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Any important questions I see I'll add to OP going forward.
Please keep in mind due to the account status, I can only reply so fast.

Name?

To be determined, till then enjoy this very appealing title.

What happened?

Briefly summarizing on the events, I announced my departure from the Pure Vidz project because I had conflicting views with my partner (the person with the original idea of the platform) on what our goals should be going forward and the scope of our project. We have mutually reached an agreement to part ways that we are both happy with and I will be starting on my own project to represent my differing vision while he will be continuing to develop Pure Vidz following his original vision laid out.

The events of my departure are summarized here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696889.msg17749745#msg17749745

Confirmation is directly below where my previous partner quoted my post.

What’s problems in terms of the current definitive scope required something as drastic as a separate project?

Central points of failure: Let’s start with human intervention and central points of failure. I’m against the moderator system, users should not be told what can exist on the platform and what can’t but in the vision of PV it’s a crucial part of the platform since content needs to be curated for validity as well as to ensure nothing controversial is posted and indexed. The fact human moderators are required in itself are a point of failure. If for whatever reason a moderator starts rejecting content because they don’t like it, it’s then up to “the organization” to fix, re-evaluate and reprimand said moderator.

Another example of centralization is similar to that of MU and TPB. If a few key individuals are caught, the entire platform goes down. PV’s vision suffers from this as well, where as my end goal results in using a blockchain to act as a distributed database and full nodes to act as gateways to accessing files in a similar sense that IPFS nodes do. The platform should sustain in such a way similar to Bitcoin, even with it's founder Satoshi nowhere to be found the platform continues to run and thrive.

Legal Ambiguity: It’s no doubt PV’s vision always suffered from legal ambiguity. One could argue TPB “isn’t really doing anything wrong” but that doesn’t really stop the law. The strong point here to make is torrents are legal, IPFS is legal, it’s what you seed and how you provide the content that can be illegal. Objectively speaking, I am planning on delivering a platform and how it is used is defined by its users not by what I enforce.

IPFS sets a good precedent for this where their public gateway ipfs.gateway.io opts into a DMCA black list. Nodes that any individual sets up by default has to opt into this black list. There’s a few reason for this one of which is if it was mandated IPFS itself could be seen as the entity to attack for taking ownership of curating the content on the network. In other words, the gateway or entry point to the content should decide what’s allowed and what’s not, not the users using it. In the case of IPFS if you disagree with a node's blacklist policies nothing is preventing you from using a different gateway that doesn’t opt into the blacklist or setting up your own node.

My vision going forward has full legal compliance and doesn’t require ambiguity.

The other issue with legal ambiguities is forming partnerships with other organizations going forward. It’s not hard to see why most organizations will tread very carefully and/or want noting to do with you.

Transparency and Open Source: Transparency in terms of identity is a problem due to the legal ambiguity of the platform. Going forward with assurance of legal compliance with my vision of the project I’ll be comfortable reveal who I am and openly/publicly speaking.

For obvious reasons Pure Vidz as defined by PV’s vision needs to remain closed source. In my vision going forward everything will eventually be open sourced. Even during the process of where the project early on won’t be fully decentralized and rely on our central server as a database back-end, I intend for the front-end client to be entirely open source. The client will be developed in such a way that when we hit the point of decentralization, all that needs to be done is changing the base api endpoint to a different public gateway or a localhost gateway node.

I am a holder of VIDZ, how am I affected by this?

On my project going forward, part of the coins created in the initial supply will be dedicated towards a VIDZ swap. This swap will be done via a proof of burn.

It was part of the mutual agreement that I would offer this as means of continuing to support his vision of Pure Vidz. If you choose to support my project by burning coins, those who still stick with the his vision of the project will benefit from the decreased supply in available coins. The burn process will not require you to send me your coins. You will be burning them entirely yourself and this process will be detailed later on.

Who advocated for IPFS? (this seemed to get asked a lot in Discord)

I strongly advocated to speed up integration and even elect it as our primary content system. It solved a lot of our problems early on specifically lack of seeders using the WebTorrent client which resulted in poor content reliability. There was a drastic improvement in content reliability and people using the platform in a positive matter when we made this integration which initially started out very controversial.

As we further began to use IPFS, I quickly began noticing the heights this project could reach and how it’s current scope was greatly limiting it, see the development update I made,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696889.msg17627951#msg17627951

Will you have a crowdfund?

Once I can finalize a draft for the scope of the project and the process of how I plan to go about things, yes we will begin a crowdfund. What has not been determined yet is what percentage of the coin supply will be dedicated towards crowdfund participants and what percentage will go towards those doing the VIDZ proof of burn swap.

As for when, I currently can’t put dates to things. First I need to finish the document detailing how I wish to proceed going forward and then a timeline can be put together.

OMG SCAM!!!!

I’ve said this in the Discord several times during the first few hours of after I posted the update, both of us plan on continuing to develop the project but the directions we’re taking it are drastically different and that’s why this split is happening.

I still hold VIDZ and it will be burned going forward during the swap process. Realistically speaking, if I had malicious intentions the optimal strategy would’ve been to dump it at peak prices and not offer any VIDZ swap whatsoever. The VIDZ swap/burn does absolutely nothing for my project, but allows me to directly support those who choose to hold VIDZ committing to PV's vision.

I can only speak for myself, but I am committed to the development of this project and believe in the success and potential of where my vision of the project is headed. If you want to discuss things in a reasonable matter, join us on Discord.

So what exactly is your vision?

Above, I’ve briefly summarized some of the points I want to tackle but haven’t gone in depth about how I plan on going about this going forward. I will be putting together a document detailing the full scope of the new project, a comprehensive road map break down and expectations going forward. I had already started working on this prior to the update, so please give me a little bit more time to completed it.

Will you be working with other people going forward?

Yes assuming funding allows for it, others will be hired for permanent positions.

There are people who I had reached out to in regards to Pure Vidz not only in the terms of acting as an official team developer, but other positions when we were looking to expand. Many of those contacts when they learned more about the product were cautious. The biggest problem was the legal ambiguity and that we had to be anonymous while operating everything is a huge turn off to most people.

Reserved for the lolz

I dont trust you with your Panic making anounce... You want just to Pick up as much USER as u can....
Good luck for you but believe me sometimes in Live people make a bad desicion... and u do a bad...

PUREVIDZ will be the best and about u no one knows anythink in some weeks

Wow, ICO again i guess its not enough for getting a cut.  ;D

i think you are the scammer

Need to wait for PV's confirmation

uh... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696889.msg17749761#msg17749761 ?


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The decision to post about it publicly was a mutual one. You're free to make whatever accusations you want and as I said, I support PV's vision as by accepting VIDZ through burning it reduces the supply.


As sarcastic as this is intended to be, it isn't enough to do whats intended. If funding was my only concern and I had 0 respect for PV's project I would have never offered to do the VIDZ swap/burn.

Please quiet your shit Project we dont need it...

We have the real one.... PUREVIDZ

If this guy stays away from illegal shit, then it might be interesting to follow.

I reserve a place; To see if this works or you return regret to PUREVIDZ   :) :) ;)

The project is intended to be entirely legally complicit going forward. I'll be going detail about this when I'm ready to release a scope document. I'd encourage you to join the Discord if you haven't already.

PureKidz? Rated G. (not PornKidz okay.) - just posting so I can watch this.

This is what I assumed purevidz was going to be.

It can be legal simply by not giving the dev control over what content will and won't be allowed, and thus he can't take it down. It doesn't mean it can't host copyrighted content, it can, but it's outside of his hands. This means, unlike the blatantly law disregarding pv, this coin can be listed on polo and bittrex and grow outside the small niche circle.

It must be decentralized.

This is the dev that brought the IPFS technology to the purevidz, and this is the vision that will prevent it from being shut down while delivering everything purevidz was. The technical knowledge is here, the path forward is here, absolutely the best project to follow.

Can you publish details and here? Yet Bitcointalk  forum is broadest for information. It is difficult to arrive follow all  by various forums and channels.

I agree. I wish that he is can publish here some information about the update.

I am not complaining cause I was in early, made my profits, but those who got in later, they felt the burn...any how wish you the best but do your best to make those bag-holders happy?

why many makers of new coins, made by beginners, I think he just wanted to make coins while and then after that he left just like that, many beginners who like this for his own personal importance. :-\

Hi dev....
can you please make a new ico? I think it will be better if you go on distance to purevidz because it might be very negativ to associat your project with vidz.
I think better way will be a new ico. the escrows you have from bct so i think it will be no problem... what are u thinking how long you need to start your streaming site?

what fucking new ICO?

He got half the fucking money from the PureVidz ICO already

He has enough funds to develop his shit.

https://blockchain.info/address/351QpGDfzEW2H51tCCDn6qvUPfZZnTGuSg (https://blockchain.info/address/351QpGDfzEW2H51tCCDn6qvUPfZZnTGuSg)

Escrow released the final last part of the funds to them an then he decides to fucking go solo.

scammy as fuck

Wow newbie account created today ask newbie Dev account registered yesterday to make ICO, smell fishy!? isnt it!!!

I suppose this could work, and I give you credit for including a Vidz swap for fairness.

At a minimum, though, a lot of users will want very clear denotation of which gateways reliably avoid hosting child porn, as that really is among risks if without an universal moderator system.  There is mildly illegal (mere ordinary pirated movies), and then there is so strongly illegal that an accidental thumbnail image could send someone to jail for decades.  The risk of indirect association is concerning too.  For one thing, I'm not entirely sure if major exchanges will host this, though I simply don't know.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696889.msg17756244#msg17756244

OOPS!

Let me tell you guys what happens next.

Pure_Vidz posts about how his project is not really taking off enough, and will "allocate dev funds" to this project. Where they team up again so we can all fall for their little play again.

yes he got the half but it would be nice to see him dumping the shit VIDZ Coins and buy with this BTC a Lambo or somethink else.

So we need a new ICO...

I understand your reasons of leaving the project. By leaving, You've successfully killed your partner's project. You see, A lot of people have lost confidence in PureVidz project because You claimed to have a much more better project compared to that of your partner.


Just barely two months but You've already quitted & left. Who does that? You may have good intentions leaving, But It seems to me that You're stealing the Project from Purevidz who is the original brain behind it in the first place.

Not to mention who can/will believe him that he won't pull something like that again.

I didn't kill anything. It was a mutual agreement that he also agreed to and as such terms exist going forward such as my acceptance of VIDZ through proof of burn. If he delivers on his vision of the project and everything works as intended then confidence will be restored will it not? I have not said or claimed anywhere "mine is better" but rather I strongly disagree with aspects of his vision and how things should work for longevity of the project.

Whether I'm trusted or not in terms of delivering on the scope document I issue is entirely up to you and the free market to decide. If after I determine a budget an insufficient amount is raised a refund can be issued and I'll accept the free market is against my proposals.

The free market will speak its mind in time in terms of its money and funding and through the burning of VIDZ.

No one will trust u in future

bull fucking shit

you should have fucking split from the start then.

instead, you wait until the last portion of ICO funds is released from escrow and then you announce your intentions.

scamming prick

that's where you're wrong kiddo

Some will trust and some will not, the above will not. He probably never brought into the PureVidz ICO based on his trusting. I trusted and left with over 10x ROI and could have been over 20x. I will hedge against both projects but if this is truly decentralized, I will have no choice but to invest more heavily here. The fact that you're burning dev fund when it could have been sold for over 100btc speaks massively of this dev. And the smart will understand that, the dumb will not, the world will continue to spin.

those users don't understand what decentralization and hands free upload system means and should be doxxed and killed. if he puts in a way to do this, other than community vote system, he would be responsible as full time curator of a growing network which can't scale. the stupidity of such a request deserves permanent death for you.

yobit trader like yourself does not belogn in crypto, go away back to your suicide den where you can help the world through suicide. you lose money because you're an idiot and deserve to die. your little brain can't comprehend someone not trying to scam in crypto because you yourself are a scammer, and shill non stop in your posts. you're trully a prime example of a worthless person. if hitler focused on your extermination instead of innocent, he would forever be known as a good person - that's how shit of a person you are.

Don't hold back. Say what you really feel

Really...? You couldn't put aside your differences until the project gained more traction??? You had to drop a bomb on your investors? Very poorly played and it looks selfish and inconsiderate on your part!

I'm sticking with Purevidz and will support it... Honestly you lost more by doing this now because ppl will think that you might do the same thing again with your new project!

That's an idiotic suggestion. You want him to wait until the project is much bigger until he leaves and drops its value thus hurting more token holders? It's clear purevidz as it is can't survive for long, and his approach is the only rational one that the PV guy should've followed. What was the point of working on the project doomed to fail when there's much better approach with much bigger scope.

He could have done it before it went from 100 sats - 2000 sats

What does it say about about a person who drops a bomb in the middle of a huge move?

what is asphyxia's coin project
you can explain detail youre coin dev

Bla bla bla bla, huge volume at yobit ahahahahahahaha

good joke man, i like you.

Well I did buy the dip on yobit...  8)

Not gonna miss that opportunity

 ;D ;D ;D yobit traders think they matter, it's adorable  :D :D :D

For a so called Hero member you haven't spent much time working shit out have you?

Vidz will fail in the not so long future. I am finding it very difficult that so many of you so called investors cannot see how amazing this project can be, so much more than CENTRALIZED pureVIDZ.

I will stick with the honest dev that could have sold his VIDZ and made "100s of BITCOIN" but instead of being a dirty scammer for a couple hundred thousand dollars, he was honest and will burn them lol

That shows his worth to his new project to me.

Any bounty for Twitter and why not started yet?

If he started one day after the announcement then that would be me out. And I truly hope he is not stupid enough to start a twitter for all you guys with your fake ass followers to then come and lick the shit out of the thread trying to claim a few coins. Please OP don't do it lol

I doubt vidz will fall and die but it is obvious where the real brains behind the project lay. If it wasn't for this dev vidz would never have scaled. His problem solving abilities with his lack of greed will win me over as an investor regardless how it turned out between him and vidz partner. When you think big you can't be held down by a partner who doesn't think or really want big.
There you have what should be a very big selling point, he could have sold out coins and left but he is here helping vidz even after disagreements with dev.
Kudos

hmmm This is on a lot of our minds also, maybe the dev can explain what the funds are needed for exactly so we can see the expenditures. Also an address where we can see the funds already collected. Tech is not so expensive, couple servers... then you code. Basically I also would like to see justification for another ICO after you already getting half.

You could have waited 2 weeks, rolled out the new site and left in an orderly fashion with $1,000,000...
But you pulled a John Connor... and trashed the Alt all to hell.

What fun. Bravo.

But hey, we've managed to offload scaryvirus onto your project.

Anyway, I hope you succeed... do your ICO... build your vision... we NEED competition in the crypto/torrent niche.

Waiting 2 weeks would of wrecked even more buyers.

LOL at scam dev(s) trying to clear the air.  Is this the new "pro" thing to do for a shitcoin?

Gayness.

so its a win-win situation to buy more vidz.
if vidz is slow to succeed, i can swap vidz for asphyxia's new coin and have ownership on the latter.
if i keep vidz, i can still buy asphyxia's coins during crowdsale to hedge my bet.
if both fail, well there goes my dream house ferrari and hot girlfriends for life.

seriously though, i think asphyxia and vp should apologize(not for their split but that ppl lost money and to assure them that they will eventually get their money back thousandfold if they stick around. or something like that) to the supporters for their seemingly reckless childish untimely break up. their action cost people money, including me. they are not trying to scam anyone but to those who lost money, the result is the same as being scammed. i do however appreciate their honestly explaining their goals and intentions. hope everything works out in the end.

whats done is done and i stil believe in their vision.

imo, asphyxia and vp have talent and vision but need to work on their business skills and getting the smart people to work with them. building the right team is crucial!!  hopefully they are smart enough to realize this. Also, dont forget your supporters who are your lifeblood. In other words, dont forget to see the forest for the trees when trying to change the world so that your business decisions dont become some sociopathic  me, me, me, i-only-care-about-my-interest kind of thing thereby defeating the whole purpose of creating a project whose ultimate purpose is to achieve individual rights and freedom for all people.

i am still 100% allin on both of their projects!!
we should have freedom to share videos, movies, shows, etc.
good luck boys. lets get busy and make a difference.

What's childish is how people backtrack on their views of transparency when it's not something positive or in support of their financial positions. I've already said numerous times on Discord that it probably could've been handled different and I understand that people lost money but what's done is done and now the only thing going forward is we can try to make the best of it. The most I can do at this point is being done which is offering the burn/swap which benefits me in no way but rather benefits PV's project. This has nothing to do with self-interest because if that was the case I could've dumped my holdings which would be the ultimate "fuck you" to PV and VIDZ holders. Not only that, but offering the swap dilutes those that are investing purely in bitcoin who had nothing to do with Pure Vidz beforehand.

I appreciate your support going forward so thanks :)

so how much of the ICO funds did you get?

I think a new Ico will be the better way.Let us forget Vidz.Dump your Holding and Start a new Ico on same conditions.

What new ICO?

You have money to throw out of the window?

VIDZ ICO was 85 BTC. Asphyxia must have gotten a good chunk of BTC as well, so I am sure that he has enough money to develop without needing

BTC being thrown at him for no reason.

np. i do agree with you that whats done is done and we should make the best of it. you and your partner's decision to allow vidz swapping was a great idea because it allows vidz holders an opportunity to recoup their loss and gives them option to continue supporting whichever ones they want. competition is good for business kind of like ethereum and ethereum classic.

I think it too that a new ICO is the better way.I think the DEV have to distance how much as possible from Purevidz.If he had Funds from the last Project is for me not relevanced.

people just want to throw BTC ao someone who fucked them over....... ::)

guess that's why scammers thrive on bitcointalk.......so many idiots with more money than sense....

Being sure he has enough to develop an entire new blockchain and have his name public while paying legal teams etc etc on a cut of a small 85btc is insanity friend. I invested early on in Vidz and got out when this dev solved the scalable problem where his partner couldn't. I have seen some amazing work on vidz and if that is this guys work,I'm back for round two with support :D Good luck!


Been fucked? No friend I made 5x because of this guys problem solving. If it was left to the other dev I may have lost 50%. So many idiots on this forum, right I just responded to one.

Who fucked who?The Price from Vidz is still over x8 from ico so I dont see any Fucking up.This Dev make a lot of people rich.

I didnt like asphyxia saying that he would refund the investors money if he didn't raise enough during crowd sale. if he truly believed in his idea and vision, whether he raised one dollar or millions, he should never think about giving up!! i understand there are a lot of future uncertainties but if there is a will there is a way. no risk no reward. as winston churchill said never never never give up.

Fortunately this asphyxia dev is not a rat (unlike some others ::)) to do that.
That would have been the utter sign of betrayal and should have put all honest people off, so he would have been left with you and weilichesbin.

Thankfully, this is not the case. Its nice to see this dev has integrity and some reliability, while still being a  flighty kid after all.

seems no one trust , but you can make your choice go or not go.

OP, please delete this thread if you have already started an ANN thread

There doesn't need to be a thread about drama over the two projects in the ANN board. There is one in the alt discussion board.