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Title: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: ridery99 on January 17, 2017, 09:39:47 AM
Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world

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Eight men own the same wealth as the 3.6 billion people who make up the poorest half of humanity, according to a new report published by Oxfam today to mark the annual meeting of political and business leaders in Davos.

Oxfam’s report, ‘An economy for the 99 percent’, shows that the gap between rich and poor is far greater than had been feared. It details how big business and the super-rich are fuelling the inequality crisis by dodging taxes, driving down wages and using their power to influence politics. It calls for a fundamental change in the way we manage our economies so that they work for all people, and not just a fortunate few.

New and better data on the distribution of global wealth – particularly in India and China – indicates that the poorest half of the world has less wealth than had been previously thought.  Had this new data been available last year, it would have shown that nine billionaires owned the same wealth as the poorest half of the planet, and not 62, as Oxfam calculated at the time.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2017-01-16/just-8-men-own-same-wealth-half-world (https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2017-01-16/just-8-men-own-same-wealth-half-world)


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: The-Accountant on January 17, 2017, 09:42:04 AM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sahyadri on January 17, 2017, 09:53:31 AM
Most of this wealth they hold is speculative in form of shares.

If they were to sell those shares the price of those shares would fall steeply


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 17, 2017, 10:26:52 AM
There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: BADecker on January 17, 2017, 10:44:15 AM
Same 8 men will lose the wealth of half the world... when they die.    8)


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Chikito on January 17, 2017, 11:03:09 AM
it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 17, 2017, 11:28:13 AM
it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Slow death on January 17, 2017, 11:38:45 AM
https://www.oxfam.org/sites/www.oxfam.org/files/styles/campaign-large/public/main_pictures/paraisopolis2008-700.jpg?itok=N1mg_CR7

There are people who live in those simple houses and are very happy compared to many people who live in their palaces.

Same 8 men will lose the wealth of half the world... when they die.    8)

I agree

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

Many of these billionaires have fortune because they Harms many people

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

Would be a solution, but as long as poor countries are run by unscrupulous people, will hardly escape poverty.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 17, 2017, 11:53:56 AM
There are people who live in those simple houses and are very happy compared to many people who live in their palaces.

How can you be so sure? I am 100% confident that they will be much more happier, if they could afford quality healthcare and send their children to good schools. In most of the cases, money can buy you happiness.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: dreamer81 on January 17, 2017, 01:38:50 PM
it's plain dumb to measure happiness in wealth.

The richest man in the world could die of cancer in a 1 or less (steve jobs).

I'd rather stay healthy than rich


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: coolcoinz on January 17, 2017, 03:23:19 PM
Ever heard of the Bilderberg group? It was made for this purpose, to manipulate the economy and political situation. If you gather a group of the most powerful people in the world and focus them on a specific area, branch of industry, country, whatever, you can do anything you want. They could bring a whole country back from debt and poverty or run a prospering one into debt.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 17, 2017, 03:32:58 PM
They could bring a whole country back from debt and poverty or run a prospering one into debt.

They could do it, with the help of corrupt politicians. Take the case of Greece as an example. The two mainstream parties (PASOK and New Democracy) not only allowed the oligarchs to loot the national wealth, but also turned a blind eye when these criminals were moving the funds to safe heavens in London and Geneva. Without such politicians, the Bilderberg group will be powerless to manipulate the economy.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: coolcoinz on January 17, 2017, 03:56:22 PM
They could bring a whole country back from debt and poverty or run a prospering one into debt.

They could do it, with the help of corrupt politicians. Take the case of Greece as an example. The two mainstream parties (PASOK and New Democracy) not only allowed the oligarchs to loot the national wealth, but also turned a blind eye when these criminals were moving the funds to safe heavens in London and Geneva. Without such politicians, the Bilderberg group will be powerless to manipulate the economy.

That's true. I've seen a map of corruption in the world and, sadly, the poorer the country the more corrupt it was. I'm sure you've seen what happened in Ukraine couple years ago. The protesters were being paid to be there, they even openly admitted it in front of the cameras that people are sending them money to fight the government and some said they were getting daily wages.
On the other hand they had to do something. People were earning $200 a month and their politicians were living in palaces: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10656023/In-pictures-Inside-the-palace-Yanukovych-didnt-want-Ukraine-to-see.html


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 17, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
They could bring a whole country back from debt and poverty or run a prospering one into debt.

They could do it, with the help of corrupt politicians. Take the case of Greece as an example. The two mainstream parties (PASOK and New Democracy) not only allowed the oligarchs to loot the national wealth, but also turned a blind eye when these criminals were moving the funds to safe heavens in London and Geneva. Without such politicians, the Bilderberg group will be powerless to manipulate the economy.

That's true. I've seen a map of corruption in the world and, sadly, the poorer the country the more corrupt it was. I'm sure you've seen what happened in Ukraine couple years ago. The protesters were being paid to be there, they even openly admitted it in front of the cameras that people are sending them money to fight the government and some said they were getting daily wages.
On the other hand they had to do something. People were earning $200 a month and their politicians were living in palaces: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10656023/In-pictures-Inside-the-palace-Yanukovych-didnt-want-Ukraine-to-see.html

This is actually perceived truth. You can observe this and experience this yourself. Go to a 1st world country and go to a 3rd world country and compare how it feels.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Real5real on January 17, 2017, 07:28:42 PM
The system is rigged and nothing will happen until enough people are so deep in shit that they can't handle it anymore and the revolution begins.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: PetroffVany on January 17, 2017, 08:06:44 PM
There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
If you like, Trump the start-up capital by his father. I think that with the release of the land helped. Look how we live the children of the rich. How do you say in Russian "Money goes to money". You agree with this idea?


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 18, 2017, 07:30:23 AM
If you like, Trump the start-up capital by his father. I think that with the release of the land helped. Look how we live the children of the rich. How do you say in Russian "Money goes to money". You agree with this idea?

Trump managed to convert an investment of $30 million given by his father to a $3 billion business. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who inherited fortunes worth billions, but ended up as dirt poor.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: criptix on January 18, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
If you like, Trump the start-up capital by his father. I think that with the release of the land helped. Look how we live the children of the rich. How do you say in Russian "Money goes to money". You agree with this idea?

Trump managed to convert an investment of $30 million given by his father to a $3 billion business. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who inherited fortunes worth billions, but ended up as dirt poor.

Bahahaha what a sheep.
That russian troll belives that Putin is santa claus.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: dirokkl on January 18, 2017, 10:59:21 AM
If you like, Trump the start-up capital by his father. I think that with the release of the land helped. Look how we live the children of the rich. How do you say in Russian "Money goes to money". You agree with this idea?

Trump managed to convert an investment of $30 million given by his father to a $3 billion business. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who inherited fortunes worth billions, but ended up as dirt poor.

Bahahaha what a sheep.
That russian troll belives that Putin is santa claus.
Russian trolls on all sites are company to support Trump. I certainly do not think that the Russian was recruited by Trump. It seems to me that Putin believes that Trump is a very stupid man and it would be easy to cheat.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: craked5 on January 18, 2017, 12:06:31 PM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.
False. Today is the first time where we have such a strong wealth inequality

There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Sure, they clearly deserve owning half of the world. I mean, they clearly produce a work that deserves that  ::)
How dumb can you be?

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

Oh ok, this dumb...
Sure sure sure, I mean clearly if there is not a single Kenyan who's a billionaire, it's just because they chose to not work and study at school. Clearly it's THEIR fault, we were all born equal and those are just stupid enough to go up.
You're ignored, I'm tired of your stupidity. You don't deserve anything but to go back to school...


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: craked5 on January 18, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
If you like, Trump the start-up capital by his father. I think that with the release of the land helped. Look how we live the children of the rich. How do you say in Russian "Money goes to money". You agree with this idea?

Trump managed to convert an investment of $30 million given by his father to a $3 billion business. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who inherited fortunes worth billions, but ended up as dirt poor.

Bahahaha what a sheep.
That russian troll belives that Putin is santa claus.

I don't know if he's russian but the worst part is that I think he's serious...
Some people ACTUALLY believe that earning money and living a good life is a question of work amount...
Which is clearly not the case anymore! If it ever was...


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: PetroffVany on January 18, 2017, 01:40:09 PM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.
False. Today is the first time where we have such a strong wealth inequality

There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Sure, they clearly deserve owning half of the world. I mean, they clearly produce a work that deserves that  ::)
How dumb can you be?

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

Oh ok, this dumb...
Sure sure sure, I mean clearly if there is not a single Kenyan who's a billionaire, it's just because they chose to not work and study at school. Clearly it's THEIR fault, we were all born equal and those are just stupid enough to go up.
You're ignored, I'm tired of your stupidity. You don't deserve anything but to go back to school...
Unfortunately very few of these people earned their money thanks to the outstanding abilities. They are all heirs of the ruling clans. Power and money inherited. It says that the world is ruled not people, and money.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: craked5 on January 18, 2017, 02:02:05 PM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.
False. Today is the first time where we have such a strong wealth inequality

There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Sure, they clearly deserve owning half of the world. I mean, they clearly produce a work that deserves that  ::)
How dumb can you be?

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

Oh ok, this dumb...
Sure sure sure, I mean clearly if there is not a single Kenyan who's a billionaire, it's just because they chose to not work and study at school. Clearly it's THEIR fault, we were all born equal and those are just stupid enough to go up.
You're ignored, I'm tired of your stupidity. You don't deserve anything but to go back to school...
Unfortunately very few of these people earned their money thanks to the outstanding abilities. They are all heirs of the ruling clans. Power and money inherited. It says that the world is ruled not people, and money.

Yes, and the worst par is that even those who earned this money don't deserve to pwn half of the world!

Yeah billgate created a huge company!
Yeah Zuckerberg had a brillant idea!
Do they deserve to own so much? Does that mean that without them the world would have beeb so different?

No. Without bill Gates someone would have had the idea of PC sooner or later. And in this case rather soon... and what did Zuckerberg bring to the world apart from a chat platform with loads of adds?


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Aikonio on January 18, 2017, 02:51:08 PM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.
False. Today is the first time where we have such a strong wealth inequality

There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Sure, they clearly deserve owning half of the world. I mean, they clearly produce a work that deserves that  ::)
How dumb can you be?

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

Oh ok, this dumb...
Sure sure sure, I mean clearly if there is not a single Kenyan who's a billionaire, it's just because they chose to not work and study at school. Clearly it's THEIR fault, we were all born equal and those are just stupid enough to go up.
You're ignored, I'm tired of your stupidity. You don't deserve anything but to go back to school...
Unfortunately very few of these people earned their money thanks to the outstanding abilities. They are all heirs of the ruling clans. Power and money inherited. It says that the world is ruled not people, and money.

Yes, and the worst par is that even those who earned this money don't deserve to pwn half of the world!

Yeah billgate created a huge company!
Yeah Zuckerberg had a brillant idea!
Do they deserve to own so much? Does that mean that without them the world would have beeb so different?

No. Without bill Gates someone would have had the idea of PC sooner or later. And in this case rather soon... and what did Zuckerberg bring to the world apart from a chat platform with loads of adds?
I agree with you. Only I can tell you that Zuckerberg and bill gates are not the worst in this list. They even did anything. What did the Morgans, the Rothschilds? Only plunder people and the state. I am against these people. They causes of crises in the world.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: youdamushi on January 18, 2017, 08:14:17 PM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.
False. Today is the first time where we have such a strong wealth inequality

There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.
Sure, they clearly deserve owning half of the world. I mean, they clearly produce a work that deserves that  ::)
How dumb can you be?

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

Oh ok, this dumb...
Sure sure sure, I mean clearly if there is not a single Kenyan who's a billionaire, it's just because they chose to not work and study at school. Clearly it's THEIR fault, we were all born equal and those are just stupid enough to go up.
You're ignored, I'm tired of your stupidity. You don't deserve anything but to go back to school...
Unfortunately very few of these people earned their money thanks to the outstanding abilities. They are all heirs of the ruling clans. Power and money inherited. It says that the world is ruled not people, and money.

Yes, and the worst par is that even those who earned this money don't deserve to pwn half of the world!

Yeah billgate created a huge company!
Yeah Zuckerberg had a brillant idea!
Do they deserve to own so much? Does that mean that without them the world would have beeb so different?

No. Without bill Gates someone would have had the idea of PC sooner or later. And in this case rather soon... and what did Zuckerberg bring to the world apart from a chat platform with loads of adds?
I agree with you. Only I can tell you that Zuckerberg and bill gates are not the worst in this list. They even did anything. What did the Morgans, the Rothschilds? Only plunder people and the state. I am against these people. They causes of crises in the world.

Yeah that's what happens in low growth society...

When you get high growth, inheritance isn't that important or bad.
You can really compensate it by work and wealth creation.
But now that we're in a natural growth system we can't go past the legacy aspect!


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: audaciousbeing on January 18, 2017, 08:21:00 PM
If that is true then I dont have problem with that so far they made their money and they are not stooping anyone from making his own. If you are not comfortable with their wealth go make your own. Rich people to me didn't get rich by default its a calculated attempt to become rich and stay as such... Although I will agree that government will play enough role to make them richer than majority of us but still same I still believe they are richer than that because a lot of people in the other category, they are the source of their wealth if they are billionaires, I am sure they would have created thousands of millionaires and gradually the gap will reduce the more and finally, if they decide not to be rich, I am sure someone else is ready to take their place immediately.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: sergeyzol on January 18, 2017, 08:21:53 PM
If you like, Trump the start-up capital by his father. I think that with the release of the land helped. Look how we live the children of the rich. How do you say in Russian "Money goes to money". You agree with this idea?

Trump managed to convert an investment of $30 million given by his father to a $3 billion business. On the other hand, there are a lot of people who inherited fortunes worth billions, but ended up as dirt poor.

Bahahaha what a sheep.
That russian troll belives that Putin is santa claus.

I don't know if he's russian but the worst part is that I think he's serious...
Some people ACTUALLY believe that earning money and living a good life is a question of work amount...
Which is clearly not the case anymore! If it ever was...
Russian General wants to destroy the whole world. In this world all live is good and bad in Russia. Their dream is to destroy the whole world and in the new world to try to hold a place. Surely in this world is someone else out there who believes Russian?


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: zuyfg888 on January 19, 2017, 01:07:26 AM
As we all know that there is a 8 men own same wealth as half the world, but we cannot assure or we cannot say that there is only 8 men. We cannot also say that only 8 men own same wealth, because we cannot see the money of every people in the world, and we cannot compare the money or the wealth to the treasures and memories of our own life.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: andrei56 on January 19, 2017, 03:05:33 AM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.
While there has always been a disparity in the distribution of wealth and in a way that is understandable, the difference has grew incredibly large in the last centuries, in the past there was not efficient medical attention whether you were rich or poor, now the richest have access to the best doctors, medicines and hospitals while the poor still don't have access to medical attention.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Kvazimoda on January 19, 2017, 04:03:32 PM
It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.
While there has always been a disparity in the distribution of wealth and in a way that is understandable, the difference has grew incredibly large in the last centuries, in the past there was not efficient medical attention whether you were rich or poor, now the richest have access to the best doctors, medicines and hospitals while the poor still don't have access to medical attention.
It seems to me that the problem with such an unequal distribution of wealth is due to the fact that the world economy is ruled by bankers. This allows you not to produce wealth, and thus earn more money.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: sportis on January 19, 2017, 04:05:28 PM
This is not strange for me. Always the same things were happened and will not ever be changed. According to the live count of Forbes, only on the last day (of count) Warren Buffet, the third richest man in the world, added US $ 1.3 billion in his fortune. Check out the ranking of 2016 http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:realtime



Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Kvazimoda on January 19, 2017, 04:18:38 PM
This is not strange for me. Always the same things were happened and will not ever be changed. According to the live count of Forbes, only on the last day (of count) Warren Buffet, the third richest man in the world, added US $ 1.3 billion in his fortune. Check out the ranking of 2016 http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:realtime


Today he lost 201 million dollars. It's certainly not a very big loss if we compare with his status, but still a loss. I believe that exchange was conceived as an aid to investing, but now they are just an object for speculation.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: jackshephard on January 19, 2017, 04:36:47 PM
well that's the world, the topic about capitalism and socialism as well as people getting too much compared to others isn't a new topic to humanity at all imo


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 19, 2017, 04:48:19 PM
This is not strange for me. Always the same things were happened and will not ever be changed. According to the live count of Forbes, only on the last day (of count) Warren Buffet, the third richest man in the world, added US $ 1.3 billion in his fortune. Check out the ranking of 2016 http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#version:realtime


Today he lost 201 million dollars. It's certainly not a very big loss if we compare with his status, but still a loss. I believe that exchange was conceived as an aid to investing, but now they are just an object for speculation.

The methodology is wrong. His net worth was calculated using the market price of the Berkshire Hathway stock. Only a small part of the stocks are in floating mode. If Buffet dumps some of his own (non-floating) shares into the market, then the price will crash.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: SvenBomvolen on January 19, 2017, 05:35:41 PM
   I often think how much money I need to have to buy house on very nice place, new car, house on a see, and to have money for the rest of my life for food and other things. My calculations are on 1 million euros! Thats right with 1 million I can have all this! And I ask my self what can this men do with their billions? What? For what and for whom are they making that money? Stupid people, thats is what I think about them and I wonder how they can sleep at night. Cause of this 8 people and their followers kids die every day cause they dont have food and watter, and do I need to start talking about poverty in this world? Shame on them!


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: v1ryspro on January 19, 2017, 06:26:38 PM
  I often think how much money I need to have to buy house on very nice place, new car, house on a see, and to have money for the rest of my life for food and other things. My calculations are on 1 million euros! Thats right with 1 million I can have all this! And I ask my self what can this men do with their billions? What? For what and for whom are they making that money? Stupid people, thats is what I think about them and I wonder how they can sleep at night. Cause of this 8 people and their followers kids die every day cause they dont have food and watter, and do I need to start talking about poverty in this world? Shame on them!
They are not interested in your opinion. They have completely different costs and completely different needs. For them your million euros is not money at all. For all this, they will not give you a penny because it contradicts their ideology.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: youdamushi on January 19, 2017, 06:49:00 PM
  I often think how much money I need to have to buy house on very nice place, new car, house on a see, and to have money for the rest of my life for food and other things. My calculations are on 1 million euros! Thats right with 1 million I can have all this! And I ask my self what can this men do with their billions? What? For what and for whom are they making that money? Stupid people, thats is what I think about them and I wonder how they can sleep at night. Cause of this 8 people and their followers kids die every day cause they dont have food and watter, and do I need to start talking about poverty in this world? Shame on them!
They are not interested in your opinion. They have completely different costs and completely different needs. For them your million euros is not money at all. For all this, they will not give you a penny because it contradicts their ideology.

No.
Not at all in fact.
They have different DESIRES yes.
But they have EXACTLY the same needs as you do.
That's why wealth inequality is a problem


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: yuiyuga on January 19, 2017, 08:11:31 PM
  I often think how much money I need to have to buy house on very nice place, new car, house on a see, and to have money for the rest of my life for food and other things. My calculations are on 1 million euros! Thats right with 1 million I can have all this! And I ask my self what can this men do with their billions? What? For what and for whom are they making that money? Stupid people, thats is what I think about them and I wonder how they can sleep at night. Cause of this 8 people and their followers kids die every day cause they dont have food and watter, and do I need to start talking about poverty in this world? Shame on them!
They are not interested in your opinion. They have completely different costs and completely different needs. For them your million euros is not money at all. For all this, they will not give you a penny because it contradicts their ideology.

No.
Not at all in fact.
They have different DESIRES yes.
But they have EXACTLY the same needs as you do.
That's why wealth inequality is a problem

Needs are others. They think global ideas and therefore their scope is not commensurate with yours. Every day they wrapped hundreds of millions of dollars. As humans they certainly need the same. But the ambitions are much higher.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 19, 2017, 10:02:45 PM
There is no point in being jealous. They became rich through their hard work. For example, Bill Gates put decades of effort for Microsoft, before the Windows OS and MS Office became popular. None of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

Not all people made money through honest work.

All credits to Steve Jobs and Bill Gates though  :)


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: n691309 on January 19, 2017, 11:55:29 PM
I haven't researched about this case but if this is true then I can say that if the money would be spread to all people in the world then there would not be poor or rich people and all would be considered equal. World populations is estimated to 7 billion so those 8 men are as rich as 3.5 billion people in the world.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: zuyfg888 on January 20, 2017, 12:54:03 AM
I haven't researched about this case but if this is true then I can say that if the money would be spread to all people in the world then there would not be poor or rich people and all would be considered equal. World populations is estimated to 7 billion so those 8 men are as rich as 3.5 billion people in the world.

We all citizens must know about this research, but we must know if it is only a research or it is not a fact. We cannot claim that there are only 8 men own same wealth, because some other people, or others save money in bank, we cannot see their true money. But it is true to spread money for poor people, to have a fair living.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: SvenBomvolen on January 20, 2017, 03:07:44 AM
  I often think how much money I need to have to buy house on very nice place, new car, house on a see, and to have money for the rest of my life for food and other things. My calculations are on 1 million euros! Thats right with 1 million I can have all this! And I ask my self what can this men do with their billions? What? For what and for whom are they making that money? Stupid people, thats is what I think about them and I wonder how they can sleep at night. Cause of this 8 people and their followers kids die every day cause they dont have food and watter, and do I need to start talking about poverty in this world? Shame on them!
They are not interested in your opinion. They have completely different costs and completely different needs. For them your million euros is not money at all. For all this, they will not give you a penny because it contradicts their ideology.
 
   Please explain me why some rich person needs a house with 13 Bedrooms, 12 Bathrooms, 11 guestrooms? Is it interesting to take a poop in different bathroom each time? And sleep in different bed every night? This is just one example of their stupidity, and ah I to mention how in some restaurants Coca-Cola cost 10 $ or more, and in some it cost half a dollar, but people this people are paying to be seen.
   V1ryspro, your nickname is hard to wrote, and cause of people like you, so called supporters of this system nothing is changing, we are where we are, and I bet you are one of the people who wish big house with all this rooms, and million other things that you will not use but you will have them. But in grave we are going naked, nobody carries nothing there.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: basesaw on January 20, 2017, 03:12:50 AM
that's the reason why the world is imbalance. life is always unfair. they keep on recieving money but they dont give. maybe you would say that " that is business " but you know. just to balance the world if you have kind heart then you should give tot those who needed.

you should pay your employees proper and based on their talents and effort. we should not just pay them on what they dont deserve.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Gronthaing on January 20, 2017, 04:19:06 AM
8 people with the same wealth as 3500000000 people. Insane.

The system is rigged and nothing will happen until enough people are so deep in shit that they can't handle it anymore and the revolution begins.

That or the rich and powerful turn to fascism to stop people from fighting back. Why not? Has happened before. And they already support it in other countries when convenient for them. They will do the same to their country if it means they continue in power.

It has always been the same, and it will always be the same. Nobody will or can do shit about it.

Get hundreds of thousands or millions of people in the street calling for change. Start with getting money out of politics.

If that is true then I dont have problem with that so far they made their money and they are not stooping anyone from making his own.

That is part of the problem. They use their power and influence to make sure they stay ahead. No matter the cost to everyone else. Smoking causes cancer? Let's fund propaganda that says otherwise. Climate Change? No, that is just a conspiracy. The government doesn't let them form a monopoly or cartel? Bribe the politicians. Etc.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: onrise on January 20, 2017, 05:54:36 AM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 20, 2017, 11:22:57 AM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people

Can't agree with any such measure. Are you going to punish them for being able to make money? If you do so, then they will simply close their factories and stay at home. Millions of people will lose their jobs and the government will receive a much reduced tax revenue.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Klima on January 20, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people

Can't agree with any such measure. Are you going to punish them for being able to make money? If you do so, then they will simply close their factories and stay at home. Millions of people will lose their jobs and the government will receive a much reduced tax revenue.
The trouble is that usually such people do not pay taxes in full. An example of this Trump. He will now demand taxes from others if you do not pay them himself? The problem is that only the poor pay taxes.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Gronthaing on January 21, 2017, 03:26:40 AM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people

Can't agree with any such measure. Are you going to punish them for being able to make money? If you do so, then they will simply close their factories and stay at home. Millions of people will lose their jobs and the government will receive a much reduced tax revenue.

Doubt it. They won't stop and stay home because they would make a little less money. Didn't when the tax rate was up to 90% for the top bracket. But more important it's not shoveling billions or trillions of dollars into half a dozen guys that creates jobs. It's demand. It's having a functioning economy where people have enough money to spend and do so. That is a healthy economy. And not only do corporations and the rich evade taxes as others said but they are just sitting on trillions of dollars at the moment. That money could easily revitalize the economy and improve our lives if they invested it instead or it was taxed.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mainpmf on January 21, 2017, 01:22:47 PM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people

Can't agree with any such measure. Are you going to punish them for being able to make money? If you do so, then they will simply close their factories and stay at home. Millions of people will lose their jobs and the government will receive a much reduced tax revenue.
OMG just shut up and kill yourself stupid sheep ><
It's impossible to discuss with someone actually thinking that someone earning billions CAN DESERVE IT ><


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Klima on January 21, 2017, 01:34:11 PM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people

Can't agree with any such measure. Are you going to punish them for being able to make money? If you do so, then they will simply close their factories and stay at home. Millions of people will lose their jobs and the government will receive a much reduced tax revenue.
OMG just shut up and kill yourself stupid sheep ><
It's impossible to discuss with someone actually thinking that someone earning billions CAN DESERVE IT ><
I do not like those who earns a lot of money and spends it on their well-being. From them no good. In order to enrich themselves they take them from others. However, they are so because society allows them. Who is to blame?


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mainpmf on January 21, 2017, 01:40:12 PM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people

Can't agree with any such measure. Are you going to punish them for being able to make money? If you do so, then they will simply close their factories and stay at home. Millions of people will lose their jobs and the government will receive a much reduced tax revenue.
OMG just shut up and kill yourself stupid sheep ><
It's impossible to discuss with someone actually thinking that someone earning billions CAN DESERVE IT ><
I do not like those who earns a lot of money and spends it on their well-being. From them no good. In order to enrich themselves they take them from others. However, they are so because society allows them. Who is to blame?

Thank you this is interesting.
The question you added is the right one. Who is to blame? I would just add "what should be changed?"

Those people are only partly responsible that's for sure. The whole society is built in giving them more and more, they would have to make huge effort to change the society... Into a society less favorable to them. That's not logical ^^
So I'm not saying we should just kill them all sure... Those just living in this system well they did nothing wrong. Nothing good but nothing wrong.
Problem is that lots of them are using their power and wealth to continue abusing the system and transforming society into something more and more unequal.

And THAT is a crime.
A crime for which they should be punished.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Perle on January 21, 2017, 02:06:11 PM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people

Can't agree with any such measure. Are you going to punish them for being able to make money? If you do so, then they will simply close their factories and stay at home. Millions of people will lose their jobs and the government will receive a much reduced tax revenue.
OMG just shut up and kill yourself stupid sheep ><
It's impossible to discuss with someone actually thinking that someone earning billions CAN DESERVE IT ><
I do not like those who earns a lot of money and spends it on their well-being. From them no good. In order to enrich themselves they take them from others. However, they are so because society allows them. Who is to blame?

Thank you this is interesting.
The question you added is the right one. Who is to blame? I would just add "what should be changed?"

Those people are only partly responsible that's for sure. The whole society is built in giving them more and more, they would have to make huge effort to change the society... Into a society less favorable to them. That's not logical ^^
So I'm not saying we should just kill them all sure... Those just living in this system well they did nothing wrong. Nothing good but nothing wrong.
Problem is that lots of them are using their power and wealth to continue abusing the system and transforming society into something more and more unequal.

And THAT is a crime.
A crime for which they should be punished.
Unfortunately that peaceful means will not solve the problem. Once America was called a country with equal opportunities. Now it is not. Most of these 8 billionaires Americans. This means that they are simply monitoring the global financial flows.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: loreykyutt05 on January 21, 2017, 02:15:56 PM
This disparity is creating a lot of difference. There should be some extra taxes on such billionaires so that they can contribute extra to the welfare of the needy people

Can't agree with any such measure. Are you going to punish them for being able to make money? If you do so, then they will simply close their factories and stay at home. Millions of people will lose their jobs and the government will receive a much reduced tax revenue.
OMG just shut up and kill yourself stupid sheep ><
It's impossible to discuss with someone actually thinking that someone earning billions CAN DESERVE IT ><
I do not like those who earns a lot of money and spends it on their well-being. From them no good. In order to enrich themselves they take them from others. However, they are so because society allows them. Who is to blame?

Thank you this is interesting.
The question you added is the right one. Who is to blame? I would just add "what should be changed?"

Those people are only partly responsible that's for sure. The whole society is built in giving them more and more, they would have to make huge effort to change the society... Into a society less favorable to them. That's not logical ^^
So I'm not saying we should just kill them all sure... Those just living in this system well they did nothing wrong. Nothing good but nothing wrong.
Problem is that lots of them are using their power and wealth to continue abusing the system and transforming society into something more and more unequal.

And THAT is a crime.
A crime for which they should be punished.
Unfortunately that peaceful means will not solve the problem. Once America was called a country with equal opportunities. Now it is not. Most of these 8 billionaires Americans. This means that they are simply monitoring the global financial flows.
We all cannot assure that there were only 8 men that are wealth, but instead of knowing this, you must only go inspired with this. We can see if you can belong with these 8 people. We cannot see all those others who is not belong with this 8, but we must open our eyes to see what is the truth


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Idrisu on January 21, 2017, 02:57:37 PM
Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world

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Eight men own the same wealth as the 3.6 billion people who make up the poorest half of humanity, according to a new report published by Oxfam today to mark the annual meeting of political and business leaders in Davos.

Oxfam’s report, ‘An economy for the 99 percent’, shows that the gap between rich and poor is far greater than had been feared. It details how big business and the super-rich are fuelling the inequality crisis by dodging taxes, driving down wages and using their power to influence politics. It calls for a fundamental change in the way we manage our economies so that they work for all people, and not just a fortunate few.

New and better data on the distribution of global wealth – particularly in India and China – indicates that the poorest half of the world has less wealth than had been previously thought.  Had this new data been available last year, it would have shown that nine billionaires owned the same wealth as the poorest half of the planet, and not 62, as Oxfam calculated at the time.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2017-01-16/just-8-men-own-same-wealth-half-world (https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2017-01-16/just-8-men-own-same-wealth-half-world)
If eight people has hold the same wealth poor people has on earth is a great inequality. What this means if it true is there will ever be war on earth. The poor masses' has been brain wash by the social media, radio and tv that they arm are the reason there is Government but in this report I think it is better we should not have Government. Leaders all over the world are pulpy to the wealthiest of the earth. The Rothschild control 95% of the central and treasure house around the world. Most war been fight on earth today is for the evils interest of those evil man to keep their fellow human beings in forever slavery and poverty. God is watching us.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 21, 2017, 04:16:10 PM
If eight people has hold the same wealth poor people has on earth is a great inequality. What this means if it true is there will ever be war on earth. The poor masses' has been brain wash by the social media, radio and tv that they arm are the reason there is Government but in this report I think it is better we should not have Government. Leaders all over the world are pulpy to the wealthiest of the earth. The Rothschild control 95% of the central and treasure house around the world. Most war been fight on earth today is for the evils interest of those evil man to keep their fellow human beings in forever slavery and poverty. God is watching us.

The poor people remain in poverty, because they give more importance to producing children than education. Take the Philippines for example. The Catholic church has banned family planning in that country. As a result, there are more than 100 million people living in tiny crowded islands. The population is fed by the remittance sent by the migrant workers.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: craked5 on January 21, 2017, 05:44:35 PM
If eight people has hold the same wealth poor people has on earth is a great inequality. What this means if it true is there will ever be war on earth. The poor masses' has been brain wash by the social media, radio and tv that they arm are the reason there is Government but in this report I think it is better we should not have Government. Leaders all over the world are pulpy to the wealthiest of the earth. The Rothschild control 95% of the central and treasure house around the world. Most war been fight on earth today is for the evils interest of those evil man to keep their fellow human beings in forever slavery and poverty. God is watching us.

The poor people remain in poverty, because they give more importance to producing children than education. Take the Philippines for example. The Catholic church has banned family planning in that country. As a result, there are more than 100 million people living in tiny crowded islands. The population is fed by the remittance sent by the migrant workers.

Damn man, you understand that everytime you write something the whole forum loses IQ points? :/

That's incredible how you put the blame on individuals and not on systems and institutions... Like someone who was never taught about contraception in a country where contraception is NOT free NOT available everywhere and NOT culturally admitted, is to be blamed for not using it...


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: ovvidiy on January 21, 2017, 06:17:37 PM
If eight people has hold the same wealth poor people has on earth is a great inequality. What this means if it true is there will ever be war on earth. The poor masses' has been brain wash by the social media, radio and tv that they arm are the reason there is Government but in this report I think it is better we should not have Government. Leaders all over the world are pulpy to the wealthiest of the earth. The Rothschild control 95% of the central and treasure house around the world. Most war been fight on earth today is for the evils interest of those evil man to keep their fellow human beings in forever slavery and poverty. God is watching us.

The poor people remain in poverty, because they give more importance to producing children than education. Take the Philippines for example. The Catholic church has banned family planning in that country. As a result, there are more than 100 million people living in tiny crowded islands. The population is fed by the remittance sent by the migrant workers.
It seems to me that not all the fault of the Church. The poorer the country the less educated people and the more children they have. They have no purpose in life. Children mi is necessary as slaves. Girls are sold into sexual slavery and the boys support their families.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: craked5 on January 21, 2017, 06:22:55 PM
If eight people has hold the same wealth poor people has on earth is a great inequality. What this means if it true is there will ever be war on earth. The poor masses' has been brain wash by the social media, radio and tv that they arm are the reason there is Government but in this report I think it is better we should not have Government. Leaders all over the world are pulpy to the wealthiest of the earth. The Rothschild control 95% of the central and treasure house around the world. Most war been fight on earth today is for the evils interest of those evil man to keep their fellow human beings in forever slavery and poverty. God is watching us.

The poor people remain in poverty, because they give more importance to producing children than education. Take the Philippines for example. The Catholic church has banned family planning in that country. As a result, there are more than 100 million people living in tiny crowded islands. The population is fed by the remittance sent by the migrant workers.
It seems to me that not all the fault of the Church. The poorer the country the less educated people and the more children they have. They have no purpose in life. Children mi is necessary as slaves. Girls are sold into sexual slavery and the boys support their families.
Not all.
They just help misery to spread.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: RealBitcoin on January 22, 2017, 12:16:52 AM
It's a medieval economy, ffs, with aristocrats and royalties. Democracy is a joke, we actually live in aristocracy.

All the renessaince and enlightenment age is fading away and we are going into barbarous dark ages, where brutality increases again.

WTF is happening in europe, what is all that fucking violence? It's just horible.



Wealth inequality is just 1 sympthom, but the violence is the other, people are very violent these days. Why???



People must become civilized now, and give up this violent bullshit.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: grermezter on January 22, 2017, 09:41:04 PM
Well i will say the earn their money no two ways about it, They worked hard and thought deep.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mainpmf on January 22, 2017, 10:39:16 PM
It's a medieval economy, ffs, with aristocrats and royalties. Democracy is a joke, we actually live in aristocracy.

All the renessaince and enlightenment age is fading away and we are going into barbarous dark ages, where brutality increases again.

WTF is happening in europe, what is all that fucking violence? It's just horible.

Wealth inequality is just 1 sympthom, but the violence is the other, people are very violent these days. Why???

People must become civilized now, and give up this violent bullshit.

Yup indeed.
First step would be to stop attacking random countries I'd say xD

And most important would probably to reach for democracy....
As you said we don't have anything close to that, but it doesn't mean I can't create one :)


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 23, 2017, 10:04:43 AM
It seems to me that not all the fault of the Church. The poorer the country the less educated people and the more children they have. They have no purpose in life. Children mi is necessary as slaves. Girls are sold into sexual slavery and the boys support their families.

I can't agree with your post. Moldova is one of the poorest countries in the world. And the birth rate is also one of the lowest in the world. The same goes for a few other countries such as Ukraine and North Korea. On the other hand, the world's richest country (Qatar) is also having one of the highest birth rates in the world (3.59 children per woman).


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: RealBitcoin on January 23, 2017, 11:13:22 AM
It's a medieval economy, ffs, with aristocrats and royalties. Democracy is a joke, we actually live in aristocracy.

All the renessaince and enlightenment age is fading away and we are going into barbarous dark ages, where brutality increases again.

WTF is happening in europe, what is all that fucking violence? It's just horible.

Wealth inequality is just 1 sympthom, but the violence is the other, people are very violent these days. Why???

People must become civilized now, and give up this violent bullshit.

Yup indeed.
First step would be to stop attacking random countries I'd say xD

And most important would probably to reach for democracy....
As you said we don't have anything close to that, but it doesn't mean I can't create one :)

Who will do it? And why would a democracy be better than what we have now?

If dumb people let this thing happen as it is now, then what makes you think, that suddenly if everyone had a voice, things will be better? Because it will be the same dumb people voting, who let this happen.

I start to think that humanity is un-saveable, because all evil things have been done with the consent of dumb people.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mainpmf on January 23, 2017, 03:32:24 PM
It's a medieval economy, ffs, with aristocrats and royalties. Democracy is a joke, we actually live in aristocracy.

All the renessaince and enlightenment age is fading away and we are going into barbarous dark ages, where brutality increases again.

WTF is happening in europe, what is all that fucking violence? It's just horible.

Wealth inequality is just 1 sympthom, but the violence is the other, people are very violent these days. Why???

People must become civilized now, and give up this violent bullshit.

Yup indeed.
First step would be to stop attacking random countries I'd say xD

And most important would probably to reach for democracy....
As you said we don't have anything close to that, but it doesn't mean I can't create one :)

Who will do it? And why would a democracy be better than what we have now?
Who? Well seems like the only one having interest in a democracy would be the people. It has to come from the people because no aristocracy would want a real democracy.

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If dumb people let this thing happen as it is now, then what makes you think, that suddenly if everyone had a voice, things will be better? Because it will be the same dumb people voting, who let this happen.

I start to think that humanity is un-saveable, because all evil things have been done with the consent of dumb people.

No, what was evil was not made with the consent of dumb people but with their inaction.
It's not that people are dumb, it's that they have been educated into stupid beings without any critical thinking.

A true direct democracy would give a lot of power to everyone.
First advantage: no longer corruption and manipulation by the elites. You can corrup 100 deputies, you can't corrup 100millions citizens. Just that would make everything SO BETTER
Second advantage: people would start being interested and learn from politics.
You got majority of people who don't care about politics because they think they can't change anything.

Start giving them power and they'll start thinking about it ;)


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: RealBitcoin on January 23, 2017, 03:44:56 PM

Who? Well seems like the only one having interest in a democracy would be the people. It has to come from the people because no aristocracy would want a real democracy.


The people are too dumb. Most people dont even know how to read and write, how do you expect things from these people?





No, what was evil was not made with the consent of dumb people but with their inaction.
It's not that people are dumb, it's that they have been educated into stupid beings without any critical thinking.

A true direct democracy would give a lot of power to everyone.
First advantage: no longer corruption and manipulation by the elites. You can corrup 100 deputies, you can't corrup 100millions citizens. Just that would make everything SO BETTER
Second advantage: people would start being interested and learn from politics.
You got majority of people who don't care about politics because they think they can't change anything.

Start giving them power and they'll start thinking about it Wink


I am pretty sure people did love Stalin and Hitler back then, everyone cheered for them, and look what happened!

No people are dumb morons. No amount of education will help this.

You can corrupt 100 million people by giving them welfare, of course you can. It's not like average people are angels.

What makes you think that the averagr guy on the street is anything better than the elite? If he were in his position, he would be exactly the same.

People are dumb and evil, get used to it.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mainpmf on January 23, 2017, 03:54:36 PM
I am pretty sure people did love Stalin and Hitler back then, everyone cheered for them, and look what happened!

No people are dumb morons. No amount of education will help this.

You can corrupt 100 million people by giving them welfare, of course you can. It's not like average people are angels.

What makes you think that the averagr guy on the street is anything better than the elite? If he were in his position, he would be exactly the same.

People are dumb and evil, get used to it.

But you are not?
Wahou, glad to know everyone is dumb and evil but YOU ARE NOT and the best is that it's not even thanks to education!
Incredible, how can you be so gifted? :D

Idiot. Arrogant idiot.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: basesaw on January 23, 2017, 05:01:20 PM
it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

having a lots of children is not resulting for a poverty. on the early 70's many families have greater than 7 children. but you cant say that they are poor. having a lot of children will not lead you to poverty. being lazy will. even if you have many children but you can manage to educate them all, theres no problem. the thing that leads us to sucess is wisdom and being wise.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mainpmf on January 23, 2017, 10:57:06 PM
it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

having a lots of children is not resulting for a poverty. on the early 70's many families have greater than 7 children. but you cant say that they are poor. having a lot of children will not lead you to poverty. being lazy will. even if you have many children but you can manage to educate them all, theres no problem. the thing that leads us to sucess is wisdom and being wise.
Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: RealBitcoin on January 24, 2017, 05:48:55 AM


But you are not?
Wahou, glad to know everyone is dumb and evil but YOU ARE NOT and the best is that it's not even thanks to education!
Incredible, how can you be so gifted? :D

Idiot. Arrogant idiot.


Maybe I am dumb in certain fields (math, physics, chemistry, biology...)


But I am already way beyond other people, in terms of knowing about society and the world. I had a bad education, I had to learn pretty much everything the hard way, on my own.


It's not that I'm gifted, I just use common sense, and try to avoid emotional manipulation. It's the other people who lack these skills. (like you)


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 24, 2017, 07:06:37 AM
Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

It is the combination of laziness and religious indoctrination, which creates poverty. There are a lot of people around us, who became super-rich as a result of their hard work. Many of them were born in poor families. For example, Howard Schultz grew up in a government subsidized apartment complex for the poor.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: canah17 on January 24, 2017, 01:02:06 PM
Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world

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Eight men own the same wealth as the 3.6 billion people who make up the poorest half of humanity, according to a new report published by Oxfam today to mark the annual meeting of political and business leaders in Davos.

Oxfam’s report, ‘An economy for the 99 percent’, shows that the gap between rich and poor is far greater than had been feared. It details how big business and the super-rich are fuelling the inequality crisis by dodging taxes, driving down wages and using their power to influence politics. It calls for a fundamental change in the way we manage our economies so that they work for all people, and not just a fortunate few.

New and better data on the distribution of global wealth – particularly in India and China – indicates that the poorest half of the world has less wealth than had been previously thought.  Had this new data been available last year, it would have shown that nine billionaires owned the same wealth as the poorest half of the planet, and not 62, as Oxfam calculated at the time.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2017-01-16/just-8-men-own-same-wealth-half-world (https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/pressreleases/2017-01-16/just-8-men-own-same-wealth-half-world)

But the poor's are too many to handle, i am really impress on what they have done but really they can't many countries are living in a poor life but its okay because we have a fair world to live in but money cannot solve the poor people its their choice of life money can't buy you happiness you know :) poor people tend to be poor because they like it but still its a hard life puberty is the main source of being poor having more children and get pregnant on an early age >.< its the government that will solve the poor not money >.<


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: darklus123 on January 24, 2017, 01:19:55 PM
I havent read the article yet but i have probably predicted that bill gates was on the top and then the founder of google larry and facebook i supposed to be part of it as well. More than that i see nothing wrong about it they earned it in the first place anyways


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: LonelyPrince on January 24, 2017, 02:16:17 PM
this situation is gonna change soon by virtue of Bitcoin expansion


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: craked5 on January 24, 2017, 03:18:11 PM
Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

It is the combination of laziness and religious indoctrination, which creates poverty. There are a lot of people around us, who became super-rich as a result of their hard work. Many of them were born in poor families. For example, Howard Schultz grew up in a government subsidized apartment complex for the poor.
So it would mean that welfare actually helps people accomplishing themselves? ;D


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mainpmf on January 24, 2017, 05:39:44 PM
Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

It is the combination of laziness and religious indoctrination, which creates poverty. There are a lot of people around us, who became super-rich as a result of their hard work. Many of them were born in poor families. For example, Howard Schultz grew up in a government subsidized apartment complex for the poor.

No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: DrPepperJC on January 24, 2017, 06:25:44 PM
Statistically it's not being lazy that makes you poor, it's coming from a poor family.

It is the combination of laziness and religious indoctrination, which creates poverty. There are a lot of people around us, who became super-rich as a result of their hard work. Many of them were born in poor families. For example, Howard Schultz grew up in a government subsidized apartment complex for the poor.

No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.
I agree with you. But not only money makes born in rich families to earn more income. There is still a connection. They agree among themselves and where the ordinary person does not earn the money they earn millions.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: craked5 on January 24, 2017, 08:23:31 PM
I agree with you. But not only money makes born in rich families to earn more income. There is still a connection. They agree among themselves and where the ordinary person does not earn the money they earn millions.

Yeah even without taking into account the social aspect with education or things like that, the social groups are important!

It's so much easier to earn money when your dad is the boss of a big company...
You get everything you need. Internships, jobs, studies, formations...

It doesn't mean you didn't earn the money, it's just SO MUCH EASIER for you...


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Mitcsell on January 24, 2017, 08:45:44 PM
I agree with you. But not only money makes born in rich families to earn more income. There is still a connection. They agree among themselves and where the ordinary person does not earn the money they earn millions.

Yeah even without taking into account the social aspect with education or things like that, the social groups are important!

It's so much easier to earn money when your dad is the boss of a big company...
You get everything you need. Internships, jobs, studies, formations...

It doesn't mean you didn't earn the money, it's just SO MUCH EASIER for you...
Even if your ideas are no investors then your relative who owns a big company will provide you the investor and assistance in the implementation of the project. Therefore, people are not equal initially.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 25, 2017, 04:30:22 AM
No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.

IMO, the education must be 100% free, up to the University level. In addition to that, the students must get reimbursement for their conveyance and food/stationary expenses. This will help the poor people to grab more opportunities.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mainpmf on January 25, 2017, 09:12:31 AM
No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.

IMO, the education must be 100% free, up to the University level. In addition to that, the students must get reimbursement for their conveyance and food/stationary expenses. This will help the poor people to grab more opportunities.

WHAT? But...
But...

Weren't you one of those idiot conservatives who think we should all pay everything for ourselves and there should be no taxes and all?
Well I might have confused you with another member but I was pretty sure you were one of those idiots...
My bad though.

Indeed free education is a mandatory step to a developed and rather equal society.
I don't know what I would have become in a USA-kind of country when only the rich can go to university :/


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Mitcsell on January 25, 2017, 09:24:21 AM
No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.

IMO, the education must be 100% free, up to the University level. In addition to that, the students must get reimbursement for their conveyance and food/stationary expenses. This will help the poor people to grab more opportunities.
It seems to me that education and not only it may not be free. I do believe that everything that comes for free it is not valued. Another thing is that it should be paid from different sources, and perhaps a loan.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: darklus123 on January 25, 2017, 09:30:43 AM
No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.

IMO, the education must be 100% free, up to the University level. In addition to that, the students must get reimbursement for their conveyance and food/stationary expenses. This will help the poor people to grab more opportunities.
It seems to me that education and not only it may not be free. I do believe that everything that comes for free it is not valued. Another thing is that it should be paid from different sources, and perhaps a loan.

You are going too far from the subject lol. They are the richest because they have the capabilities to become and they do it with harwork. Being poor or rich doesn't matter however they are i guess all from a first world country which means the probability of becoming this rich is also higher than other countries because they have the technologies and better system as well.

 I also assumed that most of the top 8 was living on the silicon valley right now where tech companies(largest) were at.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Mitcsell on January 25, 2017, 09:40:21 AM
No.
Most of them come from very wealthy families, at least rich enough to pay them the best education.
You don't become poor because you're lazy. You become poor because you were born poor AND you don't have enough will, work, education and luck to become rich.

IMO, the education must be 100% free, up to the University level. In addition to that, the students must get reimbursement for their conveyance and food/stationary expenses. This will help the poor people to grab more opportunities.
It seems to me that education and not only it may not be free. I do believe that everything that comes for free it is not valued. Another thing is that it should be paid from different sources, and perhaps a loan.

You are going too far from the subject lol. They are the richest because they have the capabilities to become and they do it with harwork. Being poor or rich doesn't matter however they are i guess all from a first world country which means the probability of becoming this rich is also higher than other countries because they have the technologies and better system as well.

 I also assumed that most of the top 8 was living on the silicon valley right now where tech companies(largest) were at.
What does silicon valley? View the full list of the richest people. Most of these people have no relation to new technologies. It's the financiers. They simply speculate on the financial market. They are parasites.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: darklus123 on January 25, 2017, 09:43:46 AM

What does silicon valley? View the full list of the richest people. Most of these people have no relation to new technologies. It's the financiers. They simply speculate on the financial market. They are parasites.

That is the place where most of the biggest tech companies are operating. Lol seriously?  Of course do you know bill gates? the founder of microsoft?(which is an obvious tech? do you know marK? the founder of fb? and larry the founder of google?) both of those are probably part of the 8 men and they are all a founder of a tech company so obviously Tech are taking a huge part of becoming rich


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: bitbunnni on January 25, 2017, 11:36:57 AM

What does silicon valley? View the full list of the richest people. Most of these people have no relation to new technologies. It's the financiers. They simply speculate on the financial market. They are parasites.

That is the place where most of the biggest tech companies are operating. Lol seriously?  Of course do you know bill gates? the founder of microsoft?(which is an obvious tech? do you know marK? the founder of fb? and larry the founder of google?) both of those are probably part of the 8 men and they are all a founder of a tech company so obviously Tech are taking a huge part of becoming rich
What good is produced by Microsoft? Windows really is not the best operating system. Just due to the fact that bill gates had the advantage due to the fact that he was now cornered the market and will not allow to competitors.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: darklus123 on January 25, 2017, 02:30:56 PM

What does silicon valley? View the full list of the richest people. Most of these people have no relation to new technologies. It's the financiers. They simply speculate on the financial market. They are parasites.

That is the place where most of the biggest tech companies are operating. Lol seriously?  Of course do you know bill gates? the founder of microsoft?(which is an obvious tech? do you know marK? the founder of fb? and larry the founder of google?) both of those are probably part of the 8 men and they are all a founder of a tech company so obviously Tech are taking a huge part of becoming rich
What good is produced by Microsoft? Windows really is not the best operating system. Just due to the fact that bill gates had the advantage due to the fact that he was now cornered the market and will not allow to competitors.

Lol, If microsoft isn't good they are not operating in the market right now. Other thing is that if you are from the It industry you would really know why bill gates was the richest person in the world right now. Well, you maybe are right but still microsoft was one of the leading brand right in the industry


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 25, 2017, 04:45:20 PM
What good is produced by Microsoft? Windows really is not the best operating system. Just due to the fact that bill gates had the advantage due to the fact that he was now cornered the market and will not allow to competitors.

Windows may not be the best operating system, but their support service is the best. Also, the other operating systems (especially Linux) is not compatible with most of the software and PC games. What is the use in having a computer, if you are unable to use any software? Also, I can't blame Windows for this. There are thousands of Linux versions, and software which is compatible in one version may not be compatible in another.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: darklus123 on January 25, 2017, 05:54:23 PM
What good is produced by Microsoft? Windows really is not the best operating system. Just due to the fact that bill gates had the advantage due to the fact that he was now cornered the market and will not allow to competitors.

Windows may not be the best operating system, but their support service is the best. Also, the other operating systems (especially Linux) is not compatible with most of the software and PC games. What is the use in having a computer, if you are unable to use any software? Also, I can't blame Windows for this. There are thousands of Linux versions, and software which is compatible in one version may not be compatible in another.

Exactly, i don't know if what type of user he is but usually a normal person is satisfied with the microsoft OS and aside from that they are widely known as well for their ms office it is i guess the most widely used editing type. They have actually a good products and that is why they are still on the market right now as well as the founder.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: n691309 on January 26, 2017, 11:07:23 PM
I haven't researched about this case but if this is true then I can say that if the money would be spread to all people in the world then there would not be poor or rich people and all would be considered equal. World populations is estimated to 7 billion so those 8 men are as rich as 3.5 billion people in the world.

We all citizens must know about this research, but we must know if it is only a research or it is not a fact. We cannot claim that there are only 8 men own same wealth, because some other people, or others save money in bank, we cannot see their true money. But it is true to spread money for poor people, to have a fair living.

It doesn't have to be all money on the bank because they charge fees (or these people get interest leaving their money there) and there is a high risk that if these people do something that government don't like then the government can close or freeze their bank accounts and their money could not me spend. Tech companies are rich too, check microsoft apple or facebook, they are damn too rich.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 27, 2017, 05:02:57 PM
Exactly, i don't know if what type of user he is but usually a normal person is satisfied with the microsoft OS and aside from that they are widely known as well for their ms office it is i guess the most widely used editing type. They have actually a good products and that is why they are still on the market right now as well as the founder.

I have used various operating systems including Windows, IOS, Fedora, and Ubuntu. I found Windows the most user friendly. For tech savvy people, Ubuntu may be better, but the vast majority of the remainder is going to chose Windows.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: funkenstein on January 30, 2017, 10:13:14 PM
Exactly, i don't know if what type of user he is but usually a normal person is satisfied with the microsoft OS and aside from that they are widely known as well for their ms office it is i guess the most widely used editing type. They have actually a good products and that is why they are still on the market right now as well as the founder.

I have used various operating systems including Windows, IOS, Fedora, and Ubuntu. I found Windows the most user friendly. For tech savvy people, Ubuntu may be better, but the vast majority of the remainder is going to chose Windows.

This is quite an outlier case.  I've never seen a client wish to return to a windows environment after having a non-backdoored system, mostly just because it winds up being faster and easier to use.  This is for folks of little to no technical ability. 

People "choose" windows because it comes preinstalled and nobody has told them a much easier and more functional option exists.  Who would tell them?  There's no advertising or company to say anything.  You have to be lucky enough to have somebody in your life who knows something about computers. 


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Losvienleg on January 30, 2017, 10:20:55 PM
Not reason to envy them, as because first this is a sin, and because this money did not fall from the sky (except maybe for Middle-Eastern princes, whom money rise from the soil). All of them had a genius though, or their father had it. Thus, they merit their money.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 31, 2017, 03:57:47 AM
Not reason to envy them, as because first this is a sin, and because this money did not fall from the sky (except maybe for Middle-Eastern princes, whom money rise from the soil). All of them had a genius though, or their father had it. Thus, they merit their money.

Yes. That is the point. But the socialists want their wealth to be confiscated and distributed to the slum dwellers. It never work. The same tactic was tried in countries such as Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea. Look at the state of these countries now.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: darklus123 on January 31, 2017, 05:07:51 AM
Exactly, i don't know if what type of user he is but usually a normal person is satisfied with the microsoft OS and aside from that they are widely known as well for their ms office it is i guess the most widely used editing type. They have actually a good products and that is why they are still on the market right now as well as the founder.

I have used various operating systems including Windows, IOS, Fedora, and Ubuntu. I found Windows the most user friendly. For tech savvy people, Ubuntu may be better, but the vast majority of the remainder is going to chose Windows.

This is quite an outlier case.  I've never seen a client wish to return to a windows environment after having a non-backdoored system, mostly just because it winds up being faster and easier to use.  This is for folks of little to no technical ability. 

People "choose" windows because it comes preinstalled and nobody has told them a much easier and more functional option exists.  Who would tell them?  There's no advertising or company to say anything.  You have to be lucky enough to have somebody in your life who knows something about computers. 

Well, that was before however now i can see most of the computers being sold in our place has now a Ubuntu linux operating system. Yet people still wants to reformat it becausw they use to it and you are right this is good for not on the development side of the computer


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: sotisoti on January 31, 2017, 05:14:14 AM
I don't envy because everyone will die empty-handed...


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on January 31, 2017, 06:31:15 AM
I don't envy because everyone will die empty-handed...

What is the problem with that? They will enjoy a life of luxury, dining out in the finest restaurants, sipping super-expensive wine. They will be able to access the most advanced healthcare treatment and will live to an average age of 90 to 100 years.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: sotisoti on January 31, 2017, 06:45:02 AM
I don't envy because everyone will die empty-handed...

What is the problem with that? They will enjoy a life of luxury, dining out in the finest restaurants, sipping super-expensive wine. They will be able to access the most advanced healthcare treatment and will live to an average age of 90 to 100 years.
No problem at all, they live their lives the way they want. Like I said, idk......


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: darklus123 on January 31, 2017, 01:13:23 PM
I don't envy because everyone will die empty-handed...

Well, still for now you are at some point in which you envy them even a little. Unless you are some sort of a rich person as well (then envying them won't be atleast an option) but if you are just like us making small time earnings just to live then probably envying sometimes are part of our life. Tho we can achive that one as well in god's will


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: loyalsenok2012 on March 21, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
These people worked very hard and their condition is the result of their labors. We need to take an example from them. You can not approach the ocean of possibilities with a teaspoon and be content with the small when the whole world is at your feet.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Chikito on March 21, 2017, 08:09:42 PM

it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They are poor because they were producing dozens of children each, rather than concentrating on education. Even if the super-rich donates a part of their fortune to these people, they will return to poverty after a short while. There is only one permanent method to end poverty - family planning.

Oh ok, this dumb...
Sure sure sure, I mean clearly if there is not a single Kenyan who's a billionaire, it's just because they chose to not work and study at school. Clearly it's THEIR fault, we were all born equal and those are just stupid enough to go up.
You're ignored, I'm tired of your stupidity. You don't deserve anything but to go back to school...

for anyone?, we are born equally be human but inequality of education and human resources to educate very much different. I once read a book from Paolo Freire, education that can be understood by means of dialogue, and try to teach appropriate that is around, no to memorize and save the science in the brain like style savings in Bank, because neurosis  bring up memories randomly. Bitcointalk such as forums, we discuss to determine and finalize a conservative paradigm, providing information about cryptocurrency and information politic & society on subforum. whereas you garbage postmodernism, can only judge without giving good advice. I'm going back to school, but my school does not have a concrete building, and the enemy is the best teacher :-).


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Tyrantt on March 21, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
Well what else would you do if you had that amount of money than earning more money... TBH i have no problem with them owning that much of a wealth, tho it's mostly possible that they weren't doing that clear of business, they've invested, risked and earned. When I hear people crying about topics like these, they're mostly commies...


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Janation on March 21, 2017, 09:00:49 PM
Not all of these kind of man are in the place where they started to rugs. Some of them, or maybe most of them really has a good and rich families at that time making good money from the companies. And reading that 9 billionaires are holding money the same as the half of the poorest of the planet, that is really unfortunate.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on March 22, 2017, 01:24:23 AM
First of all, the statement by Oxfam is a blatant lie, and they are distorting the facts. But I am not surprised, as the liberal media outlets never tell the truth. They have made their statement, to sound like "8 men own half of all the wealth", which is false (they own around 0.1%).


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: criptix on March 26, 2017, 11:49:55 PM
First of all, the statement by Oxfam is a blatant lie, and they are distorting the facts. But I am not surprised, as the liberal media outlets never tell the truth. They have made their statement, to sound like "8 men own half of all the wealth", which is false (they own around 0.1%).

What? The reports starts with the main message:

Quote
Eight men own the same wealth as the 3.6 billion people who make up the poorest half of humanity,

How the hell are you able to misread this except you only read the title ::)


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on March 27, 2017, 04:48:42 AM
These people worked very hard and their condition is the result of their labors. We need to take an example from them. You can not approach the ocean of possibilities with a teaspoon and be content with the small when the whole world is at your feet.

Yes. Some of these inherited their wealth, but most of them worked hard to become rich. You need a combination of luck and hard work to become rich. Only 0.0000001% of the people will be blessed with this unique combination.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: squatz1 on March 27, 2017, 02:02:41 PM
The problem with a lot of this money is that it's all on paper, it can't be liqudiated and if the people who owned shares of the companies tries to liquidate their shares in the portfolio of companies they own it would cause an insane amount of panic. Causing the share price to plummet and their wealth to decrease -- unless people were buying all these shares up at market price.

First of all, the statement by Oxfam is a blatant lie, and they are distorting the facts. But I am not surprised, as the liberal media outlets never tell the truth. They have made their statement, to sound like "8 men own half of all the wealth", which is false (they own around 0.1%).

This too, welcome to the MSM and what they try to do in order to paint a horrible picture to the rich and the elite in the countries in a way to get people to turn against them. Always bothers me that companies do this that are owned by the elite too-- like aren't you being counterproductive.

And anyway, so what?


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: santaclaws on March 27, 2017, 08:11:28 PM
it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They should stop making babies.. Don't ya think?


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: rupertrufers on March 27, 2017, 08:25:24 PM
The problem with these types of people is that they slow the velocity of money.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Sithara007 on March 28, 2017, 02:16:34 AM
it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They should stop making babies.. Don't ya think?

Your post may be sarcastic, but in reality this is the best solution. Look at Sub Saharan Africa. The people are having 10-15 children each, and then they ask the Western nations to send them food aid saying that they can't feed their children.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: mastermold on March 28, 2017, 03:28:01 PM
looking at the 8 people at the top should restore faith in humanity. They are not royals nor having great hereditary wealth. Almost all of them built from scratch. They were all stories of entrepreneurship. All of them were first generation entrepreneurs [at that scale].

While Buffett and Slim were beneficiaries of business minded parents, the others were stories of great struggle of people with no business background building first generation enterprises. Some were sons of book keepers, railway workers, lawyers and dentists. Others like Bezos and Ellison [like Jobs] endured tumultuous childhood due to unprepared/unqualified biological parents.

They all depict human struggle and the will to overpower them. A large chunk of these guys are great philanthropists who gave away far, far more wealth than their critics had seconds in their life.

In short, there is nothing obscene or scary or wrong about it.


Title: Re: Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world
Post by: Kobalt on March 28, 2017, 03:40:24 PM
it is true only 8 richest man, and there are a quarter people on earth who live in poverty.

They should stop making babies.. Don't ya think?

Your post may be sarcastic, but in reality this is the best solution. Look at Sub Saharan Africa. The people are having 10-15 children each, and then they ask the Western nations to send them food aid saying that they can't feed their children.
A lot of refugees now hide behind children to get an allowance and a residence permit in Europe. I believe that their assistance to such people the West is provoking the growth of such dependents.