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So, Trump is president. Great or not I don't really care.

But one of his first action has been... To prevent the funding of association promoting the legalization of abortion...
Thousands of dickhead on this forum are saying that "feminazis" are a shame and that they're getting way over the top, that they should stop with their stupid protests and all...

But do you even realize that one of his first action has been to gather 7 men and to actually decide to stop promoting legalization of abortion?

Don't wonder why women are so anti-Trump, it's just because Trump is so anti-women!
Come tell me he's not sexist now ><

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/one-of-donald-trumps-first-moves-in-the-white-house-strips-women-of-abortion-rights/news-story/0b958833c3356ad3a00b785a6bfc21ef

I agree with most of Trump's policies, but I don't agree with this one. Abortion must be legal (with the exception of partial birth abortion). Why create orphans, if the parents are not interested in raising the child? Also, sometimes if the fetus is not aborted, it can result in health complications for the mother. Check this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

I am not from US but I will share my opinion. I am with Trump to stop legalize abortion. In the first place why is that you would make a baby then abort it if you can stop it by using contraceptives? The baby in the womb is not a trash that you simply abort it if you don't want it.
It is a human like you that has a will to live and experience the world.

Just my opinion.

People should learn some responsibility. There are cheap and easy to use ways of contraception. So no, abortion should not be legal, except for extreme cases like deformation/mutation, rape, probability a mother could die giving birth.


Yes, I'd like these irresponsible parents, who fuck without contraception and then get scared when the belly starts to grow, to answer this.

What if that child is known to have a life crippling handicap? Or it will only live for a few days after birth? Or the mother will die because of complications?

Also, I like how people blame the parents for getting pregnant, yet do not wish to help these children themselves after birth. Every child is precious to them, but only until they are born. Placing children into horrible conditions because they are so selfish they want to impose their views on everyone else.

Not all abortions are just senseless selfish desires. But forcing people to live in your world view is.

The formal USA administration has broken most cherish morals and ethics set by the funding founders. Trump, of a true is here to deal with those women and men that think breaking God laws is not a crime. God create human beings and the only way he can succeed is through obeying God commandments and his words. Abortion is evil before God and we have to treat it as so. If trump what to fight enemies of God no professional sponsored protest media can stop him from succeeding.

If you agree with abortion why not stopping there. You can also kill your infants and children and disabled relatives. If you cannot raise them properly.

I'm 100% behind Trump.  I will not be posting this if my mother abort me.

In as much as I find it absurd for people who engage in what they are not ready for then ended up getting pregnant only for  them to abort it because there is a law supporting such issues then it is a wrong endeavour and it is right for it to be stopped. However, we also need to not be unmindful of the fact that there are some abortions that are very important to be carried out cases like rape, child marriage, health issues are very important to be taken care of.

Problem is sometimes you don't have the choice.
There NO CURRENT CONTRACEPTION MEANS THAT ARE 100% SAFE!
It doesn't exist! Sure condoms are great but they're only 99.2% effective. You think that's a lot? Well not for a couple that has been living together for a long time. You have sex on average twice a week, it makes 110 times a year. With a 99.2% rates it means that every year you'll have a problem (condom breaks for example) and you have a chance to have a baby. Even though you used a fucking condom.
No, it has nothing.
It's just a "potential".
It has no consciousness, no will, no sensations, nothing. It's just a bit of flesh! Of course if you abort after 8 months of pregnancy it's something else... But who does that? It's illegal everywhere of course! But if you abort after 2 months, the "baby" is just a bean of flesh, litteraly. No brain, no eyes... It is nothing, just a part of you you should have all the right to dispose of.

Moreover sometimes you have medical reasons to abort. Sometimes after 2 months of pregnancy you discover the foetus suffers of huge malformation, trizomie or whatever...

Well that's already much better than what I see in this thread usually.
Indeed you raise good points where abortion is PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE and CANNOT BE FORBIDDEN if you have some decency.
Problem is that the act of Trump doesn't take those cases into account. He doesn't give a fuck about those cases, which are extreme but not rare at all!!! Deformation and mutation for example concern around 1% of pregnancies. Most are aborted and some decide to keep the child anyway. It's their right to decide this.

Problem is... No contraception is 100% efficient. It doesn't exist...
Currently even if you use contraceptive pills (which not every women can use) and condoms, you can have an accident. Of course it will be rare, but when you know that a couple has sex 100 times a year and you think of the number of couples... You understand that's not SO RARE.

If you live 20 years with the same person you'll have sex with him/her 2.000 times on average. Even if there is only 0.1% of chance of an accident (and it's much more than that, more like 1%) it means you could have 2 unwanted babies!!!

Not really "rare"...

You're becoming emotional here.

It's like people saying "if you allow gay marriage why not also paedophilia and zoophilia?".
That's a stupid argument because there is a very clear and obvious line between the two. Here the line will be consciousness. If you kill infants or disabled relatives you KILL. That means you put an end to a living being, that has consciousness of himself and the world.
If you get aborted (before your 8 month of pregnancy of course) you don't kill. You might FEEL that it's the same thing but it has no link whatsoever. A foetus is NOTHING, it's just a pack of flesh.

It's just a potential, it would be the EXACT SAME THING as to say that you kill millions of people when you masturbate, because you kill millions of "potential humans".

Don't get your emotions command your actions. Think before making a decision.

I completely agree with you. Before giving birth, a woman has the right to dispose of his health and destiny. Children must be born in love. If not initially, then why give birth to orphans who do not know parental love

I am really not surprised with Trump defunding organization that promotes abortion, The whole Republican Party is against it. If the women can go on demonstration against Gun violence, i think it is highly hypocritical of them to demonstrate against Trump for defunding these organizations. These protesters are selfish individuals who just want to have their cake and eat it. If you don't want to get pregnant for Christ Sake use a condom. In todays world, there are other ways to prevent pregnancy rather than have an abortion.

Very good decision to stop all those child sacrifices. Murdering of children is one of the worst crimes of humanity.

They are all just hypocrites, I will accept an abortion on the reason that its going to be fatal to the pregnant lady but having an abortion because you just want to have it is very inconsiderate and selfish and when they have it once they will continuing having it again and again. this is the same as being a murderer.

All the people quoted are just COMPLETE MORONS for two reason:
-they compare abortion to murder. Saying an abortion is a murder is the same as saying masturbation is a genocide. A foetus has no sense, no intelligence, no will, no consciousness. It's just flesh and potential human being. Nothing more.
-They believe that contraception is efficient. It is not. Contraception like condoms are efficient for occasional sex, it can't be used for a normal healthy regular sexual life without a small risk of still getting pregnant.

Murder is the deprivation of the formed person. Until a child has not formed, I do not consider it murder. Besides who gave you the right to invade someone else's life? When you're pregnant, then for yourself and decide!

No they're conservatives morons. That means they're for liberty, but not when it hurts their beliefs.
When it hurts their beliefs you have no right to do it!
Even if there is no argument behind!

Wow, Trump is really the best President of America. Aside from not promoting LGBT rights he also make a move to stop  pro-abortion law. Abortion is not pro-women but instead it is anti-women, it destroys the dignity of women and its right to give birth. Abortion is killing a life and it is murder. Abortion causes women to have trauma in life which cause emotional distress, therefore Trump is pro-women since by abolishing the pro-abortion law he is protecting and upholding the dignity of women.

Which is a good thing?
No law is pro abortion. Laws are pro "having the right to dispose of your body". There isn't a single law saying you should abort...
Stupid because:
1/ How can giving women the right to control their body be anti-women?
2/ Then why NOT A SINGLE WOMAN signed this law if it's so pro women?
3/ How the hell does abortion the right to give birth?? On the contrary it reinforce this right! Transforming a natural duty into a civilized right!
4/ What's the link with dignity? How controlling your own body can be seen as a lack of dignity? You want me to control what you have the right to do with your body then so you can have more dignity?
False. See above posts, abortion is only the destruction of a pile of flesh. There is no will, no consciousness, no sense, no intelligence... Nothing. It's like saying masturbation is a genocide because it MIGHT become human one day.
Cause having a child after being raped doesn't cause trauma? Good to know damn!
See as all your previous arguments are pure shit and understand that your conclusion is the exact opposite of reality.

And maybe look at the millions of women thinking exactly the contrary of you? You mean that Trump is pro women while women don't even understand he's doing this for their good?

Until now I count 9 users that actually believe that abortion is killing and that Trump is pro women rights.

The more time passes the more I understand how USA is doomed and how I'm happy it will just destroys itself.

People are actually saying that Trump is pro women rights by... Depraving them of a right...
Such logic, much wow, dignity lots...

It's not that complicated.  In the US, the argument is that federal money should not fund abortions.

Federal money for abortions is NOT A RIGHT.

That's different from woman's rights.

How the Federal government funds abortions? American women pay for abortions themselves. It's a woman's right to have an abortion or not. Trump generally climbs in those areas where he understands nothing.

No.
That's only the first part of the act.
I disagree with that as abortion grants far more to society than what it costs, but indeed it is not a right.

But second part of the act prevent individuals to make donations to associations promoting about abortion, helping women with abortion, or even just informing about abortion.

How is that not a right?

Why Trump believes that he has the right to allow or not allow people to sacrifice their money on what they want. Let him show you how he made his money, how he paid the taxes and whom he financed.

Yeah but you know republicans are for freedom...
Freedom and no state regulation.

Unless it's for something against their beliefs! Then it's ok you can regulate everything!

Trump apologist at their best.
Jesus you people are fucking retarded.
Do something for humanities gene pool and jump from a bridge - i heard trump just said it is a good thing to do.

Don't you understand anything? What Trump apologist? What it protects? He is a moron. It is simply scandalous showman. To say not to do. He does not say how to do. He says I will do. I don't believe him!

Ahahahah

Well the main problem is that he seems to have a strong will to make America great again... like it was in the 50's...

Problem is that only a stupid white male would want to go back to the 50's! Anyone else would rather try to go further instead of looking back with nostalgia...

Sarah pallin on steroids is a joke against this.

Even the child has a crippling handicap its not a good way to abort it. But in case of a matter of life and death between a mother and a child it depends on the mother how she will handle it. But most mother would love to die than to abort and kill her own child. If thats the case I think law on abortion does not apply in it.

Lol
Do you even understand that the thing in the belly of the mother IS NOT A CHILD??
It has no feelings, no spirit, no senses...
It's not a human!

I really don't care as well if trump is an jack ass. For this action I am seeing that he value the life of a human being ( I supposed that he is actually thinking that everyone has the right to live) this is good in my part because as a christian we value life so much. Tho i still support the contraceptives to prevent pregnancy

Trump is just taking those quick decisions now to cater for the conservatives and low IQ rednecks and that voted him. After this period is over, we will start seeing what actual economic decisions he takes. And most of the stuff he wants to do will not get done anyway since it will get revoked once things are actually voted. He needs a lot of agreements, he didn't get enough popular vote to go around doing whatever he wants.

In any case, he is going to cause a lot of uncertainty in the markets which means BTC is going to the moon.

i'm not "pro life" but hopefully this will deter women from thinking they can fuck random guys without consequences, the next step is to take away single mothers' welfare

Thanks all!

Next time I see a stupid redneck yelling "women need no feminism, they already got everything in our countries" I'll just have to give him this link!

A child born with a handicap will require more than one million USD worth of medical care during its full life-span. In the end, it is the tax payer who is going to bear most of this expense. It is very unfair, given that a lot of people refrain from having children since they are poor. Also, there is no point in endangering the life of the mother, in order to save an undeveloped fetus.

haha lol i do agree, maybe they are right that there were a lot of abuse of womens but the reality as well is that there were also a lot of cases were weaker men were being abused and i hate it when they are shouting it seems like they are not doing the same thing and in fact it is still their decision whether they would let the kid alive or dead but they choose to run on the obligations as well.

Then it means we also need to fight for men's rights ;)

There is no logic in saying "we won't give you this fundamental right because we feel like you're abusing some of the men's right".
It's better to just give everyone what they deserve.

He didn't make abortions illegal duh.. He signed a ban on federal money going to international groups that perform or provide information on abortions. So those international organizations can get funding from some other country or corporation. Maybe the whore mothers can pay for their own abortions.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38729364 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38729364)

No one said  he made abortion illegal. Even if he supports abortion ban.
Don't you find it a bit worrying that his FIRST ACTION AS A PRESIDENT is to prevent abortion funding? Not only by state but also by individuals. You no longer have the right to give money to association supporting abortion or promoting it in any way.

And why can't you all IDIOTS understand that abortion is not only for "whores" whatever that means?!?!
Accidents HAPPEN! All the time!!!
All condom manufacturers say their product aren't 100% effective! That they can get broken!!!
For lots of women, contraceptive pills dose must be changed from time to time, and sometimes the contraceptive pill won't be effective !

It HAPPENS! EVERY DAY!
And those women just want to abort because they don't want or can't support a baby!!

And who are you to say the contrary??

Why should tax payers have to pay for an abortion? I didn't get any fucking out of it so why am I paying? The woman and man who make the kid should pay.

Who needs contraceptives when you can just pull out and cum all over the face of the fucking whore.

Did you miss the part where you no longer have the right to make a DONATION to an association?
And abortion are incredibly much cheaper than having to pay for an unwanted child.
You realize that unwanted child will statistically be less healthy, more criminals than wanted child?

It's just a matter of do you prefer to pay a very low amount before or a very big amount after
Despite the fact that your comment is disgusting and sexist as fuck, it also shows why there is a need for abortion. Because complete idiots like you actually think that the pull out method works even if we know since the 60's that it doesn't because pre cum can be enough to reach pregnancy.

hahahha trump is a bitch he has the biggest power in his hands now , i hope nothing bad will happen.

It's not federals money it's the peoples money ;D..

People do the work for TICKETS then exchange those tickets..
So some of them tickets will pay for abortions  ;)..
And if he doesn't he out in 4 years ;) ;)..

Quite a few times i have bet on a horse and cheered the horse all the way to the line and WON ;D.
So i looked at my ticket and it was the wrong horse ::) :D..

I hope your not that horse Mr trump ;)..

A man has no right over a women's body ;D..
And do you want to go back to the days when women stuck a coat hanger up there privates to pull it out?..

America great again?..If you get rid of abortion and women rights over there bodies the whole western world will fucking hate AMERICA ;)..A promise >:(..

I will call you for everything me if you do..Total lied to the people >:(..

I remember him saying about women's rights and everyone went against is proposals even i did and his ratings went to the floor ..And he then changed his mind..So as he changed it again?..

Because if you have what a rip off :D :D..
And i will not support you no more ;)..

Most women if they had the money they keep that child ;)..
So how do they pay for an abortion?..

I suppose spendy you let her die in the fucking street ;) as long as she ain't cost you nothing :D
Must be the JEW in you :D :D..

Also you can only abort up to 12 weeks after 12 you have to keep it..
Unless special cases like rape handicapped then when ever but as soon as possible ;D..

After 12 weeks i think it's to late it's a human ;D..But in some cases you should abort after 12 weeks..

Anyways when do you think we should abort..

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Once it's a human it's too late..But when is too late you decide? ..So we can all decide..

Some cancer for you all :D :D :D :D :D 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ::) ::) ::) :D had too..

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arr well he as already signed it..

Donald Trump's Anti-Abortion Executive Order - YouTube
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRCcsK9jIp8

Bye bye mr trump 4 years and your gone..BIGLY NOT SMART.

I can understand not funding other nations abortions BUT your own country..
Fucking nuts..
Unwanted babies with guns millions of them  :D

Congress block his order over abortion..He is bigly not smart on the abortion subject..

Mr trump ARE YOU BIGLY STUPID?..

Hospitals and physicians' offices cost more than clinics. Across the board, prices increase as pregnancy progresses. The National Abortion Federation found that the average price for an abortion (medical or surgical) performed between six and 10 weeks is $350 at an abortion clinic and $500 at a doctor's office.

That unwanted child will cost the tax payer 75k a year if in jail..

500 dollars compared to 75k or millions in courts and so on..
forensic scientist after the crime cost a penny..

Mr trump are you that FUCKING STUPID :-\..
For the sake of 500 dollars..

Contraceptive Pills £22.74 for so many you can buy them even cheaper..But imagine government buying in bulk easy cheaper..

I kid you not the population will explode in America and your country will turn to shit..
Enjoy America if no abortion..

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Do you want to add more to the population ?

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Much more readable without the little yellow faces.

Thanks.

Your welcome..^

Now back to what i was about to say..

These bums should get a job to support themselves so they can pay for an abortion?..

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I suppose they could bring up unwanted children here?.

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YOU YANKS MAKE ME SICK SOMETIMES..As soon as i would of seen him i would of give him my coat and money..
You should be ashamed of yourselves >:(..

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You yanks are fucking dip shits Christian nation what a fucking joke..
Yes you should be ashamed..

As the center of the world leader, for uncivilized social phenomenon has been cured, should lead people to change (to fight for your rights and responsibilities), and not in favor of and put into action, this character is really low. Men are fighters, there is no woman's kindness and love, the damage will be greater than the construction. Far away from the world, there have been a large number of female political leaders, on the phenomenon, personally think that this is a manifestation of human civilization

Who says you have to use only one method of contraception? If you really don't want to have children combine condoms and pills. Hell, combine condoms, pills and pull out. ;D
Most methods are perfectly fine. Plain old rubbers give you like give you like 95% protection and then if it breaks you have emergency contraception that you can take the next day.

If you're 20 years with the same person, having a baby shouldn't be the end of the world.

There's been studies showing that abortions actually have positive impacts on the economy. It prevents single mothers from staying in poverty (by not becoming mothers of an unwanted child), they prevent more children from being born into poverty, they reduce crime as links have been made to the socio-economic impacts of mistake/accidental pregnancy.

All of this from the party that supposedly preaches fiscal conservative, fighting crime, and keeping government out of the lives of citizens. Such hypocrisy.

Crime generates substantial costs to society at individual, community, and national levels. In the United States, more than 23 million criminal offenses were committed in 2007, resulting in approximately $15 billion in economic losses to the victims and $179 billion in government expenditures on police protection, judicial and legal activities, and corrections

No abortion $25 billion in economic losses to the victims..

$259 billion in government expenditures on police protection, judicial and legal activities, and corrections..

You will easy pay that much more EASY..
So why should you pay for abortion..

On average, Planned Parenthood receives approximately $500 million a year in taxpayer funds in USA..

The total bill for a Caesarean section, meanwhile, tops $50,000, according to Truven Health Analytics. The delivery alone costs an average $10,000 in the US, while a Caesarean delivery costs over $15,000, according to the International Federation of Health Plans (IFHP..

So the tax payer pays the pregnancy cost delivery alone costs an average $10,000..
Then the unwanted child needs educating and social care..

Last year, children in the foster care system in the United States stayed in care ... In New York State, it costs an average of $29,000 per year to keep one child in care ..

pregnancy 10k..
$29,000 per year to keep one child in care..600k or more till it's 21..

Then if it does crime when it's left care.. $25,000 a year to jail..20 years in jail 500k..

so add it all up 1 child cost the tax payer easy without the court cases even added..

1.1 million dollars..

Now for every 100 abortions say 20 children become bad criminals..

22 million dollars off 20 children going through the system from birth to care to a thief..

100 times 500 dollars is 50k..50k to pay for 100 abortions..

And if 20 of those unwanted children become criminals easy 22 million dollars to the tax man..
It easy more because of court cost they cost the most when the criminal goes to court before he is jailed..

So to ALL these DUMB PEOPLE who complain why should i pay my taxes for someone else mistake ..
Think before you open your mouth DIP SHITS..

ALL FACTS I SHOWED YOU..
But to be honest it's all 5 and 10 years ago i bet it cost well more now 5 to 10 years later..

22 MILLION DOLLARS..For 20 unwanted children that go through the system..
And you want more  :D..

Donald Trump's Anti-Abortion Executive Order - YouTube
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRCcsK9jIp8


It says in video above 607.5 million dollars was spent on int'l family planing last year..
It stopped 6 million births..
Now to make it in life just say half make it?..But we all know it's about 1 in 4 go on to do well in life..

So imagine out of 6 million say half do well the rest don't?..

Now 3 million are on the bread line? to just pull the baby out from the women's pussy cost 10k
Now 3 million times 10k is 30 thousand million..

30 billion dollars to pull 3 million unwanted babies out of women's pussies..

So each year your saving because of family planning 29 billion 400 million dollars..

And the children have only been pulled out of a pussy..
What about it's living or it's a criminal?..

I mention pussies because you like to grab them so much i thought you would understand better..

Man get back to fucking school and do the math ;)..Video above do the math..

So go on pay 29 billion more because you cancelled family planning..DAFT PEOPLE..

Go on do the math 6 million births stopped ..If 6 million extra children per year how many will go on to do well?..

For every child born to start cost 10k to pull the unwanted baby from the mothers womb..

Now a pill would of saved a lot of money..But an abortion at 500 dollars saves at the least 600k child in foster care 29k a year..21 years even 5 years saved some bucks..

So mr trump you are making your self look stupid by saying you will save money..
29 billion added to the tax man when abortion becomes banned..

And all those jobs created to pay for unwanted children what a waste of time..
Should of stuck to grabbing pussies and the apprentice..

In the USSR, abortion was regarded as a family planning method. During the 70s and the 80s, the number of abortions performed there were more than double the number of births. You can't dictate that someone should use a particular type of contraception. Also, it is up to the couple to decide whether they want to use contraception or not. And using contraceptive pills can sometimes cause health problems for the women.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Please everyone just look at that xD

Ok I get it now, taking money from people in the form of taxes to redistribute wealth is a crime, but telling people when they should have a child is good.
Glad to know if I'm with someone for 20 years I shouldn't care about having a child.
You have other Life guidelines that should apply to everyone?

I think all welfare should be gone.

Why do you want to fund abortion organizations, so that women wont have kids, so then you dont have workers, and then the pension system collapses :D

What morons are these leftists anyway, they are destroying themselves with their politics.

The USA was great in the 1800, when none of this crap existed.

Ah the good old days
When a sixth of the population was slaves
When you had no electricity nor cars or planes
When you could be raped and killed and raped again anywhere and no one cared
When you wouldn't have to pay for retirement because no one got older than 45 anyway

The good old days.

How is it possible that trump supporters on this board are such smart?
Every single one of them make arguments that only a 500 iq human could make.
Compared to them Einstein would look like a mongoloid.


Pull it out... really...

No wonder muricans need a state funded abortion program.

::)

Abortions should be performed without any fees at least for the American citizens. For the government, it is better to have an one time expense of $5,000 or $10,000, rather than spending close to $500,000 in welfare payments later. Also, the world is overpopulated and therefore we should be looking at ways to reduce the population.

stupid person.. AI ROBOTS will take most jobs very soon..

I am sorry but some people on here with so called degrees are thick as shit when it comes to life..

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And it only cost 500 dollars for an abortion..10K to deliver a baby by a doctor..

So pay 10k for an unwanted child and that's when it's only born it's got to live yet..
Or 500 dollars for an abortion..

So do the maths dumb shit..WHAT A FUCKING DICK BRAIN..

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Through family planning 6 million unwanted babies were not born in the USA..

Number of babies aborted each year worldwide -- 50,000,000.

We need to lower the population of the planet and keep it at a certain level..
No family planning with today's technology millions upon millions of people with no jobs..
No jobs what do you do?..CRIME

So Mr trump don't you dare not pay for family planning..
You will destroy your country.

Who are the people who mostly get an abortion the POOR..
Who are mostly the poor in your country?..

BLM oh they fucking will do in 20 years if no family planning..

They will butcher you white folks up..Unless they all got jobs or universal income then they will all be calm..
Only the odd few will be pissed with life..

Stop thinking life is all candy clouds and roses..It is for the few but not for the many..

You want to put many more unwanted people on to the market.. ???

So MR TRUMP get smart and pay for family planning..
If you cancel family planning YOU ARE A DUMB ASS STUPID CRAZY DIP SHIT..
Who will destroy his country not make it great..

So good night and av a nice day..Congress stop the abortion bill from going through..

Trump BIGLY WRONG ON THAT SUBJECT..BIGLY BIGLY WRONG..

Also STDs will spread through your land like no tomorrow if no family planning..

So just think Mr trump the amount of pussies you have grabbed if no family planning your hand might of fell off by now because she could have an STD..
Well you wouldn't know you just grab them..So to late your hands fell off..

Yes, in the 70s and 80 when methods of contraception were less advanced and less available. We should be going forward not backwards, we are not animals and can plan for the future. Abortion is not an act of squeezing a pimple and should not be treated like birth control.



Redistribute wealth? Another communist...
Yes you shouldn't be worried that after 20 years of screwing your woman you finally gave her a child. What do you think having sex is for?
I have a guideline for you: Don't want to have a child, use contraception or don't fuck.  You could also grow up and put your communist mind into something constructive instead of thinking how to "redistribute" other people's money and kill unborn children because you were too lazy to wear a condom.

A communist mind don't give you free money to do what you want with.

A communist mind cannot tell his leader to GO AND FUCK HIMSELF ..

A communist mind cannot leave his country without asking the leader..

A communist mind is a dumb ass..

How do you make people be happy?..MONEY

Just enough to pay a few small bill helps people get on better without worries..
Stress will make humans do some crazy shit..
And money worries to just pay for a roof over your head is major stress which will cause a human to do crazy
shit..

I do not speak for myself i will be doing very good in life..
I worry for the future children with AI robots.
It will take many many jobs away from humans..

A human will think of something else to do?..
No AI WILL THINK OF THINGS BETTER AND FASTER..
The robot will make it faster and cheaper..

A human will only be needed in a few industries..
Because it only cost me 30k for 15 years work..A human 30k a year..And he is slower..

Paloma faith..A pop singer worth at least 5 to 10 million..She used the NHS to have her baby..

Kate price model worth at least 20 million our government pays for her handicapped child for travel and stuff
and she claims it all of welfare..


Companies worth billions getting subsidised by governments..Getting billion in back handers to keep business
in a country..SO WHO IS THE BUMS..

Politicians getting 175k a year for talking bullshit..Plus free education in top schools free health care..
All paid by the TAX MAN..

I am a bricklayer and i pay my taxes..And i pay the local politician to sort out problems in my area..

Life will get hard for the many easy for the few..

All paid by the tax man..Sorry paid by ME and others FUCK THE TAX MAN he as got nothing if i stop work..

I am sure that Donald Trump first action is good but it need to be redesinged because some girl which are victims or some crazy man which had sex with some girl but she didnt give him access for sex she could become prenant and she have a baby but she even dont wanted a sex.She was attacked by other man which have sexual problems so in that position girls need to have right for abortion.But like example when girl want sex and when she decide if she will have or not have sex then I would block them right to make abortion because in this world there are more and more girls which want only a sex and dont care about a person with which they had sex so my final answer is to that low I agree 50/50% it need a little correction to make that law perfect.If he redesign it it can good affect to baby population then it will be less one night sex and more serious relationship.It will not be broken world with one night relationship and then forget a partner.

 As we can see, Trump, can be one of the best but strict president of the United States. He rules the whole United States, he can declare or enforce law by his own declaration, we should still respect what laws he will declaring, we all know that he is like hitler who is very strict president.

Well I am glad we figured that all out.

i am confused as hell.  last that i was aware of, abortion was legal, providing certain criteria are met.  am i wrong?  if not, what is he changing?  also, i am not being mean here, but i know that within five miles of this office, there is a planned parenthood office with a heaping basket of condoms.  there are free to take as many as you want.

i will grant you that i believe this city of 100,000 people may only have that one planned parenthood location.  it is mildly rural in some parts and it may be hard to get to for some people, but the effort is there.  i do think that there can be changes made as far as birth control.  i would like to see the local drug stores subsidized to hand out free condoms, there are more than 500 CVS and Walgreens pharmacies in this same city.  I would hope the school would hand out some free condoms if a student asked and i would hope that this would be done without automatically alerting the parents. 

there are improvements that can be done, but our "sheriff" controls the city counsel and would rather attack sexual things versus build a system of safer environments.  if a young person or anyone has decided to have sex, it is going to happen despite whatever education or other method is put there to stop it.  i would rather have my kids have protected sex behind my back than unprotected.

Basically you are seeing the orchestrated beginnings of a "hate trump" campaign based on disinformation and outright lies.  Expect it to continue on and on and on. 

Abortion is legal as you mention.

yeah, as far as i knew, as long as ...

1. You are less than 5 months pregnant
2. Use a certified abortion doctor/clinic

you are ok.

i am sure that there are some specific regulations for girls/women under the age of 18, but not sure. and i understand that any abortion comes with a few minutes of forced canceling

now, that is the legal part and i do agree that a human has the right to make certain choices, but that being said......i know that there are vast numbers of families that outright pay for a woman to continue their pregnancy and allow that family to adopt the child.  I worded it wrong for the law, the woman cannot be PAID for a baby, but her expenses are covered and she will receive a large amount of money after the baby has been adopted, legally those funds are called very different things, but you get the idea.  i see very few reasons why a woman that does not want to keep her baby, for whatever reason, cannot take part in one of these adoptions.  there are circumstance that each singular case may consider, but i would highly encourage any woman that is considering abortion to consult an attorney for free and see if she can find an alternative.  Yes, i am a man and cannot even get close to understanding the woman's point of view, but i this is my opinion.

Sorry but I think what Trump did is right but on the other hand I agree with you that we must control the birth rate arises per country but not in the way of abortion , It is their  responsibility !,  and the child must not suffer over the wrong doing of his parents ! Family planning is a must but abortion is like killing your own son before he/she even lives .

i think that here in the usa it is like the cost of other "medical".  if i go to the health department and tell them i need a tooth pulled, they will send me to the health department dentist and they will have a look and then tell me it is say $50 to have it pulled.  they say this and nothing else, i went with someone last year. Now, without the dentist providing this info, if the patient says they do not have the $50, the service can be provided for no cost.  it is like a riddle, they will not offer the free service, will not mention it and will indeed ask for a small fee compared to normal medical costs, but if despite that the patient has the sense to ask that exact same doctor/dentist, then the service can be without cost

Sure, just remember this is really just propaganda efforts in trying to gen anti-trump sentiments.

A lot of lying going on.  Planned Parenthood has long been a sore point for the conservatives.  The entire issue is understandable without the falsehoods and properly understood, some will be on one side and some on the other.

So what?

an awesome change that would really help here would be a "temp foster" program for young girls.  right now, if a 18 year old girl gets pregnant, she has the option of trying to continue improving her life through school or whatever while raising a child or giving it up completely.  it would be nice if she had an option where a foster home could care for the baby while she takes a period to finish school or college and then she could be provided an opportunity to take over.

perhaps she could go through a short program and/or process that would decide if she is ready for her child to be returned or not.  but, as it stands, the moment she puts that child into the states hands it is likely she will never see her child again.  it can be a tough set of choices, should she try to do college and raise a child?  go straight into the job world without college and try to raise the child on a much lower wage? or give up her child, get her shit straight and never see her child again..

I am not really agree with abortion, you should be responsible when you decided to have a sex, the baby is innocent why would you kill the baby, so i think Trump did the right thing this time

Abortion is not a moral thing and it is unjust. It is killing an innocent life. Trump is right when he says no to abortion it is very humane and act of upholding morality. Abortion is not an answer to overpopulation, the main answer in overpopulation starts with the family. The government must focus on the morality of the family and the virtues of the children, and with it sex will be sacred and overpopulation will no longer a problem.

Abortion has nothing to do with women or sexism, it's one of the most reverse psychology move around. It's mostly done at convenience of men.

For the woman, once pregnant, going full term or not, she's f***ed (both literally and figurative), for the guys is a great way to dodge the responsibility and expenses of having a son.

Still, Trump didn't outlaw it, so the article is pure propaganda... the sort of propaganda made by the press that works against it.

Abortion is not equivalent to murder. A fetus is not an independent living being. It's life depends on the mother. So it is up to the mother to decide whether she want to keep the fetus or not.

1st act as Pres was to repeal Obamacare... watched it live.
btw...
Did you miss the part where Trump is Pro-Life?  Where do people get this crap?

Days after the Women's March on Washington, the Trump administration and Republicans in Congress launched attacks on public funding for women's health care.

On Monday, President Trump reinstated the global gag rule, which strips all US funding from foreign aid groups that counsel patients on abortion. Rather than decrease abortion rates, the move is likely to increase them, devastate the global health system in the process, and leave millions of women across the globe without access to either safe abortion or contraception.

And on Tuesday afternoon, House Republicans voted 238-183 to permanently ban US women, too, from receiving any federal financial assistance for abortion — whether they are insured through public programs like Medicaid or if they purchase private health insurance on the Affordable Care Act exchanges.

So the poor will not be able to get an abortion?..
When it's the poor who need the money to get an abortion..

So enjoy your crazy country because it's about to explode with unwanted children with GUNS..

Trump still better than Clinton..

But he is BIGLY WRONG on the abortion subject..
But we will soon see who was right..

Just think you will be adding more of this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYDHa31HiaQ
14 Aug 2016

ENJOY YOUR COUNTRY USA.. :D

OH do you want to bet it will happen if no abortion for the poor..

The blacks will wipe the whites out and then the Latin american and blacks will fight it out to see who owns AMERICA..

You don't see it happening I DO..Not saying 100% it will happen BUT a very good chance it will..

No abortion then your in shit street..

Bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllshit.

You talk like some evil person that wants to destroy humanity.

No the planet is not overpopulated, not at all, according to some estimates, the planet can easily sustain 1 trillion humans.

And the population growth is already slowing down due to the use of condoms, and lack of desire for a family in a free choice world.

Besides how the fuck are you going to pay for old people's pensions (who are now living until 90, not 60 like it used to be 50 years ago) if you dont have new kids in the world?

Bullshit to you my friend?..
Just go and empty your rubbish in the garden and see how much you gather in 1 year..
Then think all that rubbish needs dumping..
Then the bleach and chemicals that get dumped in the sea..
Then the roads with cars on will be over run ..

THE PLANET IS OVER POPULATED..You are not looking at the big picture..

Where are you going to accommodate all these 1 trillion people? And I really suspect that we don't have enough farmland to feed this much people. Even now, almost all of the arable land in the world is under cultivation. And yet, we struggle to feed 7 billion people. Imagine what will happen when the population hits 1 trillion.

We could if we had free energy..
LED lights Or HPS growing food all year day and night..In tower blocks ;)..
Floors upon floors of food..

Also with free energy we could burn all the rubbish and split all the carbons and separate them and use them to make other products..

WIN WIN

I think that to attack aborption like is a good thing, indeed I suppose that every women take absorption if they want because it's their bodies. 

And the population growth is already slowing down due to the use of condoms, and lack of desire for a family in a free choice world.

Because of family planning..They wont have free choice if no abortion ..
They be tied down to the baby with no money..Then your not free..

Stop talking through ones butt..

Don't stick your dick in a bee's nest.

If you cant afford to fuck, then dont fuck.


But quite frankly raising a baby is easier than sustaining old farts. A baby is able to work in 16 years, while a fart goes to pension at 60 and lives until 90.

So its easier to pay for a kid 16 years than for an old fart 30 years.

old farts..Something you have yet to experience.. Sounds like you have already become one..

Maybe you need to privatize some govenrment land that is just sitting empty, without being cultivated.

There would be a lot of unemployed people who would not mind some farmwork, if they had a job there.

Fucking regulations, that is what is destroying the economy.

Dont fucking blame it on innocent children, your own leftist bullshit that your ancestors left to them is what the problem is.


I'd rather cut the fucking pensions from them, that's what they deserve. But leave the children alone.

But leave the children alone. i could imagine that's exactly what will happen with no abortion..
Especially in america..

You leave them alone that much you do nothing..

that is what is destroying the economy.NOPE..

It's the fact that the few end up with the money..
A government puts 1 billion on the market..Then by the time everyone as payed there bills to the few.
I.E
gas company..
Electric company..
landlords..
travel company cars and so on..
And the tax man from your wages..

5 people I.E COMPANIES have zapped 70% of my money..

So 70% of all that billion put out by the government as ended up in 5 companies hands..

Now because 70% of all the money is back in 5 persons company bank accounts ?..

The government needs 1 billion to keep the economy running so needs to borrow money to replace the 70%
back..
So as time goes on the few keep getting the money and keep putting our future children in debt..
Like a 1 dollar burger costing 5 dollars and your child's wages haven't gone up to compensate for the rise of the burger..To pay the debt back..A home 20 years ago cost 50k now can cost 1 million..
so as time goes on the few get it all then one day the many wont work for what things cost..
Then the economy collapses ..Even the rich will loose all there money..
But if your clever you buy land and gold and what not..

But how many people do you know who can afford to just go and buy land when ever they feel like..

We need a universal income for all rich and poor..No questions asked..

Create more companies, why are there only 5 in the first place?







Cut the costs. There are too many useless things the tax money is spent on.



Yes it's called having a business. Everyone should start up a business, and then everyone would have a job.

You can't take away the pensions. This is a very insane idea. The pensioners have paid taxes to the treasury for many decades, and it enabled the government to undertake various welfare and infrastructure projects.

First of all it's still better than to legalize abortion, as pointed out above (a new human can work in 16 years, while a pensioner has to be taken care of of 30+ years)


Secondly, pensioners take out 3-4x more from the pension system, than they have put in. I have seen people go to pension at 50, while only working for 15 years, how do you put that?

Pension system should be eliminated in my opinion, and old people should be taken care of by their family, who would get a huge tax deduction without having to pay pension tax, and actually afford to do so.

First of all you don't have to quote last post every time you write something. It's obvious that a post without quotes is referring to the one above it.

I agree that the pension system is stupid, mainly because of 2 reasons:
1. It's involuntary, so the money for your pension is deducted from your wage whether you want it or not. This is against the principles of democracy, because you should have the right to decide whether you want to receive pension or not.
2. If you die young the money you've paid on your pension are lost.

I quote because if I dont they dont get notified of the reply, if they have that enabled in the forum settings.



3. You get out more than you pay in, which means it's a deficit system

4. You have to have new workers joining the labor force to pay out the old guys who have higher and higher life expectancy, which means it's a ponzi scheme

5. There isn't actually any funds in the pension fund, it's not like it's a segregated fund that is managed by a fund manager. It's just a tax that you pay in, which money goes into the treasury of the government, and the money they pay out gets paid directly from taxes. (It's just another excuse to pay people.)

6. For every 1$ paid into the "pension fund", a pensioner might only get 0.5$ worth of pensions, because there is an overhead cost, to pay out bureaucrats and so on.



In short, it's a disaster, and it will collapse society with it. It's unpayable, and it distorts the economy heavily.

I suppose you understand my arguments, because not everyone in this forum is capable of understanding rational arguments.

99% of people here are just too emotional, or arguing from emotions, instead of looking at the cold hard facts.

Cut the costs. There are too many useless things the tax money is spent on. :-*

According to the report, the United States gave Israel $3.1 billion for Fiscal Year 2016 in direct bilateral military aid (also referred to as Foreign Military Financing or FMF). Congress also gave $487.6 million to "joint" U.S.-Israel missile defense programs (designed to protect Israeli territory from potential outside threats), bringing total military aid to Israel to $3.6 billion per year.

Put another way, American taxpayers give Israel $9.8 million per day (in 2016).

If everyone has a business then who are the masses to sell too?..
Millions upon millions will also sell the same as you in your own country..

Now to invent something then sell it is another argument?..It's very hard to invent something..
Because if it was so easy we would all be inventors..Yes we would.

Because most people do try to think of something to invent so we can become RICH..
To invent something everyone wants is one thing HUMANS do try to do?..
But many fail..

But that's life so do we just kill the rest who cannot think of a business?..

Also does MONKEY BUSINESS COUNT?..It is a business?..

That is to stop the crazy terrorists from the middle east, I think that is one of the best spent tax money out of the entire budget. Besides I like Israel, it's the only civilized part of the middle east, the rest of it is filled with middle age barbarism and violance.

Most tax money is usually spent on crazy things like:  huge pensions and bonuses for bureaucrats, wealth redistribution schemes, and the rest of it.

I would like to see a cut on spending of 90%, that would free up some capital that has been kept locked for some time.




Businesses can sell between eachother, and you still consume as a person beyond your business. It would be a much better world if everyone were a businessperson, and would trade between themselves.

If you cant think of a business idea, you just sell yourself as a private contractor for a business. It's that simple.

Everyone would have an income, and we dont need this basic income communist bullshit, that I have been seeing on this forum from quite some time now.


This Resource Based Economy Communist nightmare  ???

Are you living in a communist country?

In capitalist countries the pensionsystem dont work like this.

Put this person in as president ..
He can sort all the problems of the world by showing everyone how to run a successful business..

I VOTE THIS GUY FOR PRESIDENT..

Now any chance you could send me a PM with my business please i cannot wait to start..
Ok i just bought a new suit and tie ..Now don't forget to send me my business..
OH i forgot to mention i am skint no money..So will you also send us some money please..For travel ;)..

I will show you how to make money ;)..

Andrei Arlovski vs Francis Ngannou

Francis Ngannou to win..

VALENTINA SHEVCHENKO  V  JULIANNA PENA

VALENTINA SHEVCHENKO to win..


WIN double Francis Ngannou and VALENTINA SHEVCHENKO..

You will double your money  ;D..

They fight after in DENVER USA..Go bet your BTC..

UFC TONIGHT..

Besides I like Israel,..Me too..But the whole argument is about sending money to other nations..
You know like saying why should our country pay for another country?..

Now for the fact no birth control more people will be attacking Israel in the future ..
So you will be sending more money to compensate for the more children who will attack..

Also why don't people just say there jewish  ???..
If i lived in the middle east and had a choice Hmm hav ??? a nice life over that wall or live in this shit
i would become a jew.. :D :D..Are you jewish YES now give us me fucking money :D :D..

I mean some of the jews look more ARAB like than some of the Palestinian people..
Who the fuck would know..

Anyone can pretend to be into another religion..So what ever is the best religion that gives the best use your thick sculls and go along with it..

Look what happened to the guy when he pretended to be into another religion..
george soros..He done well

I hope you listened to popcorn ;)..SHOW ME THE MONEY BABY :D..THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE MONEY..

WIN WIN WIN ;D..YES THEY BOTH WON..

Of course they do, all pension systems are run like this. Read the documents especially how they work in the eu.

Its something like 30% paid by the employer, 30% by you, and 30% by the taxes, or something liek that, I dont know exactly.

But it is a deficit system that is for sure, more money goes out than it goes in, and the debt is accumulating exponentially.

Even if there is some "fund" that is managed, they only buy bonds with it, and negative yielding bonds in the EU are not very good isnt it?

I am against the ban of abortion. Firstly to have an abortion or not is a private matter women. What right anyone has the right to dispose of the fate and health of women? Secondly, if it had not been forbidden to do abortion then maybe this clown Trump was not

Well, for starters it's more expensive to support and educate a kid up to 16 yo than an old fart for 50 years. The early ages of a person is when more resources are needy.
Then, Social Security is a ponzi scheme, no doubt about it, however you're missing the nature of money, and money is actually nothing. You see central banks buying most of bonds, meaning the issuer is taking debt on what itself somewhat "produces", but they do this to prevent devaluation for a while. Unlike bitcoin, that is controlled by the whole community and has a supply celling, money issuing is controlled by a few and has no limit on it. The whole attempt of money is to represent and limit resources access. And it isn't linear;
"oh, but with 1 million euro you can buy 1 ton of gold (assuming 1Kg of Gold is 1000€)"... Surprise! You don't! As you start buying the price will go up as the physical resource is being depleted more and more of your virtual resource will be needed to buy it. The same will happen for whatever limited resource you may try to get with your virtual money.
So don't get too much attached to money, you'll miss the big picture. The contribution to the system isn't so much about deficit I/O, but to prevent it from giving money for nothing, giving money for nothing will make a society to self-destruct with so many lazy people as well as devalue the currency to zero.

Back on topic;

I understand abortion for medical issues, it's senseless to put the woman life to risk, rape or severe formation issues with the baby. On demand, just until it isn't a viable baby, pass this point is plain murder.
But again, how is it set to be a women decision? What data provides us that figure? How about external pressure - social, family, the father of the child - to abort? Is it still a "woman's choice"'? Or is it just convenient to pass it that way?

The policy enforces a ban on providing federal money to international groups that perform abortions or promote the option.

What is the fuss. All Trump has done is stopped Americans' taxpayers from being forced to fund abortions or promote outside the USA.

Has abortions been made illegal in the USA? AFAIK it hasn't.

This has not happened yet, but Trump is openly throwing a challenge to the entire society. This old clown wants to show that he doesn't care about public opinion around the world and he will do whatever he wants.

It is complex. For example, there is an NGO which provides free medical care to poor rural people in Tanzania. It also performs abortions, if the women can't afford to go to the private hospitals to perform them. It will be unfair to stop all the funding to this NGO, given that only a small part is used to perform abortions.

On the other hand, if abortion isn't necessary to save the life of the mother, abortion is murder. Why should people be forced to pay for the murder of other people?

8)

I suppose you were addressing my posts, so please quote me next time.

1) No, it's most expensive to educate people in government schools, however if they were going to private schools, it would be more cost effective

EX: Not learning biology and other useless subjects when you will become a car mechanic anyway. Efficient learning is cheaper, and more productive later on to society.


2) Even if a child is more expensive to raise, he still has the whole life of him to ROI. In other words, if you raise a kid for 16 years, and at 16 he cames up with a revolutionary idea, and becomes a millionaire, then that is very good for you as a parent, because you know that your golden ages will be secured by your kids' money.

EX: Like how Vitalik invented Ethereum as a young guy, he made a lot of money, and his parent are probably satisfied with him.


3) An old person doesnt really generate any more ROI, because his best ages are behind him, however if he would have been a good investor, he would already be rich by then.

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You know I am not against old people. I just dont like leftists, and leftist economics.

The way society would work is, that by the time you get to retire, you should be rich enough to support your own late ages, without having to rely on pensions.

I actually want people to succeed in life, but the guy above you probably just thinks that I am an evil person that doesnt care about old people, whereas I actually want old people to be rich.


Tell me something ,do old people really like to live on pensions? I doubt it. But what the fuck have they done all their lives that they dont have money? Where is the fruit of their labor of their entire life? What do they leave behind to society?

What planet do you come from?

do old people really like to live on pensions?..YES THEY DO..They been saving up for their pension so they don't have to work anymore..Because their bones hurt from all the work they have been doing over a life time..

I wonder if your parents paid for your upbringing?..Did you make it by your self?..

Because someone from the real world would never speak the way you do  ;)..
And yes you are attacking the old..Everybody can set up a business and make millions :D..No they cannot.   

Free money will help everybody not just the few ;)..I have been battling with my words to get this into action..

Scotland set to pilot universal basic income scheme in Fife and ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › UK › Home News
2 Jan 2017 - A radical scheme to give every citizen a universal basic income (UBI), ... Labour-run Glasgow and Fife councils are designing trial schemes following meetings held late last year. ... Any money earned above this is subject to taxation. .... believes we must free ourselves of the notion that everyone has to work..

And if it works wales will be rolling it out..

Finland is the first major country to trial giving free money to citizens
mashable.com/2017/01/03/finland-basic-income-unemployed/
3 Jan 2017 - Finland is offering free money to some citizens as part of an experiment aimed at cutting government red tape, reducing poverty and boosting .

It's looking really good..Crime rate down save on police money.. healthy people less on hospital bills..

Less public workers clogging the system up..And wages rise because people can choose the job they want..

And those who can't afford/want to pay for private schools in time will let you know the whole price of ignorance.
Just study a bit of History, it's there to prevent the same old mistakes to surface again...

About the free money, it will slowly burn down the economy. When they get their economy to be totally worthless they will know the exact price of "free" also.

Is Tanzania a state of USA? Why should the USA taxpayers pay for this? People should try and keep their legs close.

Im pretty sure what you describe are statepensions which isnt the same as private pensions.

The reason for statepensions is just that a lot of people arent either smart enough to safe money for the old age or they dont earn enough to pay for a private pension.

The last point is not correct. Pension funds usually invest in extreme safe assets like german bonds which gives usually <<2% yield.

/edit

And even statepensions are making profit.
Look at germany: the german statepensions have around 1 billion € profit per year since the last changes in 2010 (not exactly sure about the year).

Most of the super-powers (including the United States, Russia and China) provide grants and loans to various third world nation. In return, these third world nations support the superpowers during UN voting of various resolutions and measures.

You are too stupid to argue with. And you havent even read my post, nor do you understand it.


Yes I am talking about state pensions. Most pensioners have state pensions.

Or if they have private pensions, guess what , they will be bailed in, and added to the state pension anyway.

So I would not pay into a private pension, only to find out that my money will be stolen in the next banking crisis. Fuck that.

ANd that doesn't justify why the taxpayers must fund it...

Unfortunately, Americans showed the world that they are fools and their President must be as stupid as they are. Trump worthy for this candidate! From the actions of this idiot will suffer all of America including those who were against him.

Hahaha.. You're very right my friend :D his very sexist and from the top of that he doesn't even love his wife its like make her a slave or something tell him by the way he looks at her wife >.< trump doesn't really think what the outcome of his words even he can't think of a better way to solve what really is the problem in United States but his the president >.< best of luck :D

Lol, Ive been fighting our rights as men for my whole life. I saw a lot of abusive girl as well so there were no difference now anymore however still mens abuse to woman is more dominant.

I've seen quite a few trolls not been paid as they were promised.

By the way, how much were you promised?

Recently, Russia took some very important steps to bring equality for both the men and the women.

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/news-and-views/news-features/russian-parliament-votes-3803-to-decriminalise-domestic-violence-20170128-gu0q86.html

A lot of the women were using domestic violence charges for blackmail. The latest development will put an end to it.

Actually the situation is getting pretty weird! It's not just women who start to blackmail with domestic violence charges, but men as well. Have you notice boys lately? They turn more feminine than many women I know... In short babies will be presented with a "Welcome to Twilight Zone" banner upon birth.  ;D

Sounds good? Tho i am always scared when russian government is taking actions under putin. Tho with regards to US that is a different story because they were always aiming for freedom. So basically there would be a big protest regarding with trumps decision with regards to this one. I recently saw a news about trump again disallowing migrants to their country and that leads to big protests.

According to Russian government statistics from the Interior Ministry, 40 per cent of all violent crimes are committed within the family. The figures correlate to 36,000 women being beaten by their partners every day and 26,000 children being assaulted by their parents every year.

Last year's revised law, when it took in effect in July, quickly drew opponents, notably ultra-conservative Russian lawmaker Yelena Mizulina, who called it "anti-family" and said it undermined the "right" of parents to beat their children.

Good stuff that wodka cost nothing in russia. Synergies.

I dont understand, are they criminalizing or decriminalizing domestic violence?

And what does this have to do with abortion?


In fact, lets just put it this way. People who cant abort their kids, will probably do harm to them, either by being violent angry parents, or negligent parents.

But if you let them abort, then they will become idiots and fuck again, get pregnant, and then have to abort again. And at 50 they want kids, but cant get them anymore, so they will adopt one, and become violent foster parents either way.

So the problem is not really abortion/pro-life, it's about shitty violent parents, who are probably leftists, and dont care about anyone except themselves.

shitty violent parents,..Give yourself a pat on the BACK..Finally starting to think about the real world..

BUT..That's just 1 of many other problems ;)..BUT KEEP TRYING..
I do love you love the children so you all good with me ;D..

What about a women who have been left by their partner while pregnant?..

What would your mother have been like if your father left her pregnant and wanted nothing to do with her?..

could she have hit the drink drugs killed herself got rid of you?..
OR went mental over the loss of your father because she loved him but he never..

Or what about a child who been abused all her life..
And she as gone crazy because of the life she as had..

Or one day the women wakes up and the ALIENS have left her a baby :o... :D

Also just remember that one day you will get old..
And i am sure you would love to be respected by the young in your old age..
Tax that old farts give them nothing..Hope your not the old when they do..You still got to get old yet..

Now i am all for banning ABORTION..But i hope you will pay for that child's upbringing ?..
School college hospital bills..And also the parent that could be poor or mental needs help with the child
just in case she kills it..

So enjoy the bills rolling in for unwanted children if no abortion payed by the government ..

It will explode with children..

But we all know if most people had money they keep the baby..

Look at Madonna adopts children..Not much of a mother if she was poor what would she be like?..

Easy to pay a nanny to do the hard work with rich people..
The poor is a total different ball game..

Anti Trump Bullshit again

He does not outlaw it, just stop taxpayers money from flowing towards abortion clinics and pro-abortion ADVERTISING!!! 100% correct move. Why should taxpayers pay for idiots having too much unprotected sex? Sex is not something that happens accidentally, so pay for the angel maker yourself.

(I just hope rape victims still get help?)


"The policy enforces a ban on providing federal money to international groups that perform abortions or promote the option.

That means any US federally-funded aid group or other non-government organisation can’t assist with, recommend, give advice or provide any information when it comes to the emergency termination method."

Liars.

I read today that after 8 years American war causalties are once again....front page news....

But this time a whole lot of people have got the liars figured out.

Anti trump me :D..BUT That means the poor cannot pay for an abortion  ::)..
Some people are so stupid..

It's the poor that need the abortion DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :D..

MOST BABIES ARE AN ACCIDENT..Then the partners decide to keep it..
If one goes is it the women's fault ::)..

YOU HAVE BANNED IT FOR THE POOR..SO STOP WITH THE BULLSHIT..
Your telling me he didn't know that the rich 9 out 10 times they keep it..
He knows the poor need it the most..What poor person has 500 dollars for an abortion..?

Every 1 dollar counts to the poor..
Now some will just have them and end up on welfare with 10 children getting paid too :D :D :D..

I kid you not total DUMB ASS on the abortion subject..
He has banned it for the poor..

Imagine a shop saying buy 500 dollars worth of food and i will give you 1k worth..
Still the poor would not be able to take that offer up..Even though they would love to have the money to get extra shopping..

I can walk in a shop and buy a cooker for 300 dollars..
The poor can walk in the same shop pay 3 dollars a week but end up paying 1000 dollars for the same cooker..

NOW YOUR SUPPOSE TO BE HELPING YOUR OWN POOR >:(..

You can do what you like it's your country BUT WHAT AN IDIOT..
Trust me if was a smart move that would save you money and children's well being i be the first to say well done..BUT WHAT A DUMB ASS..

Still better than Clinton.. We could all be dead with her in :D

Although this policy does not directly affect services in the US, Mr Trump has said he supports an abortion ban at home.
His signing of this order as one of his first executive actions indicates he still sees the issue as a priority.

Now do you see i am asking not to do it..Be smart..
Some say he will some say he wont..
Makes no difference JUST DON'T BE A DUMB ASS ..Cost more to keep than abort..

More than 1.5 BILLION babies have been aborted worldwide in the past 50 years.. An estimated 50 million abortions are carried out throughout the world every


50 MILLION MORE..Every year 50 million competing for life's resources..

50 million more Rubbish dumpers every year..
50 million more cars on the road every year
50 million more homes every year needed
50 million more seats for schools every year
50 million more potential criminals every year ..
50 million more immigrants moving to our lands every year..

An average of 353,000 babies are born each day around the world.

Now add 50 million at the end of each year..About 135k more babies added everyday..
And when they are poor which countries do they end up in for a better life..

Well... if we start to look at death as a solution, then we don't need old people's homes anymore, do we? Or complaint of terrorism or Hitler or anything alike, after all they were "just reducing the population" so you can find a parking spot...  ::)

"just reducing the population" so you can find a parking spot...Well YER..
Very hard to find a good parking space in this day and age..
And the cost to just park ::)

Brought up on the streets..If everyone had a good living most peoples lives would be fine and dandy..
I know i am from the poor..

If we are becoming a capitalist planet that means all private we need to pay..
No freebies off the governments..

I come from a place that's rough on the streets like many places around the globe..
Our city used to get say 1 billion off the tax man to run..And crime was still bad we are known for it..
Now they have slashed it by 50% we get 500 million..
The shootings murders rape home invasions stabbings as gone up by 30% in the last 5 years..
And it was crazy when i was a child..BUT know :o..A kid walks in another area can get him killed..
13 year old running around with guns..
And unlike America we have none to defend ourselves..

And we have 200 every single day coming to our city on a language course payed by the government so the immigrants can stay here..200 EVERYDAY..
NO ABORTION WORLD WIDE..Be 400 a day >:(..

And then the government got the cheek to bring in BEDROOM TAX..

An abortion may cost $2,000 or $3,000. But if the kid is born and dumped in to some orphanage, then he is going to eat up at least half a million in welfare benefits. But I agree that popularizing family planning must be the first priority. As a first step, we can sterilize or emasculate ghetto/slum dwellers, who usually vote for the Democrat party.

In 1960, the richest per capita city in America, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, was Detroit. Today Detroit has filed for bankruptcy, the largest American city to do so..

There are many clinics that can offer you an abortion, all of which must be licensed, and the costs typically range from £500 for the abortion pill that you can take up to nine weeks to about £800 for abortions up to 18 weeks. For abortions after 18 weeks you can expect to pay up to £2000.

sterilize or emasculate ghetto/slum dwellers, >:(..At least ask ;)..

emasculate..So back to the good old days when you would knock the shit out your wife ::)..
Make sure those god dam boots are cleaned you wench..

To MR Trump you put your trust in this guy..BOOM BOOM SHAKE THE ROOM..
WOW..Your statue will be built .. This guy could be the best president you have EVER HAD ;)

 Trump told me to investigate what ever i like▶ 1:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm4-YyPo1Xk

He is for the people no 2 ways about it..My belief in trump now has gone up many many fold..
Thanks Mr trump..Always had faith but been proved now..
I can understand you wont do everything i like BUT your doing a great job up to now..


And to the UK Don't you dare turn Mr trump down >:( >:(

Yeah i think so too. Lets face it abortion directly hits people's morality but nowadays, i think it economical to control the population. But i agree that it should be considered as a last resort. I don't feel really well when it comes to aborting babies and i think people should be responsible enough to know how to protect themselves if they know they're not ready. A lot of people who actually wants to have children can't have children so people should take this reponsibility seriously

View Americans how do you relate to Russian!!!! Anyone else have doubts that Russia is the enemy? And I suggest to sterilize and castrate you Russian not to produce such aggressive fascists!

Yes but you just want to punish babies for the mistakes of the parents. That is a very shitty position.


Allimony.




Who cares, you dont punish the kid for 1 bad romance event.





This is why i dont like to debate leftists, they come up with nonsense like this  :D

A child in my understanding this is after birth. Before birth is a fetus. Who gave the right to this senile old Trump to decide is women what to do with her fetus. If not previously banned abortion then maybe Americans are not obsessed with Trump

And what gives women the right to do whatever they want with their fetus?

Especially murder, because we are talking about women murdering their fetuses here.


Life is sacred, if life isnt sacred, then what is? A society that doesnt respect human life, is a deplorable degenerate society that will quickly collapse on itself, and cause misery and chaos.


This is the ultimate test of human morality: do people respect life or not?


If leftists cant respect human life, then they should not come crying about being anti war, and things like that because, they have no place to criticize warmongers, as they are murderers as well.

HAVE YOU ADOPTED A CHILD?..

If your so concerned then maybe you should adopt some of these unwanted children..
So you can spend some of your money on them..
Or even give 100 dollars a week to save the children..

Nothing worse than someone who says abortion is wrong because he as no clue of why they get rid of the baby in the first place..If all was good they keep it..

And all this because he got brought up right by his parents in a nice home and environment and then wont adopt or spend 1 penny out his wages to help any of these poor children..

If your so concerned they you could donate money 100 dollars to your local children's home every week..

Now remember your the one that can make everyone a successful business so what's 100 dollars a week
out your SUCCESS ;)..

Now if you think why should I give money over or adopt then you are the biggest IDIOT I HAVE EVER HEARD..

Now when 1 day someone breaks in your home and steals your stuff don't blame the person it was an unwanted child that you wanted to live so much..
Then if it kills you or your wife and the unwanted ends up getting 50 years in jail what was the best option an abortion or letting it kill you..

And no i am not scaring anybody it's a fact..

Most children who are poor who end up on the street in this day and age will kill for money..

Which ever way you look at it THEY WILL KILL FOR MONEY.. that's what total Capitalism does..

If plenty of good paying jobs then all will be fine..Do good paying jobs out number the people ?..

I have seen things why some parents need to abort or need family planning ..
I KNOW WHAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THIS PLANET..And to get rid of abortion or family planning is not the
right thing to do..

 AI and Robots will take many many jobs..
 So many many Unwanted children roaming the streets waiting to kill for money..

I know the difference between the crime of yesteryear compared with the crime of today..

And believe me they have to be more violent today to do crime than they ever did in the past..
So unleash these unwanted children onto the world..

The kids of today just hit then ask..The kids of yesteryear would just run if seen..

So adopt or give some of your easy money..

This post is just complete horseshit, the only thing about Trumps executive action on abortion is that he is cutting the funding in which taxpayers paid to go to INTERNATIONAL efforts to support abortion in other countries. I don't know about you, but I don't want my hard earned money going to someone in Canada, Mexico, Brazil, ETC fight abortion.

I don't think it matters if you like abortion or not on this one, I just wouldn't support my money going to such a -- I guess dumb thing. 

Great, idea. Next thing people will start treating abortion like contraception.  "I got drunk and fucked some guys, forgot about it and now my belly is growing, let's abort and go on with life."  To me it's careless and immoral. What if your parents were idiots that screwed without contraception and then aborted you because it was fast, easy, legal, free and socially acceptable.


;D ;D

Why should I fix their problem?

This is the main issue that I have with leftist, they always want to pass on the responsibility to someone else.

It is they that should fix their own lives.

Got pregnant? Geez, well good luck. It's not my problem. I don't want to pay welfare for your kids. But I also don't want to see them aborted.

I want to see that fucking parent grow some balls, and assume responsibility for their kids. That is what I want.

It is their fucking responsibility, don't pass it on to me.



Stalin , Lenin, Mao, Pol - Pot, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, were totally Capitalists right? That only genocided 100 million people in total.

While Ludwig von Mises and Murray Rothbard has murdered 0 people.



They already do that. You can see people on Facebook posting after having an abortion, and they are totally ok with it, arent even shocked, they just ignore it, and go on with their lives. They even joke about it on Facebook, and make jokes about their aborted fetus as being a burden to them and so on. Just do a search in Google and see what I am talking about.

Despicable people.

No you have no idea about how this planet works ;)..
BUT maybe superman can come and save the day :D..Like your fairy tale gods..

3 doors down a family FOSTER children..They say you should see the amount of children in care as exploded
so many children that need a home..
She as got 5 fostered children right now..
Now when it come up about trump banning abortion although he hasn't done it in his own land they thought he had banned it..
They said how stupid it was to ban abortion because she knows how much these children suffer growing up..
She said be better to not be here..It's a fetus with no knowledge of being ;)..
She said it's poverty that's why most get rid..

Now for someone who really cares for children why would she say abortion is the right thing to do.?

They would never ever get rid if all was fine..

Or one day the women wakes up and the ALIENS have left her a baby..
Now to take me serious over the alien baby speech then your a bigger dick than i thought ;)..

Now because poverty as exploded government CUTS..
The poor kids on the street are getting jealous they are going around smashing and burning nice cars because they cannot afford one..

Very soon it's will be property getting vandalised in large numbers..

How ruthless armed jewel gangs are increasingly targeting rich ...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../how-ruthless-armed-jewel-gangs-are-increasin...
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Violent crime has risen by 63% in West Yorkshire - Huddersfield ...
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Violent crime in England and Wales is up 24%, police figures show ...
https://www.theguardian.com › World › UK News › Crime
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Murders up 10.8% in biggest percentage increase since 1971, FBI ...
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AND YOU WANT TO ADD MORE :o..

OH AND IT WILL GET WORSE ;)..

Soon if it carries on they will drag you out your house and steal everything and leave you for dead..

History can repeat it's self  look at FRANCE when poverty become that bad..

Or a universal income.. ;) will save us all

Then why shouldn't i tie you up and rob all your money of you and if you don't tell me were your safe is then i will cut finger by finger till you tell me were your safe is or valuables..

Now remember me and you go out to work?..
A criminal goes out to work..And if caught he faces a consequence..BUT to him it's still business..
You can call him a thief..But it's work..

Now how many work on these threads trying to scam your bitcoin?..
Well the ones with no brains use their strength and use it to rob people just like your SCAMMING DEVS ON HERE..But they use violence to get there money..

Now if no abortion then more chance to get robbed..

It is their fucking responsibility, don't pass it on to me. >:(..

PLEASE SOMEONE ROB THIS GUYS MONEY I WOULD BE SO HAPPY..

I HOPE YOU GET ROBBED  :D :D..Yer your unwanted children :D :D..

WHAT A DUMB SHIT :D..

How the fuck do you link abortion with decrease in crime?

I see absolutely no fucking connection. Because if they raise their kids, they could become criminals either way.

Stupid parents will have criminal kids, but if they don't have kids and adopt one, what is the chance that those wont become criminals?

What if the parents are the problem not the kids, have you thought about that?






Are you threatening me here? You know it's against forum rules to threaten people.

So stop making yourself look like an idiot..

I am telling you what goes on in this world WHICH YOU HAVE NO CLUE ON..
You only know a sheltered life ;)..

Why should someone pay more tax than you who as made more money than you?..
Now remember your wages don't cover that road that got built..

I make 1 billion a year and I get taxed
You make 50k a year and get taxed

Why should i on 1 billion get taxed more than you so you can drive down the motorway.. >:( >:(..

It's not right..I AM PAYING MORE TO THE ECONOMY..So you can drive and use the police and the army..
YOU BUM..

I make 1 billion a year to get taxed to pay for your shit..WHY SHOULD I..
You know like police and shit..

Those shitty people on 50k a year what a joke..They pay nothing in tax..

What if the financing you will need for you? In addition, imagine that the woman wanted to have a baby. She had no money and she didn't have the abortion. The child that she bore no one liked. He grew up a criminal and kill you. How do you like the story?

As a developed nation, the United States is obliged to grant funds to the developing nations such as Mexico and Brazil. This has been going on for the past many decades. These funds are spent on improving the healthcare in these countries. If abortion is legal in these nations, then a part of the funds go towards it as well.

I'll believe that when Saudi Arabia funds research into superior tasting bacon.

I do not believe that the United States of America have to Finance less developed countries. Can't America for its citizens to provide good and affordable health care. To help make money need and no more.

America is funding many nations due to its humanitarian goals. Though the term funding does not meat that they are sending money monthly to those countries. The fund comes in one time big time, but sad to say that they are giving away a million dollar towards other countries but they are taking away more than that. Hope Trump will change that system and I support Trump for abolishing abortion rights. The fetus has a right to life.

Oh yea, I believe you are the one who is living in a fantasy world.

I have had my fair share of negative things in my childhood, and I dont really want others to suffer too.

But you just want to abort everyone, why? Why it's the kids fault?

Do you think it's a fair solution to punish the unborn kids for the mistakes of already living people?

You are just evil.

Tell me who gave you the right to Trump, or decide for a woman has the right to life of her fetus or not. Dispose of your destiny and mind your own. Woman you're not an incubator for growing embryos!

I agree with you! I am also not living in US, but in this case I'm totally agreed with Trump, because having a baby is a blessing from above. Maybe it comes unexpected but its not a mistake or sin. So if really legalize then everyone is free to f*ck everyone then if he gets pregnant its fine just throw it like a garbage. Its really a sin for Him.

As for such means sex you offer you are probably from a Muslim country. There is practiced but for a different reason. I am against Trump and against his delusions. Trump is an evil that plunges America into the dark ages.

Abortion is very complex and difficult matter.
Many woman wants to have baby but can't because of some physical or medical reason.
Some woman tried and had miscarriage.
From other side, some woman was to young, naive and without any support when they became pregnant, so they chose abortion.
Can we simple judge them without understanding their situation?
I think that government and social services should help both type of woman.
Second group of woman should receive legal, medical and financial assistance in order to decide to have baby, and after birth of a child state should take care about these children and help first group of woman to adopt them (if their mothers can't take care about them).
Such approach is much better than punishments.
 

They are not throwing away kids like garbage. You can't compare a fertilized egg or a fetus with a baby. A baby is having a life which is independent of its own. But a fetus will not survive without the blood and nutrients from the placenta. Therefore it is up to the woman to decide whether they want to abort the fetus or not.

I think a woman is entitled to decide to give birth to her or not. The prohibition of abortion will lead to the fact that women will travel for abortions in neighboring countries. Must be a state program for adoption before the birth It will help solve the material problems of women, families who cannot have children will they have and will decrease the number of abortions.

If you ask me, that's the only think that I'm against with Trump changes, and that's for a few reasons. First would be that that family or a single mother, doesn't have the means to support that child and give it a proper life, so abortion is kind of a better option. Second, unwanted child due to carelessness of the mother due to intoxication, rape, etc.. so if that child is unwanted, it wqould be better to be aborted right then and there. Third a simple change of mind and the free will of mother, BUT those abortion should be payed from the pockets of that couple/mother/whoever is responsible for that child, so no social help unless that coup;le can't provide money for the abortion.

Also, on the side note because just like abortion, gay marriage are being attack from religion aswell and imho, they should be legal like any other marriage and should be able to adopt children, because I would rather have children without parents to be adopted into family that can provide love, money and everything else needed for that child to grow up normally rather than in various foster families or anywhere else.

I am opposed to people of same-sex marriages were allowed to adopt children. I believe that homosexuality is a deviation from the norm and these parents can raise a child correctly.

Im not living in US but in my opinion Trump did a great job for this, abortion should not be legalize. Killing an angel is a sin to God, because every baby its a blessing. Whether we are living in different we should value a life.

Yes, it's only way to solve such very sensitive and difficult issue.
Legal punishments and restrictions will not solve this huge problem in our society.
We (I mean government) should do our best to take care about pregnant woman, give them security, protection, material help etc.
If they can't take care about children, state should offer adoption for such children.
In such way, we will save this kids and make very happy couples which can't have children.

Babies don't come from thin air. If a woman knows she doesn't want to give birth, she shouldn't get pregnant in the first place.
I understand aborting, when you find out the child will be born with a defect, but it should be avoided in general.

I agree.

So are you saying that even if there is a 1% chance that the baby may be born with a defect, the woman should not try to conceive? That is not how it works. If the fetus is having a major defect, then the woman must have the right to abort it.

I think a woman should be able to have an abortion at their discretion regardless of the circumstances which it was pushed. Nobody has the right to decide for a woman what she should do. She's not a slave!

No, the woman should conceive and then monitor the pregnancy. If the baby is found to have a major defect she should be allowed to abort.
I'm saying that if she knows she doesn't want a child, because she's poor or would be a bad mother for some reason, she should use contraception instead of abortion.

Let's stop using contraceptives and have sex every day with random partners, and if a baby gets conceived we'll abort. Is that your idea of a perfect society with no moral boundaries?

You need to remember that no contraceptive is 100% effective. For example, you are using a condom and it gets punctured during the sex. What you will do? In such cases, it is better to abort the fetus.

I am generally opposed to every pig especially such as Trump stuck his nose in my business! I think a woman has a right to decide to terminate her pregnancy or not. This old impotent no avail and he thus takes revenge on women.

What president trump did was a very good step in the right direction,thousands of baby's have died due to abortions, who knows what does baby. could become in the future

This probably the only point on which I support Trump.This is not Anti-women but this is about saving a life.If you had been aborted in your mother's womb,you would not be here to read this.

I agree on this. Tho i still doubt his motives with regards to this certain proportion. However  if you are a Catholic life is really valuable more than anyrhing else

Is that the reason why Catholic nations such as Poland and Italy are having some of the lowest birth rates in the planet? I think that the fertility rate in Italy is somewhere around 1.2, when compared to 1.8 in Belarus.