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Title: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: OmegaStarScream on December 10, 2016, 01:04:31 PM
Following an election season plagued with doubts cast on the democratic process, President Barack Obama has ordered a full review of any hacking-related activity that took place during the 2016 Presidential election, according to a report from Politico.

Keep reading : http://www.ibtimes.com/2016-election-results-hacked-president-obama-orders-full-review-hacking-2457994


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: varyspro on December 10, 2016, 01:08:11 PM
Following an election season plagued with doubts cast on the democratic process, President Barack Obama has ordered a full review of any hacking-related activity that took place during the 2016 Presidential election, according to a report from Politico.

Keep reading : http://www.ibtimes.com/2016-election-results-hacked-president-obama-orders-full-review-hacking-2457994
What I can't understand was hacking or not? If so, why cancel a recount in Michigan? No one tells the truth. It's bad! It is still possible through the electoral College to change the result. Then it will be too late.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: xhomerx10 on December 10, 2016, 01:10:12 PM
I heard that yesterday and the reporter also said that they weren't necessarily going to release the results because it could compromise security methods.  Sounds more like a witch hunt. If they get what they're hoping to find, they'll release it and if they don't find what they're looking for, the spectre of Russian hacking winning the election for Donald Trump gets to hang over him for his entire presidency.  I laughed when I heard it.  I hope the American people aren't fooled by the ruse.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: varyspro on December 10, 2016, 01:16:39 PM
I heard that yesterday and the reporter also said that they weren't necessarily going to release the results because it could compromise security methods.  Sounds more like a witch hunt. If they get what they're hoping to find, they'll release it and if they don't find what they're looking for, the spectre of Russian hacking winning the election for Donald Trump gets to hang over him for his entire presidency.  I laughed when I heard it.  I hope the American people aren't fooled by the ruse.

Trump is a great evil for America. I'm sorry that America was not so educated. This is probably the disease of our time. Britain, America, France and soon Italy. Who's next?


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: xhomerx10 on December 10, 2016, 01:20:26 PM
I heard that yesterday and the reporter also said that they weren't necessarily going to release the results because it could compromise security methods.  Sounds more like a witch hunt. If they get what they're hoping to find, they'll release it and if they don't find what they're looking for, the spectre of Russian hacking winning the election for Donald Trump gets to hang over him for his entire presidency.  I laughed when I heard it.  I hope the American people aren't fooled by the ruse.

Trump is a great evil for America. I'm sorry that America was not so educated. This is probably the disease of our time. Britain, America, France and soon Italy. Who's next?

 I guess everyone is sick of austerity measures.  The pendulum has swung.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: DimidoffVany on December 10, 2016, 01:54:47 PM
I heard that yesterday and the reporter also said that they weren't necessarily going to release the results because it could compromise security methods.  Sounds more like a witch hunt. If they get what they're hoping to find, they'll release it and if they don't find what they're looking for, the spectre of Russian hacking winning the election for Donald Trump gets to hang over him for his entire presidency.  I laughed when I heard it.  I hope the American people aren't fooled by the ruse.

Trump is a great evil for America. I'm sorry that America was not so educated. This is probably the disease of our time. Britain, America, France and soon Italy. Who's next?

 I guess everyone is sick of austerity measures.  The pendulum has swung.

I think that the problem is not saving. So many politicians in our time steal from their people. This issue gained global proportions. Need international Bureau for the fight against corruption, which is subordinate to all countries.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Tyrantt on December 10, 2016, 06:06:38 PM
I heard that yesterday and the reporter also said that they weren't necessarily going to release the results because it could compromise security methods.  Sounds more like a witch hunt. If they get what they're hoping to find, they'll release it and if they don't find what they're looking for, the spectre of Russian hacking winning the election for Donald Trump gets to hang over him for his entire presidency.  I laughed when I heard it.  I hope the American people aren't fooled by the ruse.

Trump is a great evil for America. I'm sorry that America was not so educated. This is probably the disease of our time. Britain, America, France and soon Italy. Who's next?

Why do you think He's the great evil for America? You think that maybe Clinton would be less evil? Well if you have so many countries changing drastically like France, Italy, US,UK,... isn't that telling you something? Obama did siht for US, he's maybe the  worst president there ever was... Stop being a retard.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Tyrantt on December 10, 2016, 06:23:51 PM
I heard that yesterday and the reporter also said that they weren't necessarily going to release the results because it could compromise security methods.  Sounds more like a witch hunt. If they get what they're hoping to find, they'll release it and if they don't find what they're looking for, the spectre of Russian hacking winning the election for Donald Trump gets to hang over him for his entire presidency.  I laughed when I heard it.  I hope the American people aren't fooled by the ruse.


Ah yes, the russian. GOD DAMN YOU RUSSIA!!

I can't believe how many racist/fascist/russian hackers/bigot,etc.. cards they've pulled.. What's next? Ancient aliens helping Trump to achieve victory?


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: audaciousbeing on December 10, 2016, 06:50:01 PM
Following an election season plagued with doubts cast on the democratic process, President Barack Obama has ordered a full review of any hacking-related activity that took place during the 2016 Presidential election, according to a report from Politico.

Keep reading : http://www.ibtimes.com/2016-election-results-hacked-president-obama-orders-full-review-hacking-2457994

He is obviously wasting his time when a statement has initially been released to rule out any form of situation like that. Lets even come to think of it what will happen if it is found out that it was rigged, will he cancel the election or what? To find that out will also cast doubt on his presidency to have allow that will the level of infrastructures available to him. Then its a shame to him and the entire apparatus of government.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Chef Ramsay on December 10, 2016, 07:11:56 PM
Following an election season plagued with doubts cast on the democratic process, President Barack Obama has ordered a full review of any hacking-related activity that took place during the 2016 Presidential election, according to a report from Politico.

Keep reading : http://www.ibtimes.com/2016-election-results-hacked-president-obama-orders-full-review-hacking-2457994
What I can't understand was hacking or not? If so, why cancel a recount in Michigan? No one tells the truth. It's bad! It is still possible through the electoral College to change the result. Then it will be too late.
Because per election law, the Green candidate (who's financing the recount) can't be an aggrieved party because her vote total was so low. Also, there's no evidence of fraud nor anything legit that tilts things in Trump's favor. Why didn't the green ask for a recount in NV or NH where the vote spread was also thin? The bottom line is the mainstream media and all the dolts that hold them in positive regard have been wrong about the pulse of this country the entire election season, so surprise. Trump shattered Hillary's blue wall in the midwest.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: chris_nor on December 11, 2016, 05:52:18 AM
That's good and all. Though that's really just the Hillary camp saying that there was hacking involved.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Xester on December 11, 2016, 07:28:14 AM
Well its normal reaction for the losing parties. They will not accept that they lost and will find an excuse by making an issue that there are cheating that happened. But if they are the group to win they will not investigate the other group if it cheated or not. In my country that political strategy is occurring always so it sounded normal, losers always speaks of cheating but winners just enjoy their winnings.

Obamas group together with Hilary should just accept that they lost so they can move on already and not makes things worst.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Douglazzz on December 11, 2016, 11:50:50 AM
We watched this yesterday, the reporter also said that they weren't necessarily going to release the results because it could compromise security methods. If they get what they're hoping to find, they'll release it and if they don't find what they're looking for, the spectre of Russian hacking winning the election for Donald Trump gets to hang over him for his entire presidency.  I laughed when I heard it.  I hope the American people aren't fooled by the ruse. ;D :( >:(


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Fortify on December 11, 2016, 04:26:40 PM
I don't think it cast doubt on the democratic process, just the means that were used to register the votes and the psychological warfare that may have taken place. I'm sure Putin has plenty of dirt on Trump that he can drip feed to the media to apply pressure when required, but if Clinton had gotten it then the situation would remain more hostile to Russia. As long as there is no war, the politics are fine


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Tyrantt on December 11, 2016, 10:56:16 PM
Well its normal reaction for the losing parties. They will not accept that they lost and will find an excuse by making an issue that there are cheating that happened. But if they are the group to win they will not investigate the other group if it cheated or not. In my country that political strategy is occurring always so it sounded normal, losers always speaks of cheating but winners just enjoy their winnings.

Obamas group together with Hilary should just accept that they lost so they can move on already and not makes things worst.

They're like little children... first they've laughed, then mocked, then Barrack Osama said "Stop whining about rigged elections" to Trump and now, he's the one who's crying about "russsians" hacking the elections.... ah... feels good.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Spendulus on December 11, 2016, 11:00:43 PM
...Trump shattered Hillary's blue wall in the midwest.

My prediction is that the Demo "blue wall" never reforms, because we are in the midst of seeing the parties and allegiances reshape.

Although exactly how is not clear.

But a whole lot of a whole lot of different kinds of people can get behind the "Make America Great Again."

And don't forget all the illegals.  They are going to make really good money building that wall.  You think they are going to vote for a party that would take their jobs away?


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: notbatman on December 11, 2016, 11:41:53 PM
Wikileaks emails may be hacked but at least the Google DKIM cryptographic signatures prove they're not "fake news".

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/13/wikileaks-bombshell-john-podesta-owned-75000-shares-putin-connected-energy-company/


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: sotoshihero on December 11, 2016, 11:45:20 PM
So, when Obama orders the review of Election Hacking then Trump's winning is in question? With the mounting rallies and those who can't accept Trump then it possible lead to more demonstrations. Hope and pray that it would not lead to chaos.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Spendulus on December 13, 2016, 05:07:11 AM
Following an election season plagued with doubts cast on the democratic process, President Barack Obama has ordered a full review of any hacking-related activity that took place during the 2016 Presidential election, according to a report from Politico.

Keep reading : http://www.ibtimes.com/2016-election-results-hacked-president-obama-orders-full-review-hacking-2457994

Ah, FAKE NEWS!


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: iamTom123 on December 13, 2016, 10:18:19 AM
It is about time for the country to fully move on and accept the defeat of Hillary and the assumption of Trump as the new USA President. Now, there can be many people who also hate Obama and may continue to put him on the bad light so stories like this can be fake. On my personal observation, although Obama made many gargantuan policies that affect the nation for years to come, he is respecting the process and accepting the result of the recent election.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Sithara007 on December 13, 2016, 03:33:12 PM
Is he going to review the ballot stuffing and other forms of vote fraud committed by the Democrats in ghetto areas such as Detroit and Pittsburgh? I read a few days back that in a Detroit precinct where less than 50 people turned out to vote, more than 300 votes were counted (obviously, 99% of them favoring Hillary Clinton).


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Junko on December 14, 2016, 03:00:54 AM
Whoever was behind the hacking doesn't matter. What really matters is the actual content in the information that was hacked. The hacking opened people's eyes to the corrupt, lying pieces of shit that Hillary and the Democrats truly are.

So a big Thank You to "the Russians" or whoever it was that was responsible for the hacking.

And all this continued denial, desperation and outrage from the Left is like a bonus Christmas present.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: devthedev on December 14, 2016, 03:46:08 AM
Whoever was behind the hacking doesn't matter. What really matters is the actual content in the information that was hacked. The hacking opened people's eyes to the corrupt, lying pieces of shit that Hillary and the Democrats truly are.

So a big Thank You to "the Russians" or whoever it was that was responsible for the hacking.

And all this continued denial, desperation and outrage from the Left is like a bonus Christmas present.

This. They're lucky more wasn't released, there is so much crap there to dig up. Not to mention, the democratic party was the party who created the KKK and rallies behind Planned Parenthood who's founder was the leader of the women's KKK movement and created it to "exterminate black babies" (in her own words). While I do not think Trump is a very good fit for the presidency, he is thousands of times better than Hillary. 


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: xhomerx10 on December 14, 2016, 11:22:18 AM
Whoever was behind the hacking doesn't matter. What really matters is the actual content in the information that was hacked. The hacking opened people's eyes to the corrupt, lying pieces of shit that Hillary and the Democrats truly are.

So a big Thank You to "the Russians" or whoever it was that was responsible for the hacking.

And all this continued denial, desperation and outrage from the Left is like a bonus Christmas present.

This. They're lucky more wasn't released, there is so much crap there to dig up. Not to mention, the democratic party was the party who created the KKK and rallies behind Planned Parenthood who's founder was the leader of the women's KKK movement and created it to "exterminate black babies" (in her own words). While I do not think Trump is a very good fit for the presidency, he is thousands of times better than Hillary. 

 While Margaret Sanger had eugenicist leanings, I don't believe she said that.  Can you cite a reference?


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: devthedev on December 14, 2016, 05:17:09 PM
Whoever was behind the hacking doesn't matter. What really matters is the actual content in the information that was hacked. The hacking opened people's eyes to the corrupt, lying pieces of shit that Hillary and the Democrats truly are.

So a big Thank You to "the Russians" or whoever it was that was responsible for the hacking.

And all this continued denial, desperation and outrage from the Left is like a bonus Christmas present.

This. They're lucky more wasn't released, there is so much crap there to dig up. Not to mention, the democratic party was the party who created the KKK and rallies behind Planned Parenthood who's founder was the leader of the women's KKK movement and created it to "exterminate black babies" (in her own words). While I do not think Trump is a very good fit for the presidency, he is thousands of times better than Hillary. 

 While Margaret Sanger had eugenicist leanings, I don't believe she said that.  Can you cite a reference?

Sorry, it wasn't "exterminate black babies" exactly, but "exterminate the negro population" through Planned Parenthood, implying the same thing.

In the Pivot of Civilization from 1922 she wrote, "[...]'human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born. [...] The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."

I wrote an in-depth piece about Margaret Sanger and PP on my publication here, http://faithforamerica.org/does-planned-parenthood-care-about-women/


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 14, 2016, 07:14:35 PM
Did Barack Obama forgot that he is no longer the president of the United States? He need to come back to his senses. His candidate (Hitlery Clinton) lost the elections, despite spending billions of USD in funds. She was demolished by an inexperienced businessman, who was demonized by the mainstream media channels.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Klima on December 14, 2016, 08:44:32 PM
Did Barack Obama forgot that he is no longer the president of the United States? He need to come back to his senses. His candidate (Hitlery Clinton) lost the elections, despite spending billions of USD in funds. She was demolished by an inexperienced businessman, who was demonized by the mainstream media channels.
First, Obama is still the President, and the second Trump so much contradictory personality that he will soon become a lame duck. He used to work in the business when the owner decides everything. In the state it is not. It may get opposition from the Senate and Congress.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Racey on December 14, 2016, 10:21:02 PM
Ten separate cyber attacks came from US Department of homeland security (confirmed)

Now, who done the hacking again?
The MSM would say something else, which would not be true.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/georgia/georgia-secretary-of-state-says-cyberattacks-linked-back-to-dhs/475707667


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: lafona on December 15, 2016, 01:19:12 AM
Did any of you guys hear about the followmyvote voting on blockchain idea? It seemed like it could helped with both voting and polling, things this election could have used better options for. It seems rediculous that there is no option to vote via the internet.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: xhomerx10 on December 15, 2016, 06:00:31 AM
Whoever was behind the hacking doesn't matter. What really matters is the actual content in the information that was hacked. The hacking opened people's eyes to the corrupt, lying pieces of shit that Hillary and the Democrats truly are.

So a big Thank You to "the Russians" or whoever it was that was responsible for the hacking.

And all this continued denial, desperation and outrage from the Left is like a bonus Christmas present.

This. They're lucky more wasn't released, there is so much crap there to dig up. Not to mention, the democratic party was the party who created the KKK and rallies behind Planned Parenthood who's founder was the leader of the women's KKK movement and created it to "exterminate black babies" (in her own words). While I do not think Trump is a very good fit for the presidency, he is thousands of times better than Hillary. 

 While Margaret Sanger had eugenicist leanings, I don't believe she said that.  Can you cite a reference?

Sorry, it wasn't "exterminate black babies" exactly, but "exterminate the negro population" through Planned Parenthood, implying the same thing.

In the Pivot of Civilization from 1922 she wrote, "[...]'human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born. [...] The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population."

I wrote an in-depth piece about Margaret Sanger and PP on my publication here, http://faithforamerica.org/does-planned-parenthood-care-about-women/

 I realize I'm getting off-topic but I just wanted to say that I took the time to read The Pivot of Civilization (http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1689/1689-h/1689-h.htm) again after work tonight.  None of what you claim is contained in this book is written therein; neither was Margaret Sanger and leader of a women's KKK movement.  You're spreading misinformation.  Are you misinformed or do you have an agenda?


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: wowanstrong on December 15, 2016, 09:16:19 AM
Did any of you guys hear about the followmyvote voting on blockchain idea? It seemed like it could helped with both voting and polling, things this election could have used better options for. It seems rediculous that there is no option to vote via the internet.
Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Sithara007 on December 15, 2016, 12:59:57 PM
Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats have always supported internet voting. Democrats normally score more than 90% of the votes in areas where Voter IDs are not required to cast the vote.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: notbatman on December 16, 2016, 12:48:36 PM
O'Bongo has called a press conference this afternoon to discuss how Putin hacked the election and planted pictures of babyfuckers to start pizzagate.

Armageddon in 3, 2, ...


edit:

"Obama vows action against Russia over election hacks" -- BBC "Legacy" News
source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38337109


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: xhomerx10 on December 16, 2016, 12:57:24 PM
O'Bongo has called a press conference this afternoon to discuss how Putin hacked the election and planted pictures of babyfuckers to start pizzagate.

Armageddon in 3, 2, ...

 Damn!  I'm not even ready for Christmas yet; so many things to do and now I have to add "check the expiry date on my potassium iodide pills" to the list.  On the bright side, maybe I wont have to go to work tonight.  ::)





Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: BADecker on December 16, 2016, 08:39:17 PM
Is Obama even qualified to order a full review?!


Sheriff Arpaio: 5-Year Investigation Finds '9 Points Of Forgery' In Obama's Birth Certificate. (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/209053-2016-12-16-sheriff-arpaio-5-year-investigation-finds-9-points-of-forgery.htm)



https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-1216100415-arpaio-on-obamas-cirth-cert.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/209053-2016-12-16-sheriff-arpaio-5-year-investigation-finds-9-points-of-forgery.htm)


This [video] is a must watch.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his team claim to have found one of the source documents from which Obama's birth certificate was allegedly forged.

From Western Journalism:

The office of Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio presented what it characterized as proof that the birth certificate the White House offered as evidence of President Obama's American birth is not real.

Arpaio began the press conference Thursday in Phoenix by assuring reporters the office had "followed the evidence" and would have been just as satisfied if it had determined the certificate was authentic.

In the hour-long presentation, Arpaio's lead investigator, Mike Zullo, made the case that the certificate was created from a "source" document: the birth certificate of Hawaiian Johanna Ah Nee, who was born within weeks of Obama in August 1961.

The Ah Nee document was originally obtained from investigative journalist Jerome Corsi, the author of several books and a contributor to the website World Net Daily.

According to Zullo, two separate forensic expert sources from two continents — Reed Hayes from Hawaii and the For Lab team in Italy — reviewed the Obama certificate and concluded it was not authentic.

Zullo told reporters Hayes has 45 years in the field and originally did not want to take the case because he is an Obama supporter and voted for him twice.

After reviewing the Obama certificate, the court expert stated, "I can't clear this. There is something wrong with it."

Zullo showed a video to reporters that purported to demonstrate how the date stamp in two different boxes on Obama's certificate had the exact angle and placement, matching one of the date stamps on the Ah Nee original.

The investigator stated this was nearly a statistical impossibility.

He also said two boxes on the Obama certificate were marked in the exact same manner as the Ah Nee document running into words above, leading his team to believe they had been lifted and inserted into a created certificate.


WOW: Sheriff Joe Arpaio Releases New Information on President Obama's Birth Certificate
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jk3KRxTfkLM/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=336&h=188&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=V3viOXszpqAsE85gmU5Rogu7E_w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM)


Read more and click the links at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/12/16/sheriff-arpaio-5-year-investigation-finds-9-points-of-forgery-in-obamas-birth-certificate/.


Regarding Trump:
I’d love to see Trump reopen this investigation just to trigger liberals into losing their minds


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Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: BADecker on December 17, 2016, 01:31:47 AM
Shocker: Even Obama Lawyers Admit Birth Certificate Forged: (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/209076-2016-12-16-shocker-even-obama-lawyers-admit-birth-certificate-forged.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/522-1216134215-a.png (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/209076-2016-12-16-shocker-even-obama-lawyers-admit-birth-certificate-forged.htm)


The conversation about Barack Obama's birth certificate has been off the table for a while now – but the true heart of the matter has never been resolved.

Has anything in his administration been valid or legal? Oddly enough, it seems that a clever legal strategy may make the question of a forged document somehow irrelevant to Obama's eligibility to hold office.

Coincidentally or not, it was none other than President-elect Donald Trump who, arguably, called off the hounds, got the Obama Admin to produce a document, and then called the whole thing square in the lead up to 2012.

More recently, Trump dismissed his previous ties to the "birther movement" during the last few weeks of his presidential campaign, brushing off the topic very hurriedly by stating: "President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period."

However, the question isn't settled for investigators who have been conducting a five-year probe of the birth certificate they claim is a forgery – complete with photoshop layers!


Read more at http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/shocker-even-obama-lawyers-admit-birth-certificate-forged-but-eligibilitys-a-separate-matter_12162016.


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Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: devthedev on December 17, 2016, 04:50:32 AM
Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats have always supported internet voting. Democrats normally score more than 90% of the votes in areas where Voter IDs are not required to cast the vote.

Perhaps. The recount in Michigan turned up more Democrat votes than actual people in some precincts. So Democrats donated to expose Democrat voter fraud.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Sithara007 on December 17, 2016, 03:49:36 PM
Perhaps. The recount in Michigan turned up more Democrat votes than actual people in some precincts. So Democrats donated to expose Democrat voter fraud.

Yeah.... if you remember, it was the Democrat appointed US District Judge Mark Goldsmith, who initially ordered a recount in Michigan. It was the same judge, who hastily halted it, when massive voter fraud was exposed in Detroit.

Quote
The Detroit News found voting scanning machines at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts — 37 percent — tabulated more ballots than the number of actual voters counted in the poll books.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Spendulus on December 19, 2016, 12:36:41 PM
Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats have always supported internet voting. Democrats normally score more than 90% of the votes in areas where Voter IDs are not required to cast the vote.
Exactly.

Paper ballots are the answer.  Unless you go full crypto.  But they won't do the latter.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Sithara007 on December 19, 2016, 02:13:09 PM
Voting via the Internet does not give an objective picture. To rig the elections through the Internet much easier. You follow the example of Russia. There's always the election is a fraud. The same thing will happen in America. The Russians have already shown what they can do.

Perhaps that is the reason why the Democrats have always supported internet voting. Democrats normally score more than 90% of the votes in areas where Voter IDs are not required to cast the vote.
Exactly.

Paper ballots are the answer.  Unless you go full crypto.  But they won't do the latter.

I prefer paper ballots. Crypto is a good idea. But I don't think that it can be implemented without any trouble in cities such as Detroit and San Diego, where the majority of the population are computer-illiterates.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: audaciousbeing on December 19, 2016, 03:46:08 PM
Paper ballots are the answer.  Unless you go full crypto.  But they won't do the latter.

Ballot paper will be 100 steps backward after the initial steps forward. I would still go the way of cryto but the issue is will people trust the software because that is what will make the procedure worthwhile. Paper ballot over here has been characterized with several drawbacks among which include snatching, mass thumb printing, maxi-voting etc.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Spendulus on December 19, 2016, 04:02:38 PM
Paper ballots are the answer.  Unless you go full crypto.  But they won't do the latter.

Ballot paper will be 100 steps backward after the initial steps forward. I would still go the way of cryto but the issue is will people trust the software because that is what will make the procedure worthwhile. Paper ballot over here has been characterized with several drawbacks among which include snatching, mass thumb printing, maxi-voting etc.

Backwards is okay.

The problem with crypto is that the powers that be will not implement a system that's not amendable to their desires for corruption.  Paper ballots are less so.


Title: Re: Obama Orders ‘Full Review’ Of Election Hacking
Post by: Sithara007 on December 19, 2016, 05:20:40 PM
Ballot paper will be 100 steps backward after the initial steps forward. I would still go the way of cryto but the issue is will people trust the software because that is what will make the procedure worthwhile. Paper ballot over here has been characterized with several drawbacks among which include snatching, mass thumb printing, maxi-voting etc.

Issues with ballot paper can be avoided if measures such as early voting and absentee voting are banned. Absentee voting is the main avenue for voter fraud these days. Remember the Franken vs Coleman race?