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Someone changed my profile to say Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

It is okay to be careful when lending to me as long as I am new here. It is a little extreme to say "extreme caution". I am not a scammer or anything.

What can I do to change this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=logout

Yes god changed it because you are looking for a loan and offering nothing as collateral. That mark will never come off now.

Remember this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1741193.msg17415353#msg17415353
That's the reason

That's classic  ;D

I believe if he contacts the person who left him trust, they'd tell him to wait a few weeks or months and be an active member of the community before they remove it. Well, I know I'd do that.

I think you gave me the wrong link. That just makes me put my password back in. I need my trust score fixed.

I have used this name for over 8 years. I am active in many online communities.

I have never had any problems with anyone here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1741193.0

A brand new account (Date Registered: Today at 03:59:52 AM), asks for a 10BTC loan with no collateral. (Or are you truly saying that name, address, and copy of resume is a collateral?)

You come to this forum, make an account, do not bother to read the stickies and rules, and then you ask for $9,310 loan.
(Not even 30 mins after creating that account, you're already on the lending section and asking for a 10BTC loan.)

If you had bothered to read the stickies, you would know that a collateral's value must be at least 120% of the loaned amount and can be sold easily by the lender.

And now, you're here asking why and how you got that negative feedback?  ??? :o
1. Lock your topic asking for a loan without any valid collateral.
2. Spend several months contributing to the forum and then ask Ecuamobi, Timelord2067, and ThatRandom8543 to review your conduct and remove the negative.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=938986

Haha thats awesome.

@OP You are just a newbie no need to panic why don't you create a new account and start again?

First of all read the rules well. Especially the ones involving money (and lending).
Then make another account. At least the one negative feedback I've checked is valid; you can google more about the negative feedback if you want to learn. Search for: negative feedback site:bitcointalk.org

Again, please read a little more before making the new account, since else you'll end up again with negative feedback sooner or later.

You are given the negative trust and the reason is mentioned clearly .
Brand new user asking for a
big loan without valid
collateral
I don't think your rating is going to be removed even if you request to the member who gave it.
You are a newbie but ignorance of law is no excuse.

I've only now just noticed your loan request, and have also followed up with tagging you. Loans shouldn't be given out without collateral anyhow, especially not to new members.

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Read the following: [EDU] The Rule of "No Collateral, No Loan" - IGNORE AT YOUR OWN RISK! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0).

I took a look at one of the other feedbacks left to him as well.(by Timelord2067)
 
Turns out he also created a thread, asking for "Best Ways to Scam".

So, it's not just a case of a user asking for a huge loan without collateral while being "unaware" of the rules, as he's making it out to be.
He's also admitted to stealing as well as "not having an issue taking advantage of trust".
https://i.imgur.com/FZz7Hzu.png
http://archive.is/Ar8Rv

Good find and a pretty sad one. I don't understand then why he's complaining then...
On the bright side, if all the scammers on this forum would have to ask around how to do scams, they would be much easier to avoid.

Even if you manage to convince the others to remove their negative trust of you, this one won't be removed any-time before Rapture:


Ref: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1741271.0

...it's what's know in the business as Butt Hurt ^TM: enjoy.

lol,look at the hacking skills he has and he still believes in begging over the forum for a few satoshi's.

(quote from  the archived page )
Left him a negative trust.A sheer piece of scum on earth.

I hadn't noticed that, thanks. And thank you Timelord2067. I've added an extra negative to OP.

I was going to say that OP should follow neochiny's advice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1741242.msg17417867#msg17417867) but of course that would cover only the no-collateral loan, not the explicit intent to scam.

This has been my name for years. Just search this name on google, you will find that I am trusted!

That thread does not exist. You cannot point to it, can you?


I think this is a personal attack.

You mean that this thread (http://archive.is/Ar8Rv#selection-299.0-299.17) had never existed? Lying is bad. I'll add another negative to your account. Looks like you'll have a nice fancy collection of them!


I can also register on other forums and claim that I am apexofservice, but unless there is verification from the original sources, the claim is unproven. The onus is on you.

That thread is not real. You cannot show it on here, therefore it is not real.

Cheers!

The archive website is actually used for cases such as yours, where users tend to cover their shady behavior. That link is the evidence sufficient for proving that the thread existed at one point in time, i.e. was created by you. Trying to hide it just made all of this worse.

Maybe some vigilantes should warn his peers wherever he claims to be trusted elsewhere..

Unfortunately, due to the fact that anyone could have registered the username apexofservice, there is no clear way to form a connection between this apexofservice and any other apexofservice accounts. For example, if I were to register an account with a username of satoshi on a different forum and scam on there, there is no link between the satoshi on that forum and the satoshi anywhere else.

Otherwise, there would be issues with individuals attempting to frame users.

I would like to suggest moderators who delete threads at least archive off-site the thread and mark the UID with the archive reference.

Are you saying that I covered my shady behavior by deleting that thread? News flash hotshot, there is no delete thread button.

I am open and transparent. I am the victim here.

No you're not. Archive.is is a genuine archival website; nothing there is fabricated. There is solid evidence of that thread existing and you having made it.
I would suggest that you leave this forum and not come back; you won't get any sympathy here.

Also, that 'hotshot' that you're arguing with is Staff and can still see the deleted thread if it is in the Trashcan. Trying to call them out on it is a stupid thing to do.

Yes I am.
Which governing body gave Archive.is this accreditation?
Everything is fabricated
No jury of my peers has found me guilty. I am innocent until proven guilty.
Where did I ask for your suggestion?
Why?
I will come whenever I want ;)
I am not looking for sympathy
Impressive
This thread does not exist
Right.
No. It is the smart thing to do. Proof or GTFO

My man, I suspect your account is an alt of someone else.  Who knows?  I don't have proof, just a suspicion.  But the best thing for you to do IF you're not an alt troll is to ditch this account, because it's worthless.  If you're going to be a member here, start fresh and stop being such a cunty mess.  You got blasted with red, and you didn't even break 20 posts.  That's pretty damn bad, so learn your lesson if you can. 

All I want is my rep to be what it should be, positive.

I don't need to make 20 posts, I just need my loan for my tuition.

What lesson do I need to learn?

you can find the thread in googles cache as well: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pH2CyFhr7OUJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D1741271.new

are you saying google and archive.is are colluding against you?

The lesson is that when people come here, make accounts, and start asking for money--whether it's a loan or not--it's not appreciated.  Because the pattern is for noob accounts to scam.  Sob stories, people getting locked out in the cold, family issues, blah blah blah, we've heard it all here.  It's not likely you're going to recover your zero trust score (LOL), so hopefully you're not attached to this account.  If you'd just been a member here and read how the lending section works, you would have avoided all of this.

It's all a conspiracy! Google, Archive.is and Bitcointalk are all working together to give some nobody negative trust on a forum!
It's obvious that poor OP is the victim here.

dude, no one pays attention to that anyway because it is an uncontrolled game for most of the members.  you are on the forum, not being kicked off, just ignore it and do your thing. 

I'm pretty sure that after 6 individuals assessing you and having the same conclusion that you're in no position to make those kinds of statements. Your reputation currently is what it should be, negative.

Nobody will buy into that story.

Don't ask for loans without collateral, do not ask or even think about scamming.

Hi minifrij,

Thanks for the support! I can give you a share of the loan proceeds if you want!

I think that you don't understand obvious sarcasm.

Don't scam?


I figure I'll help you out with this one, and confirm that the thread is real for the sake of saving you from having to keep denying it.

Recover?!? A newbie with a trust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=938986) rating of -64!!! That must be some kind of record...  ;D

His post (http://archive.is/Ar8Rv#selection-299.0-299.17) sais it all, doesn't it...?  ::)

Dude, don't leave your day job... ROFL

I also dont understand why pupils get negative trust if they just writed a topic becausr the maybe dont know rules.They dont read rules today world is fast.I would give them only warning in pm and if they repeat they got negative trust.I dont like this bann and red trust system I was banned in past because of referral spamming so i created new account but i was banned because copy paste posts i didnt know that i cant do that and no warning and i got bann.

Dude, have you read his post (http://archive.is/Ar8Rv#selection-299.0-299.17)? Sais it all, doesn't it...?!?


PS. I was thinking of highlighting the "issues" in his post, but that would mean to actually highlight everything except "Ideas?"...  ::)

Believe me, it's better to see red trust when you're newbie and you can just make another account.
People have to learn somehow to read the rules, behave nicely and see this as a community of people with a common goal, not a bunch of spoiled stupid rich kids easy to be scammed.
Then this forum would have a better name, Bitcoin too, there would be maybe 1/10 accounts, but much better ones.
And the trust system is the only system we have. It's not perfect, but not bad. By your idea somebody will have to keep sending warnings and keep track of them. Time is money.
With current system, anybody can give feedback. Sometimes it's not deserved and it hurts a lot, especially if the account is high rank. But most of the times it is well-deserved. OP clearly deserved it.
 

That's actually what worries me here. Seeing OP's obvious lack of morals (http://archive.is/Ar8Rv#selection-513.0-525.6) we gave him some "free lessons" here for the future... >:(

The other free lesson was that we are not stupid and we can fight back.
And trying silly things will get him - more sooner than later - red again.
I'm not worried.

It's horrible that someone is so open towards the act of scamming. Not only does he seem to be quite open to it, but he also seems to have intention of doing it. Too many scammers are around. :-\

you can believe me:
One can perfectly live with negative trust.
it is funny to read here that the red trusted has to prove that it is honest and the red trusters have to prove absolutly nothing.
So is life.


Why should I change my account...i'm winspiral here and other where...and everywhere...it is not red trust who will change my behavour.

It would be clever for my red truster to change account to hide the shame (lol)

Not an excuse.
1. You got banned because you joined the forum yet didn't even bother to read the rules.
2. Again, after being banned the first time, you still didn't bother to read the rules. In addition, you shouldn't have to be told that copying other users posts and passing it off as your own is wrong.  ???  :-[

There are 3,657 newbies with negative rating.  The worst is magic max with a rating of -1024

Then I am finally not so bad...with only -16
I see -16 but I am not sure every one see that.

WoW... I see him even at -9999, good find... And sad. Yeah, sad too...  ::)

Can you show me proof? I can't rely on the word of a proven scammer!

I think it is only fair to ask for free lessons. How else should I learn?

Well, If you're willing to "learn" let's start with your last post:


You're not "on trial" here. There is no need for some kind of definitive "proof". Most people around here understand how Web Archives (http://archive.is/Ar8Rv#selection-299.0-299.17) and Google Caching (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pH2CyFhr7OUJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D1741271.new) works (which BTW is "proof" enough on its own). So you're going through your "goodwill" with most of the people on this forum really fast...

Maybe you can try a different tactic? If I may give you a suggestion: try acknowledging what you did wrong, accept it is not acceptable behaviour, ammend your behaviour accordingly... It might bring you a lot further in life - in general - and on this forum - in particular.

Its not going to work. You are just wasting your time. Go away, troll elsewhere.

You have no right to put me on trial! I am innocent until you can prove I am guilty. Before that, you have no right to call me a scammer!

Sure can!

https://i.imgur.com/2JayQMW.png

https://i.imgur.com/ltf1NKJ.png

;D  ;D Haha
There you go.