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Title: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 27, 2017, 08:27:12 PM
<no, this is not another thread like that other thread - this thread is about something much more>

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-new-satoshi-nakamoto-rumors/

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Bitcoin is Abuzz With New Satoshi Nakamoto Rumors

Pete Rizzo (@pete_rizzo_) | Published on January 26, 2017 at 15:40 GMT

If the gossip at a recent invite-only bitcoin conference is any indication, news may be forthcoming in the long-simmering Satoshi Nakamoto saga.

On the sidelines of the two-day Satoshi Roundtable conference in Cancun, rumors were swirling that new developments in the 'Who is Satoshi?' story once again relate to the controversial Australian academic and entrepreneur Craig Wright, who last May claimed that he – and as many as four others – contributed to the white paper credited to bitcoin's pseudonymous inventor.

This time, however, there is said to be a potential twist to the story relating to an unknown entity that may have a claim to the intellectual property created by that group.

Major news outlets are once again said to be conducting an investigation into the story, with releases coming out as early as next month.

While interesting, the speculation is notable given that Wright's claims were later attacked by cryptographers, with even those who initially vouched on his behalf later attempting to distance themselves from their previous support.

Wright later publicly apologized for what he claimed is his inability to provide more proof defending his claims, stating at the time:


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"I believed that I could do this. I believed that I could put the years of anonymity and hiding behind me. But, as the events of this week unfolded and I prepared to publish the proof of access to the earliest keys, I broke. I do not have the courage. I cannot."

https://about.me/peterizzo

https://i.imgur.com/Dcew1Fb.png

https://www.linkedin.com/in/rizzopete/

https://i.imgur.com/VCmbyBC.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing

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Editing is the process of selecting and preparing written, visual, audible, and film media used to convey information. The editing process can involve correction, condensation, organization, and many other modifications performed with an intention of producing a correct, consistent, accurate and complete work.

The above was presented to engrain the notion that an EDITOR (more than simply a writer) of an acclaimed periodical WOULD NOT put their reputation on the line by allowing or publishing theirself any content deemed inaccurate or sensationalized, especially for the sake of garnering readers (read: clickbait) of an exponentially growing niche still rife with ongoing controversies, not to mention nation-states looking for any excuse to stifle its further expansion out of fear of disrupting the status quo in re their respective fiat-based financial systems.

As for an EDITOR, same true for the prominent person who owns the periodical, among other ventures (some connected) in said space, in this example, Barry Silbert (https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrysilbert/), graceful enough to afford its EDITOR a living overseeing other writers in making sure that nothing less than correct, consistent, accurate and complete work grace the pages of the ofttimes cited news site - CoinDesk - else he would be putting his reputation or, moreover, it and his other brands, which have several employees with families to feed, on the more than proverbial line.

Barry Silbert in no way would hire, let alone retain the likes of Pete Rizzo if they demonstrated incompetence, especially if a hire's words published on CoinDeck strongly resonates across borders influencing an exponentially growing niche still rife with ...

To cement the notion that Barry Silbert DID indeed hire a competent EDITOR, consider what other prominent colleagues are on record in stating about Pete Rizzo's competence et al.:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrysilbert/

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"Pete's a reporter's reporter. His shoe-leather reporting led to many of CoinDesk's biggest stories. He is consistent, determined and immerses himself in his beat incredibly quickly."

~Joon Ian Wong
Technology reporter at Quartz
September 23, 2015, Joon Ian worked with Pete in different groups

"Pete's work is insightful and high-quality. He always asks the right questions, and never backs down on his opinions, which makes his views extremely valuable."

~Daniel Cawrey
Marketing & Strategy - Communications @ Velocity
September 23, 2015, Daniel worked with Pete in different groups

"During the year that Pete worked as my editor at CoinDesk, he consistently impressed me with his general intelligence, keen editorial and business judgment and his effective leadership skills. Pete knows all of the nuances of a well-written story and can juggle between news reporting and feature writing with ease."

~Tom Sharkey
Data Analyst at Text100
June 23, 2015, Tom reported directly to Pete

"I worked alongside Pete in the editorial team at PYMNTS.com. Pete was 100 percent punctual, professional and determined. He was always eager to contribute ideas and pitches during our content meetings. His work was always a pleasure to read and he never missed a deadline despite last minute requests being frequently thrown our way. Pete was one of the best writers I have ever worked with, and has an excellent knowledge of the marketing and communication industry. Additionally, Pete has a great sense of humor which is an appreciated sense of relief when working in such serious work environments."

~Chanel Smith
Enterprise Product Merchandiser at Dell
December 3, 2013, Pete worked with Chanel in the same group

"I managed Pete during my time at PYMNTS.com and was impressed by the speed with which he developed a significant understanding of a very complex industry. He has an innate ability to take complex material and transform it into bite-sized nuggets of useful information, and was a huge help in revamping our SEO and social media practices as well.

While I only managed Pete for about half a year, I quickly came to view him as my right-hand man when it came to the editorial process. Pete is a hard worker, versatile editor and excellent writer and any team would be lucky to have him."

~Ben Carsley
Editorial Director at C-4 Analytics, LLC
October 3, 2013, Ben managed Pete directly

"As an editor for ContentLEAD, Pete offers the creative vision and drive that should be valued in any frontline manager. He's been able to foster a culture of accountability and success within his team since the start, playing a crucial role in the development of a team of high-performing writers. On top of that, Pete's a fantastic writer himself and a great personality to have in the office. He knows how to unite people and challenge them, and his well-rounded skill set would make him an asset to any company."

~Manny Veiga
Writer, Editor, Web Marketer
January 31, 2013, Manny managed Pete directly

"Pete is a goal-oriented editor that's able to consistently deliver results, even when outside the box thinking is necessary. It was a pleasure working with Pete because he was so reliable.

When issues arose or a strategy needed revision Pete always brought creative ideas and a tenacious attitude. He makes things work, even irrational client demands or completely out of left field content ideas."

~drew Wallace
Director of Marketing | Growth + SEO + PPC + Inbound Marketing Expert | HubSpot Alumni
January 11, 2013, drew was senior to Pete but didn’t manage directly

That all being said, rest assured that Pete Rizzo nailed it with his recent definitive exposé NOT based on rumors or hearsay that Satoshi Nakamoto WILL be revealed ere long.

In the spirits of the late Captain Stubby and Charles Homer Bill, thanks for listening.

Bruno

PS: If by happenstance my assessment is in error, than rest assured that we're all FUCKED! (read: we're ALL pawns where a queen won't even apologize to us if she inadvertently stepped on our foot (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Antoinette#Trial_and_execution_.2814.E2.80.9316_October_1793.29) as she nails our ass, arriving from across the board with fresh cake frosting evident on her sweet lips)


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: European Central Bank on January 27, 2017, 08:36:18 PM
coindesk is a shitty site that's covered blatant scams in the past and ignored or pruned comments when people call them out. i assume that's mainly because they don't give a shit versus being genuinely nefarious.

they don't have any credibility as far as i'm concerned. the idea that they're some type of journalistic torch of truth in the crypto space is a fuckin joke.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: RodeoX on January 27, 2017, 08:39:41 PM
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Bitcoin is Abuzz With New Satoshi Nakamoto Rumors

Pete Rizzo (@pete_rizzo_) | Published on January 26, 2017 at 15:40 GMT

If the gossip at a recent invite-only bitcoin conference is any indication, news may be forthcoming in the long-simmering Satoshi Nakamoto saga.

On the sidelines of the two-day Satoshi Roundtable conference in Cancun, rumors were swirling that new developments in the 'Who is Satoshi?' story once again relate to the controversial Australian academic and entrepreneur Craig Wright, who last May claimed that he – and as many as four others – contributed to the white paper credited to bitcoin's pseudonymous inventor.

This time, however, there is said to be a potential twist to the story relating to an unknown entity that may have a claim to the intellectual property created by that group.

Major news outlets are once again said to be conducting an investigation into the story, with releases coming out as early as next month.

While interesting, the speculation is notable given that Wright's claims were later attacked by cryptographers, with even those who initially vouched on his behalf later attempting to distance themselves from their previous support.

Wright later publicly apologized for what he claimed is his inability to provide more proof defending his claims, stating at the time:


So..... Nothing at all to support this? Satoshi would know how to prove his claim in 1 min. Craig has had half a year and does not even seem to know how to sign a transaction.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 27, 2017, 08:41:35 PM
key words
If the gossip at
rumors were swirling
there is said to be
a potential twist

now has the article physically seen proof at this point... nope

now we deal with the next part
Bitcoin is Abuzz
Major news outlets are once again said to be conducting an investigation into the story,

so who are these major news outlets, how did the Buzz start..

oh wait.. coindesk started the buzz and then coindesk will investigate what the buzz is about..(facepalm)
so again. knowing coindesk started the rumour. lets read the article from the start.

has coindesk employee's seen proof.
appears not.

edit: dang it rodeox u beat me to it :D :D

the only interesting part is:
"entity that may have a claim to the intellectual property created by that group."

(note: my speculative opinion based on actions seen in the past by those)
an easily possibility to happen could be
adam back hashcash
nick szabo bitgold

will try to say they are satoshi, to patent bitcoin (definetly something i see adam back doing, not so sure about szabo doing)
due to the fact that satoshi used the hashcash concept as PART of satoshi's end ingenious concept known as bitcoin.

but thats like saying all cars belong to the guy who invented the wheel's ancestors.

oh and where did some of adam backs investment come from. meaning that their is som financial motive to promote adam back.. yep coindesk CEO.
.. and the story goes roundcircle on itself


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: RodeoX on January 27, 2017, 08:46:59 PM
edit: dang it rodeox u beat me to it :D :D
I have no doubt you saw it immediately.  :D
There are no facts or even claims really in any of this.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: unamis76 on January 27, 2017, 08:52:36 PM
Only one issue with this post...

CoinDeck

It's CoinDesk. Other than that, great insight, as usual! :D


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 27, 2017, 08:55:19 PM

So..... Nothing at all to support this? Satoshi would know how to prove his claim in 1 min. Craig has had half a year and does not even seem to know how to sign a transaction.


Why would Craig Steven Wright need to sign a transaction when he could - AND DID - have a couple high-paid competent dudes in the space do his bidding, with them going to the press to reveal the pseudo truth? If the ploy fails - WHICH IT DID - wait a few months to rinse and repeat, starting anew - WHICH WE ARE.



Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: RawDog on January 27, 2017, 08:58:59 PM
<no, this is not another thread like that other thread - this thread is about something much more>

Why did you think you needed to start a new thread on the very same topic?  What a dumbass. 


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: RodeoX on January 27, 2017, 09:05:20 PM
Breaking news: Craig Wright provides photographic proof that he is Satoshi

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/d44bf9ac740cfa2e4c015e985cf20e4ec8d6fdc9/r=540/http/videos.usatoday.net/Brightcove3/29906170001/201701/2306/29906170001_5290953783001_5290938262001-vs.jpg

 :-*


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 27, 2017, 09:16:57 PM
<no, this is not another thread like that other thread - this thread is about something much more>

Why did you think you needed to start a new thread on the very same topic?  What a dumbass.  

Firstly, it's Mr. Dumb Ass to you.

Secondly, the following is your ENTIRE OP (compare it to mine above) from the other thread you incorrectly claimed is on the same topic:

WTF?  This is turning out to be pretty weird.  Why is the world starting to accept this as fact all of the sudden?  
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-new-satoshi-nakamoto-rumors/ (http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-new-satoshi-nakamoto-rumors/)

Thirdly, have you seen my doorknob? You'll recognize it because it smells differently than ALL other doorknobs.

Fourthly, why you so butthurt? First time inserting a doorknob?

Fifthly, I've never had a qualm against you, yet you seem to have serious issues with me, sentiments 100% saved for nefarious actors in this space when they wish to discredit my scammy Dumb-ass, 100% to no avail in spite of my traffic convictions disallowing me to participate on this forum in re weeding out nefarious actors. That said, please share with us your real name so that you, too, can be vetted (read: FUCKIN DOXXED), exposing which nefarious actor you are in this space.

Sixly, have you seen my doorknob? My bad! I already asked that, not sure as to why I asked it again.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 27, 2017, 09:29:29 PM
have a couple high-paid competent dudes in the space do his bidding,

jon matonis - coindesk contributor

gavin andresen, working on Bloq... Bloq funded by........ barry silbert.


-plausible theory-
im 90% sure adam backs name would be mentioned in the who is satoshi drama

it seems reasonable to assume
if only people didnt pick up on the fake sig so fast last year, we would have had the faker craig then proclaim how adam back was cough*his*cough inspiration and the 3rd musketeer.. but it had to be put back for a few months to let the dust settle. mainly because craig got outed as a fraud..

but also segwit couldnt be released in mid 2016 so the code was still resembling the real satoshi's original variables and format. but now segwit is out,(though not activated) would show it to be the complete rewrite of code in adam backs favour to now be an adam back construct.
completely different to satoshis original code. eg MAXBLOCKSIZE BASE and WEIGHT

as a way to try proclaiming bitcoin requires segwit or it isnt bitcoin, ... if this whole drama ends up as having adam back mentioned as a third musketeer.

ofcourse, adam back didnt offer any code between 2008-2013 and even though the reality is that bitcoin has not had segwit for the last 7 years so segwit or its variables/concepts is not bitcoin.. i can see core devs are desperate to retain their corporate grip on bitcoin, so its all plausible


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 27, 2017, 10:14:58 PM
have a couple high-paid competent dudes in the space do his bidding,

jon matonis - coindesk contributor

gavin andresen, working on Bloq... Bloq funded by........ barry silbert.


Oh, what a tangled web thou weaves ...

http://pulpfactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/The-Spider-Joakim-Eskildsen-Photography.jpg


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 27, 2017, 10:21:48 PM
Oh, what a tangled web thou weaves ...

have you seen how many pies barry silbert has his finger in..


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 27, 2017, 10:37:56 PM
Oh, what a tangled web thou weaves ...

have you seen how many pies barry silbert has his finger in..

I'm versed.

Speaking of pie, here's RawDog's favorite movie scene:

http://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/48/40/8bb02601168d781b507dd0b6f6723971.gif

The apple pie was baked by this dude:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7397/12807280975_f37469cf8c_z.jpg


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: traincarswreck on January 28, 2017, 01:16:22 AM
How in the fuck, is it that CRAIG is satoshi when the claim is that multiple people did the whitepaper?

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'Who is Satoshi?' story once again relate to the controversial Australian academic and entrepreneur Craig Wright, who last May claimed that he – and as many as four others – contributed to the white paper credited to bitcoin's pseudonymous inventor.

How am I the only person to see how fake that is?


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 28, 2017, 01:19:53 AM
How in the fuck, is it that CRAIG is satoshi when the claim is that multiple people did the whitepaper?

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'Who is Satoshi?' story once again relate to the controversial Australian academic and entrepreneur Craig Wright, who last May claimed that he – and as many as four others – contributed to the white paper credited to bitcoin's pseudonymous inventor.

How am I the only person to see how fake that is?

If you are, start a thread stating your claim but don't let RawDog know about its existence, else he'll bug out his eyeballs while putting you on your paper.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Hydrogen on January 28, 2017, 01:26:58 AM
There is no definitive proof of someone being Satoshi until those genesis blocks are moved.

Satoshi owns a significant quantity of bitcoin that he has never touched.

To prove they're Satoshi, they'll need to transact the bitcoins Satoshi owns.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: bitkilo on January 28, 2017, 01:43:57 AM
Another day another finding Satoshi story, at least this one has Bruno on the case, his always on the lookout for scammers and keeping our community safe, keep at it Gleb  ;)

There is no definitive proof of someone being Satoshi until those genesis blocks are moved.

Satoshi owns a significant quantity of bitcoin that he has never touched.

To prove they're Satoshi, they'll need to transact the bitcoins Satoshi owns.
If those coins from the genesis block start to move without Satoshi coming forward with 100% irrefutable evidence that he is the true Satoshi Nakamoto and what his plans are then it could be all over, panic would set in.
I for one hope the private keys to those coins have been lost/destroyed.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: traincarswreck on January 28, 2017, 02:15:10 AM
There is no definitive proof of someone being Satoshi until those genesis blocks are moved.

Satoshi owns a significant quantity of bitcoin that he has never touched.

To prove they're Satoshi, they'll need to transact the bitcoins Satoshi owns.
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.  How old are you? Seriously.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Vaskiy on January 28, 2017, 03:07:39 AM
A conflict has risen, based upon that we cannot claim a key person to be Satoshi. To get exposed is simple but at the same bitcoin and other altcoins will be in danger.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: BitcoinHodler on January 28, 2017, 03:24:24 AM
you what's funny? the fact that he says i don't want the publicity, the news sites say we don't print something we are not sure about, they claim to only say the truth, and all kinds of bullshit but they keep talking about a fraud.

signing a message with a known key is simple yet fool proof. and after all this time we have not seen any proof.

i say we shouldn't feed the trolls, the fraud, and the clickbait articles of news sites unless the next article they write contains the signed message,


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: traincarswreck on January 28, 2017, 03:25:25 AM

signing a message with a known key is simple yet fool proof. and after all this time we have not seen any proof.

Its absolutely not fool proof you fool.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: BitcoinHodler on January 28, 2017, 04:17:15 AM

signing a message with a known key is simple yet fool proof. and after all this time we have not seen any proof.

Its absolutely not fool proof you fool.

he claims he is satoshi, or at the very least he is threatening to move satoshi coins which means having access to the keys.

so can you explain to fools like me how signing the following message from a known satoshi keys is not proof, o wise one!

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Hi this is Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of bitcoin signing a message to prove my identity on 2017-1-28



Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: traincarswreck on January 28, 2017, 03:07:57 PM

signing a message with a known key is simple yet fool proof. and after all this time we have not seen any proof.

Its absolutely not fool proof you fool.

he claims he is satoshi, or at the very least he is threatening to move satoshi coins which means having access to the keys.

so can you explain to fools like me how signing the following message from a known satoshi keys is not proof, o wise one!

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Hi this is Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of bitcoin signing a message to prove my identity on 2017-1-28


you are obviously too stupid to understand.  trust me, it proves nothing to that regard.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Darker45 on January 28, 2017, 03:13:39 PM

I thought old people here already knows who Nakamoto is? Heard some and a guy who said he already knows but won't share.  :D


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: 20kevin20 on January 28, 2017, 03:37:42 PM
It'd be a sham, in my opinion, if Coindesk is the developer of Bitcoin. I wanted to create a wallet there and you have to input your legal name. I want to be anonymous, not a public Bitcoin user, you know.. these rumors also don't have any real proof though.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 28, 2017, 04:15:59 PM
It'd be a sham, in my opinion, if Coindesk is the developer of Bitcoin. I wanted to create a wallet there and you have to input your legal name. I want to be anonymous, not a public Bitcoin user, you know.. these rumors also don't have any real proof though.

coindesk is not the developer of bitcoin.. coindesk is just trying clickbait motives to start some distraction techniques to get people involved in kardasian-esq social drama to not be talking about the real roundtable discussions about real code/bitcoin issues.

in short.. real world comparison.
its like if fox news was talking about some celebrity drama.. change the channel immediatly and instead find out what new laws are trying to be passed through the senate secretly. dont waste months discussing the social drama of celebrities on the news... its all a distraction


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: OneUnderBridge on January 28, 2017, 04:35:56 PM
have a couple high-paid competent dudes in the space do his bidding,

jon matonis - coindesk contributor

gavin andresen, working on Bloq... Bloq funded by........ barry silbert.


-plausible theory-
im 90% sure adam backs name would be mentioned in the who is satoshi drama

it seems reasonable to assume
if only people didnt pick up on the fake sig so fast last year, we would have had the faker craig then proclaim how adam back was cough*his*cough inspiration and the 3rd musketeer.. but it had to be put back for a few months to let the dust settle. mainly because craig got outed as a fraud..

but also segwit couldnt be released in mid 2016 so the code was still resembling the real satoshi's original variables and format. but now segwit is out,(though not activated) would show it to be the complete rewrite of code in adam backs favour to now be an adam back construct.
completely different to satoshis original code. eg MAXBLOCKSIZE BASE and WEIGHT

as a way to try proclaiming bitcoin requires segwit or it isnt bitcoin, ... if this whole drama ends up as having adam back mentioned as a third musketeer.

ofcourse, adam back didnt offer any code between 2008-2013 and even though the reality is that bitcoin has not had segwit for the last 7 years so segwit or its variables/concepts is not bitcoin.. i can see core devs are desperate to retain their corporate grip on bitcoin, so its all plausible

Hal Finney's children might have an interest in the claim? Maybe? I cannot fathom Hal Finney not being credited as one of the "musketeers."


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 28, 2017, 04:42:22 PM
Hal Finney's children might have an interest in the claim? Maybe? I cannot fathom Hal Finney not being credited as one of the "musketeers."

hal finney was hal finney..

hal finney was not satoshi.

but yes many people did help or atleast inspire satoshi to do what he did. but none of those names are satoshi

yes hal finney helped alot and many people hold hals involvement to high regard. i rate hal far higher then i would rate adamback for instance.



Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Kprawn on January 28, 2017, 05:13:36 PM
How in the fuck, is it that CRAIG is satoshi when the claim is that multiple people did the whitepaper?

Quote
'Who is Satoshi?' story once again relate to the controversial Australian academic and entrepreneur Craig Wright, who last May claimed that he – and as many as four others – contributed to the white paper credited to bitcoin's pseudonymous inventor.

How am I the only person to see how fake that is?

If you are, start a thread stating your claim but don't let RawDog know about its existence, else he'll bug out his eyeballs while putting you on your paper.

Don't let the master Troll, RawDog get you side tracked, he does that to everyone.  ::) .... This will once again turn into a media

circus for someone, like we have seen with Dorian Nakamoto. Why will they not accept the fact that ALL of us is Satoshi Nakamoto.

CW cannot move any "Satoshi" coins, so he is not Satoshi Nakamoto.... PERIOD.  >:(


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: traincarswreck on January 28, 2017, 05:19:55 PM


CW cannot move any "Satoshi" coins, so he is not Satoshi Nakamoto.... PERIOD.  >:(
To everyone else here who isn't an idiot, this is not how logic works.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: iGotSpots on January 28, 2017, 05:21:52 PM
Does it really matter who she is and does anyone REALLY care anymore?


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: OneUnderBridge on January 28, 2017, 05:34:14 PM


CW cannot move any "Satoshi" coins, so he is not Satoshi Nakamoto.... PERIOD.  >:(
To everyone else here who isn't an idiot, this is not how logic works.
If CW could move "Satoshi" coins, would that be enough? It seems that all he would need is the actual coins to gain the profits he is seeking. What more could receiving the credit for the technology do for him?  After all, bitcoin is much larger than the name of the person who launched it. Right? Does it matter who Homer is when considering the Illiad or the Oddesey. Would those books be better if we knew more about Homer's identity?  Not so much.  Who ever moves the "Satoshi" coins gets the bigger prize in this case--it seems to me at least.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 28, 2017, 06:44:01 PM


CW cannot move any "Satoshi" coins, so he is not Satoshi Nakamoto.... PERIOD.  >:(
To everyone else here who isn't an idiot, this is not how logic works.
If CW could move "Satoshi" coins, would that be enough? It seems that all he would need is the actual coins to gain the profits he is seeking. What more could receiving the credit for the technology do for him. After all, bitcoin is much larger than the name of the person who launched it. Right? Does it matter who Homer is when considering the Illiad or the Oddesey. Would those books be better if we knew more about Homer's identity?  Not so much.  Who ever moves the "Satoshi" coins gets the bigger prize in this case--it seems to me at least.

The chronological period of Homer depends on the meaning to be assigned to the word "Homer". Was Homer a single person, an imaginary person representing a group of poets, or the imaginary author of a traditional body of oral myths? If the works attributed either wholly or partially to a blind poet named Homer, were really authored by such a person, then he must have had biographical dates, or a century or other historical period, which can be described as "the life and times of Homer". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer#Period)

Australian flim-flam man: I am homer.
Millions of naysayers: Prove it!
Australian flim-flam man: No prob! I'm meeting a man who knows his shit at my office atop a high-rise building.
Gavin Andresen: I have met The Man, and after hearing him recite the epic poem Casey at the Bat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey_at_the_Bat), I'm totally convinced that he's Homer.
G.A.'s peers: Excuse me, but that epic poem is not an epic Greek poem.
Gavin Andresen: Wait, what? But he even showed me documents proving that Casey at the Bat was originally published by some anonymous dude under the pen name "Phin" (short for "Phinney"), claiming that was one of Homer's blind sockpuppets.

<months later>

Attendee at Homer's Roundtable: This is epic! The Australian flim-flam man is about to once again prove that he's Homer. Who here has Bitcoin Magazine on speed dial so that we can relay the news? And somebody order some more Romulan Ale, for my cup runneth empty.

<a couple days later>

Epic Bitcointalk thread created:

Homer's at it again.
Lies.
Such wow.
No, lies.
No, such wow.
Let's talk about supporting different scaling solutions.
Cartoon time.
Pissing match ensues.
You have a filthy dick.
I'll suck your clean dick.
You're a flaming fag.
Yes, I do smoke.
New thread created.
Why you start a new thread?
Need more cow bells.
The misspelling of Iliad and Odyssey are introduced to throw off the scent.
Meanwhile, a portrait of Andrew Jackson is hung in the Oval Office where President Trump is playing with some red buttons, musing 'bout what would happen if he inadvertently pushed one.

http://rs95.pbsrc.com/albums/l153/Myke-JinX/Facepalm%20gallery/23j51di.png~c200


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: OneUnderBridge on January 28, 2017, 07:31:22 PM
You are too good.  And, poetic and funny and what are you trying to say anyway?  CW is in control of the narrative here, make no mistake.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 28, 2017, 08:13:56 PM
Attendee at Homer's Roundtable: This is epic! The Australian flim-flam man is about to once again prove that he's Homer. Who here has Bitcoin Magazine on speed dial so that we can relay the news?

replace to

Attendee at Homer's Roundtable: we are going to further bastardise homers poetry some more, but we need a distraction 'hey our investor coindesk can you start a rumour about some social nonsense..' maybe even something about homer or The Australian flim-flam man so no one asks about what we are destroying. becasue they will be too busy talking about homers flim flam alter ego


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 28, 2017, 09:06:37 PM
Attendee at Homer's Roundtable: This is epic! The Australian flim-flam man is about to once again prove that he's Homer. Who here has Bitcoin Magazine on speed dial so that we can relay the news?

replace to

Attendee at Homer's Roundtable: we are going to further bastardise homers poetry some more, but we need a distraction 'hey our investor coindesk can you start a rumour about some social nonsense..' maybe even something about homer or The Australian flim-flam man so no one asks about what we are destroying. becasue they will be too busy talking about homers flim flam alter ego

Quit alluding to what I'm alluding to. We must thread lightly with these here readers, else ...

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/b/b5/Exploding-head.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140310004650


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: BitcoinUKmedia on January 28, 2017, 09:13:46 PM
Does it really matter who she is and does anyone REALLY care anymore?

I agree - It's not important - so many wonderful startups are carrying on the story - developing some really cool tech off the back of blockchain, it would be better to champion them imo


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: LeGaulois on January 28, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
About the quote talking about the  Satoshi Roundtable conference...

I saw this week in title something like "Satoshi Roundtable conference Bildeberg...". At first before clicking on it I thought it was a clickbait , then I started to read the article. Seen the introduction I thought that it was just a joke first. Then continue reading I thought it's a satirical article. But look like not. I have not finished to read this article and not searched more about this group meeting. I never heard about this but I think it's going to against the ideology of the bitcoin. I find it funny if we have a "Bildeberg bitcoin group" or not so much


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 28, 2017, 11:51:33 PM
About the quote talking about the  Satoshi Roundtable conference...

yep many of the devs are dropping their ethical code hats and instead reaching for their richboy club jackets.
it all started changing in 2013-2014.
less actual code rules to protect bitcoin but more features to cause economic utility to degrade under the guise of security and utility, purely to sway the argument that bitcoin cant grow.. while strangely suggesting that a sidechain alt can grow.

EG - explaining like your 5
billy bitcoin cant drive down the his own street because road developers have been speaking with officials and have put a 10mph speed limit on the billy's road. and smeared frightening posters on the street to scare people into thinking that car crashes will happen if billy and his neighbours sped up even at a safe small speed increase.

but the road developers built a second road, exactly the same that allows sammy sidechain and people who pay a fee, can drive as fast as they like on this other road.
same tarmac. same twists and turns in the streets. but higher speed limits.

so while sammy sidechain and neighbours use their road. the road developers want to inform billy bitcoin that all residents should not ask other road developers increase the speed limit. but instead to move people out the street and into the leased accommodation of sammy sidechains street.

the other option is to get billy bitcoins street residents to put their children into foster care where the parents can only see the kids once a month, blaming the need of a speed limit on the children

yet sammy sidechain street, exactly same as billy bitcoin street becomes the main route through town and the children can play in the road because there is no actual issues with the roads.

soon enough sammy sidechain starts charging people to return/visit billy bitcoin street, making it cost money to use billy bitcoin street. so that the value of property declines on billy bitcoin street and gains value on sammy sidechain street. even though the properties were like-for-like in the beginning.

now people in billy bitcoin street want to move out to where the higher value property can be sold. and so they move into sammy sidechain street.
exchanging their 1 bitcoin bedroom property for a 1sidechain bedroom property. which gives them more value.

no way would they dare return to billy bitcoin street now. and billy bitcoin street becomes a derelict wasteland

^
wrote as if the reader was 5, to show the future intentions of these corporate paid devs


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: igigme77 on January 29, 2017, 12:05:41 AM
Good read this thread was. I never had any doubt that satoshi would reveal himself at some point. Now seem like the best point too because bitcoin is about to take off in a major way.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: LeGaulois on January 29, 2017, 12:59:13 AM
...

Humm i was not seeing things like this. I am not so much surprised finally to see guys changing their hat. It makes me think about an adage saying "to understand most of the things, follow the money".

Good read this thread was. I never had any doubt that satoshi would reveal himself at some point. Now seem like the best point too because bitcoin is about to take off in a major way.

i may need to re-read because i have not see somewhere in this disscussion  satoshi would reveal himself


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: igigme77 on January 29, 2017, 01:18:28 AM
...

Humm i was not seeing things like this. I am not so much surprised finally to see guys changing their hat. It makes me think about an adage saying "to understand most of the things, follow the money". Similar case like in GNU Linux and why Open Source missed the point of Free Software and the community began campaigning in the name of “open source.” while the free software movement community  started to campaign in the name of “free software.” since 1983, long before Open source. Two group seperated with differents ideas

Finally with the time, it could be really annoying to have such group and a threat. As i said i never knew about them but i think it is the same for the majority of the bitcoin community

Good read this thread was. I never had any doubt that satoshi would reveal himself at some point. Now seem like the best point too because bitcoin is about to take off in a major way.

i may need to re-read because i have not see somewhere in this disscussion  satoshi would reveal himself

Then you never read the op.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Wind_FURY on January 29, 2017, 02:19:26 AM
That is the first Pete Rizzo article that I think is stupid and useless. Unless he already has the follow up story and has a solid lead on who Satoshi really is, I am quite disappointed that he came up with that article. He made me waste 5 min.s of my life by reading it.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 29, 2017, 02:49:05 AM
That is the first Pete Rizzo article that I think is stupid and useless. Unless he already has the follow up story and has a solid lead on who Satoshi really is, I am quite disappointed that he came up with that article. He made me waste 5 min.s of my life by reading it.

Let me see if I got this straight. It took you five minutes to read a short article that takes most every other English speaking person in the world no more than one minute to read. On top of that, in the same sentence you expressed wasting your life by reading it in spite of clearly known to all reading this reply that you indeed got paid for your efforts via posting about your dreadful experience which includes a paid sig campaign below the fold that you're participating in, ergo not a waste. How close am I?

In case you read a different article, the following is the article in question in its entirety:

https://i.imgur.com/3Xj0LIv.png

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That is the first Pete Rizzo article that I think is stupid and useless.

Albeit not stupid, I'll give you one guess as to who penned the following article back in December 2015: http://www.coindesk.com/police-raid-home-of-alleged-bitcoin-creator-craig-wright/ HINT: He attended University of Massachusetts located in Amherst where Gavin Andresen currently resides, and has extensive experience managing teams of journalists and copywriters, guiding editorial content and larger product vision.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: jyakulis on January 29, 2017, 02:53:21 AM
"This time, however, there is said to be a potential twist to the story relating to an unknown entity that may have a claim to the intellectual property created by that group"


o rly?

 :-*


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: pooya87 on January 29, 2017, 04:55:40 AM
Does it really matter who she is and does anyone REALLY care anymore?

as a bitcoin enthusiast i don't want Satoshi identity to be revealed because it is the proof that anonymity can be achieved with bitcoin too.

but topic of Satoshi has always been important to two groups of people
1) shit news sites to post click bait
2) FUDsters to scare people with Satoshi moving his big stash!


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Xester on January 29, 2017, 11:22:38 AM
There are many potential contestants to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto but all who have claimed that they are Satoshi Nakamoto have failed to prove that they are the right person. Craig Wright has shaken the bitcoin y industry with his claim and evidence or proof that he is the rightful creator of bitcoin but failed in the last moment. In the end Satoshi Nakamoto remains a mystery and it never be unveiled.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: 20kevin20 on January 29, 2017, 11:36:22 AM
There are many potential contestants to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto but all who have claimed that they are Satoshi Nakamoto have failed to prove that they are the right person. Craig Wright has shaken the bitcoin y industry with his claim and evidence or proof that he is the rightful creator of bitcoin but failed in the last moment. In the end Satoshi Nakamoto remains a mystery and it never be unveiled.

If one of them was Satoshi it would've been very easy to prove it. When he created the cryptocurrency and then tried to hide himself.. he knew the day will come when he will have to prove it. The "fight", the competition between the people that are claiming to be the BTC owners are all about the money they can make out of this "reveal"..


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: thepo1m on January 29, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
I know most of us want to know who Satoshi really is, it will create exitement in the space but going forward it might hinder the progress of Bitcoin, for me the Bitcoin community has outgrown Satoshi and most people will take his opinion has the voice of the almighty Satishi speaking and must be done


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 29, 2017, 11:58:56 AM
Albeit not stupid, I'll give you one guess as to who penned the following article back in December 2015: http://www.coindesk.com/police-raid-home-of-alleged-bitcoin-creator-craig-wright/ HINT: He attended University of Massachusetts located in Amherst where Gavin Andresen currently resides, and has extensive experience managing teams of journalists and copywriters, guiding editorial content and larger product vision.

gleb, did you also remember the original gizmodo/wired "tip off" was from craig wright himself. asking all the media to sign a NDA until he was out of australia and in the uk before release

and craig wright done the same again later on to another bunch of people when he done the signature fail reveal

as well as the bit inbetween where craig wright was 'introduced' to the community by a select few people before anyone knew him.

(even back then i thought it all seemed like orchestrated and fake media drama)

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In early November 2015, Gizmodo [and wired] received a series of anonymous tip emails from someone who claimed to not only know the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, but who also claimed to have worked for him. “I hacked Satoshi Naklamoto [sic],” the first message read. “These files are all from his business account. The person is Dr Craig Wright.” What followed was a package of email files apparently pulled directly from an Outlook account belonging to Craig Wright, an Australian academic, computer engineering expert, and serial entrepreneur with a litany of degrees and corporations to his name.

(spoiler: craig himself was the tipster)

all because craig wright was under legal pressure due to questions over his empty tulip trust and was being harassed by australian government to prove its value. (due to the dmorgan ltd saga of aus$54m of government funding)
he needed to get the australian government off his back by trying to suggest his tulip trust actually held real assets(it doesnt). and also create yet another business backed by the (in reality empty) tulip trust

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/aussie-technologists-are-opening-the-worlds-first-bitcoin-based-bank-this-year-2014-2

here is wired's recanting their belief craig was satoshi
https://www.wired.com/2015/12/new-clues-suggest-satoshi-suspect-craig-wright-may-be-a-hoaxer/

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That final piece of evidence in particular resonates with something we pointed out in our original story: Wright seemed to planting breadcrumbs that would lead us to his theoretical secret identity. In fact, we’d already spotted that the three posts in Wright’s now-deleted blog that seemed to reveal his bitcoin work had been backdated or edited after the fact to insert that evidence; the clues were all missing in archived versions of the posts from 2013. Combined with our other apparently solid evidence, however, we wavered on whether the backdated posts were the sign of a hoax to steal Satoshi’s glory (or money), or simply the sign of a conflicted personality who may have hoped to finally receive credit for his work.

The two major holes in Wright’s resume that have come to light since, however, point to a hoaxer who may have planted clues of his purported bitcoin creation, just as he seems to have misrepresented his academic credentials and supercomputing achievements.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: zahra4577 on January 29, 2017, 12:01:31 PM
A conflict has risen, based upon that we cannot claim a key person to be Satoshi. To get exposed is simple but at the same bitcoin and other altcoins will be in danger.
Why do people believe that if Satoshi come to public,bitcoin will be in danger?
A lot of Altcoin devs are known to public yet these Altcoin are not only popular but prosepering as well.
Satoshi may have reasons not to disclose his identity but even if he did,bitcoin will not disappear.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 29, 2017, 05:40:42 PM
Albeit not stupid, I'll give you one guess as to who penned the following article back in December 2015: http://www.coindesk.com/police-raid-home-of-alleged-bitcoin-creator-craig-wright/ HINT: He attended University of Massachusetts located in Amherst where Gavin Andresen currently resides, and has extensive experience managing teams of journalists and copywriters, guiding editorial content and larger product vision.

gleb, did you also remember the original gizmodo/wired "tip off" was from craig wright himself. asking all the media to sign a NDA until he was out of australia and in the uk before release

and craig wright done the same again later on to another bunch of people when he done the signature fail reveal

as well as the bit inbetween where craig wright was 'introduced' to the community by a select few people before anyone knew him.

(even back then i thought it all seemed like orchestrated and fake media drama)

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In early November 2015, Gizmodo [and wired] received a series of anonymous tip emails from someone who claimed to not only know the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, but who also claimed to have worked for him. “I hacked Satoshi Naklamoto [sic],” the first message read. “These files are all from his business account. The person is Dr Craig Wright.” What followed was a package of email files apparently pulled directly from an Outlook account belonging to Craig Wright, an Australian academic, computer engineering expert, and serial entrepreneur with a litany of degrees and corporations to his name.

(spoiler: craig himself was the tipster)

all because craig wright was under legal pressure due to questions over his empty tulip trust and was being harassed by australian government to prove its value. (due to the dmorgan ltd saga of aus$54m of government funding)
he needed to get the australian government off his back by trying to suggest his tulip trust actually held real assets(it doesnt). and also create yet another business backed by the (in reality empty) tulip trust

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/aussie-technologists-are-opening-the-worlds-first-bitcoin-based-bank-this-year-2014-2

here is wired's recanting their belief craig was satoshi
https://www.wired.com/2015/12/new-clues-suggest-satoshi-suspect-craig-wright-may-be-a-hoaxer/

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That final piece of evidence in particular resonates with something we pointed out in our original story: Wright seemed to planting breadcrumbs that would lead us to his theoretical secret identity. In fact, we’d already spotted that the three posts in Wright’s now-deleted blog that seemed to reveal his bitcoin work had been backdated or edited after the fact to insert that evidence; the clues were all missing in archived versions of the posts from 2013. Combined with our other apparently solid evidence, however, we wavered on whether the backdated posts were the sign of a hoax to steal Satoshi’s glory (or money), or simply the sign of a conflicted personality who may have hoped to finally receive credit for his work.

The two major holes in Wright’s resume that have come to light since, however, point to a hoaxer who may have planted clues of his purported bitcoin creation, just as he seems to have misrepresented his academic credentials and supercomputing achievements.

In re the author of http://www.businessinsider.com.au/aussie-technologists-are-opening-the-worlds-first-bitcoin-based-bank-this-year-2014-2 (keyword: liz.tay@gmail.com (http://influencing.com/au/story/liz-tay-leaving-itnews-for-business-insider))

Now that Liz Tay has a kid, she don't get around as much as she used to: http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=Travel&Number=11861389&Searchpage=1&Main=11754442&Words=+liz.t&topic=&Search=true#Post11861389

Speaking of Business Insider: http://www.businessinsider.com/why-bitcoin-is-the-new-gold-btcc-2017-1


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Wind_FURY on January 30, 2017, 02:38:56 AM
That is the first Pete Rizzo article that I think is stupid and useless. Unless he already has the follow up story and has a solid lead on who Satoshi really is, I am quite disappointed that he came up with that article. He made me waste 5 min.s of my life by reading it.

Let me see if I got this straight. It took you five minutes to read a short article that takes most every other English speaking person in the world no more than one minute to read. On top of that, in the same sentence you expressed wasting your life by reading it in spite of clearly known to all reading this reply that you indeed got paid for your efforts via posting about your dreadful experience which includes a paid sig campaign below the fold that you're participating in, ergo not a waste. How close am I?

In case you read a different article, the following is the article in question in its entirety:

https://i.imgur.com/3Xj0LIv.png

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That is the first Pete Rizzo article that I think is stupid and useless.

Albeit not stupid, I'll give you one guess as to who penned the following article back in December 2015: http://www.coindesk.com/police-raid-home-of-alleged-bitcoin-creator-craig-wright/ HINT: He attended University of Massachusetts located in Amherst where Gavin Andresen currently resides, and has extensive experience managing teams of journalists and copywriters, guiding editorial content and larger product vision.

Ok what I said is harsh. Maybe the word stupid is the wrong word to use, I should have used farfetched. I believe this is another wild goose chase just like what the journalist for Newsweek did. She pointed to Dorian Nakamoto which turned out to be the wrong.

Also do not forget that this is a huge gamble for Pete Rizzo. The outcome of this story will make or break his career. I like him and his articles, please do not get me wrong. But this article honestly made my eyes roll and say "This again?" in my head. Or maybe it was the thread title having "definitive PROOF" that made me have high expectations.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 30, 2017, 03:03:59 AM
That is the first Pete Rizzo article that I think is stupid and useless. Unless he already has the follow up story and has a solid lead on who Satoshi really is, I am quite disappointed that he came up with that article. He made me waste 5 min.s of my life by reading it.

Let me see if I got this straight. It took you five minutes to read a short article that takes most every other English speaking person in the world no more than one minute to read. On top of that, in the same sentence you expressed wasting your life by reading it in spite of clearly known to all reading this reply that you indeed got paid for your efforts via posting about your dreadful experience which includes a paid sig campaign below the fold that you're participating in, ergo not a waste. How close am I?

In case you read a different article, the following is the article in question in its entirety:

https://i.imgur.com/3Xj0LIv.png

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That is the first Pete Rizzo article that I think is stupid and useless.

Albeit not stupid, I'll give you one guess as to who penned the following article back in December 2015: http://www.coindesk.com/police-raid-home-of-alleged-bitcoin-creator-craig-wright/ HINT: He attended University of Massachusetts located in Amherst where Gavin Andresen currently resides, and has extensive experience managing teams of journalists and copywriters, guiding editorial content and larger product vision.

Ok what I said is harsh. Maybe the word stupid is the wrong word to use, I should have used farfetched. I believe this is another wild goose chase just like what the journalist for Newsweek did. She pointed to Dorian Nakamoto which turned out to be the wrong.

Also do not forget that this is a huge gamble for Pete Rizzo. The outcome of this story will make or break his career. I like him and his articles, please do not get me wrong. But this article honestly made my eyes roll and say "This again?" in my head. Or maybe it was the thread title having "definitive PROOF" that made me have high expectations.

Perhaps now you can see what I did there: If a seasoned editor like Pete Rizzo can pass off a rumor stemming from a closed-door meeting as being news, I, a Dumb-ass, can pen a thread with "definitive PROOF" in its title expanding upon his extraordinary exposé, then trump this thread with yet another thread in re a sensationalized story currently making the rounds - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1767039.0.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: MFahad on January 30, 2017, 04:23:40 AM
There are many potential contestants to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto but all who have claimed that they are Satoshi Nakamoto have failed to prove that they are the right person. Craig Wright has shaken the bitcoin y industry with his claim and evidence or proof that he is the rightful creator of bitcoin but failed in the last moment. In the end Satoshi Nakamoto remains a mystery and it never be unveiled.

Somethings remains secret forever and its good they remain secret. For example if Satoshi Nakamoto reveals himself maybe his life maybe threaten and there are still lots of people and Govt. Institutions which hate bitcoin and do not want it to grow. Its better for bitcoin itself that this secret remains a secret.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 30, 2017, 04:55:01 AM
Somethings remains secret forever and its good they remain secret. For example if Satoshi Nakamoto reveals himself maybe his life maybe threaten and there are still lots of people and Govt. Institutions which hate bitcoin and do not want it to grow. Its better for bitcoin itself that this secret remains a secret.

satoshi wont need to worry about governments hating bitcoin, otherwise charlie lee and Butterin would be locked up
id say satoshi's worse fear is people thinking he has 1m coins making him nearly a billionaire, and suddenly having strangers from around the plant begging him for donations or trying to become his best friend while touching up his pocket hoping to find a hardware wallet with 20,000 privkeys

or
all the drug dealers that lost out in silkroad or all the gamblers that lost out in dodgy dice games and exchang hats threatening him to pay them, something for their loses


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 30, 2017, 10:36:35 AM
How rumors get started: https://criptonoticias.com/eventos/baja-asistencia-durante-segundo-dia-satoshi-roundtable/#axzz4XEsOYJMR

https://i.imgur.com/5ePRNEe.png
"Dear Diary: I think the redhead sitting across the aisle has the hots for me. Meanwhile, I can't help but feel that Craig Steven Wright is once again gonna provide proof that he is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto. PS: I missed my period again, thus I'm either going through menopause or I got pregnant when I sat on a toilet seat formerly utilized by Marshall Long. Oh, and I heard a rumor that somebody purchased a $4M home in California via bitcoins, but I'll believe that once I read such in some cryptocurrency periodical. Re Satoshi Roundtable, pretty thin turnout today, perhaps due to a many drinking more than their fair share of readily supplied Romulan Ale while most us attendees were in the hottub butt-ass naked last night, or was it this morning?. Rumor has it that Marshall Long was considering jumping in to take a bath, but opted out at the last minute so to play with his drones."


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Niksa90 on January 30, 2017, 11:17:21 AM



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In early November 2015, Gizmodo [and wired] received a series of anonymous tip emails from someone who claimed to not only know the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, but who also claimed to have worked for him. “I hacked Satoshi Naklamoto [sic],” the first message read. “These files are all from his business account. The person is Dr Craig Wright.” What followed was a package of email files apparently pulled directly from an Outlook account belonging to Craig Wright, an Australian academic, computer engineering expert, and serial entrepreneur with a litany of degrees and corporations to his name.

(spoiler: craig himself was the tipster)


here is wired's recanting their belief craig was satoshi
https://www.wired.com/2015/12/new-clues-suggest-satoshi-suspect-craig-wright-may-be-a-hoaxer/

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That final piece of evidence in particular resonates with something we pointed out in our original story: Wright seemed to planting breadcrumbs that would lead us to his theoretical secret identity. In fact, we’d already spotted that the three posts in Wright’s now-deleted blog that seemed to reveal his bitcoin work had been backdated or edited after the fact to insert that evidence; the clues were all missing in archived versions of the posts from 2013. Combined with our other apparently solid evidence, however, we wavered on whether the backdated posts were the sign of a hoax to steal Satoshi’s glory (or money), or simply the sign of a conflicted personality who may have hoped to finally receive credit for his work.

The two major holes in Wright’s resume that have come to light since, however, point to a hoaxer who may have planted clues of his purported bitcoin creation, just as he seems to have misrepresented his academic credentials and supercomputing achievements.


First, Gamow thanks for the elaborate peak in the Craig Wright hoax.
Can you share the domain of the erased blog of Wright? I would like to check on wayback to learn what exactly he reveals.(if the site's robots are not blocked)
About revealing the true Bitcoin dev, I think that if he wanted to share his identity he already would've done so, and for all of these people trying to get the claim, I think they are just baits that are trying to force the true dev to come out and take his rightful place.
And I totally agree this topic this is a wild goose chase :)
 


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: franky1 on January 30, 2017, 11:48:50 AM
to add another direction to the craig wright as a satoshi fall guy social misdirection drama.

ill add this name as the fourth musketeer, which i presume cough*media*cough are investigating as part of their circle jerk of their own rumour creation

Joseph Vaughn Perling


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE
this video is after craig ran off to the UK. but before he allowed gizmodo and wired to publish his tipoff.. in essense this is craig wrights attempt to get his name out there before he unlocks the media storm.

then looking at Joseph Vaughn Perling
google can see JVP saying he met cough*satoshi*cough many times.

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VaughnPerling says he met Wright at a conference in Amsterdam[2005] three years before publication of the Bitcoin white paper – and that Wright introduced himself as Satoshi Nakamoto at that time.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803/

(im facepalming and laughing at the same time)


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 30, 2017, 07:29:00 PM
to add another direction to the craig wright as a satoshi fall guy social misdirection drama.

ill add this name as the fourth musketeer, which i presume cough*media*cough are investigating as part of their circle jerk of their own rumour creation

Joseph Vaughn Perling


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE
this video is after craig ran off to the UK. but before he allowed gizmodo and wired to publish his tipoff.. in essense this is craig wrights attempt to get his name out there before he unlocks the media storm.

then looking at Joseph Vaughn Perling
google can see JVP saying he met cough*satoshi*cough many times.

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VaughnPerling says he met Wright at a conference in Amsterdam[2005] three years before publication of the Bitcoin white paper – and that Wright introduced himself as Satoshi Nakamoto at that time.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/satoshi-saga-continues-tulip-trust-trustee-expected-to-appear-by-september-says-joseph-vaughnperling-1462467803/

(im facepalming and laughing at the same time)

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/seven-questions-to-make-sense-of-craig-wright-s-signature-proofs-1462307704/

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Is anyone else backing Wright's story?

Yes.

Shortly after Wright's media storm ignited, two more digital currency veterans spoke out to back Wright's claims: R3 architect Ian Grigg, and New Liberty Dollar issuer Joseph Vaughn Perling.

Going into more detail in a blog post, Grigg claims that Wright was part of a small team behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, which would have also included the late Dave Kleiman. Grigg also notes that the team suffered much distress throughout the past years, suggesting Wright deserves to be left in peace now.

Perling did not provide much more background information, though his tweets echoed a similar sentiment as Grigg's: Wright – who is the man behind Satoshi Nakamoto – experiences much distress, and deserves some privacy.

As opposed to Andresen and Matonis, however, Grigg and Perling do not claim to have seen cryptographic evidence. Nor have they provided any.

https://twitter.com/haq4good/status/825188746093932544

https://i.imgur.com/lib6mgc.png

http://www.coindesk.com/events/construct-2017/

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This 350 attendee, invite-only event will include leaders from all major blockchain communities: Bitcoin, Ethereum, Hyperledger, Blockstack, Zcash, and more. Construct was designed to promote cross-­community collaboration and to help ensure the “internet of value” is built on an open, secure and interoperable foundation.

Organizer: Thank you, everybody, for attending. First off, I wish to relay a rumor ...

Cryptocurrency Periodicals: Much info! Such wow! On day one of the behind-closed-doors two-day meatup, a rumor was advanced by its host who was told by a friend that he (or she) overheard a conversation between two other attendees while taking a shit in stall number three of the unisex bathroom. There are claims that pictures exist depicting the unisex bathroom that was heavily frequented, cementing the notion that the rumor has validity.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 30, 2017, 11:13:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyWT3nljBI

https://i.imgur.com/lNSczo0.png

Trains what entities in what kind of defenses?

No wonder ...

http://gavinandresen.ninja/satoshi

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I believe Craig Steven Wright is the person who invented Bitcoin.

I was flown to London to meet Dr. Wright a couple of weeks ago, after an initial email conversation convinced me that there was a very good chance he was the same person I’d communicated with in 2010 and early 2011. After spending time with him I am convinced beyond a reasonable doubt: Craig Wright is Satoshi.

Part of that time was spent on a careful cryptographic verification of messages signed with keys that only Satoshi should possess. But even before I witnessed the keys signed and then verified on a clean computer that could not have been tampered with, I was reasonably certain I was sitting next to the Father of Bitcoin.

Gavin: Dad, after the presentation can we go fishing?
Satoshi: My job's a hassle and mom's got the flu, but it's sure nice talking to you, son. it was sure nice talking to you.
Gavin: Then I'll walk away, but my smile will never dimmed coz I'm gonna be like you, dad, you know I'm gonna be like you.

Aside: I once dated a gal in Illinois whose sister was married to Harry Chapin's brother.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on January 31, 2017, 01:27:15 AM
There is no definitive proof of someone being Satoshi until those genesis blocks are moved.

Satoshi owns a significant quantity of bitcoin that he has never touched.

To prove they're Satoshi, they'll need to transact the bitcoins Satoshi owns.
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.  How old are you? Seriously.

Moving Bitcoin from Genesis Block #0 will not prove that the new candidate is the inventor of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology. It will only prove that he is a better candidate than Dr. Wright.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on January 31, 2017, 01:56:50 AM
Why Extraordinary Claims Demand Extraordinary Proof ?

According to scientific research, logic, doubt and truth is the keys to analyse the claim and proof.
Where there is truth logically there is no doubt. Therefore an extraordinary claim require a genuine proof.
Dr. Craig wanted to sign the message with Public Key instead of Private Key. But as he has mention about
the Supper Computer and Tulip it has proved to me who he is. Any developer or a group of developer can
not claim that he is or they are the inventor or inventors of Bitcoin and Blockchain technology because the
Bitcoin and Blocklchain  was invented by a Robot. When they claim "we all are Satoshi" that is fine; But there
is no braivery and selfrespect claiming they are the inventors of some one else' invention. It is a false claim for
only to become a crude shameless fool latter when the truth is unfolded. Bitcoin Drama is open to anygood actor
in real life in the real world. When the climax will come the truth will be revealed for excitement.
 
 http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/extraproof.html


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Shiroslullaby on January 31, 2017, 02:00:09 AM
Sounds like more "we found Satoshi" drama that will probably lead nowhere.
Probably just trying to draw more traffic to their website. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they have any facts that we haven't heard before.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: isoneguy on January 31, 2017, 02:01:00 AM
this is merely speculation and additional FUD spreading.

I know who satoshi is...you do not.

end of story.

Although if you wanted a story to think about...try "Wag the Dog".


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on January 31, 2017, 02:10:52 AM
this is merely speculation and additional FUD spreading.

I know who satoshi is...you do not.

end of story.

Although if you wanted a story to think about...try "Wag the Dog".
I know that you know what is satoshi but I am sure you do not know, Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? If you are a Prophet change your Pink Dress and wear a man's long dress. If you are a Prophetess that is fine prove that you know who is Satoshi ?


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: isoneguy on January 31, 2017, 02:12:51 AM
I know that you know what is satoshi but I am sure you do not know, Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? If you are a Prophet change your Pink Dress and wear a man's long dress. If you are a Prophetess that is fine prove that you know who is Satoshi ?

You want me to defeat the purpose, to break the magic...why?

This only works because it be like it do...

WTF is wrong with you people.

You can't even solve the last riddle...what makes you think you are worthy of knowing satoshi's name?


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Wind_FURY on January 31, 2017, 03:32:05 AM
Could the real Satoshi Nakamoto be laughing at us right now? He is probably reading this thread and yelling in front of his computer screen "LOSERS YOU WILL NEVER CATCH ME!" and laughing really hard.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Money Maker Shaker on January 31, 2017, 03:43:57 AM
saying something is "proof" and it actually be proof are two completely different things !


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 31, 2017, 04:07:48 AM
I know that you know what is satoshi but I am sure you do not know, Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? If you are a Prophet change your Pink Dress and wear a man's long dress. If you are a Prophetess that is fine prove that you know who is Satoshi ?

You want me to defeat the purpose, to break the magic...why?

This only works because it be like it do...

WTF is wrong with you people.

You can't even solve the last riddle...what makes you think you are worthy of knowing satoshi's name?

Is that you, Vlad?


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: isoneguy on January 31, 2017, 04:57:20 AM

Is that you, Vlad?

No my friend, I doubt we've been properly introduced in this form. I'm simply the enabler.


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 31, 2017, 05:07:04 AM

Is that you, Vlad?

No my friend, I doubt we've been properly introduced in this form. I'm simply the enabler.

No prob, bud. BTW, I was in reference to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317658.0 (keyword: riddle).


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: isoneguy on January 31, 2017, 06:16:13 AM

Is that you, Vlad?

No my friend, I doubt we've been properly introduced in this form. I'm simply the enabler.

No prob, bud. BTW, I was in reference to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317658.0 (keyword: riddle).

I'm a big fan of the riddles, not enough unsolved mysteries in this world. If I had heros in my life, Vlad would be one of them.

It's just sad that bitcoin has been overtaken by greedy emotional folk and less the conscientious crypto types.

I mean, we knew that it would be part and parcel of the mass adoption...but still, it hurts a little.

Must be getting old  ;)


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: iGotSpots on January 31, 2017, 06:18:30 AM
Does it really matter who she is and does anyone REALLY care anymore?

as a bitcoin enthusiast i don't want Satoshi identity to be revealed because it is the proof that anonymity can be achieved with bitcoin too.

but topic of Satoshi has always been important to two groups of people
1) shit news sites to post click bait
2) FUDsters to scare people with Satoshi moving his big stash!

Nail on the head. The whole chase is just people trying to get famous for breaking a 'story' by exposing who she is


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: OneUnderBridge on March 24, 2017, 09:36:56 PM
It's all a Tulip farm anyway.  Just wait until the real quantums come online....we will see who's planting Tulips then, wont we?


Title: Re: Definitive PROOF that Satoshi Nakamoto is about to be exposed because ...
Post by: Elysium_ELSM on September 09, 2017, 09:01:36 AM
Good read this thread was. I never had any doubt that satoshi would reveal himself at some point. Now seem like the best point too because bitcoin is about to take off in a major way.

I just found this online under the Ripple discussion forum.
It seems like Satoshi Nakamoto is really the guy in Bali after all. 

Apparently this private key holds some of the clues that this guy is actually legit.
5KRgBLXEdeRczhjDkBC4TXQHLhd5gwFD55x1jzyhzukLS3v3NHC