $691.76

Now:
2013-04-08 00:00:00   162.30102   194.9   162.59806   186.21339   113681.98   20630323.75   181.47
65 * 162.30 = $10,549.5

At least you're offering free shipping.  ::)

I would be willing to pay you the actual USD price you paid for it, even willing to throw in a extra 100 bucks.

65 bitcoins... If it did 1 Th/s maybe...

Silly noob

Bahahahaha

yeah, they've been saying that for almost a year.

To be fair, the OP isn't lying. BFL, though...

To the OP: do you include a free unicorn that shits gold? Because then I'd be interested.

Oh. I hadn't read this. Whatever other lies BFL have told, they've never claimed some special magical shipping sauce that'll give you a lead over other orders placed at the same time. Which makes me think you may not be entirely trustworthy, here.

I'm afraid I'm going to need TWO unicorns.

No, but I could try to find a Leprechaun if you want one.  Anyhow, I posted this mostly out of frustration than anything else.  I should have just paid USD rather than BTC, but it's been done and BTC is now over $210.  I would say it mostly has to do with the new funds opening up specifically for Bitcoin and also the Cyprus issue.

Anyhow, realistically, I'm communicating with BFL to see if I can upgrade to the Single SC unit and the upgrade should only cost about 3-4 BTC.  So I could then probably stomach the overall cost a bit better...

you do realize that people could have gotten batch 3 avalons (with 63 GH/s) for 10 BTC more, right?

I'll pay you what you paid for it (sub-$700), plus 0.42btc, a little extra for your trouble.
See, wasnt all that hard was it, now everyone is happy and you profit too. No need to thank me.

deliver first before payment we deal!  ;D

Haha, seriously?  If I was to do that we would have to have a notarized contract fully enforceable in the courts.

Wow, bitcoin is near $240, but I'm holding at the price of 65 BTC!  Haha, this is really just getting nuts, but I truly do hope they ship in the next 2-4 weeks and I hope this darn little thing will be able to pay for itself.  Meaning it will have to generate 65 BTC before I consider it even.  Any ideas on how long that will take?  I'm thinking 1-2 years.

You should have done your research before you placed an order!

A. I do not believe you bought one... this statement proofs it.
B. You are a moron and anybody dealing with you, should make 1000% sure they have the ASIC in their hands before paying you anything. (whether it is in USD or BTC)

I was intending to get you full USD + a hundred or maybe even two extra, since you wanted to get off it so bad... and there is still a 50/50 chance BFL will just not deliver... Now... I want to see your ASIC before even offering anything...

When you ordered:
2012-11-04 00:00:00   10.6425   10.9   10.51002   10.80011   16750.34   178761.66   10.67
65 * 10.6425 = $691.76

This morning BTC was $  236 therefore I will buy your asic for 3 BTC = $708 inc delivery. reg.

3 BTC for one of these miners?  You are out of your mind.  Even if you converted it to USD (not sure why you would anyhow), it would take at least 13 BTC to even get the same price as what I paid.  And BFL has doubled their prices meaning it would take around 26 BTC to get a similar product delivered in about 3-4 months.  65 BTC is reasonable considering everything.

Look, you're not getting your order in 2-4 weeks. You're not getting it in 3-4 months. BFL hasn't shipped a single unit. There are 6 months of orders ahead of yours. Of course you realize this, which is why you're trying to get rid of your pre-order.

I won't buy anything from BFL until its confirmed pepz got their units

lol... I paid 7 BTC for mine on April 2nd  ;)

OP. If BTC crashed to $1 a coin tomorrow, you would reject someone paying 65 BTC for it.

Stop trying to work it in your favor the other way. The only thing that matters is the fiat equivalent for whatever price you decide you want to sell at, and what you bought at.

If you're in the early batch, post a pict of your order receipt with the order number on it.

Here's how I know the OP is full of it...


Couple of things.  First, why did you include the time in hours, minutes, and seconds of when the order was placed.  That information is not on the pdf receipt I got with my order.  Only the order number and the date.

Next.. you don't know that order number 12315 will ship with the first batch in 2-4 weeks.  You could have 1000's of orders ahead of yours.  Also, look at the 1/3 shipment part of the faq:

http://butterflylabs.com/faq/

Sold for 50 BTC.  Thanks guys!

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Sure you did. 

Final offer: if you pay me 3 BTC I will take it off your hands in a year when they finally ship.

Great job. A sucker is born every minute.  :D

Nope!

5000+ $
lmao

I am in the same camp. That is, whilst they are not shipping, I am not ordering. This is what everybody should be doing.

So what's the TX ID? Surely you won't mind posting a signed message with the receiving address to prove to us we're all wrong in doubting you, right?

I dont think it will ever pay for itself for I am ASIC hostile.

If I bought this BFL server, I'll mine PPC.

Why is this so controversial?  The ASICminer 10GH devices sold at auction for 74+ BTC each.  This has 3X the performance, and sold for less, and that isn't believable?

Given the uncertainty surrounding BFL, the actual date you'd acquire it, the difficulty at the time, the risk of scams and the going rate... no, it's not believable.

ASICminer has a physical product that exists and works. BFL doesn't have anything yet.