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Title: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: mikehersh2 on January 20, 2017, 01:21:16 PM
I recently got a pretty powerful laptop with a 1060 gpu, but mining on it turns close to no profit, and overheats the device. Im looking to start mining for fun, but dont want to invest too much money. Therefore using a USB miner seems like the perfect option. However, will mining with a usb miner on my laptop still damage and overheat my PC?


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: JoelKatz on January 20, 2017, 01:22:10 PM
Not if you connect the miner to a powered hub that's plugged into a wall socket. But you will still lose money, sadly.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: lordquanta on January 20, 2017, 02:29:14 PM
I recently got a pretty powerful laptop with a 1060 gpu, but mining on it turns close to no profit, and overheats the device. Im looking to start mining for fun, but dont want to invest too much money. Therefore using a USB miner seems like the perfect option. However, will mining with a usb miner on my laptop still damage and overheat my PC?

Laptop for mining was definitely not good idea. Looking at the current difficulty level and overall volume, mining with proper bitcoin miners-hardware are best suited for cause. I would suggest to check the mining[1] section of this forum. You would get better answers there.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=14.40 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=14.40)


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: RodeoX on January 20, 2017, 02:34:40 PM
I would say it depends. Does your laptop look like this?  :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrxyUeUCUAASNcy.jpg

Sorry man, you are years too late to mine with a laptop.



Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: Rude Boy on January 20, 2017, 03:15:13 PM
May be you can earn as well as learn about mining if you try some newly arrived altcoins. Still better, don't try mining with your lap and as above said, you messy try with power hubs!


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: kolloh on January 20, 2017, 04:05:51 PM
Yeah, mining simply isn't worth it at this point unless you have dedicated hardware such as ASICs and cheap power. Mining on a laptop is a sure fire way to overheat and damage the laptop. And a USB miner will be quite slow at mining and you'll likely end up losing money anyhow. Not worth the hassle.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: mikehersh2 on January 20, 2017, 04:27:44 PM
I would say it depends. Does your laptop look like this?  :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrxyUeUCUAASNcy.jpg

Sorry man, you are years too late to mine with a laptop.


I'm not looking to make a living, quite funny though. But im just looking for some extra momey, even $4 a day is plenty.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: longbob72 on January 20, 2017, 04:52:58 PM
I'm not looking to make a living, quite funny though. But im just looking for some extra momey, even $4 a day is plenty.

That 4$ a day won't mean a thing if your laptop breaks a week later.
That's what people keep forgetting (from what I see), laptops breaks easily and not very easy to repair.

Edit:
Or if you're talking about bitcoin mining... Don't even try it with laptop or even a high spec PC.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: alh on January 20, 2017, 05:41:16 PM
Just to put things in perspective, at the current difficulty and BTC price, you'll need about 6 TH/sec (Terahash, aka 6000 GH) to produce $4 per day. That also assumes your electricity is free and you are willing to run whatever hardware you have flat out, 24/7.

None of the above even remotely fits a laptop. It cannot even hit 1/10000 of the hashrate, and it's not built for 24/7 operation flat out. Laptops do short bursts of computation just fine, but not several minutes, much less hours all day. Attempting this will produce literally nothing in terms of BTC, and will shorten the life of you laptop significantly. A desktop might not have it's life shortened a lot, but it's still woefully underpowered.

Read lots of the threads here to see what you actually need if you want to mine BTC.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: RodeoX on January 20, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
I would say it depends. Does your laptop look like this?  :D

[img] (big picture) [/ img]

Sorry man, you are years too late to mine with a laptop.


I'm not looking to make a living, quite funny though. But im just looking for some extra momey, even $4 a day is plenty.
Sorry, I was being silly. But in all seriousness it would be hard to make any profit at this time with a normal computer. You could join a mining pool and combine your computing power with others, but you may just burn out your laptop for a few bucks. Literally a few bucks.

Having said that, it may be a good way to learn about bitcoin and that may be worth something. Check this calculator to get a sense of profits/costs.

http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: QuintLeo on January 20, 2017, 10:27:57 PM
If you use a USB port on the laptop to control an ASIC device (like the Gridseed Blade and Orb units, or the Antminer U3, among MANY others) it won't put significant stress on the laptop.

 I don't know of any current device (except POSSIBLY the Avalon 721/741 units and the Baikal) that are USB-interface and profitable with electric that isn't free, but Sidehack has a project in the works using BitFury chips that should change that.

 As you're already discovered, laptops are NOT designed for high-usage 24/7 operation like mining requires.




Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: evakka on January 20, 2017, 10:47:04 PM
Even a newbie like me knows by now that the laptop-mining thing is a no go situation. The laptop is going to be destroyed.
 
Live example of the profits with a simple PC

Three normal (office usage) PC's:
 i3, i5, Core 2 2.66Ghz without overclocking

mining in minergate for almost 2 weaks 24*7 with total H/s
https://minergate.com/widget/3ceaa05041858ed4.png

The profits are:
Monero           0.152897540725
FantomCoin     0.755349797363

In total : 1.85572361 USD

So do your maths in mining with a laptop...


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: ImHash on January 20, 2017, 11:00:10 PM
We all know that mining with home computers or laptops isn't an option for bitcoin mining but seems like it isn't an option even for a bitcoin clone in the first day of it's launching, why is that? in the first 2 years of bitcoin mining with a desktop computer was possible without even joining a pool.

Can I run a core wallet without it trying to mine and use my system resources?


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: -ck on January 21, 2017, 12:48:02 AM
Can I run a core wallet without it trying to mine and use my system resources?
Core wallet hasn't had the ability to mine in many many years, but then you could just be trying to raise your post count.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: tippytoes on January 21, 2017, 01:00:22 AM
Just to put things in perspective, at the current difficulty and BTC price, you'll need about 6 TH/sec (Terahash, aka 6000 GH) to produce $4 per day. That also assumes your electricity is free and you are willing to run whatever hardware you have flat out, 24/7.

None of the above even remotely fits a laptop. It cannot even hit 1/10000 of the hashrate, and it's not built for 24/7 operation flat out. Laptops do short bursts of computation just fine, but not several minutes, much less hours all day. Attempting this will produce literally nothing in terms of BTC, and will shorten the life of you laptop significantly. A desktop might not have it's life shortened a lot, but it's still woefully underpowered.

Read lots of the threads here to see what you actually need if you want to mine BTC.

Even a newbie like me knows by now that the laptop-mining thing is a no go situation. The laptop is going to be destroyed.
 
Live example of the profits with a simple PC

Three normal (office usage) PC's:
 i3, i5, Core 2 2.66Ghz without overclocking

mining in minergate for almost 2 weaks 24*7 with total H/s
https://minergate.com/widget/3ceaa05041858ed4.png

The profits are:
Monero           0.152897540725
FantomCoin     0.755349797363

In total : 1.85572361 USD

So do your maths in mining with a laptop...


that's very true, even if you have your solar panels that will compensate for your electricity bill..
in the end, you will regret of even trying to think about laptop-mining. a lot is at stake for this endeavor!


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: adaseb on January 21, 2017, 01:49:32 AM
The only way you can make anything decent is to gpu mine with that 1060 which is still decent.

Mine ZEC, or ETH with that and you might make $1 daily


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: Clement Kaliyar on January 21, 2017, 08:11:03 AM
The only way you can make anything decent is to gpu mine with that 1060 which is still decent.

Mine ZEC, or ETH with that and you might make $1 daily
These are the expected hash rate as per the following thread Steemit (https://steemit.com/money/@bitlord/possible-mining-hashrate-of-the-new-gtx-1060)

Lyra2Rev2: 30-32 Mhs  
ETHash: 25-27 Mhs  
Blake (Decred): 1800 Mhs  
Blake2s (b) (ex. Siacoin): 1200-1300 Mhs  
Cryptonite (XCN): 11-12 Mhs  
Neoscrypt (FTC): 650-700 Khs  
LBRY: 170-180 Mhs  
Zcash 255-260 S/s

But mining using a laptop must be avoidable


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: ether19 on January 21, 2017, 08:20:41 AM
I recently got a pretty powerful laptop with a 1060 gpu, but mining on it turns close to no profit, and overheats the device. Im looking to start mining for fun, but dont want to invest too much money. Therefore using a USB miner seems like the perfect option. However, will mining with a usb miner on my laptop still damage and overheat my PC?

It useless to mine on your laptop. You are wasting electricity as well as burning your laptop for no good. I have tried to mine Zcash and Zclassic on my old Hp Probook 4520s. I get like 1 or 1.5 sols and I stopped after a week of mining. Now I just use it to fold protein or Folding @home, not to make money, but out of my love to fold  ;) Perhaps your should give it a try!


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: eaLiTy on January 21, 2017, 08:20:53 AM
Even a newbie like me knows by now that the laptop-mining thing is a no go situation. The laptop is going to be destroyed.
Live example of the profits with a simple PC
Three normal (office usage) PC's:
i3, i5, Core 2 2.66Ghz without overclocking
mining in minergate for almost 2 weaks 24*7 with total H/s
So do your maths in mining with a laptop...
I am really amazed that you could mine using minergate for two weeks and that too 24x7  using a laptop,when ever i tried mining using my gaming laptop the system would over heat and shut down automatically within a hour or two and how come you were able to mine for two weeks round the clock and i would not risk my expensive lap for pennies.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: soros017 on January 21, 2017, 08:27:36 AM
I imagine this was an expensive laptop, so I think you must be twice as careful with it... Mining with a laptop or even with a desktop computer are not as profitable activities as they were a few years ago. In addition, laptop has always been a problematic choice for mining. If your equipment does not have a good cooling system, this is not recommended.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: Wotan Wipeout on January 21, 2017, 06:31:00 PM
1060 isnt bad for LBRY. Just try it, but on the long run you shouldnt mine with a laptop.
If you have an Alienware you can buy the Amplifier and connect a 1080 to your Laptop.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: squatz1 on January 21, 2017, 06:34:04 PM
Just to put things in perspective, at the current difficulty and BTC price, you'll need about 6 TH/sec (Terahash, aka 6000 GH) to produce $4 per day. That also assumes your electricity is free and you are willing to run whatever hardware you have flat out, 24/7.

None of the above even remotely fits a laptop. It cannot even hit 1/10000 of the hashrate, and it's not built for 24/7 operation flat out. Laptops do short bursts of computation just fine, but not several minutes, much less hours all day. Attempting this will produce literally nothing in terms of BTC, and will shorten the life of you laptop significantly. A desktop might not have it's life shortened a lot, but it's still woefully underpowered.

Read lots of the threads here to see what you actually need if you want to mine BTC.

I've seen post after post here not come to the simple conclusion that this is the MINING (ALTCOINS) section so if you keep referencing bitcoin statistics it's really not going to help at all.

Mining BTC is not worth it but yet again it's not even something you were asking about Mike.

I'd go ahead and mine on Nicehash, ZCash, ETH or so on if you really would like to try to make a little money. Though you won't make it to $4 a day cause that 1060 in the laptop is barely going to make $.60 per day.

Good luck and have fun bud!


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on January 21, 2017, 06:44:13 PM
I recently got a pretty powerful laptop with a 1060 gpu, but mining on it turns close to no profit, and overheats the device. Im looking to start mining for fun, but dont want to invest too much money. Therefore using a USB miner seems like the perfect option. However, will mining with a usb miner on my laptop still damage and overheat my PC?
Not good idea to mine with usb in laptop.. much better to try mining altcoin but it can heat to much your device or try to buy vps online.. to mine altcoins..
If you are planning to mine bitcoin only asic like miner s9 can mine bitcoin.. the oldest miner could take a long time before you can make  1 bits.


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: QuintLeo on January 21, 2017, 07:36:42 PM

Not good idea to mine with usb in laptop..


 You're not MINING with a USB, you're controlling an ASIC via the USB port while the ASIC is doing the actual mining and the laptop is basically just relaying info between the mining pool/wallet and the ASIC.

 VERY low load on the CPU and such, which even a laptop should be able to handle.



Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: fmz89 on January 22, 2017, 08:59:56 AM

Not good idea to mine with usb in laptop..


 You're not MINING with a USB, you're controlling an ASIC via the USB port while the ASIC is doing the actual mining and the laptop is basically just relaying info between the mining pool/wallet and the ASIC.

 VERY low load on the CPU and such, which even a laptop should be able to handle.


you can mine with external gpu , use 2 gpu gtx 1070 or radeon r9 295,
first  for funny, but while passing time , you will see a potential from entering crypto world, you can make much money from nothing(thin air, lol  ;D ;D)
1000 usd can make someprofit, buying old second hand gpu, 200usd/month it will be nice


Title: Re: Mining With My Laptop
Post by: megynacuna on January 22, 2017, 10:16:47 AM
I recently got a pretty powerful laptop with a 1060 gpu, but mining on it turns close to no profit, and overheats the device. Im looking to start mining for fun, but dont want to invest too much money. Therefore using a USB miner seems like the perfect option. However, will mining with a usb miner on my laptop still damage and overheat my PC?

I wonder why you even invested so much into a laptop in the first place? Was it for the purpose of mining or something else? If it wasn't intended for mining then don't mine with it but rather invest a little into GPU rigs or an ASIC antmimer or any mining hardware. The fastest  laptop CPU cannot give you any significant hash/s to profit.