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The design is overly simple and will feature the same design on the front and the back


Each set contains 2 coins
There will be two different finishes, one coin will be 1oz Silver Matte finish, and the second one will be 1oz Silver Shiny finish.
The engraved numbers will be from 1-15
Will come in an airtight
The design will be stamped into the coin
TRUSTED ESCROW WILL BE USED,

A non-custom holog ram will be provided however, if this is successful and I order a custom hologram all of my past coins will be eligible for 1 if the user pays for shipping.

As there is no spot for a hologram, because of David hornby of magtraonics error the non custom hologram will not be provided, however assuming this series sells out, each customer will be able to get my custom holograms (a few per coin) which will be made after series 3 and before series 4 for the price of a postage stamp


Sets reserviations
1 aucton
2 aucton
3 aucton
4 aucton
5 aucton

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1762583.0

^Link to auction


6 chronicsky
7 blazed
8 bithalo
9 Liad.Services gonna be shipped to mj
10 hybridsole
11 Minerjones
12 Hhampuz - "Maybe"
13
14
15


 Users that purchased these will have first dibs at buying a matching serial number

Each set cost $70
Set consists of:
One 1 OZ silver matte finish
One 1 OZ silver shiny finish
Non-Custom Hologram
(user pays shipping)

I am thinking of going with this

http://www.securityhologram.com/index.php?action=buy&id=132&quantity=

^ as a hologram but then I would have a lot of extras.

Feel free to look at my other thread selling coins

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1739665.0

^

these will be ready to be shipped no later than February 17th 2017  

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Its my initials,

is this a joke?

Well done sir! These look amazing. They remind me a bit of the bitcoinpenny, that's cool.

What's the material for these coins? Silver/Copper/Brass/Plastic/Wood?

Might be placing an order, good luck with sales!

Too similar to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794678 I think

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2Fow6uwvsgv%2FIMG_0844.jpg&t=572&c=EDKLLldyFLpLmg

For now, I'll reserve #8

No it is not a joke, you even knew that I was doing this.



Each coin is 1 OZ silver. I updated the OP with that too.


That was not my intention if I would have known about that design I would have made my different,, I just put my initials on the coin. Ill update the OP with that note

What are the finishes?


Will they be real silver or "silver colored" (we will check)


Where dafuq does the hologram go if you have the same design on both sides?

this has to be called the "rim Job" coin - as if it's the same front and back - where else will the fricking holo go???

rimjob - this is better than my bigballs name!

I shouldn't be digging you out for the innovation,  because we need to encourage it in the community, so I am sorry -  but dude/dudette... you need more planning - I thought you were off to the army in 2 weeks anyway?

Failed the psych?

or the physical?

Interested but wondering if you'll have the physical coins in hand before taking payment for reservations?

Congratulations on your first coin release. :)
Is the rate of $70 fixed?

As that is a lot for an unloaded/unload-able coin.

Watching.  

A matte silver and a shiny silver

It will be real

The hologram would go on one of the sides, and over the little black spot because that would be the indentation for it.



Navy, and I thought I was they asked me if I wanted to take a job leaving in February but nothing ever came of it so I guess I gotta wait till my original date of august 


I dont plan on setting up escrow to take the payment until all the orders and auctions are done so I only have to go to the post office once and ship them out all at the same time. But if this isnt possible, than Ill be accepting escrow once I have the finished coins in my hand.


Yes the rate of $70 is fixed, I do not think that is much for 2 one ounce silver coins.

What are the dimensions of these coins?
Wouldn't the little black spot be too "little" for the hologram?

cool on navy, my daughter starts officer training in a few months..

but back to coin business rimjob - where does the Holo go?

The coins are 39mm.

I haven't figured out what stock hologram I am going to go with yet.

But I do not think so.

I think the stock hologram will be too big and won't really look "right" on the coin. But since when are DIY coins actually loaded?

if I was to do a custom hologram, I guess something small to cover the black spot and not go over the B would be my only option.


The hologram would go over the black spot, because the black spot just represents an indention where you would put the private key.

sorry im not too good working with such small measurements - but.. isn't that unrealistically small rimjob?

I think those are ugly. no offence.

I think the stock holograms are usually at least 15x15 mm in size, which will cover the "B" logo, if one were to load the coin.

Is it possible for you to use this design on the front and provide a place to put the hologram on the back side?

I think most people load their DIY coins with the face value of the same. (I do) :)

Im not too sure what you are asking?

It is a standard size 1 OZ silver coin.



The design will be stamped so I did not want to make it too detailed for fear that it would not come out looking right.


The one I want to use it in the OP now, it is a square and is 10x10mm it might just cover the B but I do not think I will get them any smaller.

These coins do not even say they are silver on them nor do they have a face value

Im not too sure what you are asking?

It is a standard size 1 OZ silver coin.

I mean the holo - is it a holo for midgets rimjob?

So you have to stick the hologram on top of the face of the coin? It's off center and you'll cover the 'design' with the hologram. Also, why doesn't the design say '.999 silver' or something similar?

Judging by my rough calculations, I think the black spot is 8mm so if the hologram is positioned right, I do not think it will cover the B and if it does, only alittle amount.

The smallest the letters could be is 1mm and I couldn't find a good spot to put it.

edit: I could cut the holograms to fit if need be.

edit: I am also thinking about getting the holograms laser engraved to match the front serial number but that would increase the cost. 

cutting the holo will cut the PVT Key wont it?

 who designed this coin? Not bad if a new designer .  

Better not make front and back identical.

Good Luck OP in this new project.

How would cutting the holo affect the private key? The private key would be the little piece of paper that goes into the black spot, while the hologram is going to be used to cover it


I designed it..

If I didn't have the front and back identical than it would have added $15 per set in costs so it was not worth it to me.

If these 30 coins sell out in 30 days I can do this all again, and sell another set for the same price with a different back and this same front.

Hi so what is included in the "Each set cost $70+ user pays shipping. "
Is it 1 silver coin and + what else?
Do we need to pay extra for the hologram?
Can you engrave "killyou" on them as collectibles?
thanks!

so how big is the pvt key? and are we trusting you with PVT key generation? if so please can you document the full process.

actually - fuck it - 30 total. 21 left.. ill pay you spot plus $1.75 per coin.. deal?

these are loaded?

no he was generating the keys- I just want to buy them as a joke - ill link the blood fucking/stabbing thread and sell the pair as collectibles on ebay - ill clean up. Think of the bitcoin exposure..

he needs to engrave his name on them or they are worthless to me :)

I'll offer spot + $1.80 a coin

ok Spot plus $5 a coin if your name is engraved.... 

ok but only on the silver

I can engrave killyou on them but you would have to pay more


THESE ARE NOT LOADED NOR AM I GENERATING ANY KEYS THESE ARE DIY


I would not break even at that rate, so I would have to decline your offer.

How much more are we talking? because you have a brand sir!

Looks neat.  I'd like to reserve lowest # available, provided that you use a trusted escrow and request funds only after coins are made. 

Will probably buy  set 9.
Anyway has to see the coins ready at first.

I would not break even at that rate, so I would have to decline your offer.
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OK Final offer - Spot -$2.33 per coin - multi drop air drone delivery and 3 escrows??

seriously, ill take one - I Want KIllyou72 engraved on the top and leg stab, blood fuck. engraved around the bottom, how much?

I would also be interested in such a coin.
If you can engrave that it could be nice. let me know.

OK Final offer - Spot -$2.33 per coin - multi drop air drone delivery and 3 escrows??

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TMAN you can't back out of such an offer :)

The engraver charges me 30 cents a character, so 30 cents per character.


Yeah I posted in an earlier reply I was using escrow. Ill update that in the OP. Looks like you will get number 8.


I will update that you might buy #9. If someone else wants it, then I will let them


30 cents per character and what ever other fees the engraver would charge me. You would be required to send funds to escrow before I get the engraving done, and once it is done you cannot request a refund.

ok ill take the rest then. ill pay escrow when you have coins in hand. for the coins and engraving.

please mock up my coin as requested.

EDIT -mine must be the only ones with that specific engraving and I will require the coins to be sent to an independent 3rd party for testing.

So that would give you spots 10-15 because 1-5 will be going up with escrow.

I cannot mock up what the engraving would look like

can i suggest a design like this?

https://i.imgur.com/OIqXHlg.png

might be better suited?

thanks!

I need a mock up of the design, I wont be buying if its shit and done by a 12 year old... actually - maybe even better... I need a mock up and pictures of coins before I send any money... 

Well the colors would not matter as the designed will be pressed into the coin, I think the skull should be changed to a leg, and move the killyou72 down to the bottom of the coin, and the leg could be the spot for the hologram to go possibly.

Well its a professional engraver doing the work, I would need you to tell me what font you would want used. I will have pictures of the coins of the coins in 2 weeks or so.

whatever you need my man :)

and I agree with TMAN, its pretty standard to see a pic of an initial coin after production even if its a 1 off :)

cheers buck.

Killyou - show me some designs - what options do I have... im the client you need to please me. if you cant fulfil the basic requests then the deal will have to be pulled - im not asking for the earth here...

should we get to the purchase stage - all coins would go to buck (I would cover his fee)  once he oks them then escrow will release to you.

Is Buck in the USA? I do not want to ship these internationally.

I have no idea on the font, I could find out tomorrow what the options would be, and the smallest size lettering and all that.

than I could give you a mockup

yes metal tester is in the US- then ill probably get MJ to reship to me - once I have the quality control done - escrow is released.

hit me with 3-5 options on the mock tomorrow and we can chat.

Looks like bithalo reserved #8 per the OP. Did you mean to say #9?
edit - Since Liad posted after me requesting #9 specifically, I would take prefer to take #10. 

I don't understand this part:

Two coins per 1 set, i.e. 2 oz total  ???

Listen kill you - I need to be clear I am a buyer here - but engraving and silver quality are the important parts of this project.

please do not come moaning to me if this deal falls through to any of your failing to plan. And not one satoshi will pass to you until the quality has been inspected by the 3rd party....

Alright so to be clear:

You approve quality of the coin, IE the stamped design when I post pictures of it
You send funds to escrow for coin purchase+engraving fee+agree that you cannot back out now.
I send coins to MJ
MJ inspects coins
Escrow releases BTC to me.
MJ reships coins to you.



Ouch you are right, my mistake, however, TMAN looks pretty intent on purchasing all of the coins so I cannot fulfil this request, however, series 2 I will give you whatever number you want to make up for this mishap



Mhm, it looks confusing to me too I dunno how to clarify it.

Each set is 2 coins.
1 OZ Silver Matte finish
I OZ silver shiny finish

Each set costs $70. User pays for shipping.


please see the above,

Well, you didn't exactly state that correctly anywhere. You should probably edit this part out:

Into something like:

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I don't think the design is anything special, but the price is actually quite affordable even though a generic hologram will be used. Unfortunately all the low numbers are already taken (even though I don't want anything engraved), therefore I'll try my luck in an auction.

No thanks.  If you can't honor a simple reservation request and want to give half your coins to one person, go ahead but I'm not interested in doing business with you.  

I am really appreciated of what TMAN is doing, as long as everything works out, then I am able to create another series and hopefully by the 3rd or 4th coin I will be able to get custom holograms.


If Liad backs out, you are more than welcome to his spot. In the mean time I will see if TMAN will give up one of the coins to you



TMAN's terms prevent the auction from running and he also bought those coins. So someone would have to buy sets 1-5 and 10-15 at a price higher than TMAN is paying in order to knock him out of the auction.

But I don't see that happening.

Kill you - you are stupid to not handle this better.

hybrid - yours is cool ill give one up - but the custom engraving is mine!!!!

How would you have handled it?

Thank you very much for giving one up

If you are in the USA hybrid I will offer you free tracked shipping if you buy

he reserved 1st - big client or not - you need to honor a res... luckily hybrid is part of the big balls appreciation society - so its cool for him to have one! just no engraving!

Simple: Limit the number of reservations to X per verifiable (prevents abuse via newbies). This should especially be done with coins that are very limited in number. Keep this in mind for your next series.

Man, that sounds like a great idea for the next series.


Ah I will do that for my next series

Have you all gone bat shit crazy?!?

All the reservations are filled. I PMed you on: January 19, 2017, 08:32:05 PM » asking you if you wanted to reserve any, and you didnt answer me.

Ill add you to the backup list incase something happens with TMAN.

However, you cannot reserve a single coin you have to reserve a "set"

a set consists of 2 coins

Well I added you to the backup list, and what was not clear about the OP to you so I can update it to make it more clear.

How can you reserve me and Tman spots and then state on the thread that anybody who wants those spots can take them and replace us.
Are you kidding me?
It is the same as no reserving at all.
Are you sure that you know what reservation means?

As I said, I will buy a set, but ONLY after you got the coins in your hands.

looks like I missed this.. no

Alright so to be clear:

You approve quality of the coin, IE the stamped design when I post pictures of it - NO
You send funds to escrow for coin purchase+engraving fee+agree that you cannot back out now. - NO
I send coins to MJ - NO
MJ inspects coins - NO
Escrow releases BTC to me.
MJ reships coins to you.

quality of coins and metals are inspected by 3rd party once complete... I was pretty clear about that - how will I know they are 999 silver if I dont get them tested. once tested and passed QC rescrow is released to you.

I am taking reservations in case TMAN backs out


Its my initials, Ill add that to the OP now



I don't see how what I said does not adhere to what you just restated.

I am not getting these custom engraved for you without you having put funds in escrow and agree to purchase the coins.

because if you change your mind after I get these engraved they will be worthless besides there silver weight

that was one great auction!
 >:(

So will the TMAN coin happen? If not what does the plan look like? I might have been interested in one or two of these coins but if you'll sell out instantly and close auction after the first bid I'm not really sure on what to do. TMAN please let me know if you make this purchase, I'll pay for one of the coins from you if so, will pay more than the $35.

Atleast you got a coin :P



Well I will add you to the reserve list.


TMAN won't know if he is taking them until they are in my hands and stamped.

Sorry, I had to do it.  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7uvttu8ct0

keep taking reservations. but I will not likely take coins that look like they have been generated by a 4 year old.. where are my mock ups requested anyway bud?

You can always try to privately secure it from the person that got them via PM. :D

Maybe you can put up the coins for inspection from third party first, and if all checks out then you do the engraving. Simple as that.

no because the coins will then need to go back for testing... catch 22 - you don't have enough rep to handle a few thousand of my money. this is a first project that you aren't experienced in, this is likely to go wrong, so I need to be safe and secure - if that doesnt' work for you - then i with withdrawal all my reservations.

Well, this puts the OP at risk in a certain way if you think about it. Let's assume the coins end up in 'inadequate' quality for you (as observed by third party). The coins get returned to OP, but he can't really sell them to someone else due to the specific engraving that you asked for. Hopefully he won't mess up the coin with something trivial, such as the engraving.

sorry im out - this and 4PM's for a simple request is too much grief for me - sorry Killyou - please sell elsewhere to others more trusting than I

Exactly, but since TMAN is out this does not matter.

Why you didn't start making cheap coins that you could afford to invest? If I'm not wrong, this is your first coin and users are worried about the quality because they never saw any coin produced from you. In my opinion starting with a silver coin isn't the best option, if the mint don't made a good work you will loose money with this.

If you look closely at my OP, you will see it says these coins will be stamped, , there will be no mint. These will be rough looking coins I would assume, and are going to be made like ancient greek coins where. Each one will be a little different

I wonder if any other coin makers have stamped their coins vs using a mint.   There's a risk these coins will be very handmade looking and a lot of unhappy customers expecting something else.  Perhaps you should show a finished product before asking for payment, even if using escrow. 

Why not use a mint and charge more to recover your costs?

The Bitcoin Penny Company contracts with an actual mint, because we prefer the appearance of a professionally minted coin as opposed to a rougher, handmade coin. Nothing against handmade coins, mind you. We simply prefer the appearance of professionally minted coins. The QC is much better too.

Good luck with your new coins, ky.

Regards,
Chris

Because that would go against what I am trying to do, I don't want to charge more. I want to get these as close to spot as possible.

I plan on showing the coins once they are completed.

there is always risk in business - 60oz silver bar would be snapped up at spot.

so take the punt - if its shit- just make silver into a bar - get it tested and sell it on. life lesson learnt for little.

I think that the idea of a non-professionally minted, handmade, artisan physical bitcoin is an intriguing idea, and I'm glad to see that you've accidentally stumbled upon the idea. If well-executed, then this could be a very nice, niche addition to the burgeoning world of bitcoin collectibles. (On the other hand, if poorly-executed, then it could drastically lower the bar for future collectibles projects, and that would be unfortunate.) I'm an optimistic person, so I'm sure you've got this.

However, it's important to remember that a non-professionally minted, handmade coin may have troubles when it comes to ANACS grading services. Just a random thought...

Congratulations again.

Regards,
Chris

Maybe something like these in style? 

2 oz, 1 oz, 1/2 oz left to right.

https://s29.postimg.org/cepcn1huv/DSC02024.jpg

Those look wooden. I want all my coins to be made out of precious metals

They are 0.999 fine silver.

Nice eye!

Yesterday I was reading TMAN had purchased all the coins and today that seems to be off, can you clarify the status of the sets?

Congrats with your first release, hope everything pans out well.

I think I saw this type of coin being stamped at Disney World..Or some other theme park..Maybe even a renesance fair. There was a giant slide hammer mounted on 2 guide rails...A block and tackle would hoist the heavy weight.   You would choose 2 dies from the collection... Front and back... Then choose the blank coin, ...The dies and coin blank would be fixed to the weight and base..., The hoist would raise the weight to 10 feet height and be locked in place... You got to pull the rope to unleash the hook and with a double thump.. would strike the coin blank...I watched it done twice...Always remember it...Thought it was cool... Wanted to build one..


Good luck.... Hope it works...

I feel like there is sarsam there, but I really really like those do you have any more info on them?


1-5 are being auctioned. 13, 14, 15 are 100% available and #12 might be available



Thank you, me too


I saw something similar if not identical to that at a Renaissance fair,

If you order a coin, I believe I can hand deliver it to you if you would like

Lots!

Regarding the silver buttons, they are poured and stamped.

Are you sure they arent stamped and then poured?

Are they stamped while the silver is still molten?

Can I purchase these anywhere?

Did you make them yourselves?

Don't you need a license to melt silver?

You don't seem to know a lot for a guy who is going to make his own silver coins.

I think you should make some reads, if you want everything to go smooth, otherwise you are going to face a lot of problems, even if you "only" pay a company to do that job for you.

I answer your questions below in red

I guess I kinda got a big update to announce.

I received the silver blanks a few days ago and I was pleasantly surprised that they where all ready rimmed and look better than I thought they would, I will post a photo of them in the OP.

The stamper was delayed heavily, should have only taken about a week to come to me, but I just received the tracking number for it and I should have it by friday SO on friday I will posting pictures of one finished set (without the engraving) and I expect these to be shipping the 24th the latest.

My time table right now is this:

Receive stamper on February 9th,
have coins stamped and ready to be sent to engraver on the 15th.
Receive coins back from engraver on the 22nd.

Nice looking silver rounds, I hope you use cotton gloves when you touch them... Also will your die have ".999 silver" 

Sounds cool!
Update us with some pictures once you have it.
Are you planning on making a test portotype at first, or you are just going to mint them all at once?
Either ways, the Dies look neat, and I hope the design and the stamping machine is quality enough.

It will not,

I have been using pieces of an old tshirt, but I do not think that the guy at the machine shop is gonna wear cotton gloves but I can certainly request it lol



Its going to be stamped with a 60 ton hydraulic press, which to my understanding presses it in, when it reality it should be quickly struck to leave the design. But I am hoping since silver is malleable, that I made my design thick enough and that it will come out looking good

If you are not going to worry about the finish..Consider artificially toning them.. they could be dipped in a chemical that will darken them and give different colors of blues or reds...Just in idea

Thats a great idea, I am not going to do that for this batch. But possibly the next one.... I havn't seen anyone do that.

Blood red lol

I would like to see .999 silver stamped on it if possible.  Is there a reason that wouldn't be doable?

Because I all ready ordered the stamper. I could get it in engraved but that would add a cost of $6 to each set...

You could let them know a mistake was made and you need the stamper corrected.   ;)

In my eyes it's a large oversight and I'd expect people to question why the pure silver item isn't marked as such.  If anything you could purchase one of the $10 stamps from etsy/ebay and hammer it in yourself.

Show me where I can get a $10 stamper that says .999 silver on it ;p

I guess I could, that is a really good idea better than getting it engraved...

The only one I can find is

https://www.etsy.com/listing/250063316/round-custom-design-or-logo-jewelry

and this guy literally as the worst customer service on the entire planet.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/274007926/15mm-999-fine-silver-mark-metal-stamp

Wow. Problem solved, thanks so much.

Now, I guess I will PM everyone that ordered one to see what they want it to say.

Are you going to hammer in your username on them? i dont think id want one without it...thanks!

I am not,

that's too bad, i think you would actually get more sales if you did to be honest :)

I 100000% doubt that


Maybe series 5 or 6 could have my username on it.

My username isnt appealing, I do not see why anyone would want it on a coin

series 5 or 6?

what are you doing for series 2-4?

I would probably get a silver coin if you stamped your username on it the right way with all the proper items pre mentioned adn the price was right.
Doubt id wait 5 more series though lol

Well series 2 will be a half ounce coin, series 3 will be a 1/4 ounce coin and series 4 will be 1/10 ounce coin and series 5 will be a 2 ounce coin.

The coins are currently at the machine shop now, but David hornby of magtraonics messed up my design so the only thing it as is the year and the B. No "F" or impression for the private key. He has not answered any of my emails either in weeks.

Series 2 will feature a much better design different front and back.

Sounds Promising.

Given there was such a detailed and well thought out plan, executed with wisdom and experience, it is no surprise to see everything come together at the end.

Thanks for the sarcasm

I should have the coins back tonight or tomorrow, and than off to the engraver on Monday

I got the first coin back and you can see it in the OP. I will have the rest tomorrow and than off to the engraver they go

Really now that I look at them they are the ugliest crap i ever seen. Anyone buying them is retarded. Straight up.

Thats not nice. I am going to lock this thread as all coins have been shipped received and paid for