Title: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 26, 2016, 10:49:04 PM Just passing it along..
Source = Re: [FRAUD] LEOcoin scam making demonstrably fraudulent claims to con general public (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1484410.msg17262583#msg17262583) Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote The National Accountability Bureau (NAB) Rawalpindi has initiated an inquiry against UNAICO Pakistan Pvt Ltd on a report by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) regarding the alleged suspicious transactions (STR) in the accounts of the company. Initial verification of relevant record has revealed that the company, registered with the SECP, was allegedly involved in the illegal business of MLM (multi-level marketing) by enticing the general public for investments. The company was running a ponzy scheme. Earlier, the SECP had issued a public warning through the national dailies requesting the general public to refrain from investing in UNAICO or involving in any transaction with the same. The warning had clearly notified the general public that the company’s business was illegal and not authorised by the SECP. NAB Rawalpindi has started a full-fledged inquiry and in the initial phase has frozen all bank accounts of the company and its director, Atif Kamran. There are three bank accounts in the name of the company and relevant banks have been advised not to entertain any transaction in the said accounts till further orders. The NAB has placed Kamran’s name on the ECL. NAB Rawalpindi is in the process of contacting all members/investors of the company to approach. The NAB Rawalpindi has to verify their claims and record their statements for legal action against M/s UNICO Pakistan Limited RPPs Case. NAB is in the process of reconciliation based on the available material collected/recorded during examination of the accused persons alleged in the case and hoped to finalise its inquiry within a week. During the process, NAB may call the accused persons already heard for further grilling if need be. The bureau has received commitments from various RPPs to return the defrauded amount in the days to come. Atif Kamran with Mr Anderrsoon Now this is not trolling is it? It is a fact and it happened. So let's see if it gets deleted...... ps: you guys were even on yahoo finance: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-alternative-pyramid-scheme-storm-125726660.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-alternative-pyramid-scheme-storm-125726660.html) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: asriloni on December 26, 2016, 11:25:41 PM This is the big news for all and especially for the LEO shil. ::) Their shil will be stopping make a troll on every place. :D Get depressed and stressed, their mentality has disturbed. But how about the result of that news now? I curious.
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptoipad on December 27, 2016, 12:18:37 AM I always knew these guys were shady. They launched their coin in private and mined tens of thousands of blocks for themselves. These guys were just selling their worthless tokens. Another Onecoin but this one has a blockchain.
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: bbc.reporter on December 27, 2016, 12:58:47 AM @Cryptoipad. Everybody does and it is nothing new. The ones who "support" them in the forum are paid shills or they are people who are part of leocoin itself. The funny part is they keep marketing their coin in this forum without realizing that the little 40 year old kids here are all broke because of the constant scamming.
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Pearls Before Swine on December 27, 2016, 01:05:37 AM I always knew these guys were shady. They launched their coin in private and mined tens of thousands of blocks for themselves. These guys were just selling their worthless tokens. Another Onecoin but this one has a blockchain. Of course, but this isn't any different than the pants-load of other coins trading on the exchanges. If you buy any of these, you are getting the quacksters rich and no one else. It should be axiomatic that when these con men develop these coins, they are going to have extremely slick presentations to suck in the retard pool. And that pool needs to be drained. None of this surprises me, though it did catch my attention that the situation made it all the way to yahoo finance.Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: BitPotus on December 27, 2016, 03:03:33 AM This is the big news for all and especially for the LEO shil. ::) Their shil will be stopping make a troll on every place. :D Get depressed and stressed, their mentality has disturbed. But how about the result of that news now? I curious. The Leocoin shill aka Cryptotraider16 and his numerous sock puppets will just say that we are trolls and are jealous. It's really funny cause that little shit keeps denying making sock puppet accounts even though one can fucking see them from a mile away due to his quite unique retarded writing style. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Zadicar on December 27, 2016, 03:49:41 AM This is the big news for all and especially for the LEO shil. ::) Their shil will be stopping make a troll on every place. :D Get depressed and stressed, their mentality has disturbed. But how about the result of that news now? I curious. The Leocoin shill aka Cryptotraider16 and his numerous sock puppets will just say that we are trolls and are jealous. It's really funny cause that little shit keeps denying making sock puppet accounts even though one can fucking see them from a mile away due to his quite unique retarded writing style. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 27, 2016, 04:03:55 AM Hope you all actually read the quote because it's a pretty serious situation.
It may be setting a precedent too.. I was rather surprised to say the least hearing about this. This is no FUD people.. this is a slew of banks accounts seized by authorities and a major investigation. And the keywords i put in the title were taken straight from the authorities mouth word for word. It's about time people in Crypto realize they are not bullet proof and immune to law. I went digging for the scam topic to mention the super shill's last comment he posted here. How he said the official site mentioned it paid the premined money to "Investors" Which would be the people at Seminars buying into the Ponzi by paying expensive seminar fee's and DVD's etc. That admission he posted earlier was a major revelation ! It also says a bunch of stuff on the ANN topic about the premined money. It said 50 million was premined for the foundation but later down the ANN topic it says the foundation "holds" only 10 million with no mention of where the rest of the 40 million went to. We also seen on the other shill topic new users defending it all saying the guys behind the foundation and Dan the guy credited for starting the coin as "not connected" to LEO coin. See the picture above ? An obvious bold face lie. This really is a giant swirling vortex of scam backed by old school multi level marketing scammers with deep pockets. And THIS is who you guys are supporting with half the scammy coins around here. Supporting a shitcoin to make a few bucks profit make these guys a TON of money. And once they get a taste do you all think they are going to leave ? Anyway i wonder what will happen with LEOcoin now.. i am too lazy to look at CoinmarketCAP :D I bet it's tanking as we speak.. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 27, 2016, 10:54:12 AM Funny thread sportnik ! Thanks for extra advertise!
Soon all willsee you are a funny kid! But thx for free advertise! Yeah 8 exchanges trade scam coin omfg you are so so funny and all who are with you. Kids! Real realsoon some real important peoples from crypto world will be LEOcoin support! Then all of you will just cry! 👍🏼🙈😅 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: J1mb0 on December 27, 2016, 11:22:38 AM Funny thread sportnik ! Thanks for extra advertise! Soon all willsee you are a funny kid! But thx for free advertise! Yeah 8 exchanges trade scam coin omfg you are so so funny and all who are with you. Kids! Real realsoon some real important peoples from crypto world will be LEOcoin support! Then all of you will just cry! 👍🏼🙈😅 We are surely, living in a Post Truth era. Wow! Just Wow! :D Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 27, 2016, 09:46:08 PM Cryptotraider16 you should respond to the allegations against your founder & friends.
Tell us what you think of the news that came out about the banks accounts being seized etc. Or.. Hide & cry Troll. And i need to tell you i am not interested in who likes whom around here.. this is not High School. I want to discuss the truth with people.. any and all people. I am not for or against anyone here. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: MirkoIta on December 28, 2016, 10:00:37 AM This is an important news let's hope it will be only the start, I'm sure if they investigate on most of the scam ICOs happening daily they will find a few known people behind all of them.
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 28, 2016, 11:54:30 AM Cryptotraider16 you should respond to the allegations against your founder & friends. Tell us what you think of the news that came out about the banks accounts being seized etc. Or.. Hide & cry Troll. And i need to tell you i am not interested in who likes whom around here.. this is not High School. I want to discuss the truth with people.. any and all people. I am not for or against anyone here. I cant sat snything since LEO have no problems! Leoxchsnge is bacwkd by polsnd bank! Dont know what you talk! Did you think 25 ambasadors will meet scam or ponzi and support thrm!!!!wtf you talking man! Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 28, 2016, 11:56:22 AM China ambasador in Uk support LEO scam?! Wtf you kids talk! ?
This forum is full of losers! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ePEfgorkc Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: turn2flush on December 28, 2016, 12:15:34 PM China ambasador in Uk support LEO scam?! Wtf you kids talk! ? This forum is full of losers! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ePEfgorkc If somebody have company supported from this type of guys than u must understand a little bit what is going on in background. If u dont understand then u must be a troll or a sheep guided by trolls. http://gb2.mofcom.gov.cn (http://gb2.mofcom.gov.cn) Here u can see who is this guy from china who support LEO. Trolls says this is fake, this is scam, etc. But whatever. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: turn2flush on December 28, 2016, 12:39:39 PM https://youtu.be/uKZ5PDsIGxs (https://youtu.be/uKZ5PDsIGxs)
And here (2.19 min) u can see Sir Danny Alexander, AIIB Vice Presidents and General Counsel, on LEO event at Great wall of China. And yes of course guys like him support scam like LEO and LEOcoin. Ha ha ha u are so so funny. And what is AIIB? Here u can see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank) Trolls again say this is fake, this is scam, this is ponzi, etc. And stupid sheep with no brain follow. Hihi Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 28, 2016, 12:41:27 PM China ambasador in Uk support LEO scam?! Wtf you kids talk! ? This forum is full of losers! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-7ePEfgorkc If somebody have company supported from this type of guys than u must understand a little bit what is going on in background. If u dont understand then u must be a troll or a sheep guided by trolls. http://gb2.mofcom.gov.cn (http://gb2.mofcom.gov.cn) Here u can see who is this guy from china who support LEO. Trolls says this is fake, this is scam, etc. But whatever. Big true! This forum full of kids! I think we spend time with kids!🙈🙈🙈🙈 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 28, 2016, 12:42:37 PM https://youtu.be/uKZ5PDsIGxs (https://youtu.be/uKZ5PDsIGxs) And here (2.19 min) u can see Sir Danny Alexander, AIIB Vice Presidents and General Counsel, on LEO event at Great wall of China. And yes of course guys like him support scam like LEO and LEOcoin. Ha ha ha u are so so funny. And what is AIIB? Here u can see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank) Trolls again say this is fake, this is scam, this is ponzi, etc. And stupid sheep with no brain follow. Hihi As i keep say time will show and troll kids will gone! Poor kids stay poor kids all life! The Secret! Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: obit33 on December 28, 2016, 01:13:04 PM As i keep say time will show and troll kids will gone! Poor kids stay poor kids all life! The Secret! the only troll-kid here is you, pushing your ugly scam on everyone with your endless opening of topics... leocoin is one of the most obvious and ugly corporate scamcoins I have ever witnessed... Noone in their right minds should be advertising nor buying it... it's a disgrace and you should be ashamed for trying to pump it... edit: you should change your name to cryptotraitor. best regards Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 28, 2016, 01:26:44 PM As i keep say time will show and troll kids will gone! Poor kids stay poor kids all life! The Secret! the only troll-kid here is you, pushing your ugly scam on everyone with your endless opening of topics... leocoin is one of the most obvious and ugly corporate scamcoins I have ever witnessed... Noone in their right minds should be advertising nor buying it... it's a disgrace and you should be ashamed for trying to pump it... edit: you should change your name to cryptotraitor. best regards Another troll kid! Go cry to your mam kid. 🤡😂 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: btc_zero_sum on December 28, 2016, 02:35:50 PM i have a legit question about this coin but i expect an answer from user "LEOcoin Foundation", "Cryptotraider16" is not able to continue a proper discussion and he is as predictable as my dog
on the LEOcoin Foundation signature is written: "Roel N. de Leeuw B.ec LEOcoin Foundation Community Manager Account for donations in LEOcoin: LWddTAj1UkJxZPyobBrmuQZFCQN9VS8jq7" i tried 2 different LEOcoin explorers to check the address LWddTAj1UkJxZPyobBrmuQZFCQN9VS8jq7: http://explorer.leocoin.org/ (searching for the address i get: "Address not seen on the network") http://blockchain.leocoin.org/ (here i get: Error! : Search found no results for: LWddTAj1UkJxZPyobBrmuQZFCQN9VS8jq7) after those i tested other explorers with same results. it's strange because those "explorers" officially belong to LEOcoin, if we check the domain whois history before the privacy guard we can find: Quote Registrant Name:dan andersson Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: 151 thame rd Registrant City:wallingford Registrant State/Province:N/A Registrant Postal Code:ox107dd Registrant Country:GB Registrant Phone:+44.1491811815 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email:danandersson@live.com my questions are: 1. does the LEOcoin blockchain even exists? 2. why such a digital currency allegedly used all around the world has not even a working official explorer? 3. why the "community manager" is accepting donations to an address that does not even exist on the blockchain? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 28, 2016, 04:16:25 PM @btc_zero_sum
That is an interesting bit of info you posted WOW ! I too would like to see some answers for that.. CryptoTrader should chime in here quick i think.. after all he just used 2 accounts to post 6 times in a row back to back. Funny they banned others for doing that yet this worthless little piece of shit spammer gets ignored ? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: nemgun on December 28, 2016, 04:41:17 PM the latest whois for link 1 :
Domain Name: LEOCOIN.ORG Domain ID: D172311887-LROR WHOIS Server: Referral URL: http://www.godaddy.com Updated Date: 2015-05-29T14:33:14Z Creation Date: 2014-04-24T08:04:07Z Registry Expiry Date: 2024-04-24T08:04:07Z Sponsoring Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146 Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Registrant ID: CR166681255 Registrant Name: Registration Private Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309 Registrant City: Scottsdale Registrant State/Province: Arizona Registrant Postal Code: 85260 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: Admin ID: CR166681257 Admin Name: Registration Private Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309 Admin City: Scottsdale Admin State/Province: Arizona Admin Postal Code: 85260 Admin Country: US Admin Phone: +1.4806242599 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +1.4806242598 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: Tech ID: CR166681256 Tech Name: Registration Private Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309 Tech City: Scottsdale Tech State/Province: Arizona Tech Postal Code: 85260 Tech Country: US Tech Phone: +1.4806242599 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +1.4806242598 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: Name Server: KAY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM Name Server: WALT.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM DNSSEC: unsigned For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp now link 2 : Domain Name: LEOCOIN.ORG Domain ID: D172311887-LROR WHOIS Server: Referral URL: http://www.godaddy.com Updated Date: 2015-05-29T14:33:14Z Creation Date: 2014-04-24T08:04:07Z Registry Expiry Date: 2024-04-24T08:04:07Z Sponsoring Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146 Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited Registrant ID: CR166681255 Registrant Name: Registration Private Registrant Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC Registrant Street: DomainsByProxy.com Registrant Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309 Registrant City: Scottsdale Registrant State/Province: Arizona Registrant Postal Code: 85260 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: +1.4806242599 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: +1.4806242598 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: Admin ID: CR166681257 Admin Name: Registration Private Admin Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC Admin Street: DomainsByProxy.com Admin Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309 Admin City: Scottsdale Admin State/Province: Arizona Admin Postal Code: 85260 Admin Country: US Admin Phone: +1.4806242599 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: +1.4806242598 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: Tech ID: CR166681256 Tech Name: Registration Private Tech Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC Tech Street: DomainsByProxy.com Tech Street: 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309 Tech City: Scottsdale Tech State/Province: Arizona Tech Postal Code: 85260 Tech Country: US Tech Phone: +1.4806242599 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: +1.4806242598 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: Name Server: KAY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM Name Server: WALT.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM DNSSEC: unsigned It looks like they learn from you guys, the informations are now hidden. Could you please explain why such a "legit" project hides his informations while it should be maintained by a foundation ? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 28, 2016, 05:02:16 PM Ya no shit.. they went and did the ole "Scottsdale" Hide the records routine.. classic :D
I still think that should be a violation and may be ? You have to have a valid contact and name with your domain or it's potentially pulled. I seen the tech site Neowin.net pulled for days before because they pissed some guy off. So he reported that their email was no longer valid on the domain registration. It took days to get the email changed and the domain restored. It's a popular site so it was a pretty big blow. Point being is you HAVE to have valid contact info or your site is in violation and can be suspended if you are caught. Clearly these proxy services shitcoin makers have been using here for years are violating the spirit of the domain registration rule / law. I really hope they crack down on this bullshit and ban the scam proxies. Only time i ever seen one used was by scammers. ..not legit "Foundations" Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: 2012 on December 28, 2016, 05:08:06 PM Good to see another ponzi scheme have been exposed with some horrible facts. Very hard to stop the people to make fraud attempt with these kind of mlm business model.
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 28, 2016, 05:57:27 PM How funny you are kids really!
I cant stop to smile each time you post here omfg! Love you all! What a poor life you allhave... sorry for your kids to have ..... dads if you have kids! I hope not!🙈🙈🙈🙈 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 29, 2016, 02:22:43 AM Why is the address listed on the ANN topic for the foundation coming up "not seen on the network" ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545712.0 http://cryptobe.com/chain/LEOcoin And get this people.. Total Supply 86,002,254 LEO Total Premine 50,000,000 LEO http://i63.tinypic.com/33e4pkz.jpg ..i was laughing at the price graph at CoinMarketCap :D http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/leocoin/ Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: NattyLiteCoin on December 29, 2016, 03:32:09 AM Spoetnik, as always, disrespecting crypto Big timers making time out of their busy day to bless him with the sunlight of the spirit.
Hater🙄 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: o0o0 on December 29, 2016, 07:48:23 AM How funny you are kids really! I cant stop to smile each time you post here omfg! Love you all! What a poor life you allhave... sorry for your kids to have ..... dads if you have kids! I hope not!🙈🙈🙈🙈 cryptotraider16 has convinced me with his arguments since they are so valid. being such a legitimate cryptocurrency i with big volumes and backings by high level people i thought bugger it, i'll risk 100k. i went to bittrex and couldnt see its trading pair... thought hmm bittrex must be lame so i went to poloniex hmm not there either. help cryptotraider why isnt it on bittrex or poloniex with such large markets. spoetnik why cant i find it on polo or bittrex if its so not a scam? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: memequiserle on December 29, 2016, 09:11:58 AM Funny thread sportnik ! Thanks for extra advertise! Soon all willsee you are a funny kid! But thx for free advertise! Yeah 8 exchanges trade scam coin omfg you are so so funny and all who are with you. Kids! Real realsoon some real important peoples from crypto world will be LEOcoin support! Then all of you will just cry! 👍🏼🙈😅 i want to ask for you you dev, leocoin, if not why your force promote leocoin, and always attact is another person write or talk review leocoin is bad Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 29, 2016, 09:53:52 AM @o0o0
I will try and answer that for you ;) If it was vaguely legit and had any of the things going on claimed by our resident shill.. It WOULD be listed on those 2 exchanges. The fact it is not listed is a huge red flag. They claim all kinds of insane crap with this coin and claim hundreds of thousands of users have adopted LEO. Problem is if that was true it would be one of the top coins.. EVERYWHERE ! They would not need to launch their own exchange which i was told was DEAD with no activity. Really i find it funny this pathetic shill is plowing on. It amounts to amusement for us all as he rail roads his own shitcoin in pure desperation. @NattyLiteCoin Nice account.. i HAVE seen it before. So... when did you buy it CryptoTrader16 ? Know what you are doing ? Exposing all your accounts so they can all be banned eventually. And i know they will be because mod's have already had to delete your topics here. So i highly doubt your behavior will improve. You have in fact been violating a ton of the rules here all along. I hope your having fun shill and don't forget.. Spoetnik Loves You <3 :D Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: nemgun on December 29, 2016, 11:08:35 AM @o0o0 I will try and answer that for you ;) If it was vaguely legit and had any of the things going on claimed by our resident shill.. It WOULD be listed on those 2 exchanges. The fact it is not listed is a huge red flag. They claim all kinds of insane crap with this coin and claim hundreds of thousands of users have adopted LEO. Problem is if that was true it would be one of the top coins.. EVERYWHERE ! They would not need to launch their own exchange which i was told was DEAD with no activity. Really i find it funny this pathetic shill is plowing on. It amounts to amusement for us all as he rail roads his own shitcoin in pure desperation. @NattyLiteCoin Nice account.. i HAVE seen it before. So... when did you buy it CryptoTrader16 ? Know what you are doing ? Exposing all your accounts so they can all be banned eventually. And i know they will be because mod's have already had to delete your topics here. So i highly doubt your behavior will improve. You have in fact been violating a ton of the rules here all along. I hope your having fun shill and don't forget.. Spoetnik Loves You <3 :D spoetnic is totally true about this, why isn't leocoin's thread on top of the announcement section ? it means that projects like WAVE and ... Are far more popular than leocoin, plus cryptotrader and some newbie accounts are the only ones who talk about this coin, why isn't this coin liste in major exchanges ? Why isn't it accepted by merchants as it is so widely used ? So many questions, too few answers, this means, it is an obvious scam ... Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 29, 2016, 12:35:34 PM Well o0o0 gets credit for raising that concern.
I just repeated what he said sort of.. All i know is this group is audacious and bold. All the various different LEO things sort of scare me. They were mentioned on a fraud web site in 2014 too. With their ponzi marketing DVD's they were selling with seminars. Which it turns out the coin here plays a central key role in the whole facade. I encourage people to dig into the info on LEO coin. Come to your own conclusions. Don't invest blindly.. take the time to do some reading first. It concerns me that users would simply say well who cares.. can i profit on Poloniex with it ? Well you can't because it is NOT listed on there :D ;) Hopefully people take away from this the PRO scammers are HERE. The kind of people that were doing this long before Bitcoin existed. And lastly, we can't expose all scams but we can at least get the worst of them. It's worth it if we can prevent 1 single person from getting wrapped up in their scammy crap. Because if they do get trapped in a ponzi they will feel like their only hope of getting out and breaking even is to sucker in another victim. Which is how these typos of things work. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Febo on December 29, 2016, 01:01:19 PM Well o0o0 gets credit for raising that concern. I just repeated what he said sort of.. We need to get a special badges for scam disclosurers. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 29, 2016, 01:17:27 PM How funny you are kids really! I cant stop to smile each time you post here omfg! Love you all! What a poor life you allhave... sorry for your kids to have ..... dads if you have kids! I hope not!🙈🙈🙈🙈 cryptotraider16 has convinced me with his arguments since they are so valid. being such a legitimate cryptocurrency i with big volumes and backings by high level people i thought bugger it, i'll risk 100k. i went to bittrex and couldnt see its trading pair... thought hmm bittrex must be lame so i went to poloniex hmm not there either. help cryptotraider why isnt it on bittrex or poloniex with such large markets. spoetnik why cant i find it on polo or bittrex if its so not a scam? You have on dabtc that is huge exchange right now 8 milion $ bigger then your bittrex or livecoin bitter then you bittrex! Kid go get some milk 🙈😜 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 29, 2016, 01:22:03 PM Love you spoetnik! In few weeks or months all will see how smart you are! No valid user at all! But anyway i still love you!
I think you really need few canax a day with your energy! Love all kids who keep follow you! You all togther can make together 5-10btc its why you will complsin all life! Its so nice to play with you... ha ha i love you you alll! Kissss kids 😍🤡 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 29, 2016, 01:24:10 PM Wallet addres with no coins on addres cant show in blockchain you smart kids! Onfg!
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: crypto jerk on December 29, 2016, 02:04:49 PM @cryptotrader16
Please come back when your balls drop son. No one wants your teenagemutantninjaturtle bullshit ponzi scheme. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: obit33 on December 29, 2016, 02:05:07 PM I think you really need few canax a day with your energy! I think you probably mean XanaX, and seeing you make 3 posts in a row I think you are the one who's psychologically challenged here... Especially seeing you keep defending the most obvious scam in crypto at this moment... freaking LeoCoin... Cryptotraider16, your username is now tainted with the smell of scam forever... it will keep hunting you on this forum forever, your credibility will be nill forever... Wherever I, and others, will see you post scammy crap, we will call you out for it, forever... best regards, Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: fortunecrypto on December 29, 2016, 02:18:03 PM Good to see another ponzi scheme have been exposed with some horrible facts. Very hard to stop the people to make fraud attempt with these kind of mlm business model. I think this is on eof the vain of crypto currency,people creating crypto currency for their ponzi mlm scheme,many more are going to come in in this kind of market,because people are believing and in fact investing,they are taking down decentralization because of their ponzi coin. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 29, 2016, 02:18:49 PM Wallet addres with no coins on addres cant show in blockchain you smart kids! Onfg! Can anyone here confirm his claim i quoted ? I'd try it out myself but i do not want to have to get and install a wallet for his coin. Or worse visit any of those LEO web sites.. Off hand i have never heard of that before. Does LEO Coin work in some different way than most other coins ? A wallet address with no coins will not show up on an explorer ? What in the flying fuck ? LOL :D :o and yeah yeah i love you too scammer :-* PS: I got Milk too.. i polished off a Family Size box of Golden Grahams with it http://i58.tinypic.com/iz2u68.gif Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 29, 2016, 03:17:37 PM Wallet addres with no coins on addres cant show in blockchain you smart kids! Onfg! Can anyone here confirm his claim i quoted ? I'd try it out myself but i do not want to have to get and install a wallet for his coin. Or worse visit any of those LEO web sites.. Off hand i have never heard of that before. Does LEO Coin work in some different way than most other coins ? A wallet address with no coins will not show up on an explorer ? What in the flying fuck ? LOL :D :o and yeah yeah i love you too scammer :-* PS: I got Milk too.. i polished off a Family Size box of Golden Grahams with it http://i58.tinypic.com/iz2u68.gif Make and try you smart guy! Omfg you say that you dont know that!? Try leocoin wallet and then troll! Omfg! 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🤡🤡🤡🤡😍😍 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: o0o0 on December 29, 2016, 03:40:02 PM How funny you are kids really! I cant stop to smile each time you post here omfg! Love you all! What a poor life you allhave... sorry for your kids to have ..... dads if you have kids! I hope not!🙈🙈🙈🙈 cryptotraider16 has convinced me with his arguments since they are so valid. being such a legitimate cryptocurrency i with big volumes and backings by high level people i thought bugger it, i'll risk 100k. i went to bittrex and couldnt see its trading pair... thought hmm bittrex must be lame so i went to poloniex hmm not there either. help cryptotraider why isnt it on bittrex or poloniex with such large markets. spoetnik why cant i find it on polo or bittrex if its so not a scam? You have on dabtc that is huge exchange right now 8 milion $ bigger then your bittrex or livecoin bitter then you bittrex! Kid go get some milk 🙈😜 i think everyone with leocoin should sell all they have right now. cryptotraider said 800% so ask him why if you dont get that. sell all you have and turn that into 800% more bitcoin than you started with. o wait you cant. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: nemgun on December 29, 2016, 03:49:32 PM I just noticed the .info extention for the leocoin domain. Plus the website doesn't load at all, guys, you should really buy a cheap .com domain, and solve your hosting problems because it is really messy for such "Rich" coin, shame on you ...
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 29, 2016, 03:55:50 PM Keep troll kids with no argument!
Real peoples and members see how funny you are 🙈🤡 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: santaclaws on December 29, 2016, 04:06:34 PM Funny thread sportnik ! Thanks for extra advertise! Soon all willsee you are a funny kid! But thx for free advertise! Yeah 8 exchanges trade scam coin omfg you are so so funny and all who are with you. Kids! Real realsoon some real important peoples from crypto world will be LEOcoin support! Then all of you will just cry! 👍🏼🙈😅 Sure glad I came here. Now I'm learning how u dirtbags scam everyone. Fuck you. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: gnargnar on December 29, 2016, 04:46:34 PM :D :D Probably the first time ever here, since years following the scene, I'm seeing such a scammer (Cryptotraider16 and all his bought BCT accounts) doing more harm than good to his own scam coin...
....Talk about desperation! I think Bitcointalk have hit a new low by allowing such scam to get spammed daily, non-stop. He need to get banned, all his sockspuppets. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: nemgun on December 29, 2016, 04:50:01 PM :D :D Probably the first time ever here, since years following the scene, I'm seeing such a scammer (Cryptotraider16 and all his bought BCT accounts) doing more harm than good to his own scam coin... ....Talk about desperation! I think Bitcointalk have hit a new low by allowing such scam to get spammed daily, non-stop. He need to get banned, all his sockspuppets. If they wanted to get ride of all these scammers they would have recruited more moderators, or even made a dedicated anti-scammers team, but i think that been scamed or not depends only on each one's behaviour, we must be constantly aware of them, or they will screw us. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 29, 2016, 06:07:33 PM Who scam anybody kids!?
What about 8 big exchanges that have names and you kids have what? Only username that tou hide! Come on kids growup! Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: crypto jerk on December 29, 2016, 09:45:24 PM Who scam anybody kids!? Scam devs Dan Anderson and Atif Kamran What is your relationship with these two? Show us on the doll where they touched you. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 29, 2016, 10:31:25 PM Who scam anybody kids!? Scam devs Dan Anderson and Atif Kamran What is your relationship with these two? Show us on the doll where they touched you. I am cryptp traider that hold and trade: Btc Eth Monero Leocoin Maidsafe Xaurum Some lisk and ltc just hold! You can talk what you want but 2016 was crazy year! 2017 wll be even bigger since lat monero jump was crazy good 🙈😜👍🏼 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 30, 2016, 02:26:57 AM How old is it ? ..2 years ? ..3 years ?
Why do i ask ? 50 million was premined.. then ? Since we seen after all these years roughly 30 million mined. Is that not hilarious ? I almost forgot.. According to the ANN topic 40 million of the premine is.. well.. gone :o It says early on the page it was premined for the Foundation for 50 million. A little further down it says the Foundation "holds" 10 million. There is no other mention of it. And i have asked and have been ignored dozens of times. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on December 30, 2016, 09:11:06 AM How old is it ? ..2 years ? ..3 years ? Why do i ask ? 50 million was premined.. then ? Since we seen after all these years roughly 30 million mined. Is that not hilarious ? I almost forgot.. According to the ANN topic 40 million of the premine is.. well.. gone :o It says early on the page it was premined for the Foundation for 50 million. A little further down it says the Foundation "holds" 10 million. There is no other mention of it. And i have asked and have been ignored dozens of times. As you csn read 40 milion is deliver to 250k leo ltd members! Calculate 40milion %250.000...approx 150 coins each member... Man... now new year time! I wish you a happy new year 2017! Love you 👍🏼🤡 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 30, 2016, 10:05:04 AM How old is it ? ..2 years ? ..3 years ? Why do i ask ? 50 million was premined.. then ? Since we seen after all these years roughly 30 million mined. Is that not hilarious ? I almost forgot.. According to the ANN topic 40 million of the premine is.. well.. gone :o It says early on the page it was premined for the Foundation for 50 million. A little further down it says the Foundation "holds" 10 million. There is no other mention of it. And i have asked and have been ignored dozens of times. As you csn read 40 milion is deliver to 250k leo ltd members! Calculate 40milion %250.000...approx 150 coins each member... Man... now new year time! I wish you a happy new year 2017! Love you 👍🏼🤡 Pure Fucking Bullshit. Where do i even begin ? Lets' start off with the claim. First off you are right here and now mentioning this for the very first time. No where on the ANN topic does it say this........ WHY ? Second of all why is YOU are telling us this ? And why is it you and your sick-puppet accounts are the only ones EVER talking about LEO Coin ? And why is it that YOU are the central authority on LEO coin ? It seems to me you have far more information than the actual dev of the coin who rarely speaks yet when he does he spews a load of bullshit run around semantics. So of all the accounts on this forum talking about LEO coin.. It is 2 of you we can tell by the posting styles etc. You are not the dev.. i can tell because he can speak English :D But it's blatantly obvious you are the one controlling an army of sock-puppet accounts her spamming about LEO. Do you get how blatant / obvious of a pathetic little clown you are looking like here ? Apparently you job is to post information here on LEO coin NON STOP. Others have pointed out how you always make these claims like you know inside things on the coin. Like new changes coming up in the future that will of course rocket the price up you claim. Yet how in the flying fuck would YOU know ? And here you are again spewing more shit that only the scammers behind the coin would know. Yet they didn't even say it. You are.. here and now for the very first time. You do realize you are being played like a fucking puppet right ? The more you keep coming back and flapping your broken English gums the more of us drown you in you drown pathetic bullshit. We are essentially baiting your dumb fucking ass LOL So you come running back with more dumb defense claims.. But hey, let's dig into the claim of yours ;) 250k users ? I sure as fucking hell don't think so kid. There is no 250k users of that coin on planet earth. I don't think there is that many on any coin let alone an obscure blatant scam coin NOT listed on major exchanges. You and your scammer buddies also claimed the "LEO Exchange" had 50,000 users. When people looked at it there was 1 BTC trade volume and like 3 or 4 coins. YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR period . Further more why did you switch to advising people go to another different exchange instead of the LEO Exchange if there is 50k users on it ? Make any sense ? Fuck no it's doesn't. LOL And people i know damn well what this scammy little fraud is driving at and trying to say but i am luring him into saying it so i can nail his fucking little scammer ass. Why else did i badger him about the premine ;) So he has given me my answer after ignoring me a dozen times huh ? :D Ok then.. People take guess where those 250k are coming from ? Seminars.. buying Ponzi DVD's. Otherwise show me any foundation members here at Bitcointalk who were given premine money back when it launched years ago.. and then show me 250,000 Bitcointalk.org members saying they were given premine money. It's real simple.. that is their bullshit cover story and i knew it was all along. And it's such bullshit that of course the dev did not put that info in the ANN. It would scare people away. Go ahead.. look at the ANN topic.. ya the *NEW* moderated one ::) Do you see the level of activity where there was 250k + users talking ? Even 1,000 users ? Fuck no.. you see this Shill and his puppets and the dev circle-jerking hard.. that's it ! There is a reason the world govt's are accusing them of running a PONZI scam. And why they are accused of FRAUD and why their bank accounts are seized and they are under serious police investigation facing charges. Because they are fucking running one that's why ! How do we know ? This shill just told us.. He wants us to think the ponzi victims lured in at seminars and buying the DVD's are being handed the premine coins. DO YOU PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT ? Or.. Do you believe the scam team has been STAKING the (POS) coins this whole time ? This scam they are running is barely passable on the surface. As soon as you dig into it the whole thing unravels fast & hard. Anyone with a shred of intelligence would have avoided this crap.. EVEN OF THEY KNEW IT WAS SCAMMY. Why ? Because even frauds have standards LOL If i wanted to participate in a scam for profits i would not join one destined to fail run by inept morons. I got to hand it to them though.. i have never seen any coin like this before. A tower ? a cafe ? an exchange ? a cell phone ? leo seminars for 150 euro's ? leo ponzi marketing dvd's for sale ? Like holy fucking shit ! These guys went all out on this shit hardcore ! Did you all see the size of that display coin in the picture earlier ? They had a coin the size of a man made custom for their seminars i am guessing. These fuckers aren't playin' around.. their "Big Time" hahahah No shit.. they have a Master Card credit card made up :o Did you see the amount of graphics doing a Google image search for LEO coin ? Their graphics artist is seriously busy.. i seen no crypto project ever that has had as much graphics done up as this. THEN.. they have a massive fucking army of web domains registered. Then.. they have gone to various crypto sites online name dropping LEO coin as hard as possible. Then they went to every Crypto News web site they could find and "Submitted" news stories ..for a fee of course. Cointelegraph is scammy for example so they will of course charge them a fee and run their scam shit. They were caught doing this already. Funny though is the ultimate fuck up is coming here and spewing retarded bullshit non stop. THAT ..is what took their scam down.. no the other shit but coming here and posting silly bullshit. PS: I love you MORE CryptoTRAITOR16 :-* :-* :-* Everybody join the LEO "ECOSYSTEM" NOW ! http://i63.tinypic.com/2m6l3ie.jpg Not sure where on this chart shown below it says they get paid LEO coins.. http://leocoinworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/leocoin-mining-41.jpg Need more LEO ? JUL 4th 2014 = http://behindmlm.com/companies/leo-review-personal-development-dvds-recruitment/ APR 4th 2015 = http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-alternative-leocoin-pyramid/ Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: PikachuYou on December 30, 2016, 12:36:47 PM that cryptotraider16 is so pathetic with his sock puppets.
I mean, it is so obvious that he is behind this other hyping newbie accounts as he has the same writing style and makes the same mistakes in every fucking post. ::) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on December 30, 2016, 07:15:00 PM that cryptotraider16 is so pathetic with his sock puppets. I mean, it is so obvious that he is behind this other hyping newbie accounts as he has the same writing style and makes the same mistakes in every fucking post. ::) No really ? 👍🏼🤡 http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/2014/10/obvious-pizza.jpg http://cdn.rsvlts.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/water1.jpg http://en.bcdn.biz/Images/2015/10/26/b069b680-d4a1-4dc0-9972-548d21e6527c.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/23u54rs.jpg Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: mladenbabic on January 01, 2017, 05:50:32 PM Too many troll here! You are fraud!!!
2017 is LEOcoin year!!! You will see :) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Ablazen on January 01, 2017, 06:17:25 PM That is ver bad for LEOcoin. Why is MLM Ponzi for Leocoin.
I saw all scammed altcoins everywhere and it never stops . That's disappointed , guys. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: flekkelek on January 02, 2017, 12:07:27 AM Too many troll here! You are fraud!!! you are brain damaged for sure.2017 is LEOcoin year!!! You will see :) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 02, 2017, 03:43:53 AM Too many troll here! You are fraud!!! 2017 is LEOcoin year!!! You will see :) Click the report button for users "trolling" Just remember the CryptoTraiter16 has had his topics here deleted by staff for spamming. So hmm lets count it up.. who has been caught breaking the rules here lately ? LOL CryptoTraiter = 1 and Spoetnik = 0 I do believe i am winning :D Fraud ? by mentioning the fraud investigation launched ? By asking questions about the missing premine money ? Nope.. that is called due diligence. Something the users advise people to use. What we are talking about is accountability and transparency. If that premine money was used for a legit purpose then so be it. I am not guilty of anything by simply being the first to ask the question though. We should be asking questions (posting FUD) It is the responsible and intelligent thing to do. Don't like my comments ? Tell Dan you need more money and go create another new account about it :D Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: poloniexwhale on January 02, 2017, 04:51:58 AM Leo, swiscoin, and many Chinese alts which never posted OP in these forum are MLM ponzi scams, shame on them, pure scammers deserve to be forked.
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: o0o0 on January 02, 2017, 02:20:31 PM Too many troll here! You are fraud!!! 2017 is LEOcoin year!!! You will see :) hello cryptotraider... manually making new accounts is so tiresome. learn to script it you leocoin fucktard. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Macro The Crypto on January 02, 2017, 02:55:12 PM This is the big news for all and especially for the LEO shil. ::) Their shil will be stopping make a troll on every place. :D Get depressed and stressed, their mentality has disturbed. But how about the result of that news now? I curious. Simon Karakas the actual Founder of LEO COIN,Started a NEW COIN Macro The Crypto (http://Macro The Crypto) Simon Karakas & Susan Barth Mayer Macro The Crypto “People change and often they become the person they said they will never be”…Unknown Simon Karakas, 27-30 years of age, a well-known Individual to law enforcement in Slovenia and Interpol, has a long history relating money laundering and fraudulent activities. He started his career in Leo Coin, Mobile Coin, he mainly works with Asian`s and targets European residence Simon Karakas have been avoiding the Financial Action Task Force on Money Laundering (FATF) for many years, which is recognized as the international standard setter for Anti-money Laundering (AML) by executing transaction via Asian organized crime such as Chinese Triads using the company account in Hong Kong. Simon Karakas uses cryptocurrency for the processing of criminal proceeds to disguise his/groups illegal origin" in order to "legitimize" the gains of crime. Virtual currencies, have recently become popular and are intended to serve as a type of money. They may be traded on online exchanges for conventional currencies, including the U.S dollar, Euro or any other Fiat currency, or used to purchase goods or services, usually online. We are concerned that the rising use of virtual currencies in the global marketplace may entice fraudsters to lure investors into Ponzi and other schemes in which these currencies are used to facilitate fraudulently, or simply fabricated, investments or transactions. The fraud may also involve an unregistered offering or trading platform. These schemes often promise high returns for getting in on the ground floor of a growing Internet phenomenon Simon Karakas (http://Simon Karakas)with many fraudsters, Ponzi scheme organizers often use`s the fake innovation, technology, and product or growth industry to entice investors and give their scheme the promise of high returns. Potential investors are often less skeptical of an investment opportunity when assessing something novel and new or so-called “cutting-edge.” read more : http://crypto-whistleblower.blogspot...am_6.html#more (http://crypto-whistleblower.blogspot...am_6.html#more) https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?713934-Look-Out-for-Potential-Scams-Using-Virtual-Currency (https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?713934-Look-Out-for-Potential-Scams-Using-Virtual-Currency) https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?714484-Macro-The-Crypto-Simon-Karakas-amp-Susan-Barth-Mayer (https://www.scam.com/showthread.php?714484-Macro-The-Crypto-Simon-Karakas-amp-Susan-Barth-Mayer) ''if he contacts you please notify your nearest law enforcement agency. Just recently, Macro The Crypto has proven that this statement can be true. Who knows what could have happened that they can no longer pay their investors and partners; as we speak,Susan Barth from Baden Austria & Simon Karakas from Slovenia are owners of MACRO THE CRYPTO. MACRO The Crypto Partners in Crime`s GSA SELMAR BMW SLOVENIA KEPLER TERRA AMITIEAST UECB KOYO GREEN ODIN CHINA SANDELWOOD ACHESS WONG AND MARK HUNG CONCO PHILLIP GOAUTO BLACK SILICA SALT EVITA COPRA GOREX CAPITAL WANKA TRAVEL CITY AIRWAYS MNG www.selmar.si (http://www.selmar.si) We strongly advise you not to deposit anything with This is why it is recommended that you only deposit what you can afford to lose just in case the organization eventually folds up. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 02, 2017, 03:46:29 PM Well.. the LEO coin scheme has "folded up"
Their head guys had their "Foundation" related bank accounts seized by the govt. The banks involved were ordered to refuse any transactions associated with them. And because they are being accused and investigated for Fraud with an MLM Ponzi scheme (their words) I highly doubt Dan and the other idiot will get their money back. The gig is up :D They probably started on others long ago though.. it's what these scammers do. They know. They know when it's going tits up and make moves to start other scams ..in advance. These LEO assholes do not make a product to sell. What they do is sell you an "opportunity" to get in on the "ground floor" Their Lion picture i found online before sums it up nicely with the spelling mistake LOL It says "Missed out on Bitcon ?" Then join LEO etc.. Bitcon hahhaha More like LEO'CON' Don't forget they already had a track record of scammy shit before this LEO crap. Do some digging around and you will see THOUSANDS of pictures on these fuckers. Bill Clinton approved LOL https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv3QeL-WYAAQdbj.jpg https://yt3.ggpht.com/-yuB1Ke7vOPE/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/TKvntFA0qLc/s100-c-k-no-mo-rj-c0xffffff/photo.jpg Priscilla Bledsoe ? awww sweet heart your a fucking fraud too ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4R7i0g3Yjk http://i65.tinypic.com/2cfbcyq.jpg Quote Published on May 3, 2016 Now Is The Time! Don't Miss Out! The revolution is here! LeoCoin, DigixGlobal, the gold standard in peer-to-peer asset, TheOpenMinute w/ Shaun Djie, Bitcoin does not stop! DON’T MISS IT ! Global Community. Mass market digital currency, Proof of Stake, MyLeoTravel, global support, digital currency, digital cash, transparent, audible, and secure protocol. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O4R7i0g3Yjk/maxresdefault.jpg Powered by ETHEREUM ? hahahahhahaha of course it is :D Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: nemgun on January 03, 2017, 10:32:57 AM Awesome researches Spoetnik !
I hope that leocoin's heads will finally understand that using ponzy schemes will only bring them troubles, they even had troubles with regulators, amazing, what a shame for the cryptocurrencies world. But, i would like to ask you if you have any idea about the identity of cryptotrader ? don't you think he can be dan ? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 03, 2017, 11:53:21 AM I have no idea who CryptoTraiter16 is.
I highly doubt he is Dan or the other main guy They would probably not waste so much of their time here. And i expect better English from those two fraudsters too. So who is he ? Good question. I have had two ongoing solid theories. 1) He's just a large bag holder that bought some and is trying to hype it up every chance he gets. 2) He is the dev and / or paid by the dev or LEO guys to come here and advertise the coin. Question is.. does the dev have good English skills ? Yes i think he does. Why ? Because he has a history here of trying to smooth over his scam coin shit with long well written speeches. So i highly doubt CryptoTraiter16 is the same person as the guy who posted the coin here on the ANN. CryptoTraiter16 has with out a doubt created a LOT of new accounts here to spam on about LEO coin. The timing of when they are made and where they show up and what they say and even HOW they say it has me 100% convinced he is in fact in control of an army of puppet accounts here all screaming BUY LEO COIN ! I'd say there is a 50/50 chance that CryptoTraiter16 is a paid shill sent here by Dan's LEO fraud squad. Oh and.. When it comes to investigation i have done virtually nothing (i am lazy) ;D All i have done is put my browser search box on Google-IMAGE-Search ... When you do a images only search it returns a huge massive shitload of links with pictures. So any page that has an image.. has a "page" to read.. so it's easy to follow the trail ;) Most of them are "LEO" domains they created, often registered to Dan himself. So you too guys can also have your fun and dig up hilarious LEO bullshit LOL As they LOVE to say "NO Specialized Skills Required" ;D AND.. The jab i was making about "ANON" in that picture was yet MORE proof of their ANON claims. They got into trouble before by claiming on their mobile info app and on their web site.. that they had the worldest best crypto-currency ANON tech. Users actually screen capped it before they started to hide it some online locations. THAT ..was an ongoing bold faced lie. LEO coin offers no ANON features at all ! The screen cap i am talking about can be seen on the LEO fraud topic in the scam section (started by another user here) I started this topic to inform everyone about the authorities seizing their banks accounts and launching an investigation. AND.. To remind you all to cut the shit with crying FUD / TROLL. This shit is flooded with scammy projects and it's not just FUD. ::) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: flekkelek on January 03, 2017, 12:02:18 PM I have no idea who CryptoTraiter16 is. he is definitely not a big fish, he is just a peon who thinks too much about himself. Just check his style, I seriosly doubt he already finished with highschool, he is just related to this scamcoin and thinks spreading this shit is his holy mission. he is spamming with leocoin totally random topics, totally uncapable of rational thinking, just repeating the bullshit. Or he is the best troll of the centuryI highly doubt he is Dan or the other main guy They would probably not waste so much of their time here. And i expect better English from those two fraudsters too. So who is he ? Good question. I have had two ongoing solid theories. 1) He's just a large bag holder that bought some and is trying to hype it up every chance he gets. 2) He is the dev and / or paid by the dev or LEO guys to come here and advertise the coin. Question is.. does the dev have good English skills ? Yes i think he does. Why ? Because he has a history here of trying to smooth over his scam coin shit with long well written speeches. So i highly doubt CryptoTraiter16 is the same person as the guy who posted the coin here on the ANN. CryptoTraiter16 has with out a doubt created a LOT of new accounts here to spam on about LEO coin. The timing of when they are made and where they show up and what they say and even HOW they say it has me 100% convinced he is in fact in control of an army of puppet accounts here all screaming BUY LEO COIN ! I'd say there is a 50/50 chance that CryptoTraiter16 is a paid shill sent here by Dan's LEO fraud squad. Oh and.. When it comes to investigation i have done virtually nothing (i am lazy) ;D All i have done is put my browser search box on Google-IMAGE-Search ... When you do a images only search it returns a huge massive shitload of links with pictures. So any page that has an image.. has a "page" to read.. so it's easy to follow the trail ;) Most of them are "LEO" domains they created, often registered to Dan himself. So you too guys can also have your fun and dig up hilarious LEO bullshit LOL As they LOVE to say "NO Specialized Skills Required" ;D Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: btc_zero_sum on January 03, 2017, 12:26:15 PM there can be only 2 reasons for CryptoTraiter16 shill mission:
1 - He gets paid by LEOcoin to spam 2 - He is obsessed, heavy invested He does marketing all wrong, he might actually attracting the worst kind of attention to his master's scheme, he cannot stand discussions on any technical level and after max 2 posts he start to call "kid" anyone who doesn't lick his LEOcock spam. i personally ignore everything he posts, i am more concerned about the mods not taking action, for example putting into trash every thread he starts to talk about LEOcocks Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on January 03, 2017, 01:29:20 PM Ha ha nice guys i love you all!
I am just a cryptotraider like most of guys here but i can say i love you all! Yes i hold 200k leo! I hold also a lot other coins as i say 1 milion maidsafe,some eth ,btc ,monero and xaurum! 2 other altcoins i cant talk now 😎😎😎😎 I did fucking big money in 2016 but more i will make in 2017! I will be more rich but you trolss will be always poor kids! And yes i have only 1 account as admin,mod can see and i use phone and pc! LOL! I am not dev and not conected with LEO ltd! But i still tell you guys one day LEOcoin will be sucess coin! Just follow! You will never forget me 😍🤡 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: flekkelek on January 03, 2017, 02:02:05 PM why can't you talk about those 2 altcoins? Are those the next projects from leoscammer group? :D
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 03, 2017, 03:56:44 PM @Cryptotraider16
Why not tell us a bit about yourself then ? What country are you from ? It seems like English is not your first language.. so what is ? And how do you feel about the investigation launched against the LEO foundation / Coin leader etc ? Are you not worried considering you hold so many LEO coins ? I find it hard to believe you are not very concerned.. why ? Because you last comment tells us you highly covet hoarding money and bragging about it. Myself ? I do not. I get what i need to get by and the rest i couldn't care less about. You said this.. Quote I will be more rich but you trolss will be always poor kids! You don't know what "rich" is. And i suspect that is because you are fairly young. Life is not about hoarding money.. and it is I who feels sorry for YOU that believe this. Your type are sad & pathetic and missed the entire point of life. Good luck with that. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on January 03, 2017, 05:34:40 PM why can't you talk about those 2 altcoins? Are those the next projects from leoscammer group? :D You will hear but not from me but some other guru here 😎 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 03, 2017, 10:46:25 PM why can't you talk about those 2 altcoins? Are those the next projects from leoscammer group? :D You will hear but not from me but some other guru here 😎 It was YOU who i was asking the questions about you to. Why would anyone else answer them ? Unless.. you have other accounts here ? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: nemgun on January 04, 2017, 12:53:57 PM why can't you talk about those 2 altcoins? Are those the next projects from leoscammer group? :D You will hear but not from me but some other guru here 😎 It was YOU who i was asking the questions about you to. Why would anyone else else them ? Unless.. you have other accounts here ? It is so easy to buy an account on bitcointalk, so i suppose that he will actually buy one. I could also say that i own 2Mil maidsafe, or 500k eth, this is easy, anyone can say anything there. However it doesn't tell us who you are, nor why you advertise a scam coin, i would be curious to know your real motivations. If leoteam pays you, then i hope they pay you well, because as soon as someone will have an info about your identity you will be in big troubles here. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 04, 2017, 03:07:32 PM He is evasive and does not answer questions.
Yet he expects you to listen to him and invest your life savings in LEO coin. I have had nothing to hide in my time here.. unlike him. I am a loud mouth white guy from Kelowna, BC, Canada. And my trade activity or so called "agenda" has always been 100% transparent. I would like to see that guy comment on the topic title if anything. I find it hard to believe he could see that news come out and not be concerned. Anyone would be.. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: mladenbabic on January 04, 2017, 03:27:53 PM Cryptotraider16 is good person.., good freind and crypto expert, listen to him!!!
Spoutnik is stupid and poor troll from Canada, we are BIG communityi of Slovenja and Croatia There isn't investigation, i trust Dan! Watch his video! LEOcoin is good coin, buy stock now before 1 LEO = 10$ ;) ;) ;) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: nemgun on January 04, 2017, 03:32:32 PM Cryptotraider16 is good person.., good freind and crypto expert, listen to him!!! Spoutnik is stupid and poor troll from Canada, we are BIG communityi of Slovenja and Croatia There isn't investigation, i trust Dan! Watch his video! LEOcoin is good coin, buy stock now before 1 LEO = 10$ ;) ;) ;) Here he goes again, fake accounts, one more to add to the long list. Don't you have enough of polluting bitcointalk's database with your accounts ? they should really ask you to pay them for all the space you are consuming, one day they will have to dedicate a whole server just to manage your shit multi accounts. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 04, 2017, 06:21:07 PM Yup the so called Investigation was faked guys sorry it was just a joke ROFL
While waiting for the moon.. check out this Youtube video from "LEO Coin India" Bill Gates on Digital Currency One of the Largest crypto Currency Leocoin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMJjW3BUl6A) Yup.. no fraud.. no MLM scam. Yup.. worlds best ANON tech and worlds biggest crypto coin.. Bill Gates approved everybody so.. BUY MOAR CHEAP CONS NOW !!!! Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: flekkelek on January 04, 2017, 06:48:37 PM While waiting for the moon.. check out this Youtube video from "LEO Coin India" Fuck me! You have just convienced me, thank you! Now I'm able to invest to this beautiful crypto without any remorse.Bill Gates on Digital Currency One of the Largest crypto Currency Leocoin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMJjW3BUl6A) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on January 04, 2017, 08:31:28 PM again and again.time will tell a lot!
just troll...time will show everything. i still love you spoetnik! also again,i have only 1 account. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 04, 2017, 11:14:27 PM again and again.time will tell a lot! just troll...time will show everything. i still love you spoetnik! also again,i have only 1 account. Perceptive people have made it clear to you that this LEO stuff has made them suspicious. We all collectively see red-flags which makes us want more information on what is going on. That is not "Trolling". That is simply doing what we are all told to do.. "Exercise due diligence" (before investing) I thought i made it clear to you i have no personal interest in you. I have no desire to Troll on you (get a rise out of you) etc. YOU ..do not interest me. I am simply pointing out how you too as a user here have us concerned also. It does in fact seem like you control many accounts here with the same posting style. And the content posted with them.. more red-flags. The ultimate point here is we all have given you plenty of opportunities to clear the air and explain yourself. You either hide or get evasive.. more red-flags. For example.. If you wanted us to believe your claim of "I only have one account here" then you could have answered some of the questions posted. Such as who are you / where are you from etc. So.. I think we have very different definitions of "One Account Here" I would know, i have actually only ever logged into one account here ever. I also find it strange how much you "Love" me :o I AFRAID !!!111ONE Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: nemgun on January 05, 2017, 04:43:49 PM again and again.time will tell a lot! just troll...time will show everything. i still love you spoetnik! also again,i have only 1 account. Perceptive people have made it clear to you that this LEO stuff has made them suspicious. We all collectively see red-flags which makes us want more information on what is going on. That is not "Trolling". That is simply doing what we are all told to do.. "Exercise due diligence" (before investing) I thought i made it clear to you i have no personal interest in you. I have no desire to Troll on you (get a rise out of you) etc. YOU ..do not interest me. I am simply pointing out how you too as a user here have us concerned also. It does in fact seem like you control many accounts here with the same posting style. And the content posted with them.. more red-flags. The ultimate point here is we all have given you plenty of opportunities to clear the air and explain yourself. You either hide or get evasive.. more red-flags. For example.. If you wanted us to believe your claim of "I only have one account here" then you could have answered some of the questions posted. Such as who are you / where are you from etc. So.. I think we have very different definitions of "One Account Here" I would know, i have actually only ever logged into one account here ever. I also find it strange how much you "Love" me :o I AFRAID !!!111ONE (i love that bunny !) If i am also talking here is just because Spoetnik can be annoying when he wants to deliver a message, and you, you are still here talking, and arguing that Leo is blah blah blah. I am just amazed by the energy you put in advertising such a scam, and i wanted to check myself if it was a scam or not, and the way you act, just confirmed to me that it is a scam. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: bravehearth0319 on January 06, 2017, 04:59:55 AM I do believe that if some of the altcoins in crypto currencies will rise up and will connect into Multi-level Marketing system, surely that company will not last long exist. It will getting only for bad imaging in the bitcoin community. That was in my perception only, other than that, nothing.
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: bravehearth0319 on January 14, 2017, 07:53:40 AM This is an important news let's hope it will be only the start, I'm sure if they investigate on most of the scam ICOs happening daily they will find a few known people behind all of them. True, there are elite people behind all of them. And these people most of the time are participating in the coin that are running away in the long run to get the money of the investors. And that's what I saw in leocoin which back up by the company. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 14, 2017, 07:58:07 AM LEO guys are not even really hiding it that is the messed up thing.
Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: mladenbabic on January 14, 2017, 03:12:48 PM LEO guys are not even really hiding it that is the messed up thing. What hide? You stupid poor troll? Dont understand? LEOcoin foundation and many rich people like me has many coins. With POS we get many free coin every month. Do you now what POS is? We sell LEOcoin around world because we have many free coins, Foundation have most coins. this is because POS is good if you have many coin. This is marketing.., friend! ;) ;) ;) This is why LEOcoin is not POW anymore. This is not fraud, it is marketing! And if you buy LEOcoin now, soon will be 1$ with Eterheum anonymous transaction and Debit card ;) ;) ;) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 14, 2017, 03:52:13 PM LEO guys are not even really hiding it that is the messed up thing. What hide? You stupid poor troll? Dont understand? LEOcoin foundation and many rich people like me has many coins. With POS we get many free coin every month. Do you now what POS is? We sell LEOcoin around world because we have many free coins, Foundation have most coins. this is because POS is good if you have many coin. This is marketing.., friend! ;) ;) ;) This is why LEOcoin is not POW anymore. This is not fraud, it is marketing! And if you buy LEOcoin now, soon will be 1$ with Eterheum anonymous transaction and Debit card ;) ;) ;) I already had your account on my watch list. You are transparent and not fooling anyone. You are here lying and playing games to defraud people of money.. REAL money. Good luck with that NOOB. And be grateful i replied to a fucking nooby dummy / sock-puppet account here. Maybe get 10 posts THEN jiggle your little dick-holster around here scammer. ;) ;) ;) ;) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: mladenbabic on January 14, 2017, 04:03:41 PM What is your problem? Gratefull of what? Real money is good fro me, i have good life and my family too, you angry becaus you dont have real money?
Get a life kid! Or better you get LEOcoin, i can sell you some ;) Be smart Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 14, 2017, 04:41:59 PM What is your problem? Gratefull of what? Real money is good fro me, i have good life and my family too, you angry becaus you dont have real money? Get a life kid! Or better you get LEOcoin, i can sell you some ;) Be smart Don't like me exposing your scam then .. go create yet another puppet account about it CryptoTraitor16 :D You still love me mladenbabic ? 8) 8) 8) Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: LEOcoin Foundation on January 14, 2017, 08:00:34 PM My personal view on trolling, scam-calling and pumping …
Digital cash is an experiment with money. Due to its power to create tokens in a cryptographically secure way that ensures that it cannot be copied or forged, digital cash is fast, safe and depending on the coin: relatively private and deflationary in nature. Some are also decentral and democratic. In a free market environment, any company, institution or group of stakeholders can opt to create, promote and use disruptive technology, and if they do well, the market will determine the value of their undertaking. This means that from new start-ups, ex-bankers and scammers to genuine businesses, can give it a try. Even companies that use direct selling as their distribution strategy for products and services. As with any new initiative, there will be differences in view on how to evaluate such initiatives. Competitors will point at weaknesses, in order not to lose market share or investors. Governments will regulate, in order to be able to avoid a democratic money system outside of their control. Banks will study and learn so they will know how to protect their ways of money creation as long as possible. The establishment will obfuscate technical developments by using terminology that is hard to grasp for non-experts, or emphasize dangers, while at the same time hiding the innovative improvements that might help to deal with failing systems in the global financial and monetary areas. This said, a thread like this shows all of the above elements, it has the established posters, trolls, pumpers, real or allegedly real scammers and fair posters that act out of good faith or genuine worry. As yours truly is generally addressed as sock-puppet or rhetoric monstrum, I shall refrain from arguing about truths, as with any kind of fundamentalism or overly emotional disagreement, you cannot longer argue reasonably. Instead, I will try to bring some humor to this otherwise disturbingly poor thread as a token of good intention and this I do in the form of some (annotated) definitions in the hope we all may benefit from this, or at least have a strong emotional reaction, like fun or dislike. Fundamentalism - an ‘ism’ with no fun, too much damn, and not enough mental. Bart Ehrmann (Fundamentalism and freedom of expression and enterprise are on a tensed foot, just as people that trust LEOcoin and those that do not, may start to develop fundamentalist traits while attempting to argue.) Magic, n. - an art of converting superstition into coin. There are other arts serving the same high purpose, but the discreet lexicographer does not name them. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary (Fiat, or trust, is the art that we are attempting to learn in crypto-world.) Crisis – a mechanism to create problems that cause circumstances beyond one’s control that again call for measures that otherwise would not have been accepted without huge protest Global financial crisis – a fear, uncertainty and doubt strategy with the goal to reorganize property Authority – the power to let others abide by your will Media – Managers of perception that sell lies in order to make their audience believe that authorities protect them (instead of parasitize on them) Trolls – persons that are sometimes similar to media workers Democracy – form of government that protects the people for as long as they have the tool to set limits to the power of the authorities Debt – that what lenders need so they can confiscate possessions without having to work for them Interest – the price for borrowing money that previously did not exist Credit – already spending the money that you still have to work for in the future @all, I will not respond on this post – so take it or leave it. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: o0o0 on January 14, 2017, 09:07:40 PM My personal view on trolling, scam-calling and pumping … Digital cash is an experiment with money. Due to its power to create tokens in a cryptographically secure way that ensures that it cannot be copied or forged, digital cash is fast, safe and depending on the coin: relatively private and deflationary in nature. Some are also decentral and democratic. In a free market environment, any company, institution or group of stakeholders can opt to create, promote and use disruptive technology, and if they do well, the market will determine the value of their undertaking. This means that from new start-ups, ex-bankers and scammers to genuine businesses, can give it a try. Even companies that use direct selling as their distribution strategy for products and services. As with any new initiative, there will be differences in view on how to evaluate such initiatives. Competitors will point at weaknesses, in order not to lose market share or investors. Governments will regulate, in order to be able to avoid a democratic money system outside of their control. Banks will study and learn so they will know how to protect their ways of money creation as long as possible. The establishment will obfuscate technical developments by using terminology that is hard to grasp for non-experts, or emphasize dangers, while at the same time hiding the innovative improvements that might help to deal with failing systems in the global financial and monetary areas. This said, a thread like this shows all of the above elements, it has the established posters, trolls, pumpers, real or allegedly real scammers and fair posters that act out of good faith or genuine worry. As yours truly is generally addressed as sock-puppet or rhetoric monstrum, I shall refrain from arguing about truths, as with any kind of fundamentalism or overly emotional disagreement, you cannot longer argue reasonably. Instead, I will try to bring some humor to this otherwise disturbingly poor thread as a token of good intention and this I do in the form of some (annotated) definitions in the hope we all may benefit from this, or at least have a strong emotional reaction, like fun or dislike. Fundamentalism - an ‘ism’ with no fun, too much damn, and not enough mental. Bart Ehrmann (Fundamentalism and freedom of expression and enterprise are on a tensed foot, just as people that trust LEOcoin and those that do not, may start to develop fundamentalist traits while attempting to argue.) Magic, n. - an art of converting superstition into coin. There are other arts serving the same high purpose, but the discreet lexicographer does not name them. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary (Fiat, or trust, is the art that we are attempting to learn in crypto-world.) Crisis – a mechanism to create problems that cause circumstances beyond one’s control that again call for measures that otherwise would not have been accepted without huge protest Global financial crisis – a fear, uncertainty and doubt strategy with the goal to reorganize property Authority – the power to let others abide by your will Media – Managers of perception that sell lies in order to make their audience believe that authorities protect them (instead of parasitize on them) Trolls – persons that are sometimes similar to media workers Democracy – form of government that protects the people for as long as they have the tool to set limits to the power of the authorities Debt – that what lenders need so they can confiscate possessions without having to work for them Interest – the price for borrowing money that previously did not exist Credit – already spending the money that you still have to work for in the future @all, I will not respond on this post – so take it or leave it. what about your figureheads being past known scammers having bank accounts frozen etc. forget the other shit you posted we are questioning your peoples motives and credability. address those points. also to be fair and transparent you forgot to define zealot shills. you cant have trolls without your zealot shills like cryptoteaider16 come now get off that high horse and tell the truth or are you a fibber Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: buwaytress on January 14, 2017, 10:11:20 PM These are, as Spoetnik mentions, people who were well-schooled in the traditional MLM ponzi methodology. There are actually only a handful right at the top who work on a series of MLM ventures at a time, running on a well-oiled machine that just moves along when a ponzi is found out or when it runs out of new members.
The ones who get caught are not part of the inner circle, unfortunately... the real puppet masters have not been caught and only leave when the new generation has been trained to take over. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Cryptotraider16 on January 14, 2017, 10:54:13 PM My personal view on trolling, scam-calling and pumping … Digital cash is an experiment with money. Due to its power to create tokens in a cryptographically secure way that ensures that it cannot be copied or forged, digital cash is fast, safe and depending on the coin: relatively private and deflationary in nature. Some are also decentral and democratic. In a free market environment, any company, institution or group of stakeholders can opt to create, promote and use disruptive technology, and if they do well, the market will determine the value of their undertaking. This means that from new start-ups, ex-bankers and scammers to genuine businesses, can give it a try. Even companies that use direct selling as their distribution strategy for products and services. As with any new initiative, there will be differences in view on how to evaluate such initiatives. Competitors will point at weaknesses, in order not to lose market share or investors. Governments will regulate, in order to be able to avoid a democratic money system outside of their control. Banks will study and learn so they will know how to protect their ways of money creation as long as possible. The establishment will obfuscate technical developments by using terminology that is hard to grasp for non-experts, or emphasize dangers, while at the same time hiding the innovative improvements that might help to deal with failing systems in the global financial and monetary areas. This said, a thread like this shows all of the above elements, it has the established posters, trolls, pumpers, real or allegedly real scammers and fair posters that act out of good faith or genuine worry. As yours truly is generally addressed as sock-puppet or rhetoric monstrum, I shall refrain from arguing about truths, as with any kind of fundamentalism or overly emotional disagreement, you cannot longer argue reasonably. Instead, I will try to bring some humor to this otherwise disturbingly poor thread as a token of good intention and this I do in the form of some (annotated) definitions in the hope we all may benefit from this, or at least have a strong emotional reaction, like fun or dislike. Fundamentalism - an ‘ism’ with no fun, too much damn, and not enough mental. Bart Ehrmann (Fundamentalism and freedom of expression and enterprise are on a tensed foot, just as people that trust LEOcoin and those that do not, may start to develop fundamentalist traits while attempting to argue.) Magic, n. - an art of converting superstition into coin. There are other arts serving the same high purpose, but the discreet lexicographer does not name them. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary (Fiat, or trust, is the art that we are attempting to learn in crypto-world.) Crisis – a mechanism to create problems that cause circumstances beyond one’s control that again call for measures that otherwise would not have been accepted without huge protest Global financial crisis – a fear, uncertainty and doubt strategy with the goal to reorganize property Authority – the power to let others abide by your will Media – Managers of perception that sell lies in order to make their audience believe that authorities protect them (instead of parasitize on them) Trolls – persons that are sometimes similar to media workers Democracy – form of government that protects the people for as long as they have the tool to set limits to the power of the authorities Debt – that what lenders need so they can confiscate possessions without having to work for them Interest – the price for borrowing money that previously did not exist Credit – already spending the money that you still have to work for in the future @all, I will not respond on this post – so take it or leave it. Thanks for great post but troll will keep troll! But as i say its life! 👍🏼 Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 15, 2017, 03:39:42 AM My personal view on trolling, scam-calling and pumping … -snipped- Thanks for great post but troll will keep troll! But as i say its life! 👍🏼 The guys behind this coin are accused of Fraud and an MLM scam and then had their bank accounts seized (last i heard) so.. that is "Trolling" ? I don't think you know what the word means then. It is what it is.. the outcome ? I have no idea. Put it all on the table and be honest.. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: o0o0 on January 15, 2017, 10:50:24 AM pm from leocoin foundation for all to read. i dont believe in direct pm bs. be visible so here it is
Quote what about your figureheads being past known scammers having bank accounts frozen etc. forget the other shit you posted we are questioning your peoples motives and credability. address those points. also to be fair and transparent you forgot to define zealot shills. you cant have trolls without your zealot shills like cryptoteaider16 come now get off that high horse and tell the truth or are you a fibber This may be a discussion you rather should have with those 'figureheads', and not with me. I came to the LEOcoin Foundation from the miner community. And for what it is worth, I do partially understand the aversion against a digital currency backed-up by people that are active in the direct selling industry, but otherwise do not share these views on them being scammers; otherwise I would not have chosen to advocate LEOcoin. And for the record, Cryptotraider16 is not paid by me or the Foundation, and I doubt if he is paid by anyone else. He is neither my sock-puppet nor my spokesman, but a person that I have never personally met and who happens to be the owner of a substantial sum of LEOcoin, which he acquired on the market. In a way, a zealot shill is a reversed troll, but both seem a tad extreme to me. I had to look up 'fibber' in the urban dictionary, as I am a non-native English speaker. I am not under the impression that I have never lied in my life, but I certainly do not qualify as fibber, but thanks for pointing me at a new word. As I represent the LEOcoin Foundation and not a MLM group, I cannot go into the alleged scam issue. I know that most of the premine has been distributed to LEO members and that we as Foundation work hard to get digital currency to the masses. Later this year, we will come with a new road map and I will also be able to look into the LEOxChange a bit more detailed. Thus far, my experience is, that they are aiming to be - are are - fully compliant with KYC and AML directives. This is something most crypto-exchanges cannot say. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: o0o0 on January 15, 2017, 10:51:36 AM My personal view on trolling, scam-calling and pumping … Digital cash is an experiment with money. Due to its power to create tokens in a cryptographically secure way that ensures that it cannot be copied or forged, digital cash is fast, safe and depending on the coin: relatively private and deflationary in nature. Some are also decentral and democratic. In a free market environment, any company, institution or group of stakeholders can opt to create, promote and use disruptive technology, and if they do well, the market will determine the value of their undertaking. This means that from new start-ups, ex-bankers and scammers to genuine businesses, can give it a try. Even companies that use direct selling as their distribution strategy for products and services. As with any new initiative, there will be differences in view on how to evaluate such initiatives. Competitors will point at weaknesses, in order not to lose market share or investors. Governments will regulate, in order to be able to avoid a democratic money system outside of their control. Banks will study and learn so they will know how to protect their ways of money creation as long as possible. The establishment will obfuscate technical developments by using terminology that is hard to grasp for non-experts, or emphasize dangers, while at the same time hiding the innovative improvements that might help to deal with failing systems in the global financial and monetary areas. This said, a thread like this shows all of the above elements, it has the established posters, trolls, pumpers, real or allegedly real scammers and fair posters that act out of good faith or genuine worry. As yours truly is generally addressed as sock-puppet or rhetoric monstrum, I shall refrain from arguing about truths, as with any kind of fundamentalism or overly emotional disagreement, you cannot longer argue reasonably. Instead, I will try to bring some humor to this otherwise disturbingly poor thread as a token of good intention and this I do in the form of some (annotated) definitions in the hope we all may benefit from this, or at least have a strong emotional reaction, like fun or dislike. Fundamentalism - an ‘ism’ with no fun, too much damn, and not enough mental. Bart Ehrmann (Fundamentalism and freedom of expression and enterprise are on a tensed foot, just as people that trust LEOcoin and those that do not, may start to develop fundamentalist traits while attempting to argue.) Magic, n. - an art of converting superstition into coin. There are other arts serving the same high purpose, but the discreet lexicographer does not name them. Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary (Fiat, or trust, is the art that we are attempting to learn in crypto-world.) Crisis – a mechanism to create problems that cause circumstances beyond one’s control that again call for measures that otherwise would not have been accepted without huge protest Global financial crisis – a fear, uncertainty and doubt strategy with the goal to reorganize property Authority – the power to let others abide by your will Media – Managers of perception that sell lies in order to make their audience believe that authorities protect them (instead of parasitize on them) Trolls – persons that are sometimes similar to media workers Democracy – form of government that protects the people for as long as they have the tool to set limits to the power of the authorities Debt – that what lenders need so they can confiscate possessions without having to work for them Interest – the price for borrowing money that previously did not exist Credit – already spending the money that you still have to work for in the future @all, I will not respond on this post – so take it or leave it. Thanks for great post but troll will keep troll! But as i say its life! 👍🏼 whats the opposite of troll? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: LEOcoin Foundation on January 15, 2017, 11:31:41 AM pm from leocoin foundation for all to read. i dont believe in direct pm bs. be visible so here it is Quote what about your figureheads being past known scammers having bank accounts frozen etc. forget the other shit you posted we are questioning your peoples motives and credability. address those points. also to be fair and transparent you forgot to define zealot shills. you cant have trolls without your zealot shills like cryptoteaider16 come now get off that high horse and tell the truth or are you a fibber This may be a discussion you rather should have with those 'figureheads', and not with me. I came to the LEOcoin Foundation from the miner community. And for what it is worth, I do partially understand the aversion against a digital currency backed-up by people that are active in the direct selling industry, but otherwise do not share these views on them being scammers; otherwise I would not have chosen to advocate LEOcoin. And for the record, Cryptotraider16 is not paid by me or the Foundation, and I doubt if he is paid by anyone else. He is neither my sock-puppet nor my spokesman, but a person that I have never personally met and who happens to be the owner of a substantial sum of LEOcoin, which he acquired on the market. In a way, a zealot shill is a reversed troll, but both seem a tad extreme to me. I had to look up 'fibber' in the urban dictionary, as I am a non-native English speaker. I am not under the impression that I have never lied in my life, but I certainly do not qualify as fibber, but thanks for pointing me at a new word. As I represent the LEOcoin Foundation and not a MLM group, I cannot go into the alleged scam issue. I know that most of the premine has been distributed to LEO members and that we as Foundation work hard to get digital currency to the masses. Later this year, we will come with a new road map and I will also be able to look into the LEOxChange a bit more detailed. Thus far, my experience is, that they are aiming to be - are are - fully compliant with KYC and AML directives. This is something most crypto-exchanges cannot say. You may not belief in privacy of correspondence, but this violation of yours, by publishing something that clearly was meant private, sets you outside of civilization. And the fact, that you do this anonymous, also makes you a coward. This taken together, would let me ask - as reader on this forum - why we should take your words serious at all. Fighting as Don Quixote against your imagined windmills is your problem, but when you start to use unsound weapons, you disqualify as dialogue partner. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 15, 2017, 06:15:52 PM Foundation guy..
Care to comment on the topic ? How about your scam topic here made by some other guy in the scam section ? Your diversionary double talk crap routine is infamous LOL ..a lot of noise while saying nothing. You should teach that to your shill here.. he's quite the idiot clearly. He seems to know only 4 or 5 sentences in English. Oh and where did the 40 million go ? And why was it not in the ANN ? It said 50 was premined for the foundation but the Foundation "holds" only 10.... then there is no other mention of it on the ANN topic. Later the shill here showed up to say it was paid to the MLM ponzi members. Which is scammy if it was even true LOL Then i posted a chart showing your MLM rewards system which the shill was trying to say included payments of coins. So.. Which is it ? Where did the 40 million premine go and was it all staked for years on end ? Make another million staking ? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: mladenbabic on January 15, 2017, 07:54:52 PM Spoetnik my troll kid!
You understand how POS work? We have many coin for staking, what is your problem? Because you are poor? Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: PikachuYou on January 15, 2017, 08:50:37 PM Spoetnik my troll kid! You understand how POS work? We have many coin for staking, what is your problem? Because you are poor? The problem lies in the fact that you paki bastards can barely string 2 coherent sentences in English and you are then pretending to be supported by the British government to con gullible people to buy into your little scammy scheme. I will now leave the floor for Spoetnik to rip you a new one, sock puppet account of cryptotraider16. :-* Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: o0o0 on January 15, 2017, 09:36:46 PM pm from leocoin foundation for all to read. i dont believe in direct pm bs. be visible so here it is Quote what about your figureheads being past known scammers having bank accounts frozen etc. forget the other shit you posted we are questioning your peoples motives and credability. address those points. also to be fair and transparent you forgot to define zealot shills. you cant have trolls without your zealot shills like cryptoteaider16 come now get off that high horse and tell the truth or are you a fibber This may be a discussion you rather should have with those 'figureheads', and not with me. I came to the LEOcoin Foundation from the miner community. And for what it is worth, I do partially understand the aversion against a digital currency backed-up by people that are active in the direct selling industry, but otherwise do not share these views on them being scammers; otherwise I would not have chosen to advocate LEOcoin. And for the record, Cryptotraider16 is not paid by me or the Foundation, and I doubt if he is paid by anyone else. He is neither my sock-puppet nor my spokesman, but a person that I have never personally met and who happens to be the owner of a substantial sum of LEOcoin, which he acquired on the market. In a way, a zealot shill is a reversed troll, but both seem a tad extreme to me. I had to look up 'fibber' in the urban dictionary, as I am a non-native English speaker. I am not under the impression that I have never lied in my life, but I certainly do not qualify as fibber, but thanks for pointing me at a new word. As I represent the LEOcoin Foundation and not a MLM group, I cannot go into the alleged scam issue. I know that most of the premine has been distributed to LEO members and that we as Foundation work hard to get digital currency to the masses. Later this year, we will come with a new road map and I will also be able to look into the LEOxChange a bit more detailed. Thus far, my experience is, that they are aiming to be - are are - fully compliant with KYC and AML directives. This is something most crypto-exchanges cannot say. You may not belief in privacy of correspondence, but this violation of yours, by publishing something that clearly was meant private, sets you outside of civilization. And the fact, that you do this anonymous, also makes you a coward. This taken together, would let me ask - as reader on this forum - why we should take your words serious at all. Fighting as Don Quixote against your imagined windmills is your problem, but when you start to use unsound weapons, you disqualify as dialogue partner. i signed no prior nda nor have any dealings with you. i wouldnt say coward unless you meant who you are is 100% available info and not just leocoin foundation. hiding with messages is the tools of cowards and scams. addressing questions openly legitimises or helps to for projects. you want people to trust you then answer all questions. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 15, 2017, 11:28:36 PM Spoetnik my troll kid! You understand how POS work? We have many coin for staking, what is your problem? Because you are poor? Poor ? You say that like it's a bad thing. Frankly i don't care. I do not perceive being poor as some sort of sin. What it shows is that i do not covet money highly enough to bend over backwards to attain it. Or to use unfair methods to do so. Getting lots of money fairly requires a HUGE amount of work.. or corruption etc. Take for example a doctor who may get $200,000 a year where i live.. He *earned it* because he busted his god damn ass in school to do it ! Me ? I never had the desire to push. Maybe it shows in my early days i had a lack of direction. I thought of getting a higher education but could never decide on what field. I once got a student loan for a University Psychology thing which would have been many many years of schooling but i knew i was not going to stick with it long term so i never signed the documents. But i was approved.. Bottom Line: You just played the cliche'd shitcoin scam defense retort #21 The "You're jealous of my scam coin ROI'z" defense. No.. i am not jealous of scammers using fraud to scam others of money. Nor am i jealous of a guy running down the street knocking out old lady's for their pension checks. EDIT: To explain further.. When i mentioned the LEO coin dev guy here early was infamous for posting long winded crap here. What i was actually referring to was.. When he was confronted with proof showing the dev + foundation and their shill's ALL claiming.. that LEOcoin had the world BEST ANON technology of any crypto-currency.. When in fact it had NONE what so ever. THAT... is a LIE The dev tried to post rants sort of causing diversions and trying to bend the truth to get out of being caught lying. This claim was posted in their phone app and on the official coin website and i found a google hit with a Youtube link from a legendary scene shill posting it in his video i screen capped earlier here. This coin is about fraudulent deceitful lies. They have been caught red-handed period /. http://i65.tinypic.com/2cfbcyq.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/16ablus.jpg Fraud. http://behindmlm.com/companies/leo-review-personal-development-dvds-recruitment/ (MLM) Multi level marketing scam. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: arielbit on January 20, 2017, 01:07:30 AM Spoetnik my troll kid! You understand how POS work? We have many coin for staking, what is your problem? Because you are poor? do you know that a lot/majority of your LEOcoin MLM agents are poor trying to recruit another poor person to their MLM scheme? a lot of them are also from another MLM scams hopping from one MLM scams to other MLM scams. these scamming poor people cannibalize each other to get to a higher position in the MLM pyramid. these MLM scams including LEOcoin are thriving/capitalizing in poor countries because a lot of poor people are driven by poverty to do anything for fiat..i've seen it because i met some of your poor LEOcoin agents you can see leocoin is only a copy/paste coin with the touch of MLM scam sauce. you are using the "poor" word loosely, LEOcoin founders and top investors are living off, getting rich on top of your army of poor LEOcoin agents. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Spoetnik on January 20, 2017, 02:30:22 AM Agreed.
I also think they already have 1 or more OTHER scams setup too. I am seeing more MLM style coins popping up. Their leaders are making the poor lackies do their shilling while the top guys are already making new scams. What i find funny is no one said a word about the linked services in that shill's video. Or the guy himself. He has many videos and they are promoting all kinds of shit. Funny Amanda gets torn a new asshole here by cryptohunter etc but he has fuck all to say about any NON-DASH bullshit scammers. Pickin' & choosing your battles huh guys ? EDIT: I tried to go get the link to the screencap above from Youtube but i can't find the link *yet. I posted it before but i don't know where LOL So i did a Google Image search with "Youtube Leocoin" https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=Youtube+Leocoin&safe=off&tbm=isch&uss=1&tbs=imgo:1 And i seen one that caught my interest of many.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkfTXmQbvOo The preview says.. Quote How do we Shopping with LEOcoin In English - YouTube http://i67.tinypic.com/2w685xc.jpg And has a picture of ? I think i found our infamous shill LOL ;D :D ..schoolin' people on English ahhahah Guess who the guy is on the right guys ? :o But when clicking on the original link it says.. Quote This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated. Sorry about that. Hmm i wonder why ? EDIT2: Hmm i see they have 4 android app's on Google Play now to go with their LEO Cell Phone "LFON" https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=LEO+IT+Solutions Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: tmfp on January 20, 2017, 08:54:33 AM do you know that a lot/majority of your LEOcoin MLM agents are poor trying to recruit another poor person to their MLM scheme? They don't care, they have the sociopathic mentality of drug dealers, everything is acceptable if it means profit for #1. Title: Re: [NEWS] LEOcoin MLM Ponzi Fraud Investigation Post by: Bagwell on April 23, 2017, 12:39:37 PM Scamers:
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