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Title: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: MagicalTux on November 10, 2010, 01:03:10 PM
Hi,

I'm testing a service I put together quickly: for 0.50 BTC you can send a SMS anywhere in the world.

I implemented a small "wallet" where you can load & unload bitcoins easily (without any fee, of course) and a really limited interface (you'll soon see how bad I am at design).

NB: Loading coins to the wallet will wait for 3 confirmations (~30 min).

URL: http://smsz.net/

Missing features:
  • View status of previously sent SMS, including transfer status
  • Change password/email page
  • Longer messages (will bill 0.5BTC * ceil(length_of_message / 160))
  • Ability to send messages coming from your own phone number (you put your phone number, pay 0.5BTC, receive a code by SMS you then enter on the site and voila)
  • Phone number book
  • When entering the destination phone number, the input should be prefixed of country list with number prefix (need to find a database with country iso code -> country phone code list)
  • Feature for payments (generate payment urls compatible with mobile phones?)

Anyway before spending more time on that, some feedback would be welcome.

Remember to enter numbers in international format (+<country_code>.<phone_number>)!! Even if you make a mistake in the number, the SMS will be sent to the gateway and you'll be billed anyway.


Oh and if you are interested in sending large amount of SMS I can put together an API too :)


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2010, 01:15:19 PM
Hi,

I'm testing a service I put together quickly: for 0.50 BTC you can send a SMS anywhere in the world.

I implemented a small "wallet" where you can load & unload bitcoins easily (without any fee, of course) and a really limited interface (you'll soon see how bad I am at design).

NB: Loading coins to the wallet will wait for 6 confirmations (~1 hour).

URL: http://smsz.net/

Missing features:
  • View status of previously sent SMS, including transfer status
  • Change password/email page
  • Longer messages (will bill 0.5BTC * ceil(length_of_message / 160))
  • Ability to send messages coming from your own phone number (you put your phone number, pay 0.5BTC, receive a code by SMS you then enter on the site and voila)
  • Phone number book

Anyway before spending more time on that, some feedback would be welcome.

Remember to enter numbers in international format (+<country_code>.<phone_number>)!! Even if you make a mistake in the number, the SMS will be sent to the gateway and you'll be billed anyway.


Oh and if you are interested in sending large amount of SMS I can put together an API too :)


Now I can send a twitter message with bitcoin  :D


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: MagicalTux on November 10, 2010, 01:17:47 PM
Now I can send a twitter message with bitcoin  :D

Mh, I think there are easier ways to do that with a computer :D


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2010, 01:29:09 PM
Now I can send a twitter message with bitcoin  :D

Mh, I think there are easier ways to do that with a computer :D

An astronaut recently could have chosen to check into foursquare using his computer but instead chose to do it in space :)



Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: mpkomara on November 10, 2010, 02:02:13 PM
i can't understand the international format you wish me to use, neither on this forum nor on the website.  what kind of example is +1.0000000000?


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: MagicalTux on November 10, 2010, 02:24:20 PM
i can't understand the international format you wish me to use, neither on this forum nor on the website.  what kind of example is +1.0000000000?

The format is +<country_code>.<number>

So if you live in France, it'd be: +33.612341234 or in US: +1.1231231234 or in Japan: +81.8012341234

I guess I could change the phone number input to use a dropdown box per country for the prefix, would probably help.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: bit-numismatist on November 10, 2010, 04:42:22 PM
Good beginning, but I would like to see such feature like sending e-mail to sms. Is it possible?


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: MagicalTux on November 10, 2010, 10:25:13 PM
Good beginning, but I would like to see such feature like sending e-mail to sms. Is it possible?

It is possible, I'd have to find a "good" way to make sure the SMS is indeed from you. For example a special email (your login @smsz.net) with a special keyword in the subject followed by the destination phone number, and the SMS itself in the body of the mail.

How does that sound?


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Anonymous on November 10, 2010, 10:39:26 PM
How hard would it be to create a service outlined in this thread-and send bitcoins by sms?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1739.msg21368#msg21368 (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1739.msg21368#msg21368)


Since you already have btc in your sms wallet if you received a qr coded bitcoin address could you route a bitcoin payment to the address it gives you?





Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: MagicalTux on November 10, 2010, 10:57:24 PM
How hard would it be to create a service outlined in this thread-and send bitcoins by sms?

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1739.msg21368#msg21368 (http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1739.msg21368#msg21368)


Since you already have btc in your sms wallet if you received a qr coded bitcoin address could you route a bitcoin payment to the address it gives you?

This shouldn't be hard, however you would only be able to pay with bitcoins already in your wallet (if not, you'd have to transfer more bitcoins first, which would take one hour to clear).

I could make a simple service to allow sending bitcoins from one wallet to another (or transform bitcoins into an encrypted QR code a merchant could then redeem instantly online, verifying it in the process). I could make this an android/iphone app by using PhoneGap ;)

Now the problem is to find merchants with QR code readers (or webcam able to focus on close objects + appropriate QR-decoding soft) ready to sell stuff for bitcoins


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: jgarzik on November 10, 2010, 11:43:38 PM
Now the problem is to find merchants with QR code readers (or webcam able to focus on close objects + appropriate QR-decoding soft) ready to sell stuff for bitcoins

The merchants will be the ones with QR-codes listed on products; customers snap a picture with their mobile to add to a shopping cart, or initiate payment.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: MagicalTux on November 11, 2010, 11:05:33 AM
Now the problem is to find merchants with QR code readers (or webcam able to focus on close objects + appropriate QR-decoding soft) ready to sell stuff for bitcoins

The merchants will be the ones with QR-codes listed on products; customers snap a picture with their mobile to add to a shopping cart, or initiate payment.

Well then that's easy.

I was thinking of doing something anyway... Didn't plan to put that in the SMS site however ;)


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Anonymous on November 11, 2010, 11:47:38 AM
Now the problem is to find merchants with QR code readers (or webcam able to focus on close objects + appropriate QR-decoding soft) ready to sell stuff for bitcoins

The merchants will be the ones with QR-codes listed on products; customers snap a picture with their mobile to add to a shopping cart, or initiate payment.

Well then that's easy.

I was thinking of doing something anyway... Didn't plan to put that in the SMS site however ;)

Cool. I see such a thing as similar to carrying change in your pockets not a large wad of cash like a gangster.  ;D



Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: mimarob on December 30, 2010, 12:52:45 PM
Wow it worked, i'm very impressed!

I can't for the life of me understand how the payments made their way to my sms account.  ???

First I made a registration with my email and a username / password.

Then, since I had the bitcoin client on another computer, I made a payment to the bitcoin address at smsz.net

How could smsz know how to credit my specific account?  ???



Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: mimarob on December 30, 2010, 12:54:18 PM



I read up today and found out that the US seem to have blocked the non-number caller-id's (such as BITCOIN, SANTACLAUS etc.) unless you pay a huge subscription fee.

Will this application work in the US? Anyone over there tried it? please do!


Another thing that most similar sms-services have is the number of the sms-sender. In fact many services demand that you validate your phone number in the same way as you did here with the email. Only allowing a verified sender number would also reduce the risk of someone using the service for spamming.

www.clickatell.com offers you to send any number as your originator, then the application writer can chose to mask this for its subscribers, but it seems they need to charge a lot for this to work in the US.



Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Mike Hearn on January 01, 2011, 04:29:28 PM
Pretty cool stuff. Just a suggestion - to make it easier/quicker to sign up (which is critical for these things) you could allow logins via Facebook/Google accounts. You could also just use a BitCoin address as the login. Like, if I'm new to the site, I press a button and you give me a fresh, personal address to send coins to. Then simply knowing that address is effectively the username and password.

I guess the risk with that is, if somebody watches the block chain and figures out that you own the address, they could spend other peoples SMS credits. You'd have to ensure that after you spend the coins sent to you, the addresses are invalidated.

I'm also curious why you wait for 3 blocks. Do you think the risk is really so high? For such small amounts you should really be able to just wait until a transaction is received and accepted by your node, the risk at that point is really low already.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: fabianhjr on January 01, 2011, 04:57:57 PM
How could smsz know how to credit my specific account?  ???

It generates an address exclusively for each client. That means that you could share that address and have other people pay for you.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: mimarob on January 03, 2011, 08:14:37 PM
gosh, that simple, not the thing you would normally do with paypal :-)



Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: JackSparrow on April 15, 2011, 07:42:19 AM
My wallet balance on smsZ.net is "-1.00" and I can't send sms anymore.

I think there has to be something wrong with the calculation.


Recent Activity:
Code:
Date                                  	Type  	Amount	Balance	Info
Fri 01 Apr 2011 05:30:00 AM JST in    +4.00 4.00    (confirmed funds)
Fri 01 Apr 2011 05:58:02 AM JST spent -0.50 3.50    Target phone number invalid!
Fri 01 Apr 2011 05:58:03 AM JST earned +0.50 4.00    (refund for unsent message)
Fri 01 Apr 2011 05:59:07 AM JST spent -0.50 3.50  SMS sent (xxx)
Fri 01 Apr 2011 06:01:08 AM JST spent -0.50 3.00    SMS sent (xxx)

So the balance should be +3.00.

Any recommendations?


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: MagicalTux on April 15, 2011, 08:06:59 AM
EDIT: I see your problem, should be better~


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: JackSparrow on April 16, 2011, 12:17:02 AM
EDIT: I see your problem, should be better~

When I try to access http://smsz.net/ I do only get the folowing
Quote
<html><head></head><body>
An unexpected error has occured. Please try again later.
</body></html>


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: michaelk on April 23, 2011, 12:20:00 AM
Help, I got these errors:

Sat 23 Apr 2011 04:45:08 AM JST   in   +1.00   1.00   (confirmed funds)
Sat 23 Apr 2011 09:07:48 AM JST   spent   -0.50   0.50   (sms not sent, contact support)
Sat 23 Apr 2011 09:16:22 AM JST   spent   -0.50   0.00   (sms not sent, contact support)

Why couldn't my smses be sent? How can I get a refund? Thank you.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: MagicalTux on April 23, 2011, 01:27:40 AM
Help, I got these errors:

Sat 23 Apr 2011 04:45:08 AM JST   in   +1.00   1.00   (confirmed funds)
Sat 23 Apr 2011 09:07:48 AM JST   spent   -0.50   0.50   (sms not sent, contact support)
Sat 23 Apr 2011 09:16:22 AM JST   spent   -0.50   0.00   (sms not sent, contact support)

Why couldn't my smses be sent? How can I get a refund? Thank you.

Hi,

I saw the errors here and fixed this bug (the automatic refund system didn't handle the new wallet system I coded, now fixed). I'll re-add your missing funds.


Mark


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: michaelk on April 23, 2011, 02:40:50 AM
Thanks, I got a refund. But when I tried again, the same error happened and I didn't get an auto-refund. I sent you a PM but you might have missed it. Let's move this discussion there.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: JackSparrow on June 09, 2011, 07:05:00 AM
Maybe you could ajust the price for one sms :)


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: JackSparrow on December 30, 2011, 10:21:57 PM
0.5 BTC / SMS is too much, please adjust the price.
ATM there seems to be no other service for sending SMS.
Balance still seems to be corrupt.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Ricochet on January 02, 2012, 10:19:17 PM
Back when this was originally posted, 0.5 BTC was worth a lot less than it is now, probably somewhere around 20 cents.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Blizz on January 03, 2012, 10:00:38 PM
Great idea but you should really pegg that to a fixed USD or similar currency value.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: differential350 on May 28, 2015, 08:59:13 PM
The website is offline, though LazerSMS do the same work (but you can also receive)


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Totscha on May 29, 2015, 02:41:02 PM
The website is offline, though LazerSMS do the same work (but you can also receive)

You do know who MagicalTux is, right? :D


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: hasmukhh on June 10, 2015, 12:22:58 PM
I know brain is made to give out ideas but comfort takes first place.
why to use bitcoin to send sms when we can do it in the easy way via internet.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: nutildah on June 23, 2015, 11:56:02 PM
Nice necropull!

The truth is, there is no reason to use bitcoin for SMS.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: kralle on June 27, 2015, 08:39:14 AM
The website is offline, though LazerSMS do the same work (but you can also receive)

You did reply to a 3 years old topic  ;D


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Fullbuster on June 30, 2015, 09:53:33 PM
The website is offline, though LazerSMS do the same work (but you can also receive)
thanks for the heads up :D


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: speaktome on July 14, 2015, 09:27:59 PM
So it was a old thread, With reason was expensive price for a SMS for 0.50  BTC.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: hasmukhrawal on July 29, 2015, 03:20:59 PM
I can send twitter messages.
But can i send personal messages to anybody using bitcoins.


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: giustone on July 29, 2015, 09:29:06 PM
0.5 BTC per month or life?
Is very expensivem
You can send free sms with another app(blockchain app)


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: unamis76 on July 29, 2015, 09:54:59 PM
Seriously, this thread should just be closed... This is not the first time it's been revived, have people seen who the author is and when the OP was posted?


Title: Re: [TESTING] Sending SMS with bitcoin
Post by: Totscha on July 30, 2015, 08:02:38 AM
Seriously, this thread should just be closed... This is not the first time it's been revived, have people seen who the author is and when the OP was posted?

I think it's super fun :D

"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity..." ;)