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Title: Dash still a thing?
Post by: ridery99 on December 31, 2016, 09:08:49 PM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: bathrobehero on December 31, 2016, 09:12:14 PM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing?

What a nice juxtaposition.

If you're contemplating on investing in a coin you're surprised still exist, then maybe it's not a good idea (for you).

Anyway, HNY.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: TaoOfSaatoshi on December 31, 2016, 09:13:55 PM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?
Dash is the future Internet Of Money. It features instant transactions, optional privacy, incentivized full nodes, and decentralized governance and funding.

Join us on the Dash Nation Slack to get up to speed:

http://dash-nation-invite.herokuapp.com  


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: UGMZ on December 31, 2016, 09:28:51 PM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?
Dash is the future Internet Of Money. It features instant transactions, optional privacy, incentivized full nodes, and decentralized governance and funding.

Join us on the Dash Nation Slack to get up to speed:

http://dash-nation-invite.herokuapp.com  

I joined up :)


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: TaoOfSaatoshi on December 31, 2016, 09:40:44 PM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?
Dash is the future Internet Of Money. It features instant transactions, optional privacy, incentivized full nodes, and decentralized governance and funding.

Join us on the Dash Nation Slack to get up to speed:

http://dash-nation-invite.herokuapp.com  

I joined up :)
Great! I'll see you there. Don't hesitate to ask any questions.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 31, 2016, 09:50:01 PM
Still a thing, but its price has been kind of beaten down as of late--at least in terms of bitcoin.  In terms of dollar value, it's around what, $11?  Not too bad.  Don't know if it's the 'internet of money', but I don't think it's a bad choice if you're in the market for altcoins.  The confirmation times are definitely fast, which makes it appealing to me.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on December 31, 2016, 09:52:08 PM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?

I'm not sure, Dash only trippled in price and quadrupled in marketcap in 2016.

link : http://www.coindesk.com/not-just-bitcoin-the-top-7-cryptocurrencies-all-gained-in-2016/

and there just doesn't seem much new tech or exciting news besides :

Dash's First BitPay-Like Service Just Launched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE9vH5TCN90&list=PLiFMZOlhgsYJPIiG0bjT1_SuT5h7NqPCC&index=4  

Dash Evolution Preview -- A Glimpse at the Future of Payments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J4m04Tkfb4&index=8&list=PLiFMZOlhgsYJPIiG0bjT1_SuT5h7NqPCC

Evolution's Marketplace, Masternode Shares, & DAPI: Evan Duffield Expounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7T-a2xm5c0&index=7&list=PLiFMZOlhgsYJPIiG0bjT1_SuT5h7NqPCC&t=252s

Upcoming Wall of Coins Integration
https://www.dashcentral.org/p/bsdev-wocoins-201611

And i'm sure that the upcoming update to v12.1 in January 2017, Dash presence at the North America Bitcoin Conference in January 2017 and the launch of Dash new website (have a preview here : http://www-test.dash.org/)
will all be pretty meaningless.

and yes, that is all sarcasme from my side ..

If you really want information about Dash, just visit us here : https://www.dash.org/forum/topic/news/
or check out these episodes of Amanda : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiFMZOlhgsYJPIiG0bjT1_SuT5h7NqPCC



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on December 31, 2016, 11:15:18 PM
still a scam Investing in this with out researching its past is not advisable.

Here refresh yourself with the facts. Idiotic as they may seem to an ardent shill and scam enabler they remain facts

Here let me try again. Read it. You are saying simply because you have no 100% specific numbers it can't have happened Smiley okay

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4589219#msg4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4591407#msg4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4592827#msg4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593601#msg4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4593987#msg4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4594096#msg4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4595573#msg4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.


SCAM = unfair and dishonest scheme = dash


I know you're Taoway the original poster who highlighted the xcoin dark scam and held back this project more than any one else on this board can have claimed to. Stop trying to redeem yourself because it is not working. I will now be commenting on the old dash scam PROOF threads every time I see you and qwizzie spamming this board. I will ensure you are causing more damage to dash than you done before.

I feel pitty only for that other long haired victim you've scammed at your workplace to put his hard earned cash into this scam. Shame on you TAO


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: UGMZ on December 31, 2016, 11:22:06 PM
While I am unable to comment on the above post as I am new to dash (literately just got into it few hours ago)

I have been over to there community and they seem to have a strong backing and good documentation regarding dash.

I will make my own mind up in time by getting involved and seeing for myself how they operate.

But to be honest there projects look good and the tech aspect also looks to be sound but I suppose only time will tell.

One final note, Things change, go through bad times, I wonder if what you post was at early stages of dash and has since been changed.

Thanks for the additional post though I will have a read at it.

UGMZ


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on December 31, 2016, 11:29:57 PM
type into the search box

darkcoin scam

xcoin scam

dash scam

even just scam actually


You willl find all you need to know about this project.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

this thread actually illustrates

1. one of the devs admitting to mining 120,000 dash coins in the first few hours

2. evans the core developer offering a 2000 000 dash coin airdrop to the board for free since the scam was so huge and he sought to repair the damage.


There is no greater proof needed that the devs were ready at launch with a ton of amazon instances whilst not releasing without a windows wallet thus preventing any competition from windows miners.

They mined up a HUGE % of the total minting then slashed the minting further to magnify their instamined scam coins. Then developed a masternode system that put them at the top of the ponzi heap.

Do you own research don't take my word for it the forum is laden with black and white evidence for the scam coin that is dash.

Just one dev in a few hours mined up 120,000 of these coins whilst preventing the vast majority of the board from mining and now they will sell those too you for 10 bucks a pop or greater.

What are you waiting for?

You can guess how much evans and the other insiders took out.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on December 31, 2016, 11:34:17 PM
While I am unable to comment on the above post as I am new to dash (literately just got into it few hours ago)

I have been over to there community and they seem to have a strong backing and good documentation regarding dash.

I will make my own mind up in time by getting involved and seeing for myself how they operate.

But to be honest there projects look good and the tech aspect also looks to be sound but I suppose only time will tell.

One final note, Things change, go through bad times, I wonder if what you post was at early stages of dash and has since been changed.

Thanks for the additional post though I will have a read at it.

UGMZ

Here is some objective information about Dash early days and the instamine that took place back then.

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Just ignore cryptohunter who is a well known troll, which you can tell by looking at his posting history.

Welcome to Dash



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: UGMZ on December 31, 2016, 11:46:02 PM
Thank you @qwizzie

From what I see all looks good!

Don't worry I know a troll when i see one :)

Take care! hope to speak to you in the community in the new year!



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: larryfromjapan on December 31, 2016, 11:46:45 PM
Dash keeps growing. The market speaks for itself.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: TaoOfSaatoshi on January 01, 2017, 12:41:16 AM
Thank you @qwizzie

From what I see all looks good!

Don't worry I know a troll when i see one :)

Take care! hope to speak to you in the community in the new year!


The force is strong with this one... Happy New Year!


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 01, 2017, 01:00:29 AM
While I am unable to comment on the above post as I am new to dash (literately just got into it few hours ago)

I have been over to there community and they seem to have a strong backing and good documentation regarding dash.

I will make my own mind up in time by getting involved and seeing for myself how they operate.

But to be honest there projects look good and the tech aspect also looks to be sound but I suppose only time will tell.

One final note, Things change, go through bad times, I wonder if what you post was at early stages of dash and has since been changed.

Thanks for the additional post though I will have a read at it.

UGMZ

Anyone here is a troll who presents Facts Uncovering Deception.

If you want to be a troll simply find some facts about the xcoin dashcoin launch. Make sure they are backed by evidence and present them. Then you get to be a troll too.

Here is some objective information about Dash early days and the instamine that took place back then.

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Just ignore cryptohunter who is a well known troll, which you can tell by looking at his posting history.

Welcome to Dash




Ha yes dont read or search on this board for accurate factual accounts of this scam .... rather go to the dash website and read their excuses.

Dont worry I will save you the time. I will post some accurate reading material here for you to digest.

Yes you can see I'm the biased one Taoway and qwizzie are totally objective they are not famous dash scam spammers and promoters.

Use the search function on this board.

They are scam pumpers and protectors.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 01, 2017, 01:16:40 AM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?

If you have been here at bitcointalk long enough you will realize and know that Dash is only a scam. There was a ninja premine in the beginning. That alone should tell you the real motive of the founder of this project.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: TaoOfSaatoshi on January 01, 2017, 04:39:00 AM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?

If you have been here at bitcointalk long enough you will realize and know that Dash is only a scam. There was a ninja premine in the beginning. That alone should tell you the real motive of the founder of this project.
Scam, scam, scam. You remind me of my favorite Allen Iverson video.

"We talkin' about practice. We talkin' about practice, man. Not the game, not the game, we talkin' about practice." (https://youtu.be/eGDBR2L5kzI)

Just because you say something over and over again like a mantra doesn't make it true. Dash is far from a scam, it's a serious project with great technology and the capacity for great things, up to and including usurping Bitcoin's position. Just check out the Dash Nation Progress thread to realize the things Dash is up to.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: densuj on January 01, 2017, 04:54:49 AM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?
I think yes dashcoin is still worth for making investing into it, at least for short term strategy is like trading altcoins with dashcoin. The marketcap of dashcoin is enough large check on here https://coinmarketcap.com
I don't believe in new technology in digital coins and i think dashcoin is not new technology.
Dashcoin is old coin and it can be survive on markets and comunity.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 01, 2017, 09:40:15 AM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?

If you have been here at bitcointalk long enough you will realize and know that Dash is only a scam. There was a ninja premine in the beginning. That alone should tell you the real motive of the founder of this project.
Scam, scam, scam. You remind me of my favorite Allen Iverson video.

"We talkin' about practice. We talkin' about practice, man. Not the game, not the game, we talkin' about practice." (https://youtu.be/eGDBR2L5kzI)

Just because you say something over and over again like a mantra doesn't make it true. Dash is far from a scam, it's a serious project with great technology and the capacity for great things, up to and including usurping Bitcoin's position. Just check out the Dash Nation Progress thread to realize the things Dash is up to.

Just because it's been proven time and time again with even one of the actual devs admitting he mined 120 000 dash in a few hours in the captive instamine whilst anyone that was not a dash insider was left unable to mine.

Here let me compile the list of threads proving evidence dash is a scam coin...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 01, 2017, 09:54:52 AM
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
- Marcus Aurelius

And everything that comes from a troll is a twisted sick opinion that is as close to the truth as
Earth is to Neptune.
- qwizzie


  


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: generalizethis on January 01, 2017, 10:04:24 AM
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
- Marcus Aurelius

And everything that comes from a troll is a twisted sick opinion that is as close to the truth as
Earth is to Neptune.
- qwizzie


  

"That's just like your opinion man"
--The Dude

If you can't trust dash's blockchain to show that indeed 2million coins were mined in the first 24hours, then you can't trust dash's blockchain.
--quoting yourself is redundant


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 01, 2017, 10:46:58 AM
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
- Marcus Aurelius

And everything that comes from a troll is a twisted sick opinion that is as close to the truth as
Earth is to Neptune.
- qwizzie


  

"That's just like your opinion man"
--The Dude

If you can't trust dash's blockchain to show that indeed 2million coins were mined in the first 24hours, then you can't trust dash's blockchain.
--quoting yourself is redundant

Let me once again correct this as you seem rather fixated on that nice round 2million coins number. Its actually 1.9million that were instamined
in the first 24 hours, which is perfectly viewable in Dash's blockchain and which has never been denied by either Dash Dev Team or the Dash community.
What we are denying is that this instamine was created with malicious intent.

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Question : how much does Satoshi have with regards to early mining Bticoin, 1 million BTC ? 1.5 million BTC ? Does that Bitcoin instamine history in any way
influenced Bitcoin's adaption ? Looking at Bitcoin's price today and its price history, i would say no.
    


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: noise2 on January 01, 2017, 10:50:53 AM
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
- Marcus Aurelius

And everything that comes from a troll is a twisted sick opinion that is as close to the truth as
Earth is to Neptune.
- qwizzie


  

"That's just like your opinion man"
--The Dude

If you can't trust dash's blockchain to show that indeed 2million coins were mined in the first 24hours, then you can't trust dash's blockchain.
--quoting yourself is redundant

Let me once again correct this as you seem rather fixated on that nice round 2million coins number. Its actually 1.9million that were instamined
in the first 24 hours, which is perfectly viewable in Dash's blockchain and which has never been denied by either Dash Dev Team or the Dash community.
What we are denying is that this instamine was created with malicious intent.

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118


    

Facepalm.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: toknormal on January 01, 2017, 10:55:05 AM

Dash has 1 thing in particular going for it that is more or less unique and which unlocks most of its other unique features - an articulated protocol.

In other words the network can "talk to itself' as well as to client applications.

As far as its current feature set goes, this has led to a very powerful monetary characteristic - greatly enhanced fungibility without ANY loss of blockchain transparency. All users see exactly the same blockchain, regardless of whether they're a keyholder or not, just as with bitcoin. But unlike bitcoin the coin supply is continually kept fungible pro-actively rather than reactively which optimises the anonymity of blockchain movements.

This approach will deliver some awsome new network characteristics going into its next release phase (2017/18) by virtue of the fact that it's going to support a decentralised API which will be levered to create a new standard of ease of use and accessibility for crypto hitherto unheard of.

Those are its development objectives currently (and also why it gets so much FUD from competing interests since the articulated protocol is the one thing they can never replicate so they are forced to bang on about "instamines" instead  ;) )


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 01, 2017, 11:20:47 AM

Dash has 1 thing in particular going for it that is more or less unique and which unlocks most of its other unique features - an articulated protocol.

In other words the network can "talk to itself' as well as to client applications.

As far as its current feature set goes, this has led to a very powerful monetary characteristic - greatly enhanced fungibility without ANY loss of blockchain transparency. All users see exactly the same blockchain, regardless of whether they're a keyholder or not, just as with bitcoin, but unlike bitcoin the coin supply is continually kept fungible pro-actively rather than reactively.

This approach will deliver some awsome new network characteristics going into its next release phase (2017/18) by virtue of the fact that it's going to support a decentralised API which will be levered to create a new standard of ease of use and accessibility for crypto hitherto unheard of.

Those are its development objectives currently (and also why it gets so much FUD from competing interests since the articulated protocol is the one thing they can never replicate so they are forced to bang on about "instamines" instead  ;) )


Let's make more excuses for the instamine, the slashing of the minting for further self enrichment and then the masternode ponzi self enriching.

Even if it has features that were standing it over and above other coins (it does not) that means you're not allowed to state proven facts about the instamine scam, the slashing of the minting scam and then the masternode ponzi scam.

The only people trying to protect dash are known DASH holders.

Everyone else just having review the huge amount of black and white evidence detailing the scam just is kind of like ... yeah it's a scam.

FUD to a dasher is Facts Uncovering Deception

Troll to a dasher is stating observable factual events that detail the scam that it is.

Anyone can spread fud and become a troll at the same time. Just simply research dash's history as it really happened via the block explorer , the launch thread, the stated 120 000 instamine by one of the devs he full admits too in the first few hours, the admission of evans that a 2 000 000 coin airdrop to the board could help balance the scam instamine.

Yeah so just research the proven facts regarding dash history. Post or enquire about them here and you can be called a troll and fud spreader too.

Just keep pushing the provable factual events that happened to them over and over and wait for the excuses

1. all accidental
2. does not matter cos it's novel tech but when faced with questions for actual known skilled devs evans goes limp
3. you are just butthurt you cant be in on the scam
4. never happened
5. troll and fudder for mentioning it
6. there are other scams on this board so you cant say dash is a scam
7. personal reasons that prove you can not present factual observable events and have them take seriously by people who could review them for themselves.
8. illogical excuses you can't actually understand because it is pure contrived nonsense.
9. nobody cares about this scam because it happened ages ago and we have got away with it now.
10. stop spamming the truth about our scam because we need the board space to spam promote it to noobs and take their btc.

myriads of other excuses but you can find them all for yourself by searching the board.

the funniest part is that some of the biggest protectors and defenders of this scam were the first to complain on the thread that it was being instamined and they were pissed off about it. Later though they got to mine enough to change their minds about it.

Evan offered a 2 000 000 dash coin air drop but later withdrew his offer because

it was unfair to piss off dash whales when only a tiny minority wanted the air drop conducted.

How about we revisit this now ... really only a small minority want a share of a $20, 000 000 dollar air drop. Sure it will sink to zero before most can cash out but may rebuilding it from the ashes is the only way.

How about we take the airdrop poll all over again on this board? Imagine only a tiny minority want some free money they were scammed out of in the first place. Doesn't sound right does it?



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: toknormal on January 01, 2017, 11:28:53 AM

By the way - Dash also has a unique "reserve market" which further enhances its monetary properties by paying a return on holdings. The beauty of this is that the holdings perform a complimentary network function by collateralising the active "nodes" while at the same time supporting a monetary function (setting a base rate for interest on lending).

This has led to stability and growth over the long term, both in marketcap and also network strength. (See more info here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg12549331#msg12549331)).


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 01, 2017, 12:36:25 PM

explains how the ponzi works in detail


shame on you for still promoting this scam and trying to entice noobs into making you and other dash whales more wealthy and absorbing BTC away from other valuable honest alt coin projects.



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 01, 2017, 12:40:28 PM
Is it me or is cryptohunter behaving more and more like AdamWhite ?
Adam, is that you ?  :o


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 01, 2017, 01:02:23 PM
Is it me or is cryptohunter behaving more and more like AdamWhite ?
Adam, is that you ?  :o

Ha again what does that matter if I am the queen of england or puss in boots , adam white, or your alter ego with a conscience . This is irrelevant distraction tactics. I am presenting observable factual events that anyone can research.

Does not matter if I am the devil.

Here have another read of the details of the scam you promote daily.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: Hueristic on January 01, 2017, 03:15:24 PM
Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
- Marcus Aurelius

And everything that comes from a troll is a twisted sick opinion that is as close to the truth as
Earth is to Neptune.
- qwizzie


  

Bullshit, I was one of those trying to mine with the non functional wallet evan provided. For entire day he kept saying he was working on it and then he told us all he was going to sleep and relaunch (YET again!) when he woke up the next day and he never relaunched instead he had been mining his instamine the entire time with along with a hidden pool that gave him a bribe of their mine to not relaunch.

He then changed the code to massively lower the block reward and released a working Win wallet. With the new block reward I was able to mine ONE coin in a day. He Fucked us and the only ones that support DRK were in on the scam or were fools that bought coins and need to protect their investment.

Keep sticking to your lies, but we were there and we don't forget.

Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.
- Marcus Aurelius

And everything that comes from a troll is a twisted sick opinion that is as close to the truth as
Earth is to Neptune.
- qwizzie


  

"That's just like your opinion man"
--The Dude

If you can't trust dash's blockchain to show that indeed 2million coins were mined in the first 24hours, then you can't trust dash's blockchain.
--quoting yourself is redundant

Let me once again correct this as you seem rather fixated on that nice round 2million coins number. Its actually 1.9million that were instamined
in the first 24 hours, which is perfectly viewable in Dash's blockchain and which has never been denied by either Dash Dev Team or the Dash community.
What we are denying is that this instamine was created with malicious intent.

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Question : how much does Satoshi have with regards to early mining Bticoin, 1 million BTC ? 1.5 million BTC ? Does that Bitcoin instamine history in any way
influenced Bitcoin's adaption ? Looking at Bitcoin's price today and its price history, i would say no.
    

Yeah right, no malicious intent my ass, then explain why he lowered the Block reward to make that massive instamine multiple times what is was really worth?  And explain why he ignored all of use that were there the next day to start the relaunch??

Don't bother your explanations are all lies anyway. Keep trying to rewrite history all it does is tell those that don't know the real SCAM that DRK is. Change the name however many times you want but DRK will never be acceptable and will always be called out on it's SCAM.

X-coin/DRK/Dash instamine graph.

https://media-api.atlassian.io/file/0bedf194-4bc5-4117-9842-4a5d95e4aa5c/binary?token=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiI1YTU2ODNlNi03NDA0LTQzYTktYTc4YS1iMDM5ZWU3NTM2YmMiLCJhY2Nlc3MiOnsidXJuOmZpbGVzdG9yZTpmaWxlOjBiZWRmMTk0LTRiYzUtNDExNy05ODQyLTRhNWQ5NWU0YWE1YyI6WyJyZWFkIl19LCJleHAiOjE0ODMyODQ3MDUsIm5iZiI6MTQ4MzI4NDA0NX0.IKhftaZUWndFOOZdBaWDRgMJ1JqrVILWAYUyFfpke1s&client=5a5683e6-7404-43a9-a78a-b039ee7536bc&name=Darkcoin%20distribution%20chart.png&max-age=480

A very good synopsis:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 01, 2017, 04:21:13 PM
Looking at some of these responses i would say that OP has his answer .. Dash is pretty much still a thing.
Sure some people still get overly emotional on it (they probly dumped their Dash in the early days because
they thought it was finished) and for some trolls Dash is the most important thing of their life to worry about
so they make Dash hate threads in the altcoin discussion section or bump old ones.

Oh well, we will survive people not liking Dash and we will grow in 2017, both in price and marketcap.

When I look into the future, it's so bright it burns my eyes.
- Oprah Winfrey

  


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: Hueristic on January 01, 2017, 04:28:56 PM
Looking at some of these responses i would say that OP has his answer .. Dash is pretty much still a thing.
Sure some people still get overly emotional on it (they probly dumped their Dash in the early days because
they thought it was finished) and for some trolls Dash is the most important thing of their life to worry about
so they make Dash hate threads in the altcoin discussion section or bump old ones.

Oh well, we will survive people not liking Dash and we will grow in 2017, both in price and marketcap.
  

I think you need to explain that chart away for anyone to even consider investing in DASH. Even if it was the best coded perfect coin then I couldn't get past that and the addition of a ponzie scheme with the masternodes that only the premine could afford is a non starter.

Calling people trolls because they point out the truth is stupid as it just proves you are nothing more than a shill arguing his bag.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 01, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
Looking at some of these responses i would say that OP has his answer .. Dash is pretty much still a thing.
Sure some people still get overly emotional on it (they probly dumped their Dash in the early days because
they thought it was finished) and for some trolls Dash is the most important thing of their life to worry about
so they make Dash hate threads in the altcoin discussion section or bump old ones.

Oh well, we will survive people not liking Dash and we will grow in 2017, both in price and marketcap.
  

I think you need to explain that chart away for anyone to even consider investing in DASH. Even if it was the best coded perfect coin then I couldn't get past that and the addition of a ponzie scheme with the masternodes that only the premine could afford is a non starter.

Calling people trolls because they point out the truth is stupid as it just proves you are nothing more than a shill arguing his bag.

Nope i'm only calling cryptohunter and icey a troll because they do not point out the truth, they just use a bunch of lies and fud.
Also they use trolling techniques, like posting day in day out in our Dash ANN forum. Thats is trolling, so that makes them trolls.  

I'm perfectly fine to agree to disagree with people in this forum but i truly and honestly despise trolls.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: toknormal on January 01, 2017, 04:42:44 PM

3 year long hump

I'm sure you'll get over it eventually.

If you were there at the start (I wasn't) you should be richer than most Dash holders of today - thanks to the very person you're trying malign no less, instamine or no instamine.

Some of your contemporaries are - they just managed to keep their toys in the pram  :D


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: Hueristic on January 01, 2017, 04:52:33 PM
Looking at some of these responses i would say that OP has his answer .. Dash is pretty much still a thing.
Sure some people still get overly emotional on it (they probly dumped their Dash in the early days because
they thought it was finished) and for some trolls Dash is the most important thing of their life to worry about
so they make Dash hate threads in the altcoin discussion section or bump old ones.

Oh well, we will survive people not liking Dash and we will grow in 2017, both in price and marketcap.
  

I think you need to explain that chart away for anyone to even consider investing in DASH. Even if it was the best coded perfect coin then I couldn't get past that and the addition of a ponzie scheme with the masternodes that only the premine could afford is a non starter.

Calling people trolls because they point out the truth is stupid as it just proves you are nothing more than a shill arguing his bag.

Nope i'm only calling cryptohunter and icey a troll because they do not point out the truth, they just use a bunch of lies and fud.
Also they use trolling techniques, like posting day in day out in our Dash ANN forum. Thats is trolling, so that makes them trolls.  

I'm perfectly fine to agree to disagree with people in this forum but i truly and honestly despise trolls.

IC, saw it as a blanket statement. :)


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: Amoson on January 01, 2017, 05:07:44 PM
I still believe in the dash currency. the price is still stable.
It features instant transactions, optional privacy, incentivized full nodes, and decentralized governance and funding.
That is the reason why the big investors are behind this coin.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: noise2 on January 01, 2017, 05:53:38 PM
Looking at some of these responses i would say that OP has his answer .. Dash is pretty much still a thing.
Sure some people still get overly emotional on it (they probly dumped their Dash in the early days because
they thought it was finished) and for some trolls Dash is the most important thing of their life to worry about
so they make Dash hate threads in the altcoin discussion section or bump old ones.

Oh well, we will survive people not liking Dash and we will grow in 2017, both in price and marketcap.

When I look into the future, it's so bright it burns my eyes.
- Oprah Winfrey

  

You're fucking hilarious. The Dash scam is still going on you're right about that.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 01, 2017, 07:44:48 PM
Looking at some of these responses i would say that OP has his answer .. Dash is pretty much still a thing.
Sure some people still get overly emotional on it (they probly dumped their Dash in the early days because
they thought it was finished) and for some trolls Dash is the most important thing of their life to worry about
so they make Dash hate threads in the altcoin discussion section or bump old ones.

Oh well, we will survive people not liking Dash and we will grow in 2017, both in price and marketcap.
  

I think you need to explain that chart away for anyone to even consider investing in DASH. Even if it was the best coded perfect coin then I couldn't get past that and the addition of a ponzie scheme with the masternodes that only the premine could afford is a non starter.

Calling people trolls because they point out the truth is stupid as it just proves you are nothing more than a shill arguing his bag.

Nope i'm only calling cryptohunter and icey a troll because they do not point out the truth, they just use a bunch of lies and fud.
Also they use trolling techniques, like posting day in day out in our Dash ANN forum. Thats is trolling, so that makes them trolls.  

I'm perfectly fine to agree to disagree with people in this forum but i truly and honestly despise trolls.

There are no lies. The truth we present is there in black and white. I encourage people to do their own research.

Qwizzie and tao are shills they are literally zealots of dash

these threads if you read them all with give you a complete understanding of dash. Everyone outside of the dash scam nation acknowledges it was and is a scam. Only the dashers call it fud and anyone mentioning the factual observable events that have taken place are trolls.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0


They scream lies, and troll. Fud and haters. However they care not to refute the details of the scam.

They only seek to excuse and justify these events. They say yes it all happened but ...x y z excuses.

Remember 1 dev. Just one of the dev team stated he put 100 amazon instances on mining it at launch (the first seconds it was posted and raped the chain instantly for just a few hours) and got 120 000 dash. That is over $1.2 million dollars at todays value.

That is just 1 dev he says many others were doing the same. How many amazon instances did Evans himself have on it?

I mean he offered a 2 000 000 coin air drop to the board to help "balance things out"

Evans in not actually the worst of dash, he has half a brain and realises his creation will NEVER shake off the scam label until he balances the captive instamine where most of the board were prevented from mining whilst he and other devs pulled in 500 coin blocks ...several a second at some points.

Do believe me then do your own research. Just search out the events that took place. Do not fall for the excuses.

It's that simple, they mined all the coins up they could then slashed the minting by 75% roughly speaking so that nobody else could ever mine up anywhere near the coins they had already mined. They guaranteed they would hold all the coins. Then masternodes are the mega ponzi to guarantee the dash wealthy stay wealthy.

Remember though they can never get away with it because it's all documented here and too many people know about it.

Qwizzie and tao are simply a waste of space and damaging to their own community by trying to deny it and call anyone mentioning it a troll and fud spreader.

FUD to dash is Facts Uncovering Deception.

Let them excuse this scam how they want it will not change the observable events which anyone can research and find out about.



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: TaoOfSaatoshi on January 01, 2017, 09:50:51 PM
Looking at some of these responses i would say that OP has his answer .. Dash is pretty much still a thing.
Sure some people still get overly emotional on it (they probly dumped their Dash in the early days because
they thought it was finished) and for some trolls Dash is the most important thing of their life to worry about
so they make Dash hate threads in the altcoin discussion section or bump old ones.

Oh well, we will survive people not liking Dash and we will grow in 2017, both in price and marketcap.
  

I think you need to explain that chart away for anyone to even consider investing in DASH. Even if it was the best coded perfect coin then I couldn't get past that and the addition of a ponzie scheme with the masternodes that only the premine could afford is a non starter.

Calling people trolls because they point out the truth is stupid as it just proves you are nothing more than a shill arguing his bag.

Nope i'm only calling cryptohunter and icey a troll because they do not point out the truth, they just use a bunch of lies and fud.
Also they use trolling techniques, like posting day in day out in our Dash ANN forum. Thats is trolling, so that makes them trolls.  

I'm perfectly fine to agree to disagree with people in this forum but i truly and honestly despise trolls.

There are no lies. The truth we present is there in black and white. I encourage people to do their own research.

Qwizzie and tao are shills they are literally zealots of dash

these threads if you read them all with give you a complete understanding of dash. Everyone outside of the dash scam nation acknowledges it was and is a scam. Only the dashers call it fud and anyone mentioning the factual observable events that have taken place are trolls.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559028.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=995710.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999084.0


They scream lies, and troll. Fud and haters. However they care not to refute the details of the scam.

They only seek to excuse and justify these events. They say yes it all happened but ...x y z excuses.

Remember 1 dev. Just one of the dev team stated he put 100 amazon instances on mining it at launch (the first seconds it was posted and raped the chain instantly for just a few hours) and got 120 000 dash. That is over $1.2 million dollars at todays value.

That is just 1 dev he says many others were doing the same. How many amazon instances did Evans himself have on it?

I mean he offered a 2 000 000 coin air drop to the board to help "balance things out"

Evans in not actually the worst of dash, he has half a brain and realises his creation will NEVER shake off the scam label until he balances the captive instamine where most of the board were prevented from mining whilst he and other devs pulled in 500 coin blocks ...several a second at some points.

Do believe me then do your own research. Just search out the events that took place. Do not fall for the excuses.

It's that simple, they mined all the coins up they could then slashed the minting by 75% roughly speaking so that nobody else could ever mine up anywhere near the coins they had already mined. They guaranteed they would hold all the coins. Then masternodes are the mega ponzi to guarantee the dash wealthy stay wealthy.

Remember though they can never get away with it because it's all documented here and too many people know about it.

Qwizzie and tao are simply a waste of space and damaging to their own community by trying to deny it and call anyone mentioning it a troll and fud spreader.

FUD to dash is Facts Uncovering Deception.

Let them excuse this scam how they want it will not change the observable events which anyone can research and find out about.


I started to type something, and then realized it wasn't worth it.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: sui_generis on January 01, 2017, 11:25:47 PM
Dash is pure nonsense. Fraudulent coin distribution, bullshit marketed as novel technology, and incompetent leadership to top it off. There are a bunch of Dash shills who are still active here, but the community is in decline. Just look at how their subreddit can't even add 100 new followers a month.

Oh, and that masternode funding system they love to shill? Dysfunctional nonsense dressed up to appear "revolutionary". Just ask them how that vending machine is going. Or any of the other big projects that have been abject failures. Sad.

I agree with cryptohunter. Almost no one outside of Dash takes the project seriously. It's well known to be a scam, and they can't wash off that taint by changing their name to that of a laundry detergent.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: aleix on January 01, 2017, 11:51:18 PM

FYI

https://www.dash.org/forum

Discussions:  7,132
Messages:  99,824
Members:  6,191


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on January 02, 2017, 12:03:02 AM
Dash is pure nonsense. Fraudulent coin distribution, bullshit marketed as novel technology, and incompetent leadership to top it off. There are a bunch of Dash shills who are still active here, but the community is in decline. Just look at how their subreddit can't even add 100 new followers a month.

Oh, and that masternode funding system they love to shill? Dysfunctional nonsense dressed up to appear "revolutionary". Just ask them how that vending machine is going. Or any of the other big projects that have been abject failures. Sad.

I agree with cryptohunter. Almost no one outside of Dash takes the project seriously. It's well known to be a scam, and they can't wash off that taint by changing their name to that of a laundry detergent.

As I predicted a year ago, the leaking of Dash's market cap into Monero's has accelerated.

That trend was obvious, since the Dash rebrand alienated loyal Darkcoin supporters like vertoe and all Dash's big projects have turned into dumpster fires.

XPOST:

Dash's "decentralized governance model" and "decentralized budget model" are proven liabilities, not assets.

The proof of that claim is the negative ROI and reputation damage done by Dash's many failed high-profile/high-budget resource allocations.

Rather than show the world how "distributed governance by blockchain" can work successfully, Dash repeatedly demonstrated the wrong way to do it.

Dash fails at basic tasks over and over again, because they become so convoluted and unaccountable.  It's like you Evan's Gate cargo cultists cannot learn from mistakes, because admitting fault would be "trolling" and "shilling for Monero."


Here in all its glory is

Dash's Litany Of Governance Failures

- aka -

2016 YEAR IN REVIEW


1) Legal work Part I - 1492 Dash - (Masternode rewards etc for IRS) https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-sept.10457/
2) Legal work Part II - 1728 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-part-ii-oct.10786/

-So much money spent, and yet we still don't have a legal opinion on how Dash supposedly avoids the registration/regulation appropriate to an investment product like Masternodes (Howey Test) and the requirement to comply with Money Services Business licensing.


3) ATM Master Compliance Program Phase 1 - 748 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-dash-atm-master-compliance-program-phase-i.10312/

-You DashHoles got scammed by your own community on this one.  They took the money and ran, and Scamassu says they've never heard of Dash.  Not to mention the very existence of Dash ATMs demonstrates Dash is not actually digital cash.


4) Marketing - Brand & Design - 350 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-marketing-brand-design.11279/

-Another fiasco.  You idiots failed to account for changes in the Dash price, then reneged on your contract with the PR firm, thus demonstrating why nobody should ever expect a firm, enforceable arrangement with anything as flaky as "muh blockchain democracy."


5) Lamassu epic failure of a project - 7327 Dash - Multiple threads on forums, slack etc asking for updates and silence for months and months!

-This is my favorite.  Ira Miller scammed the hell out of you gullible cultists and it took you months to figure that out.  See what happens when you allocate resources without skin in the game?  That's right, you get mal-allocation as scammers show up in droves to eat the free lunches provided by Evan's monetary printing press.  I hope Daniel (Minotaur) and Ira are spending their free coins on beaches/booze/babes!


6) Proton Mail Integration - countless developer hours with many meetings and travel and nothing? Saying "we did our part" and its up to them it not good enough in my books. How are we being proactive etc.

-Yet another example of DashHoles prioritizing Hope & Dreams over solid, actually useful development.  If Proton saw an advantage to using Dash (which doesn't exist because BTC's privacy is better) they would add it without artificial incentives.


7) Mycelium Integration - ditto as above?

-LOL, That's Not Going To Happen.  Again DashHoles vainly try to force the invisible hand of the market by distorting the profit motive with out of band side channel bribes.


8. Soda Machine

-So much trouble and expense just for the sake of kissing MacAffee's ass for 5 minutes.  You incompetent buffoons could barely get the thing to work; the whole idea of a full node on every soda machine is beyond ridiculous and well into the real of self-parody.  The cherry on top was the cult losing a key supporter due to the rage quit engendered by working on this over-due, over-budget dumpster fire of a project.


9.  Dash Nation

-We are sick of the Dash Spam.  Enough duplicate posts.  Enough in-post advertising.  Do you guys know what they do to spammers in Russia?


Thats 11645++ Dash gone into thin air with NOTHING to show for it


WHO WAS RUNNING THESE PROJECTS, and why was there not even questions asked internally from the Dash core team??
Why did no one ever care to keep these projects on track or accountable?

Core team keeps trying to bite off more than it can chew.

FINISH a few projects to completion with high quality is better than having many sitting there unfinished with wasted money and no momentum.

Of course the DashHoles will ignore all of this and deflect by calling me a "troll."

But they can't do that to Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-january.12561/#post-110305) and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.




Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: TaoOfSaatoshi on January 02, 2017, 03:30:59 AM
Dash is pure nonsense. Fraudulent coin distribution, bullshit marketed as novel technology, and incompetent leadership to top it off. There are a bunch of Dash shills who are still active here, but the community is in decline. Just look at how their subreddit can't even add 100 new followers a month.

Oh, and that masternode funding system they love to shill? Dysfunctional nonsense dressed up to appear "revolutionary". Just ask them how that vending machine is going. Or any of the other big projects that have been abject failures. Sad.

I agree with cryptohunter. Almost no one outside of Dash takes the project seriously. It's well known to be a scam, and they can't wash off that taint by changing their name to that of a laundry detergent.

As I predicted a year ago, the leaking of Dash's market cap into Monero's has accelerated.

That trend was obvious, since the Dash rebrand alienated loyal Darkcoin supporters like vertoe and all Dash's big projects have turned into dumpster fires.

XPOST:

Dash's "decentralized governance model" and "decentralized budget model" are proven liabilities, not assets.

The proof of that claim is the negative ROI and reputation damage done by Dash's many failed high-profile/high-budget resource allocations.

Rather than show the world how "distributed governance by blockchain" can work successfully, Dash repeatedly demonstrated the wrong way to do it.

Dash fails at basic tasks over and over again, because they become so convoluted and unaccountable.  It's like you Evan's Gate cargo cultists cannot learn from mistakes, because admitting fault would be "trolling" and "shilling for Monero."


Here in all its glory is

Dash's Litany Of Governance Failures

- aka -

2016 YEAR IN REVIEW


1) Legal work Part I - 1492 Dash - (Masternode rewards etc for IRS) https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-sept.10457/
2) Legal work Part II - 1728 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-part-ii-oct.10786/

-So much money spent, and yet we still don't have a legal opinion on how Dash supposedly avoids the registration/regulation appropriate to an investment product like Masternodes (Howey Test) and the requirement to comply with Money Services Business licensing.


3) ATM Master Compliance Program Phase 1 - 748 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-dash-atm-master-compliance-program-phase-i.10312/

-You DashHoles got scammed by your own community on this one.  They took the money and ran, and Scamassu says they've never heard of Dash.  Not to mention the very existence of Dash ATMs demonstrates Dash is not actually digital cash.


4) Marketing - Brand & Design - 350 Dash - https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-marketing-brand-design.11279/

-Another fiasco.  You idiots failed to account for changes in the Dash price, then reneged on your contract with the PR firm, thus demonstrating why nobody should ever expect a firm, enforceable arrangement with anything as flaky as "muh blockchain democracy."


5) Lamassu epic failure of a project - 7327 Dash - Multiple threads on forums, slack etc asking for updates and silence for months and months!

-This is my favorite.  Ira Miller scammed the hell out of you gullible cultists and it took you months to figure that out.  See what happens when you allocate resources without skin in the game?  That's right, you get mal-allocation as scammers show up in droves to eat the free lunches provided by Evan's monetary printing press.  I hope Daniel (Minotaur) and Ira are spending their free coins on beaches/booze/babes!


6) Proton Mail Integration - countless developer hours with many meetings and travel and nothing? Saying "we did our part" and its up to them it not good enough in my books. How are we being proactive etc.

-Yet another example of DashHoles prioritizing Hope & Dreams over solid, actually useful development.  If Proton saw an advantage to using Dash (which doesn't exist because BTC's privacy is better) they would add it without artificial incentives.


7) Mycelium Integration - ditto as above?

-LOL, That's Not Going To Happen.  Again DashHoles vainly try to force the invisible hand of the market by distorting the profit motive with out of band side channel bribes.


8. Soda Machine

-So much trouble and expense just for the sake of kissing MacAffee's ass for 5 minutes.  You incompetent buffoons could barely get the thing to work; the whole idea of a full node on every soda machine is beyond ridiculous and well into the real of self-parody.  The cherry on top was the cult losing a key supporter due to the rage quit engendered by working on this over-due, over-budget dumpster fire of a project.


9.  Dash Nation

-We are sick of the Dash Spam.  Enough duplicate posts.  Enough in-post advertising.  Do you guys know what they do to spammers in Russia?


Thats 11645++ Dash gone into thin air with NOTHING to show for it


WHO WAS RUNNING THESE PROJECTS, and why was there not even questions asked internally from the Dash core team??
Why did no one ever care to keep these projects on track or accountable?

Core team keeps trying to bite off more than it can chew.

FINISH a few projects to completion with high quality is better than having many sitting there unfinished with wasted money and no momentum.

Of course the DashHoles will ignore all of this and deflect by calling me a "troll."

But they can't do that to Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-january.12561/#post-110305) and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.



Sure when I do it, I'm spamming, but when you do it it's called "XPOST"ing. The hypocrisy is strong with this one.  ;)


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on January 02, 2017, 04:54:41 AM
Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-january.12561/#post-110305) and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.



Sure when I do it, I'm spamming, but when you do it it's called "XPOST"ing. The hypocrisy is strong with this one.  ;)

You put #DASHSPAM advertisements in the body of your posts, ignoring the instruction from theymos to put them in your sig.

You make duplicate posts in the main Dash thread and your spam archive echo chamber thread, which is also against the rules.

You receive monetary compensation from THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC. for making these attempts at astroturf (fake grassroots) marketing.

OTOH, my 100% on-topic crossposts represent ancient internet tradition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting) and I am not paid by "Dash Nation" to make them.

Please spam less, listen more, and stop presuming to correct your elders/superiors.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 02, 2017, 06:27:46 AM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?

If you have been here at bitcointalk long enough you will realize and know that Dash is only a scam. There was a ninja premine in the beginning. That alone should tell you the real motive of the founder of this project.
Scam, scam, scam. You remind me of my favorite Allen Iverson video.

"We talkin' about practice. We talkin' about practice, man. Not the game, not the game, we talkin' about practice." (https://server2.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sjh/sccezk/p2/eGDBR2L5kzI)

Just because you say something over and over again like a mantra doesn't make it true. Dash is far from a scam, it's a serious project with great technology and the capacity for great things, up to and including usurping Bitcoin's position. Just check out the Dash Nation Progress thread to realize the things Dash is up to.

Everything you just said is what a scammer would say or what a person who believes in the scam would also say. Do you really believe that Dash will become a real currency? Wake up and never forget the ninja premine. There is no excuse for what Evan has done.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 02, 2017, 07:11:15 AM
Anyone that claims that Dash had a premine either

A : does not understand the definition of premine
B : use it anyways to spread FUD
C : both

Dash has never been been premined, this can be observed from its blockchain and by looking at coinmarketcap
(premined coins are indicated there also)

Anyways, thank you guys for confirming Dash is still a thing by so heavily commenting in this thread.





Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: TaoOfSaatoshi on January 02, 2017, 07:37:04 AM
Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-january.12561/#post-110305) and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.



Sure when I do it, I'm spamming, but when you do it it's called "XPOST"ing. The hypocrisy is strong with this one.  ;)
BS
I'm so glad that the influence of BCT posters is waning due to the many other venues out there to discuss Dash... the quality of posts here is going downhill fast.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: TaoOfSaatoshi on January 02, 2017, 07:38:53 AM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?

If you have been here at bitcointalk long enough you will realize and know that Dash is only a scam. There was a ninja premine in the beginning. That alone should tell you the real motive of the founder of this project.
Scam, scam, scam. You remind me of my favorite Allen Iverson video.

"We talkin' about practice. We talkin' about practice, man. Not the game, not the game, we talkin' about practice." (https://server2.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sjh/sccezk/p2/eGDBR2L5kzI)

Just because you say something over and over again like a mantra doesn't make it true. Dash is far from a scam, it's a serious project with great technology and the capacity for great things, up to and including usurping Bitcoin's position. Just check out the Dash Nation Progress thread to realize the things Dash is up to.

Everything you just said is what a scammer would say or what a person who believes in the scam would also say. Do you really believe that Dash will become a real currency? Wake up and never forget the ninja premine. There is no excuse for what Evan has done.
Of course I do! Why wouldn't it? It has all of the properties of money, and all the properties of the internet. Its potential is limitless, and it's just getting started.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on January 02, 2017, 07:49:05 AM
Stealth923, a Dash Foundation Member who is now calling BULLSHIT on Dash's scamming (https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-business-development-january.12561/#post-110305) and thus on the brink of liquidating his Masternodes and rage quitting.

Quote from: Stealth923
As much as I hate saying this, I will be voting no against @babygiraffe and the core team proposals.

They keep asking for money but have zero responsibility and accountability to provide updates.

If there are no updates throughout January, I will start offloading my masternodes as continual behaviour like this will never result in a successful project.

@kot @babygiraffe many people have been asking for updates for months for projects you are running. Stop ignoring us.

I'm so glad that the influence of BCT posters is waning due to the many other venues out there to discuss Dash... the quality of posts here is going downhill fast.


Changing the subject to meta about "quality of posts" is a transparent attempt to discuss something other than Dash's Lamassu ATM integration fiasco.

Are you going to address the content of Stealth923's post, or just keep complaining about the forum on which we are posting?


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 02, 2017, 08:25:17 AM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?

If you have been here at bitcointalk long enough you will realize and know that Dash is only a scam. There was a ninja premine in the beginning. That alone should tell you the real motive of the founder of this project.
Scam, scam, scam. You remind me of my favorite Allen Iverson video.

"We talkin' about practice. We talkin' about practice, man. Not the game, not the game, we talkin' about practice." (https://server2.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s2iwolzo/p2/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s2iwolzo/p2/servlet/redirect.srv/sjh/sccezk/p2/eGDBR2L5kzI)

Just because you say something over and over again like a mantra doesn't make it true. Dash is far from a scam, it's a serious project with great technology and the capacity for great things, up to and including usurping Bitcoin's position. Just check out the Dash Nation Progress thread to realize the things Dash is up to.

Everything you just said is what a scammer would say or what a person who believes in the scam would also say. Do you really believe that Dash will become a real currency? Wake up and never forget the ninja premine. There is no excuse for what Evan has done.
Of course I do! Why wouldn't it? It has all of the properties of money, and all the properties of the internet. Its potential is limitless, and it's just getting started.

Ok then that is up to you. No one is trying to change how you think the same way no one should try to change on the way how I think about Dash. I think what Evan did with the ninja premine was scammy and greedy. I want to ask you, do you think the Dash ninja premine was a good thing to do? Please state why you think it was a good move.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: toknormal on January 02, 2017, 09:54:48 AM

I think what Evan did with the ninja premine was scammy and greedy.

LoL !

What a load of faux-ethic sanctimonious bs  :D

We're talking about a crypto - one that was nothing more than a worthless experiment at that time. Whatever the background to its origins it eventually turned into a serious asset. That was thanks to its developer more than anyone, with endorsement from the market.

So please stop with the d.i.y. moralising and get real. It's one of the most valuable and investable projects out there now.




Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 02, 2017, 10:19:19 AM

I think what Evan did with the ninja premine was scammy and greedy.

LoL !

What a load of faux-ethic sanctimonious bs  :D

We're talking about a crypto - one that was nothing more than a worthless experiment at that time. Whatever the background to its origins it eventually turned into a serious asset. That was thanks to its developer more than anyone, with endorsement from the market.

So please stop with the d.i.y. moralising and get real. It's one of the most valuable and investable projects out there now.




It's a scam coin. Get over it and move on to better projects.

Ha ha "whatever the background"

Yeah that's the attitude.

"whatever the background"  yeah good one.



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 02, 2017, 10:24:03 AM
Anyone that claims that Dash had a premine either

A : does not understand the definition of premine
B : use it anyways to spread FUD
C : both

Dash has never been been premined, this can be observed from its blockchain and by looking at coinmarketcap
(premined coins are indicated there also)

Anyways, thank you guys for confirming Dash is still a thing by so heavily commenting in this thread.




This guys is trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

What is the big difference between a premine and a captive instamine??? not much

A premine = they mine before they announce the launch so there is no competition mining on the chain

A captive instamine - they announce it but have no windows wallet so windows miners can't compete on the chain. They also have 100's of amazon instances ready all fully set up to hit mine the second the announce it so they have overwhelming firepower to rape the chain with no competition. As proven by just one of the devs saying he pulled in 120 000 dash in a few hours. Imagine what Evans had aimed at it probably more than the 100 instances that internetape had.

Guess what het result is pretty much the same with the devs and insiders with their noses in the trough whilst the vast majority are held out on purpose. The captive instamine just gives them the bullshit excuse of a fair launch. It's a premine but just a dishonest way of doing one. Its saying to you it's fair and not a premine when it is just that.


This guy is a scam enabler and pumper. Jail him with Evans because Premines are illegal if not handled correctly. This is a premine with the pretense of a fair launch as they advertised it on the OP.

In fact I would give Evans more credit than these other dash whales, he knows that dash is forever going to be doomed compared to competing projects long term. They are trying to turn legit but you can never turn legit with a scamming past. So it going to eventually be reeled in by similar projects with no scam start hampering it forever.

Best thing do the 2 000 000 dash coin air drop he promised to the board to "balance it out"

Shall we start another air drop poll??? I mean Evans himself said he only called it off because he did not want to piss off dash whales to please a SMALL majority on this board. What if we can prove the VAST MAJORITY will welcome their share of a $20 000 000 dollar air drop? Any takers?




Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 02, 2017, 10:36:56 AM
Is dash still a thing? Worth investing? Any new tech to believe? Hype?

If you have been here at bitcointalk long enough you will realize and know that Dash is only a scam. There was a ninja premine in the beginning. That alone should tell you the real motive of the founder of this project.
Scam, scam, scam. You remind me of my favorite Allen Iverson video.

"We talkin' about practice. We talkin' about practice, man. Not the game, not the game, we talkin' about practice." (https://server2.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sjh/sccezk/p2/eGDBR2L5kzI)

Just because you say something over and over again like a mantra doesn't make it true. Dash is far from a scam, it's a serious project with great technology and the capacity for great things, up to and including usurping Bitcoin's position. Just check out the Dash Nation Progress thread to realize the things Dash is up to.

Everything you just said is what a scammer would say or what a person who believes in the scam would also say. Do you really believe that Dash will become a real currency? Wake up and never forget the ninja premine. There is no excuse for what Evan has done.
Of course I do! Why wouldn't it? It has all of the properties of money, and all the properties of the internet. Its potential is limitless, and it's just getting started.

WOW no way. Every other ALT that is remotely serious will claim the same thing. They are not 100% proven scams to start with.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: toknormal on January 02, 2017, 11:32:50 AM

Get over it

There's no "it" to get over.

My priorities have already been endorsed - over a period of nearly 2 & a half years now. It's your argument that got trashed.

The "demise" you so often spoke of back then never came to pass. Development, community participation, mining participation, marketcap, media interest, you name it all grew and continue to do so. Not to mention the establishment of a 4000 strong, collateralised active node network valued at nearly $12000 a pop which are in ever increasing demand and short supply.

Look yourself in the mirror and that advice might be vaguely relevant  ;)


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: generalizethis on January 02, 2017, 12:06:33 PM

Get over it

There's no "it" to get over.

My priorities have already been endorsed - over a period of nearly 2 & a half years now. It's your argument that got trashed.

The "demise" you so often spoke of back then never came to pass. Development, community participation, mining participation, marketcap, media interest, you name it all grew and continue to do so. Not to mention the establishment of a 4000 strong, collateralised active node network valued at nearly $12000 a pop which are in ever increasing demand and short supply.

Look yourself in the mirror and that advice might be vaguely relevant  ;)

Before you get too self-congratulatory, there are at least 19 coins that outperformed dash in 2016--most more than doubled dash's performance and moved up the marketcap ratings, not down.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1732516.0


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: toknormal on January 02, 2017, 12:21:05 PM

Before you get too self-congratulatory, there are at least 19 coins that outperformed dash in 2016--most more than doubled dash's performance and moved up the marketcap ratings, not down

Depends how you measure "performance".

I've often made the case that loads of coins surpassed Dash's cap in the past - including the likes of NEM, FCT etc.

The problem is they didn't sustain it because most are subject to speculative pumps. So ending the year on the price it's at is amazing performance for a 3 year old coin. (In fact just still "being around' is good performance).

Another good example is Monero. It got the a*ss pumped out of it recently, not because it was a great long term investment but because some opportunists saw major competition on the horizon and decided to use a couple of "news items" to launch a market feeding frenzy on its only significant exchange. Problem there is that the last of that "news feed" is about to run out in a few days and get sold off (which is why you're all here desperately fudding Dash as it's starting to rise again).

I'm sure XMR will be milked for all it's worth before then though and as much BTC fleeced from willing noobs as humanly poss. Parr for the course ;)


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: generalizethis on January 02, 2017, 12:25:34 PM

Before you get too self-congratulatory, there are at least 19 coins that outperformed dash in 2016--most more than doubled dash's performance and moved up the marketcap ratings, not down

Depends how you measure "performance".

I've often made the case that loads of coins surpassed Dash's cap in the past - including the likes of NEM, FCT etc.

The problem is they didn't sustain it because most are subject to speculative pumps. So ending the year on the price it's at is amazing performance for a 3 year old coin. (In fact just still "being around' is good performance).

Another good example is Monero. It got the a*ss pumped out of it recently, not because it was a great long term investment but because some opportunists saw major competition on the horizon and decided to use a couple of "news items" to launch a market feeding frenzy on its only significant exchange. Problem there is that the last of that "news feed" is about to run out in a few days and get sold off. O'm sure it will be milked for all it's worth before then though and as much BTC fleeced from willing noobs as humanly poss ;)


Quoted for posterity. Hope it goes right along with, "cryptography isn't a major part of cryptocurrency." (paraphrasing, feel free to add the direct quotation or attempt to downplay the comment with a bunch of hand-wavy rationalizations).


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 02, 2017, 12:52:01 PM

Get over it

There's no "it" to get over.

My priorities have already been endorsed - over a period of nearly 2 & a half years now. It's your argument that got trashed.

The "demise" you so often spoke of back then never came to pass. Development, community participation, mining participation, marketcap, media interest, you name it all grew and continue to do so. Not to mention the establishment of a 4000 strong, collateralised active node network valued at nearly $12000 a pop which are in ever increasing demand and short supply.

Look yourself in the mirror and that advice might be vaguely relevant  ;)

My argument?????? do you mean the presentation of factual events proving it is a scam?? Please explain MY PERSONAL argument you mention? I believe you mean the presentation of the observable events that took place right? this has been trashed really????? tell me more.

Personal opinions mean little here yours or mine. I am happy to discuss only the facts if you don't want to accept that such a known scam can never gain the acceptance something of equal use without the scam start holding it back.  

Wow the ponzi is still running?? this is your rebuttal to my facts that it started and remains a scam coin??

Try again. Dash was ahead of its time in some way technically, it is no longer and the scam nature of Dash is always going to be there unless he does something about it. This is my opinion but if you believe otherwise that is your call.

Besides many investments I have taken since 2014 have increased about 10 x more than dirty dash which is propped up by a big ponzi scheme of insiders and devs.

Let's stick to the facts about the captive instamine on a huge scale and the slashing of the minting and the bolstering of their unfair advantage through the ponzi master nodes scheme.

There is no point in trying to sidetrack with your blathering about dashs great accomplishments over the last 2 years. Let's talk about now they are no longer the top anon coin and many others are catching up too. So dash has floated along and is now starting to get overtaken this will continue in the future because there are better teams that will not be continually facing these scam proof threads every time they try to announce some gimmick they dreamed up.

They took the wrong direction trying to go legit. You can't start with that degree of dirt and decide to go clean. It will never wash.

Dash was the only real anon game in town back when it started. There are many better projects now and none of those are considered a scam by anyone not a dasher. Dash is a proven scam. Please realise this and cash  your masternodes into something with a future. Holding a lot of dash masternodes is playing with fire for small returns in crypto context.

Amanda BJ is another one I need to get on this board and grill as to her motives and understanding of the scam instamine start. How much is this shill paid to pump people with gimmicks and dreams yet forgets to tell everyone how it is a huge scam? another one I would love to see doing some hard time for facilitating scams.

I would prefer to see more of TAO with his dash credibility destroying vids, this guy need immunity from jail when the time comes he is being taken for a ride. Poor guy. It's terrible to imagine a bunch of vulnerable people like this pushing this scam along. Besides unknowingly he is doing more damage to dash so that should be taken into account when he is located and apprehended



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 02, 2017, 06:33:13 PM
Fresh from the press you lucky bastards  ;D


https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/12-1-announcement-finalized-date-project-update.12614/#post-110534

Quote
Happy New Year!

It’s been awhile since I’ve done a full announcement about the status of development, both of the core project and Evolution. We have had a lot of positive news in recent months that we’ve been working on, and I thought now would be a good time to update everybody on our progress, which has been quite good. In fact, we are progressing on many fronts simultaneously.

VERSION TWELVE POINT ONE / SENTINEL RELEASE

Launching a new software release on the network requires that all budget proposals be re-submitted into the system. Due to the timing of superblocks, we have a short window to launch, near the beginning of the month. In order to ensure we launch the most stable possible version of the software without interfering with the budget system, we would like to hold off until early February to launch 12.1. Launch date: February 5th, 2017.

CORE DEVELOPMENT

The first area of progress is Dash Core. In addition to running the network at present, Dash Core also serves as the backbone of the Evolution engine. We have done a great deal of work on Sentinel, our large-scale decentralized programmable database solution, which is going to allow us to move radically faster than any other organization in cryptocurrency. Among other things, Sentinel will allow us to push updates to Dash Core much more quickly and easily.

Sentinel can also be re-geared and deployed to operate digital companies that have a built-in workforce, infrastructure to deploy again, and as an engine for storage and retrieval of information. This is the concept we’re working on, which will allow companies to run on the Dash Network and compete with centralized companies that refuse to work with Dash. It’s a simple divide and conquest model.

We have recently moved a good deal of our funding into paying some new hires, who have now integrated into our team and have pushed through many new versions of the software. Among other things, they have fixed various issues with the stability of the daemon, the syncing of governance objects, and the workability of the new Sentinel system. Sentinel uses a complex set of rules and conditions for validation of objects and maintaining the consensus of the network.

STRATEGIC EXECUTION

Ryan Taylor, Dash’s CFO, has coordinated a deal with Arizona State University’s SkySong incubator, allowing us access to their top tier facility in Tempe, Arizona. There are 29 fast-growing, innovative startups sharing this location, and we look forward to talking with many of them. We also look forward to hiring exceptional talent from the University.


https://i.imgur.com/iUks0u1.png

https://i.imgur.com/sEFm9Bv.png

NETWORK UPGRADE

Feb. 5 is the date of the launch of our new platform. Enforcement will be turned off for this network upgrade, meaning nodes running the old version of the Dash software (12.0) will quickly stop being paid (contingent on miners upgrading). That means masternode rewards will be shared amongst a much smaller pool of upgraded nodes. This should provide a strong incentive to upgrade quickly; it will be very lucrative to upgrade your nodes as quickly as possible.

EVOLUTION UPDATE

Lead evolution developer Andy Freer has been locked away producing huge amounts of documentation for the various concepts of Evolution. This comes after months of conversations between Andy and myself about how each component of Evolution works, then reimagining it and improving the components and designs systematically. Since the original research phase, documentation, specifications, plans and diagrams have been being drafted, growing into a collection of documents that will be put into a wiki with full documentation for Evolution’s end-to-end design and implementation.

EVOLUTION RESEARCH

In January 2016 we released an early Evolution prototype based on Electrum which enabled basic functions such as registering a username and paying friends by name.

The prototype was pretty basic, with user interaction limited to just paying a few friends and user data stored on a dev server, but at least it proved the concept.

What we set out to do then was to design and prototype all the key technologies that would make these functions work in a purely P2P way, with data secured on the Dash blockchain and accessible from anywhere on any device, with integrated SPV based security and no centralized intermediary services required, and using the most common and censorship resistant protocol available - HTTP(S)

What we have designed and prototyped in various parts is a system that will let people signup to Dash, connect with friends, connect with merchants and buy products and services online with options to refund or pay recurring subscriptions, using just a web browser, without going through any intermediary service or having to integrate their own full node. It’s also a system that lets websites and apps become Dash enabled as easily as signing up for an API key and then cut and pasting a few lines of code into their business application that pops up a payment form and bills the user automatically, with all customers and payments visible to the merchant in DashDrive.

What this enables is the first usable digital cash built for the digital economy, because rather than having to integrate an esoteric P2P system into existing digital applications and services using complex infrastructure and interoperation or a centralized intermediary, Dash Evolution can be accessed by an HTTPS API that works more like a decentralized cloud, using familiar data structures such as Users, Accounts and Orders instead of transactions, blocks and crypto addresses, secures user information like a cloud service, but behind the API functions as a purely P2p, decentralized service. We believe this will be the key to gaining mainstream traction for users and businesses on P2P cryptocurrencies, i.e. they won’t even know it’s a P2P cryptocurrency they are using, because it’s as quick, familiar and easy to use / integrate as any existing payment systems used in the mainstream digital economy, all of which are API service based.

EVOLUTION FRONTEND

The 3 main areas of frontend design and development have been to design a secure, SPV based Web Wallet, merchant tools to enable drag-and-drop checkout on a website, and an SDK that connects web clients to DAPI.

The Web Wallet has taken the form of an SPA (single page application) that web users can download as a single HTML page and hashcheck to use securely from their desktop, that enables users to login and manage their accounts, contacts and merchant relationships, including an integrated marketplace for products and services. Users hold their account password and account HD seed on the client side, and on the network side, all of their account meta data is encrypted and stored on the network. After designing the UI / UX in July, ongoing work has been to develop the web wallet platform and soon work is starting to port the work to Android and iOS Evolution wallets. A revamped Dash.org is also being designed (following from the upcoming launch of dash.org v2) to provide a signup to Evolution call-to-action on the homepage and a download or hosted link to the Web Wallet code (and mobile versions).

The merchant tools have taken the form of code that can be cut and pasted into their web page and server to instantly enable Dash payments by user’s name against products the merchant is listing, including a Dash Checkout modal that can handle the payment automatically on the client side. The merchant can also list the products directly in DashDrive to enable Users to make one-time payments, moderated refunds or recurring auto-payments within any DAPI enabled client (such as the Web Wallet) and access full CRM information for their sales / product listings in DashDrive via DAPI.

The SDK (Dash.js) is a single library that web clients and servers include to easily access all wallet and merchant functions using their user accounts or API keys for merchants. This has been based initially on BitPay’s BitCore API and ongoing work has included a variable SPV implementation for the library which enables clients to specify the level of security they wish to balance this between performance and amount of data that needs to be downloaded.

EVOLUTION BACKEND

Evolution Backend Development has leveraged two strategies this year. The first has been to port BitPay’s Bitcore Platform to Dash including merging Bitcore Node to DashCore 12.1 for native API support.

The second ongoing strategy is to leverage this platform to fulfill long-term Evolution requirements while filling more immediate needs. Through this approach we’re now positioned to leverage the entire BitPay ecosystem, most notably Copay (https://copay.io) and the new Insight API. We anticipate having a Dash variant of the Copay wallet available on testnet by the end of January 2017.

In support of the v0.12.1.x Dash Core release, we’ve integrated the Governance Object model into the Bitcore platform (e.g. Budget Proposals). This integration has led to the development of a client-side budget generator as well as an extension of Insight API which returns active budget proposal objects. Moving forward this type of close integration between Bitcore and the Governance Object system will be a huge asset and a foundational piece for continued innovation in v0.12.2.x and beyond.

Work has also included with ProtonMail and Sean Ryan (Node40.com) has also delivered a Payment Processing API which is capable of connecting directly to the Bitcore Wallet Service. A compatible WooCommerce plugin has been developed and is intended to act as both a Proof of Concept for this API as well as a Prototype for future eCommerce integrations. More information on this plugin and related API will be released in early January 2017.

EVOLUTION CORE

Evolution Core work has been focused on first providing a basis to the new system in the form of Sentinel and improving DashCore to be implementation-agnostic to governance functions and objects.

Additional work has been the design / prototype of several key technologies needed at the core level, ranging from the RPC/ZMQ interface to DAPI, a generic Object system governed by a shared Schema protocol that enables Users to secure Object state transitions on the Dash Blockchain and store Object Data sharded across Masternodes (DashDrive). This work has also included upgrading the existing Masternode design to retain proposals, votes, and rewards in DashDrive to provide blockchain consensus. After 12.1 release, work will focus on implementing these designs in conjunction with the frontend and backend work.

Thanks to everyone involved!

Evan Eduffield


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: sui_generis on January 02, 2017, 07:34:38 PM
Dashers are just miffed that XMR has left their scamcoin in the dust. You dimwits! A year ago you could have exchanged your Dash into XMR at 10 to 1! That means a masternode back then would be worth about $160,000 now, had you exchanged it into XMR. So you chased 9% gains, and missed the 1000%+ gains that were right under your noses.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 02, 2017, 08:00:33 PM
Dashers are just miffed that XMR has left their scamcoin in the dust. You dimwits! A year ago you could have exchanged your Dash into XMR at 10 to 1! That means a masternode back then would be worth about $160,000 now, had you exchanged it into XMR. So you chased 9% gains, and missed the 1000%+ gains that were right under your noses.

A tripple Dash price increase and a quadruple Dash marketcap increase in one year alone (2016) is good enough for me.
I kinda dislike these major pump and dump schemes.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: generalizethis on January 02, 2017, 08:17:21 PM
Dashers are just miffed that XMR has left their scamcoin in the dust. You dimwits! A year ago you could have exchanged your Dash into XMR at 10 to 1! That means a masternode back then would be worth about $160,000 now, had you exchanged it into XMR. So you chased 9% gains, and missed the 1000%+ gains that were right under your noses.

A tripple Dash price increase and a quadruple Dash marketcap increase in one year alone (2016) is good enough for me.
I kinda dislike these major pump and dump schemes.

I kind of dislike instamine and cut emission schemes myself, but I'd love to hear your rational for Monero being a pump and dump--please consider carefully the dash cry of "two years and no gui and opensource can't fund marketing;" either that's some crazy patient and haphazardly designed pumping and dumping or you are grabbing for any string you can and don't care how baseless or ridiculous you look like in the process.

Tell aeon I said hi when it passes you on the way up.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 02, 2017, 08:35:27 PM
Dashers are just miffed that XMR has left their scamcoin in the dust. You dimwits! A year ago you could have exchanged your Dash into XMR at 10 to 1! That means a masternode back then would be worth about $160,000 now, had you exchanged it into XMR. So you chased 9% gains, and missed the 1000%+ gains that were right under your noses.

A tripple Dash price increase and a quadruple Dash marketcap increase in one year alone (2016) is good enough for me.
I kinda dislike these major pump and dump schemes.

I kind of dislike instamine and cut emission schemes myself, but I'd love to hear your rational for Monero being a pump and dump--

Just put the charts on longterm and you see what i mean. Oh wait, i forgot .. you do not watch charts that often.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: generalizethis on January 02, 2017, 08:54:29 PM
Dashers are just miffed that XMR has left their scamcoin in the dust. You dimwits! A year ago you could have exchanged your Dash into XMR at 10 to 1! That means a masternode back then would be worth about $160,000 now, had you exchanged it into XMR. So you chased 9% gains, and missed the 1000%+ gains that were right under your noses.

A tripple Dash price increase and a quadruple Dash marketcap increase in one year alone (2016) is good enough for me.
I kinda dislike these major pump and dump schemes.

I kind of dislike instamine and cut emission schemes myself, but I'd love to hear your rational for Monero being a pump and dump--please consider carefully the dash cry of "two years and no gui and opensource can't fund marketing;" either that's some crazy patient and haphazardly designed pumping and dumping or you are grabbing for any string you can and don't care how baseless or ridiculous you look like in the process.

Tell aeon I said hi when it passes you on the way up.
Dashers are just miffed that XMR has left their scamcoin in the dust. You dimwits! A year ago you could have exchanged your Dash into XMR at 10 to 1! That means a masternode back then would be worth about $160,000 now, had you exchanged it into XMR. So you chased 9% gains, and missed the 1000%+ gains that were right under your noses.


A tripple Dash price increase and a quadruple Dash marketcap increase in one year alone (2016) is good enough for me.
I kinda dislike these major pump and dump schemes.

I kind of dislike instamine and cut emission schemes myself, but I'd love to hear your rational for Monero being a pump and dump--

Just put the charts on longterm and you see what i mean. Oh wait, i forgot .. you do not watch charts that often.

You forgot to copy and paste the reason for the long term limited adoption, so I bolded it for you. You're welcome.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 02, 2017, 09:19:38 PM
to OP

https://i.imgur.com/Zw5L8ch.jpg


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: Ascension Takeover on January 02, 2017, 09:50:34 PM
Of course this is still a thing, the network is still running pretty well, the price is very healthy, and incredibly stable for an altcoin, so I guess yes, this is still a thing !


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 03, 2017, 12:54:12 AM

I think what Evan did with the ninja premine was scammy and greedy.

LoL !

What a load of faux-ethic sanctimonious bs  :D

We're talking about a crypto - one that was nothing more than a worthless experiment at that time. Whatever the background to its origins it eventually turned into a serious asset. That was thanks to its developer more than anyone, with endorsement from the market.

So please stop with the d.i.y. moralising and get real. It's one of the most valuable and investable projects out there now.




Sanctimonious? Are you trying to justify that what Evan did was not scammy and greedy? If not then please explain why. I would like to hear your explanation on why you think Evan is an honest and a benevolent person in your eyes since you are defending him and his actions on the ninja premine.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 03, 2017, 03:42:36 AM

I think what Evan did with the ninja premine was scammy and greedy.

LoL !

What a load of faux-ethic sanctimonious bs  :D

We're talking about a crypto - one that was nothing more than a worthless experiment at that time. Whatever the background to its origins it eventually turned into a serious asset. That was thanks to its developer more than anyone, with endorsement from the market.

So please stop with the d.i.y. moralising and get real. It's one of the most valuable and investable projects out there now.




on the ninja premine.

Quote
Anyone that claims that Dash had a premine either

A : does not understand the definition of premine
B : use it anyways to spread FUD
C : both

Dash has never been been premined, this can be observed from its blockchain and by looking at coinmarketcap
(premined coins are indicated there also)

Option B it is...


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: nisya on January 03, 2017, 06:09:01 AM
i am not sure about this but as long as i can make a profit with dash i will use dash for trading. i think dash still worth for now, beside of dash, i am sure that monero have a chance too since dash and monero its an old coins.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: dinofelis on January 03, 2017, 06:42:22 AM
Everything you just said is what a scammer would say or what a person who believes in the scam would also say. Do you really believe that Dash will become a real currency? Wake up and never forget the ninja premine. There is no excuse for what Evan has done.

If I may tune in.  There is in fact no such thing as a scam in a crypto currency.  Every form of coin creation comes with seigniorage.  Only perfect proof of work destroys that seigniorage, and even that is not true, because seigniorage comes in two parts:
1) coin creation
2) value increase of created coins

because in both cases, the holder of the coin is entitled to more market value than the value he brought to the market.   Of course, from a certain point of maturity onward, the value increase of the coin is not "seigniorage" any more, but "speculation".   One can define that this point is reached when about all coins have transited a few hands (real hands, not sybils).  Someone buying a coin at a certain point, to speculate on a higher price at a later point (because of demand for usage, or because of greater fool expectation) is not profiting from seigniorage but is just speculating, if the coin's existence is sufficiently well known that it doesn't concern a small, but increasing club.  Speculation is considered "fair" because you take risk, and you can win or you can lose.  Seigniorage is considered unfair, because your gains are quite certain.  But in both cases, someone is attributing himself higher market value than he brought to the market ; the speculator did bring some "information" to the market through his act of speculation ; the "counterfeiter" (the person obtaining seigniorage) didn't.

Now, all crypto currencies suffer from serious seigniorage: that's what stimulates their creation in many cases.  Most crypto currencies are invented with the purpose of "becoming rich" without having to produce value to the market, but just because "being amongst the first few knowing about it".  Extreme cases are like those with bytecoin or dash, where the devs have been inventing stories to gather a lot of coins for themselves before the actual market players could start taking place.  But when we look at ZCASH, they attribute themselves a serious (post) premine, and most ICO do exactly the same: the ICO is nothing else but selling premined coins.  ALL these schemes, which "optimize" the seigniorage for a limited clique, can be called unfair (a "scam" if you want to).   But, apart from a coin starting out at very small value, and being mined by many people in a grassroots movement, where the "seigniorage" aspect is minimal, and the "speculation" aspect is large, so that the original clique has almost no coins from their initial mining and they all changed hands several times, ALL coins suffer from the unfairness of seigniorage ; some much more than others.

However, this doesn't seem to bother people much.  Indeed, one way of gaining market cap is by convincing sufficient people to "join the scam early" and to rip off the latecomers.   As such, there's not much difference between seigniorage unfairness, and "greater fool theory", which is the basis of most of crypto's market cap in any case.

So, a "scammy premined coin" can have a lot of success in the crypto market.   Greater fool theory is very powerful.  And it doesn't even mean that it has to crash, if the "greater fool" incentive stops early enough, to start to be used for real.  I'm still very doubtful about that, for all crypto.  Real usage seems not to take off.   Market cap is still mostly sustained by greater fool expectations.  For the moment this is not a problem: the world is still full of greater fools.



Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: toknormal on January 03, 2017, 10:26:35 PM

I'd love to hear your rational for Monero being a pump and dump

Start your reading here then:

http://shitco.in/2016/10/09/rare-pepe-fomo-and-the-alt-pump-dump-cycle/

...and continue it here:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XMRBTC/cBHI401H-XMR-whale-exit/


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: sui_generis on January 03, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
Take anything that Toknormal says with a grain of salt. He once said that cryptography is not an important component of cryptocurrencies. In other words, he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. In that context, his love of Dash makes perfect sense. He simply doesn't have the technical understanding to see that Dash is pure garbage.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on January 04, 2017, 05:56:48 AM
Take anything that Toknormal says with a grain of salt. He once said that cryptography is not an important component of cryptocurrencies. In other words, he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. In that context, his love of Dash makes perfect sense. He simply doesn't have the technical understanding to see that Dash is pure garbage.

The funniest part of that story is Tok was telling GMAX of all people "cryptography is not part of cryptocurrency."

Hilarity ensued.  It was like watching a quantum physicist trying to explain wave function collapse to a sea sponge.   :D :D :D


EDIT:

Dash is a shitty instamined scam coin.  That's why it was banned from Apple (https://cointelegraph.com/news/apple-sets-a-deadline-for-removing-dash-from-jaxx-wallet) and will never be on Kraken, much less Coinbase.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: Hueristic on January 05, 2017, 05:23:16 AM

I think what Evan did with the ninja premine was scammy and greedy.

LoL !

What a load of faux-ethic sanctimonious bs  :D

We're talking about a crypto - one that was nothing more than a worthless experiment at that time. Whatever the background to its origins it eventually turned into a serious asset. That was thanks to its developer more than anyone, with endorsement from the market.

So please stop with the d.i.y. moralising and get real. It's one of the most valuable and investable projects out there now.




on the ninja premine.

Quote
Anyone that claims that Dash had a premine either

A : does not understand the definition of premine
B : use it anyways to spread FUD
C : both

Dash has never been been premined, this can be observed from its blockchain and by looking at coinmarketcap
(premined coins are indicated there also)

Option B it is...


Because he explicitly told people to stop trying to get miner to work and he would relaunch the next day and then he continued to mine with his little cadre, That makes it a pre-mine as well as an instamine when he changed the block reward to remove most other coins from ever appearing. ITS A SCAMCOIN whater you want to label it. DEAL with it.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 05, 2017, 06:04:10 AM

I think what Evan did with the ninja premine was scammy and greedy.

LoL !

What a load of faux-ethic sanctimonious bs  :D

We're talking about a crypto - one that was nothing more than a worthless experiment at that time. Whatever the background to its origins it eventually turned into a serious asset. That was thanks to its developer more than anyone, with endorsement from the market.

So please stop with the d.i.y. moralising and get real. It's one of the most valuable and investable projects out there now.




on the ninja premine.

Quote
Anyone that claims that Dash had a premine either

A : does not understand the definition of premine
B : use it anyways to spread FUD
C : both

Dash has never been been premined, this can be observed from its blockchain and by looking at coinmarketcap
(premined coins are indicated there also)

Option B it is...


Because he explicitly told people to stop trying to get miner to work and he would relaunch the next day and then he continued to mine with his little cadre, That makes it a pre-mine as well as an instamine when he changed the block reward to remove most other coins from ever appearing. ITS A SCAMCOIN whater you want to label it. DEAL with it.

You can shout scam as much as you want and you can use ancient fud claims as much as you feel pressured to do, but that still does not make this coin a scam and it still does not define this coin as premined.
This coin has been sold off in several waves already in the time of its existence, has also reached and passed ATH several times and still to this very day its lead developer is heavily involved with the Dash Project.
That makes you arguments not only outdated but also irrelevant.

The simple fact remains that this coin has never been premined and anyone using that term :

A : does not understand the definition of premine
B : use it anyways to spread FUD
C : both

You seem to fall under category C
Congratz

Edit : oh, and thank you by the way for bumping this thread in this altcoin discussion section ... we can always use the extra publicity to Dash.
Here is hoping to many more bumps.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptohunter on January 05, 2017, 10:40:54 AM

I think what Evan did with the ninja premine was scammy and greedy.

LoL !

What a load of faux-ethic sanctimonious bs  :D

We're talking about a crypto - one that was nothing more than a worthless experiment at that time. Whatever the background to its origins it eventually turned into a serious asset. That was thanks to its developer more than anyone, with endorsement from the market.

So please stop with the d.i.y. moralising and get real. It's one of the most valuable and investable projects out there now.




on the ninja premine.

Quote
Anyone that claims that Dash had a premine either

A : does not understand the definition of premine
B : use it anyways to spread FUD
C : both

Dash has never been been premined, this can be observed from its blockchain and by looking at coinmarketcap
(premined coins are indicated there also)

Option B it is...


Because he explicitly told people to stop trying to get miner to work and he would relaunch the next day and then he continued to mine with his little cadre, That makes it a pre-mine as well as an instamine when he changed the block reward to remove most other coins from ever appearing. ITS A SCAMCOIN whater you want to label it. DEAL with it.

You can shout scam (with proof of scam for everyone to see and witness for themselves) as much as you want and you can use ancient fud (facts uncovering deception) claims (proof)  as much as you feel pressured to do ( as every person on this forum who is against scams should do, but that still does not make this coin a scam ( because I'm a dark coin zealot and hold huge bags of dash therefore benefitting from the scame ) and it still does not define this coin as premined.( beacause it was a deceptive captive instamine which then got magnified even more by slashing the minting but i will continue to scream no premine because I think it makes dash scam sound better)
This coin has been sold off in several waves already in the time of its existence (like that makes it okay for it to be a scam in the first place), has also reached and passed ATH several times and still to this very day its lead developer is heavily involved with the Dash Project. (of course he will be heavily involved because it makes the value of all his scam coins he grabbed up in the captive instamine way more valuable)
That makes you arguments not only outdated but also irrelevant.(i'm trying not to laugh as I post this zero logic statement)

The simple fact remains that this coin (is a scam and was captive instamined, then minting reduced by 75 % to magnify the value of the scammed instamined coins and then had masternode ponzi scheme added to forever benefit from taking all the coins at the start) has never been premined and anyone using that term (see how i like to twist things by harping on about no premine when what happened was just as bad or worse)

A : does not understand the definition of premine (even though it is basically the same thing as a captive instamine which is why dash is a scam)
B : use it anyways to spread FUD (facts uncovering deception ...please don't present these facts on my dash scam pump threads)
C : both (i will try first to twist the truth by saying no premine when there was a captive instamine, then call the facts uncovering deception of my and the rest of the dash scam tribe fud.


You seem to fall under category C (which is the worst for dash so please be quiet and let us pump our scam ponzi)
Congratz

Edit : oh, and thank you by the way for bumping this thread in this altcoin discussion section ... we can always use the extra publicity to Dash.
Here is hoping to many more bumps. (I'm a huge spammer of the dash scam )


QWIZZIE's conscience was typing in between the brackets. Sadly his bags of Dash wouldn't let him click post without deleting those parts so I have helped him do the right thing...

You can shout scam (with proof of scam for everyone to see and witness for themselves in multiple threads which have had multiple analysis by many people with even the dash devs confirming just one of the devs mined up 120 000 dash in the first few hours and evans offering a 2 000 000 dash coin air drop to balance things out) as much as you want and you can use ancient fud (facts uncovering deception) claims (proof)  as much as you feel pressured to do ( as every person on this forum who is against scams should do, but that still does not make this coin a scam ( because I'm a dark coin zealot and hold huge bags of dash therefore benefitting from the scheme ) and it still does not define this coin as premined.( beacause it was a deceptive captive instamine which then got magnified even more by slashing the minting but i will continue to scream no premine because I think it makes dash scam sound better)

This coin has been sold off in several waves already in the time of its existence (like that makes it okay for it to be a scam in the first place), has also reached and passed ATH several times and still to this very day its lead developer is heavily involved with the Dash Project. (of course he will be heavily involved because it makes the value of all his scam coins he grabbed up in the captive instamine way more valuable)
That makes you arguments not only outdated but also irrelevant.(i'm trying not to laugh as I post this zero logic statement)

The simple fact remains that this coin (is a scam and was captive instamined, then minting reduced by 75 % to magnify the value of the scammed instamined coins and then had masternode ponzi scheme added to forever benefit from taking all the coins at the start) has never been premined and anyone using that term (see how i like to twist things by harping on about no premine when what happened was just as bad or worse)

A : does not understand the definition of premine (even though it is basically the same thing as a captive instamine which is why dash is a scam)
B : use it anyways to spread FUD (facts uncovering deception ...please don't present these facts on my dash scam pump threads)
C : both (i will try first to twist the truth by saying no premine when there was a captive instamine, then label  facts uncovering deception as fud.


You seem to fall under category C (which is the worst for dash so please be quiet and let us pump our scam ponzi)
Congratz

Edit : oh, and thank you by the way for bumping this thread in this altcoin discussion section ... we can always use the extra publicity to Dash.
Here is hoping to many more bumps. (I'm a huge spammer of the dash scam )

^^^^ what qwizze really means ^^^^^


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 05, 2017, 01:44:38 PM
Thank you for that last thread bump, it is always nice to see someone interprets one of my own posts
so detailed and draw such extensive conclusions from it.

To be honest my eyes did kinda slip over that wall of text, but i'm sure anyone who did read it in its totality
got moved by it.

And now for something completely different :

https://i.imgur.com/nDxb8lT.jpg





 


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on January 05, 2017, 01:45:04 PM
https://i.imgur.com/UvR0bLe.png


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: Monerobuyer on February 16, 2017, 04:29:42 PM
After repeatedly trying to explain why an instamine is bad to people in the Trollbox, I have come to realize this is fundamentally an intelligence issue.

Low information, low IQ people do not have strong principles or a strong understanding of complex subjects. They just see the price increase.  They don't care that they are actively participating in enriching a dishonest schemer. People are either immediately repulsed by instamine or they don't care.

Dash is a well designed scam if you consider how the instamine dovetails nicely into the POS and POS contributes to keeping coins off the exchanges which then allows for low volume pumps and easy price manipulation.  Notice how dash will often move up levels and stabilize without any correction. This is because there are no coins available to short.  The cherry on top is the 10% of governance money Evan also steals.

You cannot "convince" a a low IQ person to have a high IQ. I cannot convince my Yorkie that an instamine is bad.


In conclusion, you cannot convince the 4 dash people here to take issue with this scheme. They can't understand why its wrong.....


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on February 16, 2017, 04:58:43 PM
After repeatedly trying to explain why an instamine is bad to people in the Trollbox, I have come to realize this is fundamentally an intelligence issue.

You are right about that, it is called knowing when to stop trolling. Appearently you lack the intelligence to stop yourself from
trolling with the end-result of you bumping this thread in what is clearly an epic failure from your part to understand why bumping this specific
thread is not very smart.
    


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: dwgscale11 on February 16, 2017, 04:59:03 PM
It's a sell to greater fool scam, that was well executed by brute force marketing.  Car salesman tactics.  Evan and Amanda B Johnson are exiting at some point, and this coin will no longer be talked about..


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on February 16, 2017, 05:01:09 PM
Dash still a thing ? You be the judge !

https://i.imgur.com/kD0K4VC.png


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on February 16, 2017, 05:04:30 PM
Dash still a thing ?

DASH Business Development Strategy Update - FEB 2017
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-business-development-strategy-update-feb-2017.13133/#post-114016

https://i.imgur.com/urd61CT.png


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: Spoetnik on February 16, 2017, 05:11:55 PM
Seems like it at $19.58 a coin when i looked at CoinMarketCap just now..


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: pao_de_lo on February 16, 2017, 05:53:24 PM
DASH is a better currency.

The best invest.

 :)


thanks,
Brazil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf__7wAKm3g).


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: cryptkeeper1979 on February 17, 2017, 06:49:42 AM
DASH is a better currency.

The best invest.

 :)


thanks,
Brazil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf__7wAKm3g).

Dash is disgusting.


Title: Re: Dash still a thing?
Post by: qwizzie on February 17, 2017, 07:13:24 AM
Dash still a thing ?

Dash added to BitMEX
http://www.banklesstimes.com/2017/02/14/dash-added-to-bitmex/
https://i.imgur.com/zZXKiPo.png

Dash unveils largest software upgrade since inception
https://www.financedigest.com/dash-unveils-largest-software-upgrade-since-inception.html

https://i.imgur.com/ygkDPTg.png
       https://i.imgur.com/VJSEN55.png