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Title: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin! [Finished)
Post by: danuel on January 29, 2017, 01:39:30 PM
[FINISHED]

Best Regards


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Frank Lefty Rosenthal on January 30, 2017, 09:18:45 PM
You should advertise on https://www.bitpremier.com/

Frank Lefty Rosenthal Signing Out.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Viviyang on January 30, 2017, 10:21:16 PM
Hello bitcofriends!

Some time I don't give notices!

I am here to announce I have my house to trade for bitcoin.
It is a private House T4, locate in Center of Portugal (near Lisbon).
Peaceful place! Locates 2km way from a Resort Golf (Golf Resort Dolce Campo Real).
Have 340m2 area.

0º Floor: Kitchen, StayRoom, WC and room (or studyroom).
1st Floor: 2 BedRoom, balconies, with WC (with Whirlpool), and a suite with balconies.

My price It's 270BTC, Included documents costs.

I put a auction on Bitify.
https://bitify.com/auctions/houses/private-house-t4-in-portugal-543901/

Best Regards

Hey can anyone who is from outside of portugal can buy this house, if it is ok then can you give me the full procedures to buy with all legal works also.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: ps_jb on January 31, 2017, 03:09:36 AM
Hey can anyone who is from outside of portugal can buy this house, if it is ok then can you give me the full procedures to buy with all legal works also.

My friend from Russia bought a house close to Albufeira. No problem, but as far as I know everything was done through the local lawyer + realtor


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Etherius_Maximus on January 31, 2017, 05:00:20 AM
That's a great idea and I also posted my house for sale in USA https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1771501.new#new


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: danuel on January 31, 2017, 07:11:53 AM
You should advertise on https://www.bitpremier.com/

Frank Lefty Rosenthal Signing Out.

Thank you for this site!
:)

Hey can anyone who is from outside of portugal can buy this house, if it is ok then can you give me the full procedures to buy with all legal works also.
Tell me what is your country, I will take information for you.

My friend from Russia bought a house close to Albufeira. No problem, but as far as I know everything was done through the local lawyer + realtor
Yes, this it's true.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Decoded on February 03, 2017, 06:01:33 AM
Damn. I wish housing were that cheap here in Australia.

It's a very nice house, mate. Would love to see if you manage to sell it with bitcoin! Please alert us if you find a buyer. I haven't seen a recent property sale go down in a while.  :D


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: hardtime on February 03, 2017, 08:56:43 PM
This is what I wish bitcoin would end up being used for, anything and everything in the world we know. It's honestly pretty amazing that someone on the internet can buy your home for an internet currency.

Dam, I look way to deep into things. Though, thanks for putting this up and showing everyone I'll be watching to see how much this house sells for in the end


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: danuel on February 06, 2017, 07:10:54 PM
Damn. I wish housing were that cheap here in Australia.

It's a very nice house, mate. Would love to see if you manage to sell it with bitcoin! Please alert us if you find a buyer. I haven't seen a recent property sale go down in a while.  :D
I hope someone likes my house and take it.
I have this house and I don't live here. I tryed on real states, but no success... only get sh*t conversations, smalltalk, they talk a lot but do nothing... If you understand what I mean.

I am a Bitcoin follower and defender, now I decided sell it for Bitcoin.
I only need a real/trust bitcoin buyer for this house.

Are you a possible candidate?  :P :P

Best Regards


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: defcon23 on February 06, 2017, 08:33:39 PM
this is an interesting idea  ( even if nothing new here ) that's not the first time this happened ( i also remember smoothie ( distributor of  Lealana's coins ) have proposed to sell a house in Hawaii for BTC  .. ( smoothie: correct me if I'm wrong .. ;) )

by the way, I actually seriously think to do the same with my house in France ...    I will take more info from a lawyer on how this could be done in a smooth way ..  8)


anyway , good luck with your sale OP !   :D


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: bitbollo on February 06, 2017, 08:39:00 PM
in my country when you sign the contract you need to say where the funds come from: ie cash, bank account.
In this trade how did you want declare the payment you receive?
Are you sure you can tell btc payment or maybe you need some exchange?


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: defcon23 on February 06, 2017, 08:43:31 PM
in my country when you sign the contract you need to say where the funds come from: ie cash, bank account.
In this trade how did you want declare the payment you receive?
Are you sure you can tell btc payment or maybe you need some exchange?

I cant talk for others, but in my project concern, this is absolutely not a problem: bitcoins will come from the buyer  ;) lol

Anyway, this must have to be cadre by a lawyer ... indeed .

 https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/pay-taxes-buy-houses-with-bitcoin/ (http:// https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/pay-taxes-buy-houses-with-bitcoin/)
i also have seen several exemples recently :

ie:

 https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/pay-taxes-buy-houses-with-bitcoin/ (http:// https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/pay-taxes-buy-houses-with-bitcoin/)

 https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/pay-taxes-buy-houses-with-bitcoin/ (http:// https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/pay-taxes-buy-houses-with-bitcoin/)

http://candysdirt.com/2013/12/18/can-you-buy-a-house-with-bitcoin-alternative-currencies-on-the-rise-as-realtors-market-homes-to-tech-savvy-set/

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/man-accidentally-makes-13-million-buying-a-house-with-bitcoin-cm738868

etc etc etc ....


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: carlisle1 on February 08, 2017, 05:27:20 PM
Its great to see someone from europe who is trading his house for 270 bitcoin, as I imagine the design as well as its extent I think the price is fair enough . I wish that I could buy a house from the other country with bitcoin but the problem is that I only have a few number of it . Anyway goodluck to you man I hope that you would meet the right buyer .


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: danuel on February 10, 2017, 07:09:18 AM
UPDATE:

Only pre-requisite for interests is: the interessed needs have a Lawyer in Portugal country.
If you can not have one, I can take a random lawyer for you.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Zeta0S on February 11, 2017, 12:46:25 PM


249.394 BTC Is that not a bit expensive?
 


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: danuel on February 11, 2017, 12:51:12 PM


249.394 BTC Is that not a bit expensive?
 

are including all costs... taxes to state, lawyer... this things was new owner needs to pays... and everything else about burocracy..


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: olubams on February 11, 2017, 01:25:00 PM
Thats a good one if Portugal dont have a strict financial rule concerning the purchase and transfer of real estate because over here with that amount of money, to buy a house then I will have to explain where it is coming from and how I manage to have such huge amount as Fiat because  bitcoin popularity is still low here so I have to convert to Fiat before going for such transaction. But the issue is not buying alone but for me who doesnt even have a Portugese visa or permit, of what use will the house be for me?...


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: miningdude on February 11, 2017, 04:44:40 PM
It's seems like the house is little bit expensive and with bitcoins as well.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Zeta0S on February 11, 2017, 08:20:36 PM


249.394 BTC Is that not a bit expensive?
 

are including all costs... taxes to state, lawyer... this things was new owner needs to pays... and everything else about burocracy..


Ah, I see. You right, Normally the buyer would pay for that.

Nice house. You need to upload some more pictures from the house and street.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: danuel on February 19, 2017, 06:12:18 PM
Update Info
The house has pre-installation for Solar Power System and central aspiration!

Hello bitcofriends!

Some time I don't give notices!

I am here to announce I have my house to trade for bitcoin.
It is a private House T4, locate in Center of Portugal (near Lisbon).
Peaceful place! Locates 2km way from a Resort Golf (Golf Resort Dolce Campo Real).
Have 340m2 area.

Floor: Kitchen, StayRoom, WC and room (or studyroom).
1st Floor: 2 BedRoom, balconies, with WC (with Whirlpool), and a suite with balconies.

My price It's on auction.

I put a auction on Bitify and bitpremier.
https://bitify.com/auctions/houses/private-house-t4-in-portugal-543901/
https://www.bitpremier.com/5-real-estate/2418-private-house-t4-in-portugal


Best Regards


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Zeta0S on February 19, 2017, 10:07:04 PM
Cool you are on a crypto news website: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/wat-voor-vastgoed-goed-kan-ik-allemaal-kopen-met-bitcoins


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: lfilipetav on July 29, 2017, 01:06:06 AM
Thats a good one if Portugal dont have a strict financial rule concerning the purchase and transfer of real estate because over here with that amount of money, to buy a house then I will have to explain where it is coming from and how I manage to have such huge amount as Fiat because  bitcoin popularity is still low here so I have to convert to Fiat before going for such transaction. But the issue is not buying alone but for me who doesnt even have a Portugese visa or permit, of what use will the house be for me?...

I am Portuguese , don't know him. Portugal as a program called "golden visa".
Anyone who invests at least 500k in real estate in Portugal can apply to a visa that allow you to travel in any EU member state. You only have to live there for 80 days (???????? NO SOURCE) in 3 years.

As far as I know Portugal could consider Cryptos an asset (as far as I know there is no code law yet) , as EU supreme court ruled it as such in a case of some country asking for tax and the court ruled it as assets so they are untaxable.

Lisbon houses have gained about 20% de value in 2 years. They are like the altcoins, cheap if you compare with other major cities, just waiting for the pump. I would buy all of them myself ahah


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Zeta0S on July 29, 2017, 02:54:01 AM
Thats a good one if Portugal dont have a strict financial rule concerning the purchase and transfer of real estate because over here with that amount of money, to buy a house then I will have to explain where it is coming from and how I manage to have such huge amount as Fiat because  bitcoin popularity is still low here so I have to convert to Fiat before going for such transaction. But the issue is not buying alone but for me who doesnt even have a Portugese visa or permit, of what use will the house be for me?...

I am Portuguese , don't know him. Portugal as a program called "golden visa".
Anyone who invests at least 500k in real estate in Portugal can apply to a visa that allow you to travel in any EU member state. You only have to live there for 80 days (???????? NO SOURCE) in 3 years.
All EU members can travel in any EU member state, you surly do not have to have 500.000 euro on a Visa card, or even have to own a Visa card.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: ikilledcobain on July 31, 2017, 06:25:33 PM
Thats a good one if Portugal dont have a strict financial rule concerning the purchase and transfer of real estate because over here with that amount of money, to buy a house then I will have to explain where it is coming from and how I manage to have such huge amount as Fiat because  bitcoin popularity is still low here so I have to convert to Fiat before going for such transaction. But the issue is not buying alone but for me who doesnt even have a Portugese visa or permit, of what use will the house be for me?...

I am Portuguese , don't know him. Portugal as a program called "golden visa".
Anyone who invests at least 500k in real estate in Portugal can apply to a visa that allow you to travel in any EU member state. You only have to live there for 80 days (???????? NO SOURCE) in 3 years.
All EU members can travel in any EU member state, you surly do not have to have 500.000 euro on a Visa card, or even have to own a Visa card.

I don't think that's the type of visa he's referring to.

This would be the type of document he's referring to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_visa

Not a credit/debit card.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Zeta0S on August 03, 2017, 01:27:05 AM
Thats a good one if Portugal dont have a strict financial rule concerning the purchase and transfer of real estate because over here with that amount of money, to buy a house then I will have to explain where it is coming from and how I manage to have such huge amount as Fiat because  bitcoin popularity is still low here so I have to convert to Fiat before going for such transaction. But the issue is not buying alone but for me who doesnt even have a Portugese visa or permit, of what use will the house be for me?...

I am Portuguese , don't know him. Portugal as a program called "golden visa".
Anyone who invests at least 500k in real estate in Portugal can apply to a visa that allow you to travel in any EU member state. You only have to live there for 80 days (???????? NO SOURCE) in 3 years.
All EU members can travel in any EU member state, you surly do not have to have 500.000 euro on a Visa card, or even have to own a Visa card.

I don't think that's the type of visa he's referring to.

This would be the type of document he's referring to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_visa

Not a credit/debit card.
Ow haha.  Well that kind of Visa you also do not. Passport or ID card will suffice to travel in whole Europe.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: TikoCrypto on August 03, 2017, 06:10:31 PM
Thats a good one if Portugal dont have a strict financial rule concerning the purchase and transfer of real estate because over here with that amount of money, to buy a house then I will have to explain where it is coming from and how I manage to have such huge amount as Fiat because  bitcoin popularity is still low here so I have to convert to Fiat before going for such transaction. But the issue is not buying alone but for me who doesnt even have a Portugese visa or permit, of what use will the house be for me?...

I am Portuguese , don't know him. Portugal as a program called "golden visa".
Anyone who invests at least 500k in real estate in Portugal can apply to a visa that allow you to travel in any EU member state. You only have to live there for 80 days (???????? NO SOURCE) in 3 years.
All EU members can travel in any EU member state, you surly do not have to have 500.000 euro on a Visa card, or even have to own a Visa card.

I don't think that's the type of visa he's referring to.

This would be the type of document he's referring to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_visa

Not a credit/debit card.

Ow haha.  Well that kind of Visa you also do not. Passport or ID card will suffice to travel in whole Europe.

You're missing the point, if you invest at least 500k in real estate in Portugal, you will be granted a visa. This is very interesting, if you live outside the EU, for Europeans of course not....


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: TheFriends on August 05, 2017, 03:07:48 PM
Thats a good one if Portugal dont have a strict financial rule concerning the purchase and transfer of real estate because over here with that amount of money, to buy a house then I will have to explain where it is coming from and how I manage to have such huge amount as Fiat because  bitcoin popularity is still low here so I have to convert to Fiat before going for such transaction. But the issue is not buying alone but for me who doesnt even have a Portugese visa or permit, of what use will the house be for me?...

I am Portuguese , don't know him. Portugal as a program called "golden visa".
Anyone who invests at least 500k in real estate in Portugal can apply to a visa that allow you to travel in any EU member state. You only have to live there for 80 days (???????? NO SOURCE) in 3 years.
All EU members can travel in any EU member state, you surly do not have to have 500.000 euro on a Visa card, or even have to own a Visa card.

I don't think that's the type of visa he's referring to.

This would be the type of document he's referring to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_visa

Not a credit/debit card.
Ow haha.  Well that kind of Visa you also do not. Passport or ID card will suffice to travel in whole Europe.

It is a program for foreigners who buy a house or invest in Portugal is entitled to remain in Portugal.


Title: Re: I Trade a house in Portugal for Bitcoin!
Post by: Zeta0S on October 07, 2017, 12:26:26 AM
Thats a good one if Portugal dont have a strict financial rule concerning the purchase and transfer of real estate because over here with that amount of money, to buy a house then I will have to explain where it is coming from and how I manage to have such huge amount as Fiat because  bitcoin popularity is still low here so I have to convert to Fiat before going for such transaction. But the issue is not buying alone but for me who doesnt even have a Portugese visa or permit, of what use will the house be for me?...

I am Portuguese , don't know him. Portugal as a program called "golden visa".
Anyone who invests at least 500k in real estate in Portugal can apply to a visa that allow you to travel in any EU member state. You only have to live there for 80 days (???????? NO SOURCE) in 3 years.
All EU members can travel in any EU member state, you surly do not have to have 500.000 euro on a Visa card, or even have to own a Visa card.

I don't think that's the type of visa he's referring to.

This would be the type of document he's referring to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_visa

Not a credit/debit card.
Ow haha.  Well that kind of Visa you also do not. Passport or ID card will suffice to travel in whole Europe.

It is a program for foreigners who buy a house or invest in Portugal is entitled to remain in Portugal.
Nope!