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Title: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: MadGamer on December 25, 2016, 08:20:51 AM
Girlbtc.com got banned and I guess the appeal didn't really work (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1723803.0) and now he is coming back using multiple accounts and he is spamming to advertise his new forum which is an exact copy of this one , he is only promising to not ban people etc. first post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728045.0), second post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728047.0) there is definitely more but I lost trace of them.
edit : third post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728076.0;topicseen)


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Johny Depp on December 25, 2016, 09:19:27 AM
Girlbtc.com got banned and I guess the appeal didn't really work (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1723803.0) and now he is coming back using multiple accounts and he is spamming to advertise his new forum which is an exact copy of this one , he is only promising to not ban people etc. first post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728045.0), second post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728047.0) there is definitely more but I lost trace of them.
edit : third post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728076.0;topicseen)

Here are more...

i. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728079.0

ii. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728064.0

iii. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1723564.msg17292819#msg17292819

I think, it is time to serve an IP ban.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Fortify on December 25, 2016, 09:21:29 AM
Girlbtc.com got banned and I guess the appeal didn't really work (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1723803.0) and now he is coming back using multiple accounts and he is spamming to advertise his new forum which is an exact copy of this one , he is only promising to not ban people etc. first post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728045.0), second post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728047.0) there is definitely more but I lost trace of them.
edit : third post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728076.0;topicseen)

Here are more...

i. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728079.0

ii. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728064.0

iii. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1723564.msg17292819#msg17292819

I think, it is time to serve an IP ban.

It's a pain that the spam needs to be kept under control, but the forum that they're advertising is never going to take off so it will die eventually. An IP ban is not effective with people like this, either because their ISP gives them fresh IP addresses or they are using proxies to evade bans.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Johny Depp on December 25, 2016, 09:25:53 AM
Girlbtc.com got banned and I guess the appeal didn't really work (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1723803.0) and now he is coming back using multiple accounts and he is spamming to advertise his new forum which is an exact copy of this one , he is only promising to not ban people etc. first post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728045.0), second post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728047.0) there is definitely more but I lost trace of them.
edit : third post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728076.0;topicseen)

Here are more...

i. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728079.0

ii. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728064.0

iii. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1723564.msg17292819#msg17292819

I think, it is time to serve an IP ban.

It's a pain that the spam needs to be kept under control, but the forum that they're advertising is never going to take off so it will die eventually. An IP ban is not effective with people like this, either because their ISP gives them fresh IP addresses or they are using proxies to evade bans.

By IP ban, I mean a range that they have used to register. This would effectively ban their ISP. Alternatively, their ISP and Proxies used can be blacklisted, i.e. added some amount of evil, so that they have to pay every time they register from those IP range.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Shiroslullaby on December 25, 2016, 12:05:32 PM
Banning an IP range would ban any user trying to register or post from that country/ ISP, etc.
Not sure if that is really fair to other users from that region/ provider.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Lauda on December 25, 2016, 02:14:36 PM
I've nuked all of them. If you find more, you can PM me for faster handling.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: MadGamer on December 26, 2016, 07:00:03 AM
I've nuked all of them. If you find more, you can PM me for faster handling.

I doubt I will find more , It looks like he transformed his website into a gambling website as It was impossible for him to compete with bitcointalk.
edit : or not... another post #1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729058.0;topicseen) , another post #2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728394.msg17302121#msg17302121) , another post #3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729063.0;topicseen)


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Xanidas on December 26, 2016, 08:29:18 AM
i see another spam from girlbtc here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729058.0

pointing here: http://girlbtc.com/bitcoinforum/index.php

a copy of the forum LMAO


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: veleten on December 26, 2016, 11:21:03 AM
the best way to fight spammers and ban evaders like him is to report his posts/threads with a proper description
usually mods react to that and accounts are getting banned in a day or two
also no,banning IP ranges is useless,he can run a proxy/vpn and appear from any country he likes


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: 400actforsale on December 26, 2016, 11:28:12 AM
Then why not go to their forum and troll them :P

I have signed up there as 'F**K' and "Want BTC', and begging there for BTC (which is supposed to be not allowed) and even f***ed them. Their rules aren't much better, they require 15 minutes (instead of 6) between posts!



(Serious part) Maybe we'll have to add a new rule? Like making a deposit to the forum when making an account, and return them after they have made 1 post and without getting banned (meaning that the post was OK). This will stop the spammers while keeping the real users here.

i see another spam from girlbtc here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729058.0

pointing here: (link removed)

a copy of the forum LMAO
Please remove your link...


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Lauda on December 26, 2016, 01:45:51 PM
I doubt I will find more , It looks like he transformed his website into a gambling website as It was impossible for him to compete with bitcointalk.
edit : or not... another post #1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729058.0;topicseen) , another post #2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1728394.msg17302121#msg17302121) , another post #3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729063.0;topicseen)
I did notice a few different spam patterns now: Content from Girlbtc forum without links and posting randomly in some Chinese threads. It doesn't look like he/she will stop anytime soon.

Girlbtc is a gamble site since it started. and forum is just his sub-function for free talk.
The website and the owner should be put on a public list of shame.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Chevas Regal on December 26, 2016, 01:48:25 PM
I think Girlbtc.com owner is teenager, he behaves like noob. i heard that he has got a new forum much similar like bitcointalk.org


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Buthenis on December 26, 2016, 01:58:51 PM
I think Girlbtc.com owner is teenager, he behaves like noob. i heard that he has got a new forum much similar like bitcointalk.org

I think he has made a copy of Bitcointalk forum after that he maybe scam members later.
That is so bad, Guys


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Wei H on December 26, 2016, 03:00:12 PM
i see another spam from girlbtc here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729058.0

pointing here: http://girlbtc.com/bitcoinforum/index.php

a copy of the forum LMAO

I guess you need to find his Twitter and other social accounts, if he make any noise there, that would be considered "ban evasion" too?
Or you should find him and block him mouth from talking?


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Xanidas on December 26, 2016, 03:20:33 PM
i see another spam from girlbtc here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729058.0

pointing here: http://girlbtc.com/bitcoinforum/index.php

a copy of the forum LMAO

I guess you need to find his Twitter and other social accounts, if he make any noise there, that would be considered "ban evasion" too?
Or you should find him and block him mouth from talking?

So whats your point here? Do you mean i spend my time looking for his alts spamming the forum? Then you are wrong, i just took a look in a section and found his post about his own forum. So what is your problem here? Is girlbtc your friend or what? Well you should probably tell hin to stop spamming his links and shit here


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Lauda on December 26, 2016, 03:51:05 PM
Here he goes again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1729221.msg0#new
Handled again. This has just become blatant spam now.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Chevas Regal on December 26, 2016, 03:54:01 PM
I have some Chinese friends in Pataya, who are at low designations but still they maintain a high quality life , i am just pissed off seeing the way this thin girlbtc spams the forum and that too blatantly. He doesn't even care for his site reputation.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: actmyname on December 26, 2016, 05:08:41 PM
In the following quotes, I cannot tell if ETFbitcoin is being sarcastic or not. For those of us (probably all) that have seen the depth of knowledge of individuals on the forum, this should seem justified.

So, they keep their promise which says "We promise ,We are open ,we never delete posts ,never ban people ,make bitcoin forum the way it should be ( Open, Free, Public) Smiley"
I hope people who run bot in this forum will move to girlbtc forum because they have good promise.

You can't possibly serious about people moving to girlbtc's forum, right? It would just become an absolute shitshow of spam and scam attempts if literally no posts were deleted and no people were banned. Imagine a message board with no moderation - things would go haywire. This "free speech" is way too free and given the pseudo-anonymity of the internet, one can simply post anything without consequences.



(Serious part) Maybe we'll have to add a new rule? Like making a deposit to the forum when making an account, and return them after they have made 1 post and without getting banned (meaning that the post was OK). This will stop the spammers while keeping the real users here.
I think that's bad idea, especially for newbie or people who don't have much bitcoin. Maybe we should add notice not to trust newbie/new user easily.

1. It's a given.
2. It's there already in the form of private messages. Private messages from Newbies will result in a red notice: "!!! WARNING: This user is a newbie. If you are expecting a message from a more veteran member, then this is an imposter !!!"

Additionally, I don't really mind the fact that people are scammed by newbies and Ponzi schemes. Caveat emptor, and if they're too ignorant or stupid to be vigilant, then they'll be scammed and learn from the lesson. The amount they are scammed serves to pay for it.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: iram3130 on December 26, 2016, 05:32:37 PM
Is everyone sure that it is the owner only whose behind all this spamming.? Coz sometimes it's like let's kill this site's reputation or kill it before it gets opened.  :-\


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: minifrij on December 26, 2016, 06:03:29 PM
Is everyone sure that it is the owner only whose behind all this spamming.? Coz sometimes it's like let's kill this site's reputation or kill it before it gets opened.  :-\
Girlbtc (a chinese user) got banned a little while ago and announced their new forum. Ever since accounts with similar english skills using chinese characters have been complaining about this forum and promoting girlbtc's.

It would be a big surprise to me at least if it wasn't them.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: FFrankie on December 27, 2016, 02:54:20 AM
I was under the impression that bitcointalk was banned in china, so users had to use a proxy to use this site anyway, so a IP ban would be really useless?


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: iram3130 on December 27, 2016, 06:37:23 AM
Is everyone sure that it is the owner only whose behind all this spamming.? Coz sometimes it's like let's kill this site's reputation or kill it before it gets opened.  :-\
Girlbtc (a chinese user) got banned a little while ago and announced their new forum. Ever since accounts with similar english skills using chinese characters have been complaining about this forum and promoting girlbtc's.

It would be a big surprise to me at least if it wasn't them.

In that case, it would be better if we find the IP of the owner or the person whose making multi's and ban it from creating new accounts.  :-\


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Edraket31 on December 27, 2016, 07:15:10 AM
I was under the impression that bitcointalk was banned in china, so users had to use a proxy to use this site anyway, so a IP ban would be really useless?

correct, if a user is using VPN he would have different IP everytime he connects to a certain site so its useless. I know girlbtc.com is using VPN to connect here, i joined their skype giveaway thing few weeks ago and he admitted that he always use VPN when visiting the forum so IP ban is not possible for him


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: unamis76 on December 27, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
He's still around, with more accounts and a slightly different grammar, but moderation seems to be on top of him for the most part... Not sure what he wants to achieve beyond giving (even more) work to the moderation.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Lauda on December 27, 2016, 10:27:54 PM
In that case, it would be better if we find the IP of the owner or the person whose making multi's and ban it from creating new accounts.  :-\
That doesn't really help when someone has access to a lot of proxies.

He's still around, with more accounts and a slightly different grammar, but moderation seems to be on top of him for the most part... Not sure what he wants to achieve beyond giving (even more) work to the moderation.
Indeed. I've noticed the latest report just a few minutes ago. They get quickly resolved because there are a lot of patrollers that are able to handle them (and the violation is pretty clear).


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Lutpin on December 27, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
Indeed. I've noticed the latest report just a few minutes ago.
Looks like they don't even bother to add anything to it at this point.
The last post I reported was pretty plain, their url as topic and this "respect and you will be respected" bullshit as content.
It's starting to remind me of the Sports-stream spammers or the product backlink stuff.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Avirunes on December 30, 2016, 05:48:40 AM
Girlbtc loves bitcointalk even more than his own forum. Isn't it??  ;D

Here he comes again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733348.msg0#new


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: MadGamer on January 10, 2017, 06:18:45 PM
Its been almost two weeks since I didn't see any of his posts , should I close this thread or leave it open In case someone decide to report his posts again ? the question is for Lauda or any other moderator.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Lauda on January 10, 2017, 08:54:44 PM
Its been almost two weeks since I didn't see any of his posts , should I close this thread or leave it open In case someone decide to report his posts again ? the question is for Lauda or any other moderator.
There's no harm in leaving it open for now. I don't think that we've seen the last of girlbtc, so the thread still may have a purpose. I prefer using a singular thread rather than people opening multiple for the same issues.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: isen on January 11, 2017, 04:28:20 AM
Its been almost two weeks since I didn't see any of his posts , should I close this thread or leave it open In case someone decide to report his posts again ? the question is for Lauda or any other moderator.
A few days ago I reported his thread on services section where he was trying to advertise his forum pay per post campaign.
I am sure that he is still lurking around and he will start spamming again soon.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Jet Cash on January 11, 2017, 08:49:53 AM
Just a point with regards to ip banning. I use public WiFi most of the time (it's a project of mine). There must be at least 5 different IPs associated with my account here.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on January 11, 2017, 09:48:17 AM
Just a point with regards to ip banning. I use public WiFi most of the time (it's a project of mine). There must be at least 5 different IPs associated with my account here.
Unfortunately,there is nothing much you can do.If the IP is previously banned for evil activities and such,you have to pay a small fine to continue using the forum with the same IP.Happens most of the time when you use free vpn services.In your case,the possibilities are remote.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: minifrij on January 11, 2017, 10:05:24 AM
If the IP is previously banned for evil activities and such,you have to pay a small fine to continue using the forum with the same IP.
AFAIK the 'evil' system is only put into place when registering accounts, not logging into them. Provided you register your account on an IP with no 'evil' then you shouldn't be affected.


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: BitHodler on January 11, 2017, 12:00:52 PM
If the IP is previously banned for evil activities and such,you have to pay a small fine to continue using the forum with the same IP.
AFAIK the 'evil' system is only put into place when registering accounts, not logging into them. Provided you register your account on an IP with no 'evil' then you shouldn't be affected.
Interesting, what is a reason for the system to hand over evil activity "points"? Is it when you make use of an IP that has been used previously to register an account? Or is it due to you signing up through proxies?


Title: Re: Girlbtc.com spamming the forum
Post by: Quickseller on January 11, 2017, 12:36:56 PM
If the IP is previously banned for evil activities and such,you have to pay a small fine to continue using the forum with the same IP.
AFAIK the 'evil' system is only put into place when registering accounts, not logging into them. Provided you register your account on an IP with no 'evil' then you shouldn't be affected.
Interesting, what is a reason for the system to hand over evil activity "points"? Is it when you make use of an IP that has been used previously to register an account? Or is it due to you signing up through proxies?
When a user is banned, all IP addresses associated with that account are assigned additional 'units of evil' (that depreciate over time). The idea is that if many accounts associated with the same IP address have been banned, then the person behind that IP address is a spammer, and it will become expensive for the spammer to register additional accounts.